How do we finish this window?

[ally_uk]

Keep it realistic boys name some players who would you like us to sign? 

What would make it a good window? 

I like to get a idea of calibre of players we should be aiming for and how you guys feel we should strengthen. Gives us something to talk about! 

So players incoming who would you get? 

[S-Clarke]

We need a CM, someone in the Romeu mould as we have no alternative. Ideally someone better than Romeu to come in and take his place.

Not sure Svanberg is that player, but the guy at Lens certainly is. (Dacoure I think he's called). Sambi-Lakomba at Arsenal isn't a bad shout either, potential loan so saving some pennies there. Lavia is another shout down the cheap loan route.

2x new 10's (well, wide players in the old fashioned terms). We need direct players who can break the line, confident enough to beat a man and not pass backwards. Someone like Sinisterra at Feyenoord.

2x Strikers. Assume long is gone and Broja has already gone, so that's two spots to fill. Potentially the second 'number 10' could also play as a striker so Amadu could be that guy. For our starting striker signing - someone like Sesko from Salzburg, Delap from City or the fella from Stuttgart. All powerful front men, although Sesko has a higher ceeling imo. For 'cheapness' purposes a loan for Delap is probably the route we'll go once the U19's Euros are over.

On paper there is still a hell of a lot to do. Luckily we've made a decent start.

Edited 26 June, 2022 by S-Clarke

[Charlie Wayman]

Neymar is available

[ally_uk]

S-Clarke  I agree with what you have said. I'm thinking the same 

[ErwinK1961]

2 hours ago, S-Clarke said:

We need a CM, someone in the Romeu mould as we have no alternative. Ideally someone better than Romeu to come in and take his place.

Not sure Svanberg is that player, but the guy at Lens certainly is. (Dacoure I think he's called). Sambi-Lakomba at Arsenal isn't a bad shout either, potential loan so saving some pennies there. Lavia is another shout down the cheap loan route.

2x new 10's (well, wide players in the old fashioned terms). We need direct players who can break the line, confident enough to beat a man and not pass backwards. Someone like Sinisterra at Feyenoord.

2x Strikers. Assume long is gone and Broja has already gone, so that's two spots to fill. Potentially the second 'number 10' could also play as a striker so Amadu could be that guy. For our starting striker signing - someone like Sesko from Salzburg, Delap from City or the fella from Stuttgart. All powerful front men, although Sesko has a higher ceeling imo. For 'cheapness' purposes a loan for Delap is probably the route we'll go once the U19's Euros are over.

On paper there is still a hell of a lot to do. Luckily we've made a decent start.

Yep spot on for me.

If there’s any truth to the weird rumours of Lyanco going on loan, plus Bednarek possibly leaving, maybe we’re looking at another CB too.

[S-Clarke]

6 minutes ago, ErwinK1961 said:

Yep spot on for me.

If there’s any truth to the weird rumours of Lyanco going on loan, plus Bednarek possibly leaving, maybe we’re looking at another CB too.

Yeah, the Lyanco ones are weird. If that happens we should try and get Levi Colwill in as 3rd CB.

[SuperSAINT]

2 hours ago, S-Clarke said:

We need a CM, someone in the Romeu mould as we have no alternative. Ideally someone better than Romeu to come in and take his place.

Not sure Svanberg is that player, but the guy at Lens certainly is. (Dacoure I think he's called). Sambi-Lakomba at Arsenal isn't a bad shout either, potential loan so saving some pennies there. Lavia is another shout down the cheap loan route.

2x new 10's (well, wide players in the old fashioned terms). We need direct players who can break the line, confident enough to beat a man and not pass backwards. Someone like Sinisterra at Feyenoord.

2x Strikers. Assume long is gone and Broja has already gone, so that's two spots to fill. Potentially the second 'number 10' could also play as a striker so Amadu could be that guy. For our starting striker signing - someone like Sesko from Salzburg, Delap from City or the fella from Stuttgart. All powerful front men, although Sesko has a higher ceeling imo. For 'cheapness' purposes a loan for Delap is probably the route we'll go once the U19's Euros are over.

On paper there is still a hell of a lot to do. Luckily we've made a decent start.

Top post.

The DM position def needs reviewing.  The Sangare debacle haunts me.

Worth adding Garner @ Man Utd (as per The Athletic) to the list.

Probably out of our league, but Amadou Onana @ Lille ticks all the #Saintsy boxes.

[Convict Colony]

Install a frame, some glass and maybe a blind

[Thereisonlyonemickychannon]

Get a new manager first

[Lampwick]

Didn't think we'd really started yet...

[hypochondriac]

I really don't think we'll be getting in two cm or wide men. Realistically I'll go with one romeu competition, one winger, one number 10 behind the striker and a striker (two maybe if we get rid of Armstrong.) So maybe 3 or 4 more players. 

[Saint Fan CaM]

Can’t see us getting more than one new player in and past form tells me that will be in midfield…a new number 10 type who will be able to adapt to Ralph’s style (or at least hopefully will). This will leave us woefully short in the DM position should Romeu be out and woefully short of goals again because of our Championship level striker options.
 

Despite wanting to believe in the changes made so far, I’m really not feeling optimistic about the season - feels like the previous time we ended up relegated…signs of hope ending in an 11th hour fight for survival with injuries to older players and a bunch of inexperienced youngsters to rely on. Still a bit of a shambles really compared to the season of Pelle, Mane and co.

[whiteleySaint30]

We will probably finish it by selling JWP. Thise who say it's been a good start - I would suggest we have no idea at present bearing in mind we have signed a 19 & 20 year old (forget Lis), they may be great, they may not be upto ut. Time will tell. 

[The Cat]

24 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Can’t see us getting more than one new player in and past form tells me that will be in midfield…a new number 10 type who will be able to adapt to Ralph’s style (or at least hopefully will). This will leave us woefully short in the DM position should Romeu be out and woefully short of goals again because of our Championship level striker options.
 

Despite wanting to believe in the changes made so far, I’m really not feeling optimistic about the season - feels like the previous time we ended up relegated…signs of hope ending in an 11th hour fight for survival with injuries to older players and a bunch of inexperienced youngsters to rely on. Still a bit of a shambles really compared to the season of Pelle, Mane and co.

Can't quite see why you think we'll only get 1 more player in. Nothing about our window so far suggests that. 

Also, past form in transfer windows counts for nothing because we have new owners who have already spent over £20m without selling anyone. 

I don't expect us to be lobbing loads of cash around, however it's obvious they are willing to address the gaps in the squad and only bringing in one more player won't do that.

[Baird of the land]

As long as we get A DM, a 10 and a striker and sort some sort of temporary fullback cover anything else is a bonus.

[S-Clarke]

1 hour ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Can’t see us getting more than one new player in and past form tells me that will be in midfield…a new number 10 type who will be able to adapt to Ralph’s style (or at least hopefully will). This will leave us woefully short in the DM position should Romeu be out and woefully short of goals again because of our Championship level striker options.
 

Despite wanting to believe in the changes made so far, I’m really not feeling optimistic about the season - feels like the previous time we ended up relegated…signs of hope ending in an 11th hour fight for survival with injuries to older players and a bunch of inexperienced youngsters to rely on. Still a bit of a shambles really compared to the season of Pelle, Mane and co.

If you're expecting a transfer window akin to 2014 then you need to re-address your expectations, as they're completely unrealistic. 

[igsey]

I think a lot will depend on our outgoings and there's nobody really heavily linked with moves away other than Bednarek at the moment. I'd guess we won't see much movement until July, I think that's when clubs' new accounting periods start.

[Ldnsaint]

CM, 2 tens, striker and a backup lb if the club don't feel Small is ready to be backup

Walcott, Long, Djenepo, Valery, Tella out hopefully 

[Toadhall Saint]

15 hours ago, S-Clarke said:

We need a CM, someone in the Romeu mould as we have no alternative. Ideally someone better than Romeu to come in and take his place.

Not sure Svanberg is that player, but the guy at Lens certainly is. (Dacoure I think he's called). Sambi-Lakomba at Arsenal isn't a bad shout either, potential loan so saving some pennies there. Lavia is another shout down the cheap loan route.

2x new 10's (well, wide players in the old fashioned terms). We need direct players who can break the line, confident enough to beat a man and not pass backwards. Someone like Sinisterra at Feyenoord.

2x Strikers. Assume long is gone and Broja has already gone, so that's two spots to fill. Potentially the second 'number 10' could also play as a striker so Amadu could be that guy. For our starting striker signing - someone like Sesko from Salzburg, Delap from City or the fella from Stuttgart. All powerful front men, although Sesko has a higher ceeling imo. For 'cheapness' purposes a loan for Delap is probably the route we'll go once the U19's Euros are over.

On paper there is still a hell of a lot to do. Luckily we've made a decent start.

More or less this. 

[Piran]

3 hours ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Can’t see us getting more than one new player in and past form tells me that will be in midfield…a new number 10 type who will be able to adapt to Ralph’s style (or at least hopefully will). This will leave us woefully short in the DM position should Romeu be out and woefully short of goals again because of our Championship level striker options.
 

Despite wanting to believe in the changes made so far, I’m really not feeling optimistic about the season - feels like the previous time we ended up relegated…signs of hope ending in an 11th hour fight for survival with injuries to older players and a bunch of inexperienced youngsters to rely on. Still a bit of a shambles really compared to the season of Pelle, Mane and co.

Have you ever...?

[Bad Wolf]

Ideally: Get rid of Beg, Stephens, Redmond, Walcott, Djenepo. Bring in 1 new CB (two if Lyanco happens to leave as well as the other two), give that 16 year old striker, Simeu and Short a good amount of game time, bring in one ball winning midfielder to take the pressure off Romeu, a "shadow striker" as they're called on FM along with at least one goal scorer. Also, a versatile full back who can cover either side.

I'm not expecting all of that to happen but that's what I'd really like.

[Bad Wolf]

2 hours ago, Ldnsaint said:

CM, 2 tens, striker and a backup lb if the club don't feel Small is ready to be backup

Walcott, Long, Djenepo, Valery, Tella out hopefully 

Signed a new contract a couple of months ago. There's more to come from him.

[revolution saint]

I would say the two ‘ten’ positions and up front should be our major priority. Stuart Armstrong does a good job when fit but no one else is able to consistently. That ten position is crucial and also really demanding on the player. They need to be good at closing down, bags of stamina, go past players, good eye for a pass, work well in close spaces and also be able to finish. We don’t necessarily need speed merchants because we compress the play so much but it would still be nice to have. To be honest I think it’s the biggest weakness of the 4 2 2 2 formation because it’s so hard to find players that fulfill the criteria and for most of them it’s a role that’s unfamiliar.

[Lee On Solent Saint]

7 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said:

Ideally: Get rid of Beg, Stephens, Redmond, Walcott, Djenepo. Bring in 1 new CB (two if Lyanco happens to leave as well as the other two), give that 16 year old striker, Simeu and Short a good amount of game time, bring in one ball winning midfielder to take the pressure off Romeu, a "shadow striker" as they're called on FM along with at least one goal scorer. Also, a versatile full back who can cover either side.

I'm not expecting all of that to happen but that's what I'd really like.

So you don't rate Bednarek but would rather give more game time to a guy who has just spent half the season playing for Carlisle in league two? 

[Bad Wolf]

1 minute ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

So you don't rate Bednarek but would rather give more game time to a guy who has just spent half the season playing for Carlisle in league two? 

Game time as in pre season friendlies. 

[Rebel]

Disappointed for the most part 

I think we'll end up signing a few more young  players we can develop and then sell on at a profit  - maybe a central midfielder, a centre forward and attacking midfielder - but that's probably about it - apart from one or two loans to add some depth.

We'll start pre-season playing 4-2-2-2  and then realise too late after 3 or 4 league games and a bad start we don't have the players for it.  

What we really need to do is change the way we play or bring in a load of players that suit the 4-2-2-2.

The current squad is better suited to playing 4-3-3 but even then we don't really have any strength in depth.

I think it if wasn't for Ralph having 2 years left on his £7M a year contract the new owners would have replaced him by now.

 

 

 

 

[stknowle]

10 hours ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Can’t see us getting more than one new player in and past form tells me that will be in midfield…a new number 10 type who will be able to adapt to Ralph’s style (or at least hopefully will). This will leave us woefully short in the DM position should Romeu be out and woefully short of goals again because of our Championship level striker options.
 

Despite wanting to believe in the changes made so far, I’m really not feeling optimistic about the season - feels like the previous time we ended up relegated…signs of hope ending in an 11th hour fight for survival with injuries to older players and a bunch of inexperienced youngsters to rely on. Still a bit of a shambles really compared to the season of Pelle, Mane and co.

Sincerely hope this isn't correct, if it is we're going down.

[Convict Colony]

This year the world cup is our leveller with the big clubs, they will lose most of their squad who will play and not get much rest. 

Ours either been too young or too shit to go can rest and really attack the Dec/Jan fixtures.

Fortunately our budget precludes us buying world cup ready players so I reckon buy all these Austrians who based on my 1min of internet research look mustard.

So I'd like us to buy 2 players to play on the left and right attacking positions as starters, 1 CM to develop who goes forward and 1 striker who has scored more than 10 goals a season for a few seasons not from the championship.

[nta786]

Probably by waiting for the clock to strike 11pm on 1st September? 

[Saint Fan CaM]

18 hours ago, Piran said:

Have you ever...?

Quite clearly yes, as I indicated the last time I felt confident going into a new season was when we had a team that consisted of Pelle, Mane, Schneiderlin, Wanyama etc., although in some respects it could argued that team underperformed in relation to its potential. More the point, would you feel confident about the upcoming season if we didn’t sign a decent striker?

[Ldnsaint]

20 hours ago, Bad Wolf said:

Signed a new contract a couple of months ago. There's more to come from him.

you'd hope so considering how little he's offered so far 

[once_bitterne]

Weaker than we started?

That seems to be the usual summary of our Summer transfer windows.

[Piran]

5 hours ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Quite clearly yes, as I indicated the last time I felt confident going into a new season was when we had a team that consisted of Pelle, Mane, Schneiderlin, Wanyama etc., although in some respects it could argued that team underperformed in relation to its potential. More the point, would you feel confident about the upcoming season if we didn’t sign a decent striker?

I am confident about the new season, but then I am naturally an optimist. I don't know if we'll sign 'a decent striker', but I do like the way that the club have gone about the opening moves in the transfer market. I expect more moves. I also do not share the general dislike of the Hassenhutl reign. I agree with those who suggest he has done a pretty good job with the tools at his disposal, and I have watched some cracking performances from his teams, despite the lousy end to last season.

[Dark Munster]

12 hours ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Quite clearly yes, as I indicated the last time I felt confident going into a new season was when we had a team that consisted of Pelle, Mane, Schneiderlin, Wanyama etc., although in some respects it could argued that team underperformed in relation to its potential. More the point, would you feel confident about the upcoming season if we didn’t sign a decent striker?