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I don't pay any attention to his views or opinions. For me it's what he did on the pitch that counts. He gave me some of the most memorable moments I have ever experienced watching my team. I would suspect that is true for anyone of my generation too. The guy was an absolute genius with a football. That's all I am bothered about

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I think he’s realised there’s an awful lot of money to be made by holding these, shall we say, alternative views. His means of making money in any mainstream media outlet is over and I don’t think it’s a coincidence that his views are becoming more and more bizarre as it appeals to his new paying audience. 

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5 minutes ago, LGTL said:

I think he’s realised there’s an awful lot of money to be made by holding these, shall we say, alternative views. His means of making money in any mainstream media outlet is over and I don’t think it’s a coincidence that his views are becoming more and more bizarre as it appeals to his new paying audience. 

The Covid stuff was one thing, when he started turning his attentions to the war in the Ukraine was when he fell off the cliff for me. 

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He gets asked about "Defund the Police' movement and clearly doesn't know what its about and does the typical loony-right thing of conflating it with BLM. Its very sad as i think a previous post stated, he knows he has to go completely tin hat to earn off it. 

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2 hours ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

I don't pay any attention to his views or opinions. For me it's what he did on the pitch that counts. He gave me some of the most memorable moments I have ever experienced watching my team. I would suspect that is true for anyone of my generation too. The guy was an absolute genius with a football. That's all I am bothered about

Yep. And it's the same reason I have zero interest in any recording artists political opinions. 

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4 hours ago, SuperSAINT said:

Waiting for @SaintsLoyal to finish watching… 🧨 

Already told himRomsey that he was a complete joke and embarrassment to the club.

I read he dismissed his ambassador role as 'nothng special' on another loony podcast.  Sad

 

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2 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

Yep. And it's the same reason I have zero interest in any recording artists political opinions. 

Bit odd, what qualifies someone to have a valid political opinion? Recording artists (usually known as musicians or composers) often have very valid political opinions/views. Probably  more so than journalists or lawyers or the like. Some footballers have very well thought through political views, others are just twats. You should not tar people with a brush based on their background.

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2 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

Yep. And it's the same reason I have zero interest in any recording artists political opinions. 

 

10 minutes ago, VectisSaint said:

Bit odd, what qualifies someone to have a valid political opinion? Recording artists (usually known as musicians or composers) often have very valid political opinions/views. 

Hypo didn't say that he thought they had invalid opinions, he just said that he doesn't have an interest in their opinions, be they valid or invalid. Which is fair enough. 

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I don't trust Mattew Le Tissier to give me all the information to keep myself safe in 2022. He's an ex footballer who grew up on Guernsey.

I also do not trust The World Health Organisation. A body designed to control hazardous viruses. 

Not sure why MLT gets the brunt of all the flak, he's a ex footballer who has an opinion. 

Anyone on here who has something to say about him should write a few sentences about the WHO. Go on, I dare you. 

 

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1 minute ago, LiberalCommunist said:

I don't trust Mattew Le Tissier to give me all the information to keep myself safe in 2022. He's an ex footballer who grew up on Guernsey.

I also do not trust The World Health Organisation. A body designed to control hazardous viruses. 

Not sure why MLT gets the brunt of all the flak, he's a ex footballer who has an opinion. 

Anyone on here who has something to say about him should write a few sentences about the WHO. Go on, I dare you. 

 

Pete Townsend has got a big nose

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1 minute ago, LiberalCommunist said:

Anyone on here who has something to say about him should write a few sentences about the WHO. Go on, I dare you. 

 

Not sure the new doctor will be any good although brilliant in that Sex drama. Jon Pertwee was always my favourite and loved Chris Ecclestone since then not for me and stopped watching.

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1 hour ago, VectisSaint said:

Bit odd, what qualifies someone to have a valid political opinion? Recording artists (usually known as musicians or composers) often have very valid political opinions/views. Probably  more so than journalists or lawyers or the like. Some footballers have very well thought through political views, others are just twats. You should not tar people with a brush based on their background.

I'm sure that many do, I just have no interest in hearing about them. 

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Here's a good game. Click on a random point on that video and post the first sentence Tiss says. The winner is the one who randomly lands on the most crackpot piece of nonsense.

I clicked on 28:35 and got: "If you want to hear from me, you'll here a lot more on GETTR than you will on Twitter."

It's mild by his standards, I'm sure that'll be easily beaten.

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I think that anybody who does not understand what he is saying on free thinking is not really capable of it themselves. I disagree with some of what he says, I agree with other parts but I think that hysterically closing down the debate he raises is far more dangerous than not listening to it. he has demonstrated to me over the three decades he has been in the public eye that he has very good values. He also provided me with some of the best moments I have enjoyed as a Saints supporter.

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30 minutes ago, Give it to Ron said:

Not sure the new doctor will be any good although brilliant in that Sex drama. Jon Pertwee was always my favourite and loved Chris Ecclestone since then not for me and stopped watching.

off topic 
You have missed so much, just started watching Dr.Who since the new beginning with Mr Ecclestone. Really enjoying it. 

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18 minutes ago, Sergei Gotsmanov said:

I think that hysterically closing down the debate he raises is far more dangerous than not listening to it.

I am absolutely certain there is nothing remotely "dangerous" about not listening to Matthew Le Tissier's opinion on anything.

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10 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

I am absolutely certain there is nothing remotely "dangerous" about not listening to Matthew Le Tissier's opinion on anything.

To develop an opinion I would suggest a rich diet of views. When somebody else decides what viewpoints you can be exposed to that is dangerous. 

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5 minutes ago, Sergei Gotsmanov said:

To develop an opinion I would suggest a rich diet of views. When somebody else decides what viewpoints you can be exposed to that is dangerous. 

He's an ex footballer mate. No one is stopping him saying whatever shit he is coming out with. He has a bigger forum and access to people than the vast majority of the population.

Not listening to him is not dangerous, its fine. His opinion is irrelevant.

 

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2 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

 

He's an ex footballer mate. No one is stopping him saying whatever shit he is coming out with. He has a bigger forum and access to people than the vast majority of the population.

Not listening to him is not dangerous, its fine. His opinion is irrelevant.

 

What is dangerous is the 'mob' shutting him down because he presents a different angle to a new story. Ronald Reagan was an ex Actor was his opinion irrelevant. Who should we be 'listening to'?

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21 minutes ago, Sergei Gotsmanov said:

What is dangerous is the 'mob' shutting him down because he presents a different angle to a new story. Ronald Reagan was an ex Actor was his opinion irrelevant. Who should we be 'listening to'?

What mob is that then?

You seem to be part of a mob telling people that it is dangerous to not listen to what Matthew Le Tissier's opinion is. Why the fuck should anyone listen to him? People don't have to. Guess what, it's a free country. 

 

Ronald Reagan was Governor of California who later became President. Previous to that, which i have just learnt now, is he lead a Union (the actors Guild). So a fairly standard pathway for politicians in the US.

You think Le Tissier is going to stand for elected office? Good luck with that.

 

 

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18 minutes ago, Sergei Gotsmanov said:

 Who should we be 'listening to'?

People who are actually qualified to talk about these subjects, rather than thick as mince ex-footballers.

MLT is just another of so many people who believe themselves to be fierce free thinkers fighting the good fight against the dark forces that control the world, but who are actually just gullible idiots who believe everything they read on crackpot conspiracy websites because it fits their narrative and because they lack the intelligence to engage in proper critical thinking.

The vast majority of what he comes out with these days is just unfounded, paranoid nonsense cooked up in the minds of delusional people who spend their entire lives online. So although he may occasionally make the odd decent, valid point, they all get lost in the noise of the baseless bullshit. So the danger is that when someone like MLT, who has a public image and a semblance of credibility, uses his platform to disseminate large amounts of false information, a lot of people will take it at face value without bothering to fact / sense check it. And when large numbers of stupid people start believing a load of shit that isn't true, bad things like Donald fucking Trump winning the US presidency can become reality.

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Saw a you tube interview about his “leaving” Sky Sports. He’d been warned there about some of his tweets. 
He did make one point that was 100% right when he questioned them over still employing someone who spat at a young girl in a car, namely Carragher.

Unfortunately he’s started to come across as a bit arrogant, sort of a “I know better than you” attitude.

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1 hour ago, LiberalCommunist said:

The bigger the forum and access, the less right to say it. Is that how it works?

Right, better leave it all to the trustworthy folk then. 

 

He is perfectly entitled to say whatever he wants to, he exercises his right quite often… unfortunately freedom of speech doesn’t mean freedom of consequence and as such he has been booted out of Sky and Saints and by the looks of it has now realised he needs to move his ‘forum’ to an even smaller echo chambers

He has made some valid points, namely the government’s overall handling of COVID and by that I mean the scandals of not actually following their own advice, and of course his thoughts on the major media outlets having agendas

But even those points, aswell as everything else outside it is engorged with baseless conspiracist bile that is spoken with a heavy degree of arrogance

I love Matt Le Tiss the footballer, always will, but this is a guy who broke during lockdown and was unable to accept the reality for what it was

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6 hours ago, Sergei Gotsmanov said:

What is dangerous is the 'mob' shutting him down because he presents a different angle to a new story. Ronald Reagan was an ex Actor was his opinion irrelevant. Who should we be 'listening to'?

Where's this so-called shut down? He's speaking on various free to watch Youtube videos which are capable of thousands upon thousands of views. Let me guess, he's been cancelled too, right? 😂

Right wingers these days. Whenever they come up against some opposing viewpoints all they can do is cry shutdown and cancel culture. Get a grip.

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Haven’t watched the video as can guess what the plank has to say. Amusing the still shot though above. Photographer: Give me pensive Matt, ok mmmm pretend you are deep in thought, maybe place your finger on your chin. Great.

 

 

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Listening to Radio 2 on Saturday morning there is a guess the celebrity voice game on the Dermot O’Leary show. The successful listener to get through guessed Matty, Dermot building the tension of the game asked “is it the footballer and my nutty good friend Matt LeTissier” it wasn’t but O’Learys comment sound a bit strange.

if his views are being listened to enough to put pennies in his pocket as an internet “influencer” then fair play to him.  

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9 hours ago, CB Fry said:

What mob is that then?

You seem to be part of a mob telling people that it is dangerous to not listen to what Matthew Le Tissier's opinion is. Why the fuck should anyone listen to him? People don't have to. Guess what, it's a free country. 

 

Ronald Reagan was Governor of California who later became President. Previous to that, which i have just learnt now, is he lead a Union (the actors Guild). So a fairly standard pathway for politicians in the US.

You think Le Tissier is going to stand for elected office? Good luck with that.

 

 

Ronald Reagan was , despite his jovial old buffer routine , was a hard right wing republican . Being head of the Actors Guild was like having a fox in charge of the hen house .

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4 minutes ago, John Boy Saint said:

Listening to Radio 2 on Saturday morning there is a guess the celebrity voice game on the Dermot O’Leary show. The successful listener to get through guessed Matty, Dermot building the tension of the game asked “is it the footballer and my nutty good friend Matt LeTissier” it wasn’t but O’Learys comment sound a bit strange.

if his views are being listened to enough to put pennies in his pocket as an internet “influencer” then fair play to him.  

Dermot O'Leary is famously a paid up member of the Deep State.

I don't remember what he said to be honest, I was too busy saying what a shit guess it was. The previous person said Roy Hodgson as well. Hopeless.

Universal suffrage is wasted on these people.

 

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10 hours ago, Sheaf Saint said:

People who are actually qualified to talk about these subjects, rather than thick as mince ex-footballers.

MLT is just another of so many people who believe themselves to be fierce free thinkers fighting the good fight against the dark forces that control the world, but who are actually just gullible idiots who believe everything they read on crackpot conspiracy websites because it fits their narrative and because they lack the intelligence to engage in proper critical thinking.

The vast majority of what he comes out with these days is just unfounded, paranoid nonsense cooked up in the minds of delusional people who spend their entire lives online. So although he may occasionally make the odd decent, valid point, they all get lost in the noise of the baseless bullshit. So the danger is that when someone like MLT, who has a public image and a semblance of credibility, uses his platform to disseminate large amounts of false information, a lot of people will take it at face value without bothering to fact / sense check it. And when large numbers of stupid people start believing a load of shit that isn't true, bad things like Donald fucking Trump winning the US presidency can become reality.

Yep, people who aren't blessed with as much intelligence as you or I should be excluded from democracy IMO. The world would be a better place if only clever people were allowed to vote*

 

*insert tongue-in-cheek disclaimer

 

 

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14 hours ago, SaintsLoyal said:

Already told himRomsey that he was a complete joke and embarrassment to the club.

I read he dismissed his ambassador role as 'nothng special' on another loony podcast.  Sad

 

Well at least distracted you from licking the windows for a moment and I'm sure he took what you had to say on board.

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