Wade Garrett Posted 29 June, 2022 Posted 29 June, 2022 On 29/06/2022 at 17:32, Matthew Le God said: Broja and Livramento weren't just promise, they were already good enough. Perhaps the club think Lavia, Bazunu and Bella-Kotchap are aswell. Expand I hope you’re right, and there’s nothing wrong with buying good young players. I just think we should be buying more established and experienced players as well.
Toadhall Saint Posted 29 June, 2022 Posted 29 June, 2022 On 29/06/2022 at 17:38, Wade Garrett said: I hope you’re right, and there’s nothing wrong with buying good young players. I just think we should be buying more established and experienced players as well. Expand Who would you recommend to the club? We have experience in the side just a lack of leadership - Salisu might step up in that respect now he has a year under his belt.
Ed Rooney Posted 29 June, 2022 Posted 29 June, 2022 (edited) On 29/06/2022 at 17:38, Wade Garrett said: I hope you’re right, and there’s nothing wrong with buying good young players. I just think we should be buying more established and experienced players as well. Expand Which established and experienced player would you want and do you think Saints could realistically buy ? Edited 29 June, 2022 by Ed Rooney 1
Matthew Le God Posted 29 June, 2022 Posted 29 June, 2022 (edited) On 29/06/2022 at 17:40, Toadhall Saint said: We have experience in the side just a lack of leadership Expand How would we really know if a player is a good leader or not? Edited 29 June, 2022 by Matthew Le God
Wade Garrett Posted 29 June, 2022 Posted 29 June, 2022 On 29/06/2022 at 17:42, Ed Rooney said: Which established and experienced player would you want and do you think Saints could realistically buy ? Expand Realistically, I don’t think we’ll buy anyone over 25.
Toadhall Saint Posted 29 June, 2022 Posted 29 June, 2022 On 29/06/2022 at 17:43, Matthew Le God said: How would we really know if a player is a good leader or not? Expand Watch them - see how they communicate with the players around them? It ain’t all about the stats in that regard.
Weston Super Saint Posted 29 June, 2022 Posted 29 June, 2022 On 29/06/2022 at 17:29, Wade Garrett said: And all the others that have been a rip roaring success. Balance is all wrong if we just continue to buy promise over experience. Expand I have a sneaky suspicion this is how you like your Christmas presents on Xmas day - absolutely no surprises. 6
S-Clarke Posted 29 June, 2022 Posted 29 June, 2022 (edited) On 29/06/2022 at 17:46, Wade Garrett said: Realistically, I don’t think we’ll buy anyone over 25. Expand I know where you are coming from, but without massive sales I don't think our budget can stretch to established players coming into or in the prime of their careers. I'm not just on about transfer fee's, but wages on top of it. I'm fully accepting of our approach, even though it has a very high risk-high reward slant to it and I think we should just embrace it. A year ago we couldn't even dream of evolving the side like this, so even this feels incredibly refreshing. I think the club have been incredibly scared from the experience of signing more 'established' players over the last few years (Lemina, Hoedt, Vestergaard, Carillo, Boufal, Elyounoussi etc etc). They take on so much not just on transfer fee's but on wages and it then becomes tricky to do anything, in a financial sense what we are doing has less risk but in a football sense it arguably has a little more risk - but with risk comes reward so they say. It's not like we're signing young trash, these guys are rated across Europe as some of the best. Edited 29 June, 2022 by S-Clarke 5
Matthew Le God Posted 29 June, 2022 Posted 29 June, 2022 On 29/06/2022 at 17:58, Toadhall Saint said: Watch them - see how they communicate with the players around them? It ain’t all about the stats in that regard. Expand How can we evaluate the communication you are looking at from a distance and not hearing?
Convict Colony Posted 29 June, 2022 Posted 29 June, 2022 What happens if they are good leaders but shit players.....Harry Maguire cough
Toadhall Saint Posted 29 June, 2022 Posted 29 June, 2022 On 29/06/2022 at 18:28, Matthew Le God said: How can we evaluate the communication you are looking at from a distance and not hearing? Expand Communication is just verbal in your world is it?
Matthew Le God Posted 29 June, 2022 Posted 29 June, 2022 On 29/06/2022 at 18:34, Toadhall Saint said: Communication is just verbal in your world is it? Expand So we need some good pointers?
woodsaint1 Posted 29 June, 2022 Posted 29 June, 2022 On 29/06/2022 at 17:43, Matthew Le God said: How would we really know if a player is a good leader or not? Expand How does FM work out its leadership stat for each player?
AlexLaw76 Posted 29 June, 2022 Posted 29 June, 2022 On 29/06/2022 at 18:46, woodsaint1 said: How does FM work out its leadership stat for each player? Expand Here we go......
Matthew Le God Posted 29 June, 2022 Posted 29 June, 2022 On 29/06/2022 at 18:46, woodsaint1 said: How does FM work out its leadership stat for each player? Expand I pluck a number out of the air 😉
Toadhall Saint Posted 29 June, 2022 Posted 29 June, 2022 (edited) On 29/06/2022 at 18:38, Matthew Le God said: So we need some good pointers? Expand This and your last gif speak volumes about your view on what communication is. Why am I not surprised? Edited 29 June, 2022 by Toadhall Saint
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 29 June, 2022 Posted 29 June, 2022 On 29/06/2022 at 15:54, Matthew Le God said: Did you say the same about Broja and Livramento? Expand Are either of those going to be in our starting eleven come first game of the season? Would you say Broja had a full consistent season? Do you not thing Livramento needed resting before his injury?
Matthew Le God Posted 29 June, 2022 Posted 29 June, 2022 On 29/06/2022 at 19:24, Toadhall Saint said: This and your last gif speak volumes about your view on what communication is. Why am I not surprised? Expand Does the light hearted nature of both posts not suggest I wasn't being serious? 3
Roo1976 Posted 29 June, 2022 Posted 29 June, 2022 On 29/06/2022 at 11:12, Saint Garrett said: First team squad definitely, not sure where it leaves Smallbone / Diallo. I'm expecting him to be first choice alongside JWP. Expand out if hes any good hopefully.
Saint_clark Posted 29 June, 2022 Posted 29 June, 2022 On 29/06/2022 at 13:06, Weston Super Saint said: Why do people have a fixation on age? If you're good enough, you're old enough surely? Verstappen was 18 when he won his first Grands Prix. Expand Absolutely, but he's only recently stopped being a child. He won't be first choice right away.
Turkish Posted 29 June, 2022 Posted 29 June, 2022 On 29/06/2022 at 17:43, Matthew Le God said: How would we really know if a player is a good leader or not? Expand How do you know when you’re rating them on your game?
SNSUN Posted 29 June, 2022 Posted 29 June, 2022 So, is the transfer for Romeo Dunn? Sorry, couldn't resist... 😖 2
Saint Fan CaM Posted 29 June, 2022 Posted 29 June, 2022 Will believe this when announced by the club, but if it happens then its good news as he's clearly got potential in an area we need to strengthen. I wonder if he would play alongside Romeu allowing JWP a more advanced role?
Teddeer Posted 29 June, 2022 Posted 29 June, 2022 On 29/06/2022 at 22:08, Saint Fan CaM said: Will believe this when announced by the club, but if it happens then its good news as he's clearly got potential in an area we need to strengthen. I wonder if he would play alongside Romeu allowing JWP a more advanced role? Expand Only if it says he can in Ralph's play book. 1
Saint_clark Posted 30 June, 2022 Posted 30 June, 2022 Does anyone know what actual type of midfielder he is as I can't find anything about him. Is he a creator, a ball winner, is he just an all rounder who can shift the ball along...?
Saint-Reece Posted 30 June, 2022 Posted 30 June, 2022 On 30/06/2022 at 03:23, Saint_clark said: Does anyone know what actual type of midfielder he is as I can't find anything about him. Is he a creator, a ball winner, is he just an all rounder who can shift the ball along...? Expand So from what I have read (on Twitter!) he is more of a ‘ball winner’ that then shifts the ball along with a quick pass once he has picked it up. Bare in mind I hadn’t really heard of him before these links, despite a load of kids on social media wetting themselves over the prospect of signing him when I doubt they’d heard of him either. Too much FM / FIFA scouting being done I reckon! 😂
Saint86 Posted 30 June, 2022 Posted 30 June, 2022 On 29/06/2022 at 18:34, Convict Colony said: What happens if they are good leaders but shit players.....Harry Maguire cough Expand Sell them for 80million before anyone else realises 🤗 2
Toadhall Saint Posted 30 June, 2022 Posted 30 June, 2022 On 30/06/2022 at 03:23, Saint_clark said: Does anyone know what actual type of midfielder he is as I can't find anything about him. Is he a creator, a ball winner, is he just an all rounder who can shift the ball along...? Expand From what I’ve seen he plays more as a DM.
S-Clarke Posted 30 June, 2022 Posted 30 June, 2022 On 30/06/2022 at 03:23, Saint_clark said: Does anyone know what actual type of midfielder he is as I can't find anything about him. Is he a creator, a ball winner, is he just an all rounder who can shift the ball along...? Expand He's more of a ball winning DM, tough tackling, powerful type. A decent passer but he's got the potential to be a Wanyama type (with better passing).
Badger Posted 30 June, 2022 Posted 30 June, 2022 On 30/06/2022 at 10:05, S-Clarke said: He's more of a ball winning DM, tough tackling, powerful type. A decent passer but he's got the potential to be a Wanyama type (with better passing). Expand That would be some player....
Saint Garrett Posted 30 June, 2022 Author Posted 30 June, 2022 Don't think he's likely to be anywhere near as big as Wanyama, he was an absolutely wall.
suewhistle Posted 30 June, 2022 Posted 30 June, 2022 It would be good to have a DM to bring on when Romeu inevitably gets booked.. 1
S-Clarke Posted 30 June, 2022 Posted 30 June, 2022 On 30/06/2022 at 10:41, Saint Garrett said: Don't think he's likely to be anywhere near as big as Wanyama, he was an absolutely wall. Expand No, not in height..But he's got a decent physique which makes him suited to that Wanyama type role. It'll be interesting to see how he develops into his 20's, as physically he will still change quite a bit I'd imagine. The raw attributes to work with are great.
Mr Nimbus Posted 30 June, 2022 Posted 30 June, 2022 From that short video clip, he seems very comfortable to take the ball on the half turn and pass forward. Something that is really missing from our midfield when Romeu is not on form. Looks a smart signing.
Teddeer Posted 30 June, 2022 Posted 30 June, 2022 On 30/06/2022 at 05:11, Saint-Reece said: So from what I have read (on Twitter!) he is more of a ‘ball winner’ that then shifts the ball along with a quick pass once he has picked it up. Bare in mind I hadn’t really heard of him before these links, despite a load of kids on social media wetting themselves over the prospect of signing him when I doubt they’d heard of him either. Too much FM / FIFA scouting being done I reckon! 😂 Expand Just from the clips I've watched he seems well capable of picking and weighting a pass. Think there's more to him than putting himself about and getting his foot in.
Chez Posted 30 June, 2022 Posted 30 June, 2022 On 29/06/2022 at 17:46, Wade Garrett said: Realistically, I don’t think we’ll buy anyone over 25. Expand wondering if their legs will go wont be an issue then.
Chez Posted 30 June, 2022 Posted 30 June, 2022 On 29/06/2022 at 12:28, Convict Colony said: ok am putting my song to use for him in here from transfer thread - the first 3 bit lisa maffa sings- just re-word. Expand Should be relatively easy to adjust these lyrics.. You keep on giving me the hold up, hold up Used to be my Romeu (Whoa-oh, yeah) Used to be my Romeu (Whoa-oh, yeah) Let it all go (Whoa-oh, yeah) 1
Convict Colony Posted 30 June, 2022 Posted 30 June, 2022 Good one, have we reached our Romeo song choices limit now tho
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 30 June, 2022 Posted 30 June, 2022 On 30/06/2022 at 12:39, Convict Colony said: Good one, have we reached our Romeo song choices limit now tho Expand Waiting for a reworded Dire Straits Romeo and Juliet... 🙂 1 1
Lighthouse Posted 30 June, 2022 Posted 30 June, 2022 We’re in pretty dangerous autocorrect territory, what with V and B being right next to each other on the keyboard. I look forward to the live commentary updates on someone, "going in hard on Labia."
Saint_clark Posted 30 June, 2022 Posted 30 June, 2022 On 30/06/2022 at 11:13, suewhistle said: It would be good to have a DM to bring on when Romeu inevitably gets booked.. Expand As much as people have worried about this, hasn't he still NEVER been sent off in his career? 1
Umlaut Posted 30 June, 2022 Posted 30 June, 2022 On 30/06/2022 at 16:27, Saint_clark said: As much as people have worried about this, hasn't he still NEVER been sent off in his career? Expand Yeah, he's very disciplined. But it still means he can't draw a tactical foul for the remainder of the game.
suewhistle Posted 30 June, 2022 Posted 30 June, 2022 Good question, I was wondering about that as I typed my comment, but as Ü points out, it does then stifle his normal instincts..
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 30 June, 2022 Posted 30 June, 2022 Spoke to a City supporting friend this afternoon. He regularly watches the youth teams. When I asked about Lavia his response was this... I'm so pissed off we're letting him go. I'd have rather seen him playing than Kalvin Phillips. He's the real deal. He's the player that Fernandinho was 5 years ago. If he comes to your place he has to be in your starting 11. He's got skill and pace. He reads the game unbelievably well for such a young player. His passing and defensive qualities are incredible. I asked what the word was about him coming to Saints and he said that all the papers are saying that it's a done deal, although there now seems to be some interest from a couple of German clubs. He then went on to talk about McAtee and Delap. He said Delap is a bit heavy but he felt he'd do well by coming to us as he'll never get a chance at City. His final words were, if you sign Lavia, Delap and McAtee then I might be tempted to start coming to watch Saints. 7
Dusic Posted 30 June, 2022 Posted 30 June, 2022 The way The Athletic reported it was a bit like with Bazunu, all agreed but probably hasnt done the formalities, medical and actually signed. Anyone know if he had Belgium games and therefore quite possibly still on holiday? Hopefully it gets officially done soon.
EBS1980 Posted 30 June, 2022 Posted 30 June, 2022 On 30/06/2022 at 19:56, Dusic said: The way The Athletic reported it was a bit like with Bazunu, all agreed but probably hasnt done the formalities, medical and actually signed. Anyone know if he had Belgium games and therefore quite possibly still on holiday? Hopefully it gets officially done soon. Expand Looks to not be with the city team yet, doing some form of training though (in city gear) https://instagram.com/stories/lavizzy6/2872067980694385330?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Toadhall Saint Posted 30 June, 2022 Posted 30 June, 2022 On 30/06/2022 at 19:56, Dusic said: The way The Athletic reported it was a bit like with Bazunu, all agreed but probably hasnt done the formalities, medical and actually signed. Anyone know if he had Belgium games and therefore quite possibly still on holiday? Hopefully it gets officially done soon. Expand Check SaintQ
Master Bates Posted 30 June, 2022 Posted 30 June, 2022 On 30/06/2022 at 20:32, Toadhall Saint said: Check SaintQ Expand You clearly don't know your chess, it's Check Mate, mate 😉
Toadhall Saint Posted 30 June, 2022 Posted 30 June, 2022 On 30/06/2022 at 20:59, Master Bates said: You clearly don't know your chess, it's Check Mate, mate 😉 Expand Ok mate 😉
Chewy Posted 1 July, 2022 Posted 1 July, 2022 On 30/06/2022 at 20:59, Master Bates said: You clearly don't know your chess, it's Check Mate, mate 😉 Expand And you clearly don’t know your saintsweb. It’s check pal, pal. 😉 You’re talking pony 😂 2
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