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2 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

Thanks Romeo, all the best 👏🏻

 

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Classy stuff from a class young player - I'm absolutely confident he will make his mark immediately at Chelsea.   His goodbye note above confirms a maturity and a sound head on young shoulders which he has needed during the drawn out transfer saga.     A great outcome for Saints and he is one ex-Saint I will be following in the season ahead.

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Wish him the best of luck, will be interesting watching his career pan out. Such a fantastic young talent.  There probably isn't a better manager out there to develop him than Poch, but will he be given the chances at Chelsea, and given it's a bit of a basket case club with 50 new signings it might take a while for them to find the right formula. I worry for him that he won't get enough minutes with Caceido and Enzo there.

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23 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said:

Wish him the best of luck, will be interesting watching his career pan out. Such a fantastic young talent.  There probably isn't a better manager out there to develop him than Poch, but will he be given the chances at Chelsea, and given it's a bit of a basket case club with 50 new signings it might take a while for them to find the right formula. I worry for him that he won't get enough minutes with Caceido and Enzo there.

If poch stays the he will definitely be given a chance. Whether they stick with him remains to be seen. 

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27 minutes ago, austsaint said:

Classy stuff from a class young player - I'm absolutely confident he will make his mark immediately at Chelsea.   His goodbye note above confirms a maturity and a sound head on young shoulders which he has needed during the drawn out transfer saga.     A great outcome for Saints and he is one ex-Saint I will be following in the season ahead.

Deeply cynical that any of these things are ever written directly by the player. Having said that, I do think he has behaved well during all of this and I wish him well and hope he is as good as we all believe him to be. 

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I get everyone is saying Romeo has been a real professional, and agree to an extent as he has clearly not kicked up a fuss and has been training hard, waiting patiently for an appropriate bid. 

On the other hand, he's not played in any of the three games we've had so far despite being contracted to us and being paid a handsome sum per week. Unless this was something stipulated by Chelsea in early conversations during negotiations, it is frustrating.

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Compliments for keeping his mouth shut during the whole process.  Good luck at that basket case of a club.  Sorted financially for life though so fair play.

RIGHT SAINTS.  WELL OVER £100M IN THE BANK NOW.  ANY DANGER OF SOME SIGNINGS???

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5 minutes ago, sambosa75 said:

Compliments for keeping his mouth shut during the whole process.  Good luck at that basket case of a club.  Sorted financially for life though so fair play.

RIGHT SAINTS.  WELL OVER £100M IN THE BANK NOW.  ANY DANGER OF SOME SIGNINGS???

Club must know they're under immense pressure now. Not getting promoted would be a huge, huge failure by somebody, either the board not getting the players in or (if we do) Martin for not getting us promoted AND the board for hiring Martin.

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40 minutes ago, sfc4prem said:

 

On the other hand, he's not played in any of the three games we've had so far despite being contracted to us and being paid a handsome sum per week. Unless this was something stipulated by Chelsea in early conversations during negotiations, it is frustrating.

What difference would it have made? Not much. We beat Wednesday playing some of the best passing football the Championship has ever seen and  he wouldn't have played against Gillingham anyway. Only against Norwich may he have added steel to the midfield by which time this transfer was well underway. 

This is an amazing deal for us and the reason SR went down the "buy youth for profit" route, but even though it has happened successfully with Tino and now Romeo, I still think it was a risky route to take with our Premier League place on the line.

Good luck to Lavia though. He really will be a top player in a few years time.

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53 minutes ago, sambosa75 said:

Compliments for keeping his mouth shut during the whole process.  Good luck at that basket case of a club.  Sorted financially for life though so fair play.

RIGHT SAINTS.  WELL OVER £100M IN THE BANK NOW.  ANY DANGER OF SOME SIGNINGS???

Got to be the biggest income in one window by a championship club ever by some distance surely? When Sully, ABK go and now looks like Adams and KWP will also depart itll be getting on for £200m. Even spending 1/4 of that should be able to build a brilliant team at this level

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2 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Got to be the biggest income in one window by a championship club ever by some distance surely? When Sully, ABK go and now looks like Adams and KWP will also depart itll be getting on for £200m. Even spending 1/4 of that should be able to build a brilliant team at this level

9/10 window so far, yes?

Net-spend trophy well and truly in the bag....again

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2 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

9/10 window so far, yes?

Net-spend trophy well and truly in the bag....again

By a record margin. We’ve only spent money on a kid from City. As expected all our better players have gone or are going and we’re left with the shit. Those that though clubs would be banging the door down for the likes of Lyanco and Tall Paul were mental 

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So in cash or instalments we will get £53m less what we have outstanding to pay to city ( presumably somewhere around £5/7 m) less  £8/9 of the profit to city.  I realise that ignores add ons, so net around £40m ? 
 

There is an estimated £70m hole in the budget for this season and still a big hole next season( although player sales and salary reductions might decrease this substantially for next season). So the sales to date should comfortably cover this years deficit with maybe £30m left , less money laid out on Charles ? 

A spending spree looks pretty unlikely, esp given that we will surely be subsidising wages or taking a loss on some outgoing players .

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Just now, teamsaint said:

So in cash or instalments we will get £53m less what we have outstanding to pay to city ( presumably somewhere around £5/7 m) less  £8/9 of the profit to city.  I realise that ignores add ons, so net around £40m ? 
 

There is an estimated £70m hole in the budget for this season and still a big hole next season( although player sales and salary reductions might decrease this substantially for next season). So the sales to date should comfortably cover this years deficit with maybe £30m left , less money laid out on Charles ? 

A spending spree looks pretty unlikely, esp given that we will surely be subsidising wages or taking a loss on some outgoing players .

But we are the financial powerhouse of the league, apprently

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2 hours ago, teamsaint said:

So in cash or instalments we will get £53m less what we have outstanding to pay to city ( presumably somewhere around £5/7 m) less  £8/9 of the profit to city.  I realise that ignores add ons, so net around £40m ? 
 

There is an estimated £70m hole in the budget for this season and still a big hole next season( although player sales and salary reductions might decrease this substantially for next season). So the sales to date should comfortably cover this years deficit with maybe £30m left , less money laid out on Charles ? 

A spending spree looks pretty unlikely, esp given that we will surely be subsidising wages or taking a loss on some outgoing players .

Doesn't the parachute payments cover 50% of TV rights expected. Thats about 60m using this image :

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5 hours ago, sfc4prem said:

I get everyone is saying Romeo has been a real professional, and agree to an extent as he has clearly not kicked up a fuss and has been training hard, waiting patiently for an appropriate bid. 

On the other hand, he's not played in any of the three games we've had so far despite being contracted to us and being paid a handsome sum per week. Unless this was something stipulated by Chelsea in early conversations during negotiations, it is frustrating.

Or we didn't want to risk an injury given the vast sums involved? 

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2 hours ago, teamsaint said:

So in cash or instalments we will get £53m less what we have outstanding to pay to city ( presumably somewhere around £5/7 m) less  £8/9 of the profit to city.  I realise that ignores add ons, so net around £40m ? 
 

There is an estimated £70m hole in the budget for this season and still a big hole next season( although player sales and salary reductions might decrease this substantially for next season). So the sales to date should comfortably cover this years deficit with maybe £30m left , less money laid out on Charles ? 

A spending spree looks pretty unlikely, esp given that we will surely be subsidising wages or taking a loss on some outgoing players .

A few people have made this point, but I’m not convinced we need to concern ourselves speculating on this summer’s balance sheet.

The CEO talked at the Forum about the complexity of deals/instalments etc. Cashflow is obviously something he and Wilcox need to keep on top of. However, I’m sure it works both ways. If money from player sales arrives in instalments, then I’m sure payments that we make for new players will be paid out in instalments too. Same principle for sell-on fees etc. I expect we benefit sometimes too from players we sold getting re-sold later to bigger clubs.

I’m not underplaying the importance to any business of keeping on top of cashflow. Many companies collapse by messing this up. However, the people running the club seem competent and I trust that they will ensure cashflow balances out over time. We can confidently presume that money from this summer’s sales will be rolling in for many summers to come.

Given that none of us are ever going to be privy to the complexities of instalments, wage structures etc, I think it’s a pretty reasonable rule-of-thumb to presume instalments etc should all balance out over time.

Back to the post above, therefore, we wouldn’t need £20 million in the bank this summer before we can buy a £20 million player. We just need to ensure that we can afford the first instalment.

To be very simplistic, let’s assume you’re correct that there’s a £70 million deficit this season and let’s predict that we’ll receive £120 million in sales (media reported figures). In that case, I think it’s pretty reasonable for us to assume that would leave us around £50 million ‘in the bank’ for potential purchases.

I’m fully aware that idle speculation is the primary function of this forum and I have no inside knowledge at all. I just think it’s pointless trying to delve too deeply into instalments/sell-on clauses/cashflow etc (unless things didn’t seem to add up and we were worried about crazy gambles, risking administration etc).

For what it’s worth, I suspect the gap between headline sales and headline purchases will be considerably higher than £70 million this summer (loss of Premier League income, recovering money gambled last January, still paying wages for sacked managers, unwanted players etc). Should still leave us with a reasonable balance leftover for 3 or 4 decent purchases.

 

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8 hours ago, Suhari said:

Cheers Romeo.

Enjoyed watching this guy in a Saints shirt and will follow his career with interest. He could become exceptional. Glad that he's working with Poch....should be great for his development.

funny.. the only thing i will remember about his time here is that that he on the squad during the relegated season.

if someone ten years now, say.. "hey, its the Romeo chap.", I will be like.. "yeah, he was on the team the year we went down."

 

apologies if that is cynical of me.

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11 hours ago, Saint NL said:

According to this, Man City will get at least £8m from the deal.

You can see why Chelsea and City hoover up all the young talent, it seems to pay off.

 

 

 

 

Nearly half of that has come from us same last year too

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11 hours ago, Saint NL said:

According to this, Man City will get at least £8m from the deal.

You can see why Chelsea and City hoover up all the young talent, it seems to pay off.

 

 

 

 

Very clever long term way to get round FFP. Hoover up 50 young players at less than a million each and sell them on within the next 5 years for 10 times that amount or more, plus make more money back from sell on fees and extra clauses. Once you've got into that cycle a few years in you've got a steady revenue stream each summer coming in. 

That amount won't even include loan fees received for the hordes going out on loan.

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12 minutes ago, Noodles34 said:

Any truth in the rumour that Chelsea are considering loaning him back to us for the season?

Would be bizarre really, so not buying it myself but ‘dis is football you know’. ’. 

I think it was a throwaway comment by a former player/pundit saying he might not get much game time, Poch might consider loaning him back. Probably tongue in cheek, but it's appeared on one of the obscure websites, and grown legs from there.

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I think this stems from comments made by Glenn Johnson. All he said was that Lavia is still a teenager and, if he doesn't settle quickly and offer something in any games he gets Chelsea could explore the option of loaning him out. Not much to this on the face of it.

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david in sweden

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15 hours ago, saint lard said:

Injured in Chelsea training today. 
muscle tear at the ankle. 

Not the first teenage injury we have seen...  which goes to prove the point that " looking great " in U21 football, (or was he U18?)

is no guarantee when stepping up to meet the demands of the training regime required to be a Premier League player.  

Maybe Poch had pushed him a bit too hard?

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