Nolan Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 2 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said: Is that their final bid? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 If you'd told me in May that the best part of this transfer window would be selling our best player to Liverpool/Chelsea I'd have told you to p*ss off, but f*ck me this is funny. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 I'd take it and run! Good job Wilcox. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 How much would Man City get from the sale of Lavia? We've sold both of our starting CMs. If Charles is to be a starting CM, we still need another, even if Smallbone has come in as a starting CM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 2 minutes ago, Nolan said: Is that their final bid? Im assuming.. unless Chelsea gazump it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 1 minute ago, sfc4prem said: How much would Man City get from the sale of Lavia? We've sold both of our starting CMs. If Charles is to be a starting CM, we still need another, even if Smallbone has come in as a starting CM. City get 20% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 5 minutes ago, CSA96 said: https://x.com/jacobsteinberg/status/1691010818349928448?s=46&t=f0hgNyKSvvOD5qjGLJhsXQ This just gets better and better. So if this is true Liverpool have had to pay an extra £10 million to Southampton all because they were titting around and trying to play the big boys by only offering up to £45 million ! 🤣 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 2 minutes ago, sfc4prem said: How much would Man City get from the sale of Lavia? We've sold both of our starting CMs. If Charles is to be a starting CM, we still need another, even if Smallbone has come in as a starting CM. 20% of the profit isn’t it? So about £9-10m. Leaves us with £50m good deal. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said: City get 20% Of the profit. £9.8m by my maths. We would get the £50m we always wanted. Edited 14 August, 2023 by Chez 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 4 minutes ago, sfc4prem said: How much would Man City get from the sale of Lavia? We've sold both of our starting CMs. If Charles is to be a starting CM, we still need another, even if Smallbone has come in as a starting CM. If you count AMN we've lost all four of our CMs from last season. Annoyingly our ability to replace them is being hampered by our 400 crap attacking players we're struggling to shift from the wage bill. I'd say we need two more on top of Charles and Smallbone, although one will likely be an emergency/utility/stop gap signing in much the same way as AMN. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 (edited) https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/aug/14/liverpool-romeo-lavia-chelsea Chelsea to match it? Edited 14 August, 2023 by Chez 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 (edited) Liverpool were originally saying they'd bid and get him for about £25m, first £37m, second, £41m, third £45m we wanted £50m they wouldn't bid that now it's supposed to be £60m. Snatch their hand off before they realise £60m will buy a host of good players. Come on Chelsea you know you can do it. Just a few more quid. Liverpool surely you're not going to let them get away with that. Edited 14 August, 2023 by derry 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Neil Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 I wonder what the Chelsea contract offer was like compared to the initial Liverpool one, surely Lavia can say I want you to match it now. Maybe the better chance of first team football and europe at Liverpool will sway it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 2 minutes ago, St. Neil said: I wonder what the Chelsea contract offer was like compared to the initial Liverpool one, surely Lavia can say I want you to match it now. Maybe the better chance of first team football and europe at Liverpool will sway it. But then again living in London and rebuilding with Poch might sway the lad, it beats Toxteth and cuddles from Stephen Merchant's gurning Bavarian uncle. Good fun isn't it 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Bates Statue Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 22 minutes ago, derry said: Liverpool were originally saying they'd bid and get him for about £25m, first £37m, second, £41m, third £45m we wanted £50m they wouldn't bid that now it's supposed to be £60m. Snatch their hand off before they realise £60m will by a host of good players. Come on Chelsea you know you can do it. Just a few more quid. Liverpool surely you're not going to let them get away with that. It's been going on for a month and they've been bidding in 1M increments every day to get to this point... it's gone on long enough, might as well drag it out for a few more days and see if they can match the VVD transfer fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 What’s crazy is we NEARLY get £50m the bank if he goes for £60m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripey McStripe Shirt Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 Lets just round it up to £100m, share him and be done with it. Liverpool can have him Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays. Chelsea can have him Tuesdays, Thursdays and Sundays. We keep him for Saturdays to keep it fair for Liverpool and Chelsea. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Challenger Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 1 hour ago, Miltonaggro said: But then again living in London and rebuilding with Poch might sway the lad, it beats Toxteth and cuddles from Stephen Merchant's gurning Bavarian uncle. Good fun isn't it I wish they would all hurry up. The rubber panties I put on last week to stop me pissing myself are beginning to chaff. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 Just now, Challenger said: I wish they would all hurry up. The rubber panties I put on last week to stop me pissing myself are beginning to chaff. Hold it in until at least £70m... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 2 hours ago, SaintsFan86 said: It’s hilarious seeing all The Liverpool fans whinging about it not being fair 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 4 minutes ago, Turkish said: It’s hilarious seeing all The Liverpool fans whinging about it not being fair It really is making my Monday tbh, Couldn't make it up really. Forever the victim. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 5 minutes ago, Turkish said: It’s hilarious seeing all The Liverpool fans whinging about it not being fair Particularly their complaints about chelsea tapping up --- something they never do! Ask van dijk, lallana, etc. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 hahaha this gif sums up liverpool over the last few weeks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 I keep expecting Man City to come in and gazump both Chelsea and Liverpool, we could accept a lower sum from them. It does beg the question why did they put a 40m buy-back clause in when they sold him to us that can be invalidated if we sell him before the buy-back comes into effect (next Summer). There is something a bit odd about the buy-back agreement which I don't understand, unless of course City just don't want him any longer. Anyway, this now needs to be sorted pronto, so that we can get replacements in because we currently look very weak in CM without all of last season's players in that area, which was already a weak area in terms of strength in depth if not starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 OK Gentlemen ....I have 55 million..55...now it's 60 million.. do I hear 65 ? Come along Chelsea.. you've spent over 100 million already, this lad will be a steal at only 65 ..or did I hear 70? ...hahahahaha Never mind Russell and the team .....give Jason Wilcox the freedom of the City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdmickey3 Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 3 minutes ago, david in sweden said: OK Gentlemen ....I have 55 million..55...now it's 60 million.. do I hear 65 ? Come along Chelsea.. you've spent over 100 million already, this lad will be a steal at only 65 ..or did I hear 70? ...hahahahaha Never mind Russell and the team .....give Jason Wilcox the freedom of the City. Yep credit where it is due to JW and the team but now the focus is on getting the incomings right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 2 hours ago, SaintsFan86 said: Chelsea talking about FFP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 12 minutes ago, VectisSaint said: I keep expecting Man City to come in and gazump both Chelsea and Liverpool, we could accept a lower sum from them. It does beg the question why did they put a 40m buy-back clause in when they sold him to us that can be invalidated if we sell him before the buy-back comes into effect (next Summer). There is something a bit odd about the buy-back agreement which I don't understand, unless of course City just don't want him any longer. Perhaps our relegation has moved the goalposts. I would think City expected him to play for Saints in the Prem for a couple of seasons as a finishing school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 In the immortal words of some Welsh ferret, "Romeo done"? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 12 minutes ago, VectisSaint said: It does beg the question why did they put a 40m buy-back clause in when they sold him to us that can be invalidated if we sell him before the buy-back comes into effect (next Summer). There is something a bit odd about the buy-back agreement which I don't understand, unless of course City just don't want him any longer. Man City put buy back clauses in loads of their transfers, but how many of those players do they ever end up buying back? Off the top of my head, I can only think of Angelino, who they bought back from PSV only to send out on loan six months later and sell again the following summer. They won't be buying back Lavia (or Bazunu or Charles or Edozie or Larios; and the Gunn option ended when he left us). They let players leave that they don't want anymore. If they rated Lavia that highly, they wouldn't have blocked his pathway into the team by signing Kalvin Phillips to sit on the bench. The buy back clause is just a bit of a safety net for City on the off chance that they let a player go and he suddenly turns into a world beater. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 25 minutes ago, VectisSaint said: I keep expecting Man City to come in and gazump both Chelsea and Liverpool, we could accept a lower sum from them. It does beg the question why did they put a 40m buy-back clause in when they sold him to us that can be invalidated if we sell him before the buy-back comes into effect (next Summer). There is something a bit odd about the buy-back agreement which I don't understand, unless of course City just don't want him any longer. Anyway, this now needs to be sorted pronto, so that we can get replacements in because we currently look very weak in CM without all of last season's players in that area, which was already a weak area in terms of strength in depth if not starters. Buying clubs basically ensure there is a delay to the buy back coming in force to ensure if the player is a success then we can retain them for a couple of seasons, otherwise its just a glorified loan, to an extent I imagine that City would probably have pushed harder if they’d managed to shift Phillips but realistically they don’t have a spot for Lavia right now Coincidentally.. nor do Chelsea, but here we are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 11 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: In the immortal words of some Welsh ferret, "Romeo done"? *shudders* I’d almost forgotten just how utterly cringeworthy that video was. Players who just looked confused and disinterested at the weird little man barking out nonsense instructions at them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 (edited) Personally I think City think he is not ready to play as a holding midfielder in their team. Liverpool are short, Chelsea are all over the place but they are buying great potential and especially Liverpool gambling that despite their reservations he'll cut the mustard. Is he a big loss for us? I don't think he is, a loss but not a big one. He obviously doesn't want to play in the Championship and as Martin said he didn't consider him because his head was in the wrong place. If he stayed under sufferance we were not going to get the best out of him. In my view the £60m fee will really underwrite our aspirations and allow us to shift the dross we need to shift and be more circumspect about fees etc. I think the £60m giving us north of maybe £170m if we can unload sicknote Bella Kotchap. If the likes of Adams, KWP decide to go we are close to £200m especially if Genk buy the swap for Onuachu with Joseph Paintsil their versatile forward. We are in a marvellous position to really strengthen the team/squad. Edited 14 August, 2023 by derry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Saint Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 31 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: In the immortal words of some Welsh ferret, "Romeo done"? Only got 21 seconds to complete the deal? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 19 minutes ago, derry said: Personally I think City think he is not ready to play as a holding midfielder in their team. Liverpool are short, Chelsea are all over the place but they are buying great potential and especially Liverpool gambling that despite their reservations he'll cut the mustard. Is he a big loss for us? I don't think he is, a loss but not a big one. He obviously doesn't want to play in the Championship and as Martin said he didn't consider him because his head was in the wrong place. If he stayed under sufferance we were not going to get the best out of him. In my view the £60m fee will really underwrite our aspirations and allow us to shift the dross we need to shift and be more circumspect about fees etc. I think the £60m giving us north of maybe £170m if we can unload sicknote Bella Kotchap. If the likes of Adams, KWP decide to go we are close to £200m especially if Genk buy the swap for Onuachu with Joseph Paintsil their versatile forward. We are in a marvellous position to really strengthen the team/squad. £170M in sales is crazy isn't it, and hardly anyone seems to be mentioning Kamaldeen Sulemana , he's our club record signing isn't he? Seems to go under the radar when discussing moves out or potential line ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 1 hour ago, Turkish said: It’s hilarious seeing all The Liverpool fans whinging about it not being fair Fuck them and all who sail in them! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 13 minutes ago, JRM said: £170M in sales is crazy isn't it, and hardly anyone seems to be mentioning Kamaldeen Sulemana , he's our club record signing isn't he? Seems to go under the radar when discussing moves out or potential line ups. I didn't mention Sulemana because I hope he stays. Everton were sniffing about a loan. It could still happen as we are talking to them about a loan for Mason Holgate. however it looks like they've signed Harrison from Leeds on loan and are in for Gnonto who is kicking off and refusing to play. It seems that nearly all the Leeds players had relegation release clauses and whilst they have transferred/loaned out about 15 players and received comparatively little in fees that has really hit them hard. I think we should keep Sulemana he will be lethal in the Championship. It may well be that as he is away from the club having treatment according to Russell Martin it's going to be a good while before he is match fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 1 hour ago, Weston Super Saint said: In the immortal words of some Welsh ferret, "Romeo done"? Ahead of his time yet again, a visionary. Since he got sacked he's probably cracked time travel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 Lolz 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 51 minutes ago, derry said: I didn't mention Sulemana because I hope he stays. Everton were sniffing about a loan. It could still happen as we are talking to them about a loan for Mason Holgate. however it looks like they've signed Harrison from Leeds on loan and are in for Gnonto who is kicking off and refusing to play. It seems that nearly all the Leeds players had relegation release clauses and whilst they have transferred/loaned out about 15 players and received comparatively little in fees that has really hit them hard. I think we should keep Sulemana he will be lethal in the Championship. It may well be that as he is away from the club having treatment according to Russell Martin it's going to be a good while before he is match fit. Mason Holgate is apparently on £70k a year at Everton so I doubt we would be willing to pay him that here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecurnew02 Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 Romano saying it will be a fixed fee of £50M which is great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 Robbed by a bunch of Southern softies. You tight Northern monkeys. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 Personally think Lavia is making the right call. Poch is a brilliant coach and will certainly improve him. Lavia, Caicedo and Enzo is an incredible midfield trio. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 15 minutes ago, Saint_Ash said: Lolz All that pissing about playing the big man has screwed Liverpool big time. Can’t wait to see the meltdown from Their fans. Could have been done weeks ago if they’d stumped up the money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 (edited) https://twitter.com/tacticallymatt/status/1691122913733410816?s=46 Edited 14 August, 2023 by Turkish 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 1 minute ago, Turkish said: All that pissing about playing the big man has screwed Liverpool big time. Can’t wait to see the meltdown from Their fans. Could have been done weeks ago if they’d stumped up the money It’s bloody hilarious how they’ve screwed this up on top of Caicedo turning them down after old Klippity more or less announced his arrival in his press conference last week 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 I think Liverpool have been played on this in the best way we could have ever imagined. Feels like karma after how they pissed around with the VVD deal. Going by the weekend, they certainly need a 6, otherwise they are in the shitter this year in terms of any top 4 hopes. But from our clubs point of view I feel we've played this brilliantly, to get between 50-60m for him and pocket most of the cash up front is great business. This is exactly what our model is all about, buying young players or promoting young academy players, giving them an opportunity and then allowing them to make the step up - with us making a tidy profit in the process. The key here is that we reinvest the JWP and Lavia fee's correctly, we cannot blow it - if we do, we'll be stuck in the Champ and that's it for us for many years. This is such a crucial few weeks. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 36 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: I think Liverpool have been played on this in the best way we could have ever imagined. Feels like karma after how they pissed around with the VVD deal. Going by the weekend, they certainly need a 6, otherwise they are in the shitter this year in terms of any top 4 hopes. But from our clubs point of view I feel we've played this brilliantly, to get between 50-60m for him and pocket most of the cash up front is great business. This is exactly what our model is all about, buying young players or promoting young academy players, giving them an opportunity and then allowing them to make the step up - with us making a tidy profit in the process. The key here is that we reinvest the JWP and Lavia fee's correctly, we cannot blow it - if we do, we'll be stuck in the Champ and that's it for us for many years. This is such a crucial few weeks. How did Luton get promoted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block41 Saint Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 41 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: I think Liverpool have been played on this in the best way we could have ever imagined. Feels like karma after how they pissed around with the VVD deal. Going by the weekend, they certainly need a 6, otherwise they are in the shitter this year in terms of any top 4 hopes. But from our clubs point of view I feel we've played this brilliantly, to get between 50-60m for him and pocket most of the cash up front is great business. This is exactly what our model is all about, buying young players or promoting young academy players, giving them an opportunity and then allowing them to make the step up - with us making a tidy profit in the process. The key here is that we reinvest the JWP and Lavia fee's correctly, we cannot blow it - if we do, we'll be stuck in the Champ and that's it for us for many years. This is such a crucial few weeks. If we reinvest this money and fail to go up then it means the ownership have had another shocker in the transfer market and RM will probably pay the price for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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