2022/23 Fixtures - Spurs (a) First

[trousers]

Just now, CB Fry said:

That is the fixture list of a relegated team.

Yep, looks like we're going to have to play all teams twice again. FFS.

[Scoobysaint]

Gonna be some six pointers at the end of the season!!

[BotleySaint]

Not too bad a start. Not bad finish except last game. Need to invest a lot more to improve the team if we want to compete though.

[Lighthouse]

Looking at that I’d say it was a tough August and relatively winnable post World Cup, new year period. Of course with Saints that’s…. Well, just word salad really.

[trousers]

Looking at the late March/early April fixtures, its a good job we're usually safe by February every season....

Edited 16 June, 2022 by trousers

[trousers]

1 hour ago, Scoobysaint said:

Gonna be some six pointers at the end of the season!!

You can foresee Forest, Fulham and Brighton battling for European qualification alongside us....? Seems a tad far fetched to me....

Edited 16 June, 2022 by trousers

[ErwinK1961]

Another season, another opening day defeat.

[Charlie Wayman]

That's 1 point from the first six games then. Guarantees us 20th spot in the table at the end of September and I'm an optimist!

Edited 16 June, 2022 by Charlie Wayman

[Dorchester Saint]

A slow start to the season on paper, but the window is not yet done. The 3 newly promoted teams in the last two months could be useful if we have our usual 2nd half season collapse. 
 

But of course is reality, none of us can predict what will happen….especially with this ridiculous World Cup halfway through the season. 

[S-Clarke]

Tough first month so I do expect another winless start, but Dec > March is quite kind and is an opportunity for us to do our usual 'mid season' burst and get what we need.

We avoid the promoted teams at the start which is a bonus. But unless we add quality to the first team then it's all academic really!

 

[trousers]

1 minute ago, Charlie Wayman said:

That's 1 point from the first six games then. Guarantees us 20th spot in the table at the end of September and I'm an optimist!

[SNSUN]

Of note... tough first game, tough first month, our run after the World Cup (post Christmas) looks decent, and the run in looks OK bar the last game which hopefully won't be relevant by then. Could be worse could be better.

 

No easy fixtures. We need to be beating the likes of Fulham, Forest, Bournemouth, Palace, Wolves, Brentford, Leeds, Everton who will all be direct competition if we want to stay up as well as getting our usual few points against the big boys. Still I think it will be a long season. We need attacking recruits and we need them fast.

[skintsaint]

Normally get a few weird results around in the first month so here's hoping!

[JRM]

Shame both Bournemouth home and away are midweek. New Forest derby would have been obvious choice for a super Sunday pick 

[Baird of the land]

Horrid start to the season for Saints. Beating Leeds in our first league game might be needed to get us going,

[Convict Colony]

Actually looking at our squad most of them should be refreshed and rested as I cant see too many of them going to the world cup so just like lockdown season when we had a break we were consistent across the whole season

[Toadhall Saint]

I personally think that we will win some, we will lose some, we will draw some. We will win some that we are expected to lose and we will lose some we expected to win - pretty much a normal season.

[trousers]

1 minute ago, Toadhall Saint said:

I personally think that we will win some, we will lose some, we will draw some. We will win some that we are expected to lose and we will lose some we expected to win - pretty much a normal season.

Not forgetting the "we're doomed" posts from the usual suspects around November...

[HarvSFC]

The run of Bournemouth, Newcastle, Nottingham Forest, Fulham and Brighton at the end is favourable. I guess you could even hope Arsenal have one of their off days and Palace prior to include those in the run. You’d just hope whatever we’re playing for doesn’t go down to the last game, and if it does then Liverpool need to be on their metaphorical beach, resting players before a Champions League final. 

[cloggy saint]

47 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said:

That's 1 point from the first six games then. Guarantees us 20th spot in the table at the end of September and I'm an optimist!

Ever thought about just ending it all?

[AlexLaw76]

Brentford and Leeds have tricky run-ins

[Sunglasses Ron]

It is what it is really, not much point in over-analysing.

Not optimistic that we'll improve our horrendous opening day record, but then we did beat Spuds in that game last season. 

Edited 16 June, 2022 by Sunglasses Ron

[Fabrice Fernandes no.1 fan]

BBC article states that: There are no meetings between the Premier League's so-called 'big six' on weekend of 12-13 November - the one before the World Cup - following a request by the Football Association.

We have liverpool the game before the World Cup, not quite sure why the FA would request this, or why it makes any sense. Half the England Squad will be on the benches for the big six anyway, so might be nice for them to all be playing each other so they can bond while warming up all game.

[Lighthouse]

What are we up to now, nine out of eleven opening day fixtures away from home, since promotion? I can only remember a 1-1 with Watford in Puel’s first game and a 0-0 with Swansea, at home.

[Lee On Solent Saint]

6 minutes ago, Fabrice Fernandes no.1 fan said:

BBC article states that: There are no meetings between the Premier League's so-called 'big six' on weekend of 12-13 November - the one before the World Cup - following a request by the Football Association.

We have liverpool the game before the World Cup, not quite sure why the FA would request this, or why it makes any sense. Half the England Squad will be on the benches for the big six anyway, so might be nice for them to all be playing each other so they can bond while warming up all game.

Think it just goes to show that the Premier League doesn't give a fuck about the other clubs outside the top six.

[nta786]

 

[qwertyell]

1 hour ago, nta786 said:

Aug 6 Tottenham (a)
Aug 13 Leeds United (h)
Aug 20 Leicester City (a)
Aug 27 Manchester United (h)
Aug 31 Chelsea (h)
Sep 3 Wolverhampton Wanderers (a)
Sep 10 Brentford (h)
Sep 17 Aston Villa (a)
Oct 1 Everton (h)
Oct 8 Manchester City (a)
Oct 15 West Ham United (h)
Oct 18 AFC Bournemouth (a)
Oct 22 Arsenal (h)
Oct 29 Crystal Palace (a)
Nov 5 Newcastle United (h)
Nov 12 Liverpool (a)
Dec 26 Brighton & Hove Albion (h)
Dec 31 Fulham (a)
Jan 2 Nottingham Forest (h)
Jan 14 Everton (a)
Jan 21 Aston Villa (h)
Feb 4 Brentford (a)
Feb 11 Wolverhampton Wanderers (h)
Feb 18 Chelsea (a)
Feb 25 Leeds United (a)
Mar 4 Leicester City (h)
Mar 11 Manchester United (a)
Mar 18 Tottenham Hotspur (h)
Apr 1 West Ham United (a)
Apr 8 Manchester City (h)
Apr 15 Crystal Palace (h)
Apr 22 Arsenal (a)
Apr 26 AFC Bournemouth (h)
Apr 29 Newcastle United (a)
May 6 Nottingham Forest (a)
May 13 Fulham (h)
May 20 Brighton & Hove Albion (a)
May 28 Liverpool (h)

So, if Hasenhuttl's being given the first 9 games (think that was the rumour) to prove his worth, that'll be a caretaker in for City away, and a new manager starting at home against West Ham. 

[The Cat]

Bit annoyed to miss Leicester away because we'll be at a festival. Was looking forward to another amazing curry.

Also miss Wolves away for another festival but not so fussed as it's a shit away end.

[The Cat]

7 wins on the trot from Brighton at home to Wolves at home and we can get all excited about European football again!

[nta786]

1 minute ago, The Cat said:

7 wins on the trot from Brighton at home to Wolves at home and we can get all excited about European football again!

except one of those games in those fixtures is everton at goodison park! we don't do wins there  

[nta786]

10 minutes ago, qwertyell said:

So, if Hasenhuttl's being given the first 9 games (think that was the rumour) to prove his worth, that'll be a caretaker in for City away, and a new manager starting at home against West Ham. 

“That was really hard to swallow ... Lukaku was so important for us, not just because of his goals. If things were not going well in a game, if we could not play the way we were used to, there was always the option to use the long ball towards him.”

Everton faced Chelsea, Manchester United, Manchester City, Arsenal and Tottenham Hotspur in their opening nine league games and Koeman, who spent heavily in the summer to overhaul the squad, said he knew it would be tough going when the fixture list came out.

“I looked at it and saw that five of our first nine games would be against clubs from last season’s top six...,” Koeman added.

“I said to myself, ‘Phew! That is not going to be an easy run, in particular with a Europa League run at the same time’. And, most of all, because I had lost my striker Lukaku.”

^^^Koeman's words after he got sacked by Everton... I'd say based on those fixtures our fans could be restless after the Wolves game if it goes pear shaped

[Toadhall Saint]

35 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Think it just goes to show that the Premier League doesn't give a fuck about the other clubs outside the top six.

Nail on head

[LiberalCommunist]

That last six games is bonkers. If we are fighting to stay up, then that's a 'in your own hands' run if ever I've seen one!

Man, I hope we start well and avoid the stress. 

[LaptopSaint]

Just need to be firing on all cylinders straight after the World Cup. No excuses. COYR

[LaptopSaint]

25 minutes ago, qwertyell said:

So, if Hasenhuttl's being given the first 9 games (think that was the rumour) to prove his worth, that'll be a caretaker in for City away, and a new manager starting at home against West Ham. 

Given the unusual nature of the season, the obvious time to make a change if needed would be after 16 games. New manager beds in during the World Cup. Very few of our players likely to be part of the QFs onwards (JWP maybe, who else?). 22 game season starts on Boxing Day. 

[Pamplemousse]

Interestingly, unless we get a home draw in the League Cup, the game against Brentford will be our 500th competitive game at St Mary's.

[maysie]

Is the Jan transfer window the same as usual? Just wondering if any changes due to WC…

[Sunglasses Ron]

1 hour ago, nta786 said:

 

I think I worked out last year that's it's two Premier League wins in 23 seasons (spanning 30 years): 

> Coventry away in 1999 (1-0)

> West Brom away in 2013 (1-0)

That's absolutely dreadful by anyone's standards.  If you pro-rated that win rate (9%) over a season then we'd secure 10 points!

Edit: Just checked our Championship / League 1 record and it was just one win seven seasons, Leeds home in 2011 (3-1).

 

Edited 16 June, 2022 by Sunglasses Ron

[so22saint]

I was at the Coventry game, got absolutely mashed as we expected a defeat 🤣

[cloggy saint]

14 minutes ago, Sunglasses Ron said:

I think I worked out last year that's it's two Premier League wins in about 23 seasons (spanning 30 years): 

> Coventry away in 1999 (1-0)

> West Brom away in 2013 (1-0)

That's absolutely dreadful by anyone's standards. 

 

Not really, it's just one game in isolation.

[Sunglasses Ron]

1 minute ago, cloggy saint said:

Not really, it's just one game in isolation.

Yes, of course, but it begs the question why has the first game of the season been such a problem for us over such a long period of time.

I'm fascinated to understand this better!

[JRM]

12 minutes ago, Sunglasses Ron said:

Yes, of course, but it begs the question why has the first game of the season been such a problem for us over such a long period of time.

I'm fascinated to understand this better!

In all the many years I've been going we often have started badly, I remember a win at home to West Ham 1988 I think, but generally we're slow starters despite changing managers, players, stadiums, some things don't change 

[DJ_TOAST]

Pleased with a Boxing Day home game again finally
Fulham away on 31st Dec is shame, crappy date for a fun away 

[Sunglasses Ron]

23 minutes ago, JRM said:

In all the many years I've been going we often have started badly, I remember a win at home to West Ham 1988 I think, but generally we're slow starters despite changing managers, players, stadiums, some things don't change 

The longer this goes on the more you wonder whether that highlighted bit of text has become engrained in the club.  Do we now go into games knowing about this terrible record and thinking "we're going to lose, but that's ok as that's what we always do".  Unlikely, but as good an explanation as any I guess!

[Micky]

4 hours ago, ErwinK1961 said:

Another season, another opening day defeat.

Beenthereseenitdunit, assureaseggsiseggs, etc etc

[Bad Wolf]

I can't believe we have to play 38 games this time and each team twice?! Such a fix because everyone hates us. I don't even remember the last time we won at Spurs either 😡

[Whitey Grandad]

2 hours ago, maysie said:

Is the Jan transfer window the same as usual? Just wondering if any changes due to WC…

Opens Sunday January 1st 2023

[Thereisonlyonemickychannon]

12 hours ago, nta786 said:

Aug 6 Tottenham (a)
Aug 13 Leeds United (h)
Aug 20 Leicester City (a)
Aug 27 Manchester United (h)
Aug 31 Chelsea (h)
Sep 3 Wolverhampton Wanderers (a)
Sep 10 Brentford (h)
Sep 17 Aston Villa (a)
Oct 1 Everton (h)
Oct 8 Manchester City (a)
Oct 15 West Ham United (h)
Oct 18 AFC Bournemouth (a)
Oct 22 Arsenal (h)
Oct 29 Crystal Palace (a)
Nov 5 Newcastle United (h)
Nov 12 Liverpool (a)
Dec 26 Brighton & Hove Albion (h)
Dec 31 Fulham (a)
Jan 2 Nottingham Forest (h)
Jan 14 Everton (a)
Jan 21 Aston Villa (h)
Feb 4 Brentford (a)
Feb 11 Wolverhampton Wanderers (h)
Feb 18 Chelsea (a)
Feb 25 Leeds United (a)
Mar 4 Leicester City (h)
Mar 11 Manchester United (a)
Mar 18 Tottenham Hotspur (h)
Apr 1 West Ham United (a)
Apr 8 Manchester City (h)
Apr 15 Crystal Palace (h)
Apr 22 Arsenal (a)
Apr 26 AFC Bournemouth (h)
Apr 29 Newcastle United (a)
May 6 Nottingham Forest (a)
May 13 Fulham (h)
May 20 Brighton & Hove Albion (a)
May 28 Liverpool (h)

I have worked it out.

Saints will get 43 points....a little better than last season and safe...

[Holmes_and_Watson]

12 minutes ago, Thereisonlyonemickychannon said:

I have worked it out.

Saints will get 43 points....a little better than last season and safe...

Whew! That's a weight off. Thanks for confirming. 🙂

[Forester]

Five games in August means the pressure will build very quickly if results are poor and you have to say that already for Ralph the Leeds game looks huge.  While in reality everyone plays everyone twice, momentum is crucial and after a shocking end to the season (was it five points from twelve games?) I could easily see this becoming six points from 17 games which would just be incredible.