Goalkeepers Since Promotion

[Dusic]

Rank the keepers who have made a PL app since promotion.

Simultaneously realise how weak a position it has been for us!

IMO:

1. Artur Boruc

2. Fraser Forster

3. Alex McCarthy

4. Willy Caballero

5. Angus Gunn

6. Maarten Stekelenburg

7. Kelvin Davis

8. Paolo Gazzaniga

 

[SambaMaverick]

On their respective best days:

1. Forster

2. Boruc

3. McCarthy

4. Stekelenburg

5. Davis

6. Gunn

=7. Gazzaniga and Caballero

[Green]

To be fair to Gunn, I remember him having a really good game away at Chelsea where he kept a clean sheet. I'm not sure Davis ever had a game as good as that in the PL. 

 

For me Forster at his best was our best PL keeper and then Boruc, not really sure there's much between the others. 

[Midfield_General]

Stekelenburg was an odd one. If it looked one he should save, he did. If you thought ‘that’ll probably go in’, it did. Can’t remember him making a single memorable save, but can’t remember any real errors either. Never won us games, never lost us them. Wasn’t particularly great or particularly poor at crosses, coming off his line, distribution or organisation. Just a 6.5/10 every week, like a pot of grey paint wearing gloves. 

[Appy]

Boruc 

Forster 

Stekelenberg

McCarthy

Gunn

Caballero

Gazzaniga

Davis

[S-Clarke]

Based on the records/form we had under them -

Forster - We had one of our longest runs not conceding with him in the side, just after he'd got back from injury.

Boruc - He was solid for his 18 or so months in our team, thought he was treated quite harshly by being forced out. I can't forget that goal away at Stoke though.

Steklenberg - Decent cover, not amazing but an experienced enough player who was part of a decent side.

McCarthy - Should have been no more than a squad player really, backup at most (which is what he was signed as). Pretty poor as a regular. Anyone part of a 9-0 isn't going to be remembered too fondly.

Gazzaniga - Error prone and eractic. He could pull off decent stops, but he was just a bit too eractic to be regular at this level.

Gunn - 9-0 say no more, he was horrendous.

Davis - Like a rabit in headlights sadly. Great for us on our return to the PL, but totally out of his depth once we were there.

Cabbalero - Hard to rate him really, didn't play too many times. 

Edited 13 June, 2022 by S-Clarke

[Bad Wolf]

  On 13/06/2022 at 11:36, Green said:

To be fair to Gunn, I remember him having a really good game away at Chelsea where he kept a clean sheet. I'm not sure Davis ever had a game as good as that in the PL. 

 

For me Forster at his best was our best PL keeper and then Boruc, not really sure there's much between the others. 

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Davis had good games against City and United respectively, in the first 3-4 games of the season.

[Bad Wolf]

All awful. Every one of them.

[skintsaint]

  On 13/06/2022 at 12:51, S-Clarke said:

I can't forget that goal away at Stoke though.

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The Arsenal one bothered me more, we were gunning (yes pun) for top spot if we beat them at the time. Then he decides to try and dribble out.

[Saint_clark]

  On 13/06/2022 at 12:27, Appy said:

Boruc 

Forster 

Stekelenberg

McCarthy

Gunn

Caballero

Gazzaniga

Davis

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Yep, I'd agree with that. 

[Matthew Le God]

Forster 

Boruc 

Stekelenberg

McCarthy

Caballero

Gazzaniga

Gunn

Davis

[The Left Back]

Whatever order it's put in, it's not a great list.  That run of clean sheets by Forster in his early days stands out, but my (vague) memory of that was that it didn't require a herculean effort by the keeper.

It's surprising we haven't been able to upgrade on keepers at all really in our 10 years. I think we've probably had at least 2 stand-out names in every other position.

Perhaps this summer?  

[Bad Wolf]

  On 13/06/2022 at 16:35, The Left Back said:

Whatever order it's put in, it's not a great list.  That run of clean sheets by Forster in his early days stands out, but my (vague) memory of that was that it didn't require a herculean effort by the keeper.

It's surprising we haven't been able to upgrade on keepers at all really in our 10 years. I think we've probably had at least 2 stand-out names in every other position.

Perhaps this summer?  

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Quite correct. He had Fonte and VVD in front of him who were themselves covered by Wanyama and Morgan.

[Miltonaggro]

  On 13/06/2022 at 12:27, Appy said:

Boruc 

Forster 

Stekelenberg

McCarthy

Gunn

Caballero

Gazzaniga

Davis

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This for me too.  Boruc had a potential for lunacy, but on his day a very solid all round keeper.

[Jeremy Corbyn]

Whilst I accept McCarthy's limitations and don't want him as first choice, he was our POTS in the 2017/18 season so surely better than Stekelenberg?

My memory has Boruc as absolutely brilliant, partly because he was excellent under Poch and partly because he was such a magnificent upgrade on Davis.

[skintsaint]

  On 14/06/2022 at 11:45, Jeremy Corbyn said:

 

My memory has Boruc as absolutely brilliant, partly because he was excellent under Poch and partly because he was such a magnificent upgrade on Davis.

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And partly because he was free.

[Turkish]

  On 14/06/2022 at 11:45, Jeremy Corbyn said:

 

My memory has Boruc as absolutely brilliant, partly because he was excellent under Poch and partly because he was such a magnificent upgrade on Davis.

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Just retired. Was a really good keeper, really liked him as a player a good character around the place. Still think it was a strange move to replace him with Forster who ceratinly wasn't any better than Boruc.

[a1ex2001]

  On 14/06/2022 at 12:00, skintsaint said:

And partly because he was free.

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Was a brilliant bit of business he came in and suddenly we looked solid!

[Convict Colony]

Should extend the thread title to...have been shit

[Kenilworthy]

  On 29/06/2022 at 16:49, a1ex2001 said:

Was a brilliant bit of business he came in and suddenly we looked solid!

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Never forget the save at Anfield where he pulled the ball out of the net and we won 1-0

[Dellman]

  On 13/06/2022 at 14:21, Bad Wolf said:

All awful. Every one of them.

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Well, four internationals among them

[Ex Lion Tamer]

  On 13/06/2022 at 17:40, Bad Wolf said:

Quite correct. He had Fonte and VVD in front of him who were themselves covered by Wanyama and Morgan.

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And yet they were conceding goals until Forster came into the team

 

[Bad Wolf]

  On 29/06/2022 at 20:47, Dellman said:

Well, four internationals among them

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Danny Higginbotham was an international aged 40 odd.

[cloggy saint]

  On 13/06/2022 at 14:21, Bad Wolf said:

All awful. Every one of them.

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Such a silly comment. If they were all 'awful' they'd be playing Sunday league.

[Bad Wolf]

  On 30/06/2022 at 09:59, cloggy saint said:

Such a silly comment. If they were all 'awful' they'd be playing Sunday league.

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Well obviously relative to the standard they were playing at.

[Matthew Le God]

  On 13/06/2022 at 14:21, Bad Wolf said:

All awful. Every one of them.

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Our keepers must have been doing something right in 2014/15! Only 33 goals conceded in 38 Premier League games. Saints were 2nd in defensive record behind Chelsea who conceded only one less at 32 goals.

You dismissing that as... they had Alderweireld, Fonte, Schneiderlin and Wanyama in front of them still wouldn't see an awful keeper have the 2nd best record in the league! Our defence wasn't impregnable that season to the extent the keeper didn't need to do anything, Fraser Forster did a lot better than 'awful'!

Same the following season for our keepers in 2015/16... only 41 goals conceded in 38 PL games. Sure a very good defensive unit in front helps. But an 'awful' keeper behind a very good defence still concedes a lot of goals.

Edited 30 June, 2022 by Matthew Le God