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Turkish

Turkish

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  On 15/09/2022 at 17:16, Dellman said:

Well, Lambert, Lovren, Van Dyke, Lallana, Mane and Clyne all went there within two years. Sounds like a very hot connection to me. I really hope it's gone cold

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I wonder if Derby will come in for him given the saints Derby connection after all Shilton and Mark Wright both went there the same season in 1987

Badger

Badger

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  On 15/09/2022 at 12:05, northdevonsaint said:

Just been called up to the German national team for Nations league games vs England and Hungary

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  On 15/09/2022 at 12:26, Saint Garrett said:

Great stuff! Hopefully he'll be off to the world cup too.

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Personally, I'd rather he stayed under the radar for a little longer, and had a four week break this winter to resume the season with us when it re-starts.

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Badger

Badger

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  On 15/09/2022 at 19:28, Turkish said:

Is he our first current German international player? Can’t remember any others 

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Probably.

The only other s German international I can think of is Uwe Rosler, who played for East Germany, though not whilst with us.

Turkish

Turkish

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  On 15/09/2022 at 19:40, Badger said:

Probably.

The only other s German international I can think of is Uwe Rosler, who played for East Germany, though not whilst with us.

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Yeah he played a few times years before he joined us, can’t remember any other German players let alone internationals 

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qwertyell

qwertyell

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Doesn't look like he's in the provisional German world cup squad which has leaked.

If they were holding off on operating on his shoulder because he was eying up the WC, they should probably get it booked now - it's a pretty long recovery period, IIRC.

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skintsaint

skintsaint

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  On 24/10/2022 at 22:32, qwertyell said:

If they were holding off on operating on his shoulder because he was eying up the WC, they should probably get it booked now - it's a pretty long recovery period, IIRC.

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Yep - 3 games till the WC now? We can cover him till then. He was always an outside chance of making the squad anyway.

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S-Clarke

S-Clarke

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  On 01/09/2023 at 21:13, Turkish said:

Looks like we’re going to be stuck with tall Paul and Djenepo 

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The Onuachu one is really interesting, he hasn't had a look in and isn't really being integrated - clearly doesn't fit any sort of style we're trying. Paid a decent wedge, but may not even make the bench in the Championship. 

Turkish

Turkish

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  On 01/09/2023 at 21:14, S-Clarke said:

The Onuachu one is really interesting, he hasn't had a look in and isn't really being integrated - clearly doesn't fit any sort of style we're trying. Paid a decent wedge, but may not even make the bench in the Championship. 

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I didn’t think it would be possible to make a worse signing than Carillo but somehow we did

BotleySaint

BotleySaint

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  On 01/09/2023 at 21:22, Turkish said:

I didn’t think it would be possible to make a worse signing than Carillo but somehow we did

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I honestly don't think he's as bad as Carillo. I may have only been the Belgian league but he knows how to put the ball in the net. If he stays we surely have to try and extract more value out of him and give him a chance.

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Turkish

Turkish

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  On 01/09/2023 at 21:35, BotleySaint said:

I honestly don't think he's as bad as Carillo. I may have only been the Belgian league but he knows how to put the ball in the net. If he stays we surely have to try and extract more value out of him and give him a chance.

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I hope you’re right. At least TP did have a goal scoring record when he joined, Carillo was so obviously a shit signing it was hilarious watching divs on here trying to make out he’s scored one in two throughout his career 🤣

maybe we can get a tune out of him as late sub or something but he seems to be the exact opposite of what Martin wants in a player 

Dr. Kucho

Dr. Kucho

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One of my clients has a skybox at the Phillips stadium and a current PSV player is also a client of mine. Will be keeping a close eye on ABK this season and hope to get some ITK info at times. 

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Suhari

Suhari

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He was solid tonight.

Showed a little pace, made a strong headed clearance and a very good block.

Always available to receive and played some decent passes.

Hope we keep him and give him a chance. Better than Woods and Edwards.

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Saint_clark

Saint_clark

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Can we change the title please that was confusing as fuck considering he just got done playing for us.

EDIT: Thanks Lighthouse. 

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Holmes_and_Watson

Holmes_and_Watson

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  On 28/08/2024 at 21:11, GDog07 said:

ABK-THB-Bednarek

That would be a solid back 3.

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So...

Switch KWP back to right back, so Stephens can play left back?

Just get a sale for KWP and play Stephens at Left back?

Or add Stephens into that back 3 for a novel 6-3-1 formation?

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GDog07

GDog07

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  On 28/08/2024 at 21:21, Holmes_and_Watson said:

So...

Switch KWP back to right back, so Stephens can play left back?

Just get a sale for KWP and play Stephens at Left back?

Or add Stephens into that back 3 for a novel 6-3-1 formation?

🙂

 

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Look, we know it wouldn’t happen because Stephens somehow is guaranteed a starting spot.

SHOULD be;

KWP-ABK-Beds-THB-Suga 

WILL be as it has been last two games.

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egg

egg

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  On 28/08/2024 at 21:34, GDog07 said:

Look, we know it wouldn’t happen because Stephens somehow is guaranteed a starting spot.

SHOULD be;

KWP-ABK-Beds-THB-Suga 

WILL be as it has been last two games.

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Shouldn't be a back 5/3.

On the Forest showing, Stephens isn't getting dropped. THB might though. 

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Lighthouse

Lighthouse

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  On 28/08/2024 at 21:44, hypochondriac said:

Just heard about Martin comments. Sounds like he's still going in this window. Big shame for me. 

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TBH I don’t think that was ever really up for contention, he was just getting a run out. Possibly as a bit of a public show of fitness after the Hoffenheim situation.

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trousers

trousers

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  On 28/08/2024 at 22:00, Lighthouse said:

TBH I don’t think that was ever really up for contention, he was just getting a run out. Possibly as a bit of a public show of fitness after the Hoffenheim situation.

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Yep, that was my first thought too when he came on. May even have been a bit of a two fingered gesture towards Hoffenheim about it too, given how badly they appeared to deal with the situation... "look, he's fit to play you muppets"...

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CanadaSaint

CanadaSaint

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  On 28/08/2024 at 21:44, hypochondriac said:

Just heard about Martin comments. Sounds like he's still going in this window. Big shame for me. 

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I’m not sure he’s ever played for Martin, so he’s going on what he’s been told. ABK’s talent has never been in doubt but he’s earned his bad reputation. Much of it was earned in a shitshow season when we had lots of dressing room issues. But Martin has also earned his reputation as a good man manager so I wonder who has convinced him not to even try to rehabilitate ABK.

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Mr X

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  On 28/08/2024 at 22:14, CanadaSaint said:

I’m not sure he’s ever played for Martin, so he’s going on what he’s been told. ABK’s talent has never been in doubt but he’s earned his bad reputation. Much of it was earned in a shitshow season when we had lots of dressing room issues. But Martin has also earned his reputation as a good man manager so I wonder who has convinced him not to even try to rehabilitate ABK.

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Can you ever convince a player to stay that doesn't want to be here and thinks he's too good for us? 

Suhari

Suhari

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  On 29/08/2024 at 19:07, Mr X said:

Can you ever convince a player to stay that doesn't want to be here and thinks he's too good for us? 

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Is this actually true though?

I'd be amazed if he thinks he's too good for us, given the incredibly small number of games he's played anywhere in the past 2 years.

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hypochondriac

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  On 28/08/2024 at 22:14, CanadaSaint said:

I’m not sure he’s ever played for Martin, so he’s going on what he’s been told. ABK’s talent has never been in doubt but he’s earned his bad reputation. Much of it was earned in a shitshow season when we had lots of dressing room issues. But Martin has also earned his reputation as a good man manager so I wonder who has convinced him not to even try to rehabilitate ABK.

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Worth remembering he was bigging him up last year saying he was huge or something like that. Something must have happened. 

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CanadaSaint

CanadaSaint

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Recognizing that inflated egos are welded into most modern players, I still think we’ve had more than our fair share of really good players with bad attitudes. It’s very frustrating and it makes me wonder if there’s something on the inside at the root of it. Hate selling players like that but sometimes there’s little choice.

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Tommy Mulgrew

Tommy Mulgrew

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I see that Wolfsburg has just sold Lacroix, a CB, to Crystal Palace.  How did ABK get on with Ralph? And did Ralph rate him well enough to be interested in bringing ABK back to Germany?

Just putting 2 and 2 together to make 5. 

Saint_clark

Saint_clark

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  On 29/08/2024 at 19:17, Suhari said:

Is this actually true though?

I'd be amazed if he thinks he's too good for us, given the incredibly small number of games he's played anywhere in the past 2 years.

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Yeah this story about his attitude seems to have come from nowhere with no real evidence. 

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SNSUN

SNSUN

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  On 29/08/2024 at 22:15, davefizzy14 said:

Yep, really want ABK to stay.

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If Russ perseveres with a 5 man back line, then Suga, THB, Bednarek, ABK, KWP would be a superb back line for a newly promoted team. Add Ramsdale to that too. I guess it depends on whether anyone comes in for him. Same with TP, although with ABK coming on yesterday, it shows that perhaps he isn't as frozen out as TP is.

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