Kick-ins instead of throw-ins: a potential rule change!

[Matthew Le God]

[S-Clarke]

At least that will firmly put to bed the Salisu throw-in nonsense.

[Matthew Le God]

No more Salisu 'long throws' and lots more Ward-Prowse!

[Matthew Le God]

  On 13/06/2022 at 16:39, S-Clarke said:

At least that will firmly put to bed the Salisu throw-in nonsense.

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Exactly!

[The Cat]

Didn't they trial this in the Wessex League a while back and bin it off as a bit of a crap idea?

[The Kraken]

I would think this would slow down play as lots of attacking throw ins could be treated as a corner.

[The Cat]

Next it will be roll on roll off subs and specialist players employed just to lump kick ins into the opposition box from their own half.

[Suhari]

Nice. Back to proper football. None of this possession bollocks.

"Get it in the fucking mixer!"

[Whitey Grandad]

You can't be offside from a throw-in. Would the same apply to a kick-in?

 

[Bad Wolf]

  On 13/06/2022 at 16:39, S-Clarke said:

At least that will firmly put to bed the Salisu throw-in nonsense.

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Trading Salisu's throws for JWP's kicks may be the best upgrade in professional sports history.

[Lighthouse]

Just play off the boards, like in five a side. Same behind the goals.

[sibster]

The moment you get to out-MLG the man himself and remind him that it would be a change to the laws of association football rather than the rules....... 😁

As for the mooted law change itself I'm really not a fan if I'm honest; throw ins have worked just fine since the 1880s so why change it now? 

[Whitey Grandad]

  On 13/06/2022 at 18:25, sibster said:

The moment you get to out-MLG the man himself and remind him that it would be a change to the laws of association football rather than the rules....... 😁

As for the mooted law change itself I'm really not a fan if I'm honest; throw ins have worked just fine since the 1880s so why change it now? 

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Since 1863

[Matthew Le God]

  On 13/06/2022 at 18:25, sibster said:

The moment you get to out-MLG the man himself and remind him that it would be a change to the laws of association football rather than the rules....... 😁

As for the mooted law change itself I'm really not a fan if I'm honest; throw ins have worked just fine since the 1880s so why change it now? 

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Kick-ins were allowed beforehand. So if anything... that makes them more traditional!

[steve green]

  On 13/06/2022 at 16:51, The Cat said:

Didn't they trial this in the Wessex League a while back and bin it off as a bit of a crap idea?

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I remember watching a game or two at Bognor in the 90s where they tried it for a season. Bloody pointless, slowed down the play and you could see the poor player's having a panic attack while struggling with the decision to 'kick or throw'.

[nta786]

Silly idea, personally think it would slow the game down more as players try to get into position akin to a corner.

Also if I was a defender I’d actively try to give a corner away than for a “kick-in”.

Having said that, I’m willing to bet this idea won’t come to fruition and will remain as that - just an idea.

[Turkish]

Just stop fucking around with the game

[niceandfriendly]

Think they're looking at it with a time restriction, for example a maximum of 5 seconds allowed to take the kick-in. The amount of time lost in the game to throw ins is a farce. Good that they're trying to fix that. Let's see if time restricted kick-ins do the trick. Time restricted throw ins could work also though.

[skintsaint]

If its about time lost, then just have a third party look after the clock and stop it when the ball is out of play etc. Will stop time wasting etc too. 

[Whitey Grandad]

  On 14/06/2022 at 02:42, niceandfriendly said:

Think they're looking at it with a time restriction, for example a maximum of 5 seconds allowed to take the kick-in. The amount of time lost in the game to throw ins is a farce. Good that they're trying to fix that. Let's see if time restricted kick-ins do the trick. Time restricted throw ins could work also though.

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The same goes for throw-ins.

Why don't they change it so that you have to throw the ball backwards over your head?

[The Cat]

Just enforce a time limit like they did with keepers holding the ball (is it still even a law as I haven't seen it enforced for ages?) and start carding people if they take the piss.

[Give it to Ron]

How far does a defender have to retreat more ref’s magic spray?

We do this in walking football and it’s 3 metres same I guess.

Edited 14 June, 2022 by Give it to Ron

[Gingeletiss]

I’ve advocated this for a few years now, would certainly make for a more interesting game.

[Saint_lambden]

Are we going to get through one season without them pissing around with the rules? IFAB just trying to justify their existence. 

[Turkish]

  On 14/06/2022 at 09:31, Saint_lambden said:

Are we going to get through one season without them pissing around with the rules? IFAB just trying to justify their existence. 

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Was it last season where they changed the handball rule during the season? No idea how they can be allowed to do that.

[manji]

  On 13/06/2022 at 16:56, The Kraken said:

I would think this would slow down play as lots of attacking throw ins could be treated as a corner.

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That would allow broadcasters to squeeze in adverts. Maybe interview players as they are subbed.

[Bad Wolf]

  On 13/06/2022 at 23:08, Turkish said:

Just stop fucking around with the game

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Why? Change is part of life. There's no harm in trying it and if it doesn't work, they can go back.

[skintsaint]

  On 14/06/2022 at 12:40, Bad Wolf said:

There's no harm in trying it and if it doesn't work, they can go back.

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its already been trialled before.

[wild-saint]

No chance this will happen surely? Trail it in the women's game rather than fuck up men's footy if they really need to. 

[Whitey Grandad]

  On 14/06/2022 at 12:40, Bad Wolf said:

Why? Change is part of life. There's no harm in trying it and if it doesn't work, they can go back.

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Change is not inevitable. Why break it if it ain’t broke?

[Matthew Le God]

  On 14/06/2022 at 14:39, Whitey Grandad said:

Change is not inevitable. Why break it if it ain’t broke?

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[Bad Wolf]

  On 14/06/2022 at 14:39, Whitey Grandad said:

Change is not inevitable. Why break it if it ain’t broke?

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Because it can quite easily be changed back again if it doesn't work. There's no harm in trailing it it.

[Badger]

  On 13/06/2022 at 23:08, Turkish said:

Just stop fucking around with the game

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Some people won’t be happy until they’ve buggered about with it for the sake of it.

Anyone else remember the tweaking of the offside rule in the 1970’s ? I think it was in the Watneys Cup, or early Texaco Cup. The 18 yard line on the penalty area was extended the full width of the pitch and the player could only be offside on the goalside of this line. In other words couldn’t be offside for about two-thirds of the opposition half.

No idea the impact, other than it was rapidly discontinued.

[Whitey Grandad]

  On 14/06/2022 at 14:51, Bad Wolf said:

Because it can quite easily be changed back again if it doesn't work. There's no harm in trailing it it.

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But why?

[Matthew Le God]

  On 14/06/2022 at 20:00, Whitey Grandad said:

But why?

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Were one of those complaining when they changed the rules from kick-ins to throw-ins in 1863?

[Whitey Grandad]

  On 14/06/2022 at 22:06, Matthew Le God said:

Were one of those complaining when they changed the rules from kick-ins to throw-ins in 1863?

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No, I couldn’t get online.

[skintsaint]

https://www.nonleaguematters.co.uk/forum/gforum.cgi?post=561466

[kwsaint]

It's a stupid idea.  Would have hoped that Arsene Wenger would have known better.  When it was trialled it slowed the game down.  Had to wait for players to get into the opposition box before lumping the ball forward.

They are just flying a kite.  Can't see it happening

[adrian lord]

Would change the game very significantly. Rather like Rugby League is in relation to Union regarding scrums. Fine, do it....but bugger off and call it something different and play it in weird towns in the north. 

Edited 15 June, 2022 by adrian lord

[Bad Wolf]

  On 14/06/2022 at 20:00, Whitey Grandad said:

But why?

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But why not? Change is part of life.

[Whitey Grandad]

  On 15/06/2022 at 15:23, Bad Wolf said:

But why not? Change is part of life.

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Change just for the sake of it is not good. The sport of football is loved and played world wide using the current set of laws which have taken well over a hundred years to adjust and perfect. 

Any changes can be trialed in some minor league before being rejected.  As has this one.

[Charlie Wayman]

Too many tinker men in modern football. It ain't broke! 

[Matthew Le God]

  On 15/06/2022 at 18:20, Charlie Wayman said:

Too many tinker men in modern football. It ain't broke! 

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Watch the Rasmus Ankersen video I linked to earlier in the thread about that phrase!

[Bad Wolf]

  On 15/06/2022 at 17:47, Whitey Grandad said:

Change just for the sake of it is not good. The sport of football is loved and played world wide using the current set of laws which have taken well over a hundred years to adjust and perfect. 

Any changes can be trialed in some minor league before being rejected.  As has this one.

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Change for the sake of change is far better than not trying anything new out of fear it may not be as good.

[Badger]

  On 15/06/2022 at 06:51, skintsaint said:

https://www.nonleaguematters.co.uk/forum/gforum.cgi?post=561466

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An interesting read including another link to YouTube showing a match played as part of the trial, at non league level, in the 1990’s

Something I noticed was how a fullback was happy to simply watch the ball trickle out of play for a ‘kick in’. Under the current system the tendency would be to get his head down and bomb up the wing or look to play it forward quickly. 

[kenneth_kenobi]

Would slow up the game even more - teams sending all their big guys forward every time there is a kick in

Edited 16 June, 2022 by kenneth_kenobi

[Doctoroncall]

  On 13/06/2022 at 16:57, The Cat said:

Next it will be roll on roll off subs and specialist players employed just to lump kick ins into the opposition box from their own half.

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That is also an idea - roll on roll off subs, as well as being able to dribble from a free kick. 

[Fan The Flames]

The rule change I would like to see is the ball has to be dead still before a free kick can be taken. It's annoying when the ball is hardly moving and the kick is taken quickly, and the ref stops the game, pulls the play back for the geezer to play the same ball again. Pointless.

[LiberalCommunist]

  On 15/06/2022 at 18:54, Bad Wolf said:

Change for the sake of change is far better than not trying anything new out of fear it may not be as good.

 

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Totally disagree. Were it not for the fear, the guys running the shit show would have Cola-Soccer looking like an LED strobe light NFL advert already.

Screw those guys in suits making this shit up. The bastardising of the game needs to stop.

[Charlie Wayman]

  On 17/06/2022 at 05:53, LiberalCommunist said:

Totally disagree. Were it not for the fear, the guys running the shit show would have Cola-Soccer looking like an LED strobe light NFL advert already.

Screw those guys in suits making this shit up. The bastardising of the game needs to stop.

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Hear! Hear!