Wade Garrett Posted 29 June, 2022 Share Posted 29 June, 2022 4 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Broja and Livramento weren't just promise, they were already good enough. Perhaps the club think Lavia, Bazunu and Bella-Kotchap are aswell. I hope you’re right, and there’s nothing wrong with buying good young players. I just think we should be buying more established and experienced players as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 29 June, 2022 Share Posted 29 June, 2022 Just now, Wade Garrett said: I hope you’re right, and there’s nothing wrong with buying good young players. I just think we should be buying more established and experienced players as well. Who would you recommend to the club? We have experience in the side just a lack of leadership - Salisu might step up in that respect now he has a year under his belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted 29 June, 2022 Share Posted 29 June, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said: I hope you’re right, and there’s nothing wrong with buying good young players. I just think we should be buying more established and experienced players as well. Which established and experienced player would you want and do you think Saints could realistically buy ? Edited 29 June, 2022 by Ed Rooney 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 29 June, 2022 Share Posted 29 June, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Toadhall Saint said: We have experience in the side just a lack of leadership How would we really know if a player is a good leader or not? Edited 29 June, 2022 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 29 June, 2022 Share Posted 29 June, 2022 3 minutes ago, Ed Rooney said: Which established and experienced player would you want and do you think Saints could realistically buy ? Realistically, I don’t think we’ll buy anyone over 25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 29 June, 2022 Share Posted 29 June, 2022 13 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: How would we really know if a player is a good leader or not? Watch them - see how they communicate with the players around them? It ain’t all about the stats in that regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 29 June, 2022 Share Posted 29 June, 2022 42 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said: And all the others that have been a rip roaring success. Balance is all wrong if we just continue to buy promise over experience. I have a sneaky suspicion this is how you like your Christmas presents on Xmas day - absolutely no surprises. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 29 June, 2022 Share Posted 29 June, 2022 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said: Realistically, I don’t think we’ll buy anyone over 25. I know where you are coming from, but without massive sales I don't think our budget can stretch to established players coming into or in the prime of their careers. I'm not just on about transfer fee's, but wages on top of it. I'm fully accepting of our approach, even though it has a very high risk-high reward slant to it and I think we should just embrace it. A year ago we couldn't even dream of evolving the side like this, so even this feels incredibly refreshing. I think the club have been incredibly scared from the experience of signing more 'established' players over the last few years (Lemina, Hoedt, Vestergaard, Carillo, Boufal, Elyounoussi etc etc). They take on so much not just on transfer fee's but on wages and it then becomes tricky to do anything, in a financial sense what we are doing has less risk but in a football sense it arguably has a little more risk - but with risk comes reward so they say. It's not like we're signing young trash, these guys are rated across Europe as some of the best. Edited 29 June, 2022 by S-Clarke 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 29 June, 2022 Share Posted 29 June, 2022 28 minutes ago, Toadhall Saint said: Watch them - see how they communicate with the players around them? It ain’t all about the stats in that regard. How can we evaluate the communication you are looking at from a distance and not hearing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 29 June, 2022 Share Posted 29 June, 2022 What happens if they are good leaders but shit players.....Harry Maguire cough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 29 June, 2022 Share Posted 29 June, 2022 6 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: How can we evaluate the communication you are looking at from a distance and not hearing? Communication is just verbal in your world is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 29 June, 2022 Share Posted 29 June, 2022 2 minutes ago, Toadhall Saint said: Communication is just verbal in your world is it? So we need some good pointers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint1 Posted 29 June, 2022 Share Posted 29 June, 2022 1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said: How would we really know if a player is a good leader or not? How does FM work out its leadership stat for each player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 29 June, 2022 Share Posted 29 June, 2022 8 minutes ago, woodsaint1 said: How does FM work out its leadership stat for each player? Here we go...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 29 June, 2022 Share Posted 29 June, 2022 8 minutes ago, woodsaint1 said: How does FM work out its leadership stat for each player? I pluck a number out of the air 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 29 June, 2022 Share Posted 29 June, 2022 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: So we need some good pointers? This and your last gif speak volumes about your view on what communication is. Why am I not surprised? Edited 29 June, 2022 by Toadhall Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 29 June, 2022 Share Posted 29 June, 2022 3 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: Did you say the same about Broja and Livramento? Are either of those going to be in our starting eleven come first game of the season? Would you say Broja had a full consistent season? Do you not thing Livramento needed resting before his injury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 29 June, 2022 Share Posted 29 June, 2022 12 minutes ago, Toadhall Saint said: This and your last gif speak volumes about your view on what communication is. Why am I not surprised? Does the light hearted nature of both posts not suggest I wasn't being serious? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo1976 Posted 29 June, 2022 Share Posted 29 June, 2022 9 hours ago, Saint Garrett said: First team squad definitely, not sure where it leaves Smallbone / Diallo. I'm expecting him to be first choice alongside JWP. out if hes any good hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 29 June, 2022 Share Posted 29 June, 2022 7 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said: Why do people have a fixation on age? If you're good enough, you're old enough surely? Verstappen was 18 when he won his first Grands Prix. Absolutely, but he's only recently stopped being a child. He won't be first choice right away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 June, 2022 Share Posted 29 June, 2022 2 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: How would we really know if a player is a good leader or not? How do you know when you’re rating them on your game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 29 June, 2022 Share Posted 29 June, 2022 So, is the transfer for Romeo Dunn? Sorry, couldn't resist... 😖 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 29 June, 2022 Share Posted 29 June, 2022 Will believe this when announced by the club, but if it happens then its good news as he's clearly got potential in an area we need to strengthen. I wonder if he would play alongside Romeu allowing JWP a more advanced role? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddeer Posted 29 June, 2022 Share Posted 29 June, 2022 26 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said: Will believe this when announced by the club, but if it happens then its good news as he's clearly got potential in an area we need to strengthen. I wonder if he would play alongside Romeu allowing JWP a more advanced role? Only if it says he can in Ralph's play book. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 30 June, 2022 Share Posted 30 June, 2022 Does anyone know what actual type of midfielder he is as I can't find anything about him. Is he a creator, a ball winner, is he just an all rounder who can shift the ball along...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Reece Posted 30 June, 2022 Share Posted 30 June, 2022 1 hour ago, Saint_clark said: Does anyone know what actual type of midfielder he is as I can't find anything about him. Is he a creator, a ball winner, is he just an all rounder who can shift the ball along...? So from what I have read (on Twitter!) he is more of a ‘ball winner’ that then shifts the ball along with a quick pass once he has picked it up. Bare in mind I hadn’t really heard of him before these links, despite a load of kids on social media wetting themselves over the prospect of signing him when I doubt they’d heard of him either. Too much FM / FIFA scouting being done I reckon! 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 30 June, 2022 Share Posted 30 June, 2022 12 hours ago, Convict Colony said: What happens if they are good leaders but shit players.....Harry Maguire cough Sell them for 80million before anyone else realises 🤗 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 30 June, 2022 Share Posted 30 June, 2022 4 hours ago, Saint_clark said: Does anyone know what actual type of midfielder he is as I can't find anything about him. Is he a creator, a ball winner, is he just an all rounder who can shift the ball along...? From what I’ve seen he plays more as a DM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 June, 2022 Share Posted 30 June, 2022 6 hours ago, Saint_clark said: Does anyone know what actual type of midfielder he is as I can't find anything about him. Is he a creator, a ball winner, is he just an all rounder who can shift the ball along...? He's more of a ball winning DM, tough tackling, powerful type. A decent passer but he's got the potential to be a Wanyama type (with better passing). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 30 June, 2022 Share Posted 30 June, 2022 18 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: He's more of a ball winning DM, tough tackling, powerful type. A decent passer but he's got the potential to be a Wanyama type (with better passing). That would be some player.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 30 June, 2022 Author Share Posted 30 June, 2022 Don't think he's likely to be anywhere near as big as Wanyama, he was an absolutely wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 30 June, 2022 Share Posted 30 June, 2022 It would be good to have a DM to bring on when Romeu inevitably gets booked.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 June, 2022 Share Posted 30 June, 2022 47 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said: Don't think he's likely to be anywhere near as big as Wanyama, he was an absolutely wall. No, not in height..But he's got a decent physique which makes him suited to that Wanyama type role. It'll be interesting to see how he develops into his 20's, as physically he will still change quite a bit I'd imagine. The raw attributes to work with are great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Nimbus Posted 30 June, 2022 Share Posted 30 June, 2022 From that short video clip, he seems very comfortable to take the ball on the half turn and pass forward. Something that is really missing from our midfield when Romeu is not on form. Looks a smart signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddeer Posted 30 June, 2022 Share Posted 30 June, 2022 7 hours ago, Saint-Reece said: So from what I have read (on Twitter!) he is more of a ‘ball winner’ that then shifts the ball along with a quick pass once he has picked it up. Bare in mind I hadn’t really heard of him before these links, despite a load of kids on social media wetting themselves over the prospect of signing him when I doubt they’d heard of him either. Too much FM / FIFA scouting being done I reckon! 😂 Just from the clips I've watched he seems well capable of picking and weighting a pass. Think there's more to him than putting himself about and getting his foot in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 30 June, 2022 Share Posted 30 June, 2022 18 hours ago, Wade Garrett said: Realistically, I don’t think we’ll buy anyone over 25. wondering if their legs will go wont be an issue then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 30 June, 2022 Share Posted 30 June, 2022 On 29/06/2022 at 13:28, Convict Colony said: ok am putting my song to use for him in here from transfer thread - the first 3 bit lisa maffa sings- just re-word. Should be relatively easy to adjust these lyrics.. You keep on giving me the hold up, hold up Used to be my Romeu (Whoa-oh, yeah) Used to be my Romeu (Whoa-oh, yeah) Let it all go (Whoa-oh, yeah) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 30 June, 2022 Share Posted 30 June, 2022 Good one, have we reached our Romeo song choices limit now tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 30 June, 2022 Share Posted 30 June, 2022 3 hours ago, Convict Colony said: Good one, have we reached our Romeo song choices limit now tho Waiting for a reworded Dire Straits Romeo and Juliet... 🙂 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 30 June, 2022 Share Posted 30 June, 2022 We’re in pretty dangerous autocorrect territory, what with V and B being right next to each other on the keyboard. I look forward to the live commentary updates on someone, "going in hard on Labia." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 30 June, 2022 Share Posted 30 June, 2022 5 hours ago, suewhistle said: It would be good to have a DM to bring on when Romeu inevitably gets booked.. As much as people have worried about this, hasn't he still NEVER been sent off in his career? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umlaut Posted 30 June, 2022 Share Posted 30 June, 2022 15 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: As much as people have worried about this, hasn't he still NEVER been sent off in his career? Yeah, he's very disciplined. But it still means he can't draw a tactical foul for the remainder of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 30 June, 2022 Share Posted 30 June, 2022 Good question, I was wondering about that as I typed my comment, but as Ü points out, it does then stifle his normal instincts.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 30 June, 2022 Share Posted 30 June, 2022 Spoke to a City supporting friend this afternoon. He regularly watches the youth teams. When I asked about Lavia his response was this... I'm so pissed off we're letting him go. I'd have rather seen him playing than Kalvin Phillips. He's the real deal. He's the player that Fernandinho was 5 years ago. If he comes to your place he has to be in your starting 11. He's got skill and pace. He reads the game unbelievably well for such a young player. His passing and defensive qualities are incredible. I asked what the word was about him coming to Saints and he said that all the papers are saying that it's a done deal, although there now seems to be some interest from a couple of German clubs. He then went on to talk about McAtee and Delap. He said Delap is a bit heavy but he felt he'd do well by coming to us as he'll never get a chance at City. His final words were, if you sign Lavia, Delap and McAtee then I might be tempted to start coming to watch Saints. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 30 June, 2022 Share Posted 30 June, 2022 The way The Athletic reported it was a bit like with Bazunu, all agreed but probably hasnt done the formalities, medical and actually signed. Anyone know if he had Belgium games and therefore quite possibly still on holiday? Hopefully it gets officially done soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 30 June, 2022 Share Posted 30 June, 2022 16 minutes ago, Dusic said: The way The Athletic reported it was a bit like with Bazunu, all agreed but probably hasnt done the formalities, medical and actually signed. Anyone know if he had Belgium games and therefore quite possibly still on holiday? Hopefully it gets officially done soon. Looks to not be with the city team yet, doing some form of training though (in city gear) https://instagram.com/stories/lavizzy6/2872067980694385330?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 30 June, 2022 Share Posted 30 June, 2022 34 minutes ago, Dusic said: The way The Athletic reported it was a bit like with Bazunu, all agreed but probably hasnt done the formalities, medical and actually signed. Anyone know if he had Belgium games and therefore quite possibly still on holiday? Hopefully it gets officially done soon. Check SaintQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 30 June, 2022 Share Posted 30 June, 2022 26 minutes ago, Toadhall Saint said: Check SaintQ You clearly don't know your chess, it's Check Mate, mate 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 30 June, 2022 Share Posted 30 June, 2022 6 minutes ago, Master Bates said: You clearly don't know your chess, it's Check Mate, mate 😉 Ok mate 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted 1 July, 2022 Share Posted 1 July, 2022 9 hours ago, Master Bates said: You clearly don't know your chess, it's Check Mate, mate 😉 And you clearly don’t know your saintsweb. It’s check pal, pal. 😉 You’re talking pony 😂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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