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3 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Why? It wouldn’t change its nature. It was stupid and unnecessary. JWP was having a right go at the culprit.

 

For someone whose apparent strengths are having the ball at his feet, that is just dreadful. I'm not saying it's the best pass, but is that really how a Sunday League goalkeeper deals with it - let alone a PL player?

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It is pointless expending energy arguing and complaining on this thread, as Bazunu is undroppable. Whatever the 3 managers have seen in him I can't imagine, but he is going to be our starting GK until the end of the season, barring injury.

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9 minutes ago, SambaMaverick said:

 

For someone whose apparent strengths are having the ball at his feet, that is just dreadful. I'm not saying it's the best pass, but is that really how a Sunday League goalkeeper deals with it - let alone a PL player?

It was a simple mis-kick from a horribly bouncing back pass. It happens to all keepers at some point.

True, it seems to happen to Bazunu more frequently than others, but I've seen far better keepers than him do far worse than that before and been punished for it.

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Whitey Grandad

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10 minutes ago, SambaMaverick said:

 

For someone whose apparent strengths are having the ball at his feet, that is just dreadful. I'm not saying it's the best pass, but is that really how a Sunday League goalkeeper deals with it - let alone a PL player?

Yep. That’s how I remember it. A loose bouncing pass across the face of the goal. KWP wasn’t it? Totally unnecessary and rightly bollocked for it. That ball wasn’t ’at his feet’

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3 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

It was a simple mis-kick from a horribly bouncing back pass. It happens to all keepers at some point.

True, it seems to happen to Bazunu more frequently than others, but I've seen far better keepers than him do far worse than that before and been punished for it.

 

2 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Yep. That’s how I remember it. A loose bouncing pass across the face of the goal. KWP wasn’t it? Totally unnecessary and rightly bollocked for it. That ball wasn’t ’at his feet’

Agree to disagree I guess. I still think he needs dropping, clean sheet or not - it was nothing to do with him.

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Bazunu isn’t the best keeper and isn’t ready for the Prem.

But anyone that thinks he had a crap game today need to give their head a wobble, and maybe just for this week put aside their personal vendetta against him.

One misplaced pass. He didn’t have anything else to do today. 👍🏻

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Lighthouse

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1 hour ago, MAY-Z said:

There has never been worse take on this forum. Ever.

if we go down this year it will largely be Baz’s inability to make a save that takes us down.

 

Forster was a massive reason we stayed up last year

There has never been a worse take on this forum than McC and Willy being substandard keepers, who won’t be an improvement on Bazunu?

If we go down this season it’s because we have nothing resembling a remotely competent goal scorer in our entire squad. Our three main threats being a man who‘s better at scoring a 30 yard free kick than a penalty, a left back who isn’t even on the pitch and a guy who apparently rips his own legs off celebrating. Bazunu is a poor PL keeper but he’s not our main problem.

Forster was not a massive reason we stayed up last year, he put in some awful performances in some of our worst games.

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34 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Let me see if I’ve got this right.

He’s a terrible keeper because he didn’t have a shot to save?

We won despite of him not because of him. Flapped at that cross in the last minute when they hit the bar, dreadful kick straight to their striker who should have done better. He didn’t have much to do but what he did he is badly they had 3-4 golden chances and fluffed them

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44 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

It was a simple mis-kick from a horribly bouncing back pass. It happens to all keepers at some point.

True, it seems to happen to Bazunu more frequently than others, but I've seen far better keepers than him do far worse than that before and been punished for it.

Exactly. Allison fucked one or even 2 up recently. Saw someone on here earlier calling Bazunu a clown. He's 20 years old playing in goal for a terrible team in the hardest league in the world. 

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8 hours ago, SambaMaverick said:

 

For someone whose apparent strengths are having the ball at his feet, that is just dreadful. I'm not saying it's the best pass, but is that really how a Sunday League goalkeeper deals with it - let alone a PL player?

That’s an abysmal back-pass, under no pressure and there’s no excuse for it. Yes, Baz should do better and with likes of those, you just stick your foot through it and have it away… But I’d be fuming with one of those back to me with oppo’s on the edge of the box. 

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13 minutes ago, Barsiem said:

I suspect he would have made you nervous if he'd been playing for us as a 20 year old!

Quite.

Bazunu is 20 and some of the abuse he gets on here is just outrageous. I agree he’s looked out of his depth at times but this is a keeper in his first full PL season for a team that’s struggling. The pressure must be immense. Even a young Casillas would struggle in this team. Bazunu doesn’t have the luxury of playing with World Class defenders.  I believe Bednarek was the cause of the Leeds goal and that would’ve been three clean sheets on the bounce for him taking last night’s win into account.

This experience should only make him stronger. I’m looking forward to his improvement next season, whether it’s in the Prem or the Championship. 

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1 minute ago, Maggie May said:

Quite.

Bazunu is 20 and some of the abuse he gets on here is just outrageous. I agree he’s looked out of his depth at times but this is a keeper in his first full PL season for a team that’s struggling. The pressure must be immense. Even a young Casillas would struggle in this team. Bazunu doesn’t have the luxury of playing with World Class defenders.  I believe Bednarek was the cause of the Leeds goal and that would’ve been three clean sheets on the bounce for him taking last night’s win into account.

This experience should only make him stronger. I’m looking forward to his improvement next season, whether it’s in the Prem or the Championship. 

You are saying the same thing as everyone else....which according to you it outrageous 

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1 hour ago, Barsiem said:

I suspect he would have made you nervous if he'd been playing for us as a 20 year old!

If he’s so nervous that it’s making him play crap then he shouldn’t be playing. I know Martin Semmens might spout crap about league positions don’t matter and this club is all about a pathway for young players but unfortunately it does matter and if a player isn’t up to it whatever the reason then they shouldn’t be playing, for our good as well as their own.

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1 hour ago, Maggie May said:

Quite.

Bazunu is 20 and some of the abuse he gets on here is just outrageous. I agree he’s looked out of his depth at times but this is a keeper in his first full PL season for a team that’s struggling. The pressure must be immense. Even a young Casillas would struggle in this team. Bazunu doesn’t have the luxury of playing with World Class defenders.  I believe Bednarek was the cause of the Leeds goal and that would’ve been three clean sheets on the bounce for him taking last night’s win into account.

This experience should only make him stronger. I’m looking forward to his improvement next season, whether it’s in the Prem or the Championship. 

At 20 years old, your athleticism and shot stopping ability is all there.  Experience will improve his decision making, but sadly not his shot-stopping, which is nowhere near Prem standard.

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Lord Duckhunter

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11 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Did nothing wrong today. Go find a different punchbag.

We won despite him. He made two horrendous mistakes that any other week would have resulted in goals. He’s a clown and anyone who thinks he did nothing wrong has to be clueless. 

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10 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Do you realise how ridiculous that sounds?

It isn’t ridiculous it right. He made two terrible mistakes and Leicester missed about 4 golden chances. He didn’t have a lot to do but he didn’t do what he had to do very well

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10 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Let me see if I’ve got this right.

He’s a terrible keeper because he didn’t have a shot to save?

No, he’s a terrible keeper because he doesn’t save any shots. 

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Hes awful. Needs dropping which has been obvious for months. 
 

Had we invested in a proper keeper, I think we’d be out the drop zone right now.
 

Obviously we have other issues within the squad, but this clown is one of, if not, the biggest. 

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Lord Duckhunter

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It was their poor finishing that won us the points yesterday, fuck all to do with our keeper. The superman impression at the end just summed him up, it was probably the worst goalkeeping display I’ve ever seen for a clean sheet. He’s going to cost us again if we don’t bin him now. 

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Ineacho missed two free header in the centre of goal from 6 yards out

A chance when Bazunu kicked it right to him unmarked on the edge of the area

hit the bar from a free header after Bazunu throwing himself at the ball and missing

We got lucky really as their finishing was shit and so was our defending

on the flip side of Alcarez had been sent of which he could have been we might have had the advantage of playing most of the game with 10 men

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10 hours ago, Turkish said:

We won despite of him not because of him. Flapped at that cross in the last minute when they hit the bar, dreadful kick straight to their striker who should have done better. He didn’t have much to do but what he did he is badly they had 3-4 golden chances and fluffed them

I’ve thought about this a bit more and I think Whitey and Lighty are right

 

The best thing for Baz to have done was flap at that cross, in the hope it put him off.

 

Because if the header was on target there is close to zero % chance it would’ve been saved no matter where it went or how powerfully it went there

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10 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

There has never been a worse take on this forum than McC and Willy being substandard keepers, who won’t be an improvement on Bazunu?

If we go down this season it’s because we have nothing resembling a remotely competent goal scorer in our entire squad. Our three main threats being a man who‘s better at scoring a 30 yard free kick than a penalty, a left back who isn’t even on the pitch and a guy who apparently rips his own legs off celebrating. Bazunu is a poor PL keeper but he’s not our main problem.

Forster was not a massive reason we stayed up last year, he put in some awful performances in some of our worst games.

This is the point. McC reminded us against Grimsby just how bad he is. Forget the penalties which he never looked remotely like getting close to, he can't seem to kick the ball more than 5 yards. His distribution is awful. Willy just looks slow, and as someone said, it looks like we've got Baz until the end of the season. Yes he flaps, yes you take a deep breath every time the ball goes in to our penalty area but the focus has to be up the other end of the pitch.

And on that sutjuect, a lot to like about Alcaraz in that JWP-type more forward role. Just tell his to that make-a-heart-with-your-fingers thingy when he scores next time!

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2 minutes ago, MAY-Z said:

I’ve thought about this a bit more and I think Whitey and Lighty are right

 

The best thing for Baz to have done was flap at that cross, in the hope it put him off.

 

Because if the header was on target there is close to zero % chance it would’ve been saved no matter where it went or how powerfully it went there

I’m not really sure how in any world the best thing to do is to flap at a cross in the last minute of injury time and leave a player with an open goal six yards out. 

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I understand people wanting McCarthy in, and i’m not against it. Not Caballero though, he isn’t better than Bazunu, regardless of what people say - the mistakes he made yesterday are par for the course for Willy, he’s been doing stuff like that regularly throughout his career.

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Thought he did OK. The backpass was from an injury return, so I think we assumed leicseter would honour it and not try to chase it down immediately.

He did enough to put the player off scoring in the final seconds, and that's 2pts gained as far as I'm concerned...

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Lord Duckhunter

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15 minutes ago, Turkish said:

I’m not really sure how in any world the best thing to do is to flap at a cross in the last minute of injury time and leave a player with an open goal six yards out. 

Perhaps this “putting off” goalkeeper style explains his awful positioning as well, he’s hoping  the striker taking the shot is put off by his poor positioning. Maybe he’s actually ahead of his time and us dinosaurs can’t see it. In years to come the Baz putting off style will replace actually making saves, catching crosses and passing to our own players, standard goalkeeping skills will be a thing of the past. 

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6 minutes ago, ashnats said:

Thought he did OK. The backpass was from an injury return, so I think we assumed leicseter would honour it and not try to chase it down immediately.

He did enough to put the player off scoring in the final seconds, and that's 2pts gained as far as I'm concerned...

what?

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22 minutes ago, saintwbu said:

I understand people wanting McCarthy in, and i’m not against it. Not Caballero though, he isn’t better than Bazunu, regardless of what people say - the mistakes he made yesterday are par for the course for Willy, he’s been doing stuff like that regularly throughout his career.

I don't believe that Willy, or probably any other keeper in a PL clubs first team squad, would have flapped at that cross like Baz. His positioning at various times was as shocking as usual as well. I also think several of Bednarek's decisions were based on his lack of faith in Baz behind him - clearances to touch were considered safer than relying on his keeper. 

He's appalling and I'd replace him with whoever out of McCarthy and Willy is doing best in training. 

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Whitey Grandad

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11 hours ago, Archers Road Stand said:

Salisu clearer off the line from his mistake vs Bournemouth and the Leicester player missed a sitter tonight after he flapped at a cross. 

Shite keeper. League one at best. 

But we weren’t playing Bournemouth???

He missed what you called a sitter because he he came for that cross.

Whatever anyone might think of his abilities yesterday was not a reason to criticise him.

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4 minutes ago, ashnats said:

Thought he did OK. The backpass was from an injury return, so I think we assumed leicseter would honour it and not try to chase it down immediately.

He did enough to put the player off scoring in the final seconds, and that's 2pts gained as far as I'm concerned...

There shouldn’t be a debate. 
 

He tried to pass to one of our players and fucked it up and then he misjudged the flight of the ball. That’s it, two errors. Why are people trying to claim they weren’t? 
 

They weren’t one or two offs either, he’s made error after error all season and has cost us points. He’ll cost us more if he keeps playing, without the benefit of great saves in between as he doesn’t make anything other than routine saves. 
 

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33 minutes ago, MAY-Z said:

I’ve thought about this a bit more and I think Whitey and Lighty are right

 

The best thing for Baz to have done was flap at that cross, in the hope it put him off.

 

Because if the header was on target there is close to zero % chance it would’ve been saved no matter where it went or how powerfully it went there

That's a bizarre opinion. On any assessment he was trying to take the ball but missed. He either had to get the ball or stay (in a proper position, which to be fair is beyond him) but not what he did.

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32 minutes ago, Turkish said:

I’m not really sure how in any world the best thing to do is to flap at a cross in the last minute of injury time and leave a player with an open goal six yards out. 

Because it got in that player’s face. Enough to put him off what would otherwise have been a lot easier.

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4 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Which shots did he not save yesterday? 

That's not the question. Look over the season...what saves did he not make that most PL (and championship) keepers should be making? The honest answer is bloody loads. We've been treated to Shilton, Flowers, Niemi, and all sorts of decent keepers. I cannot think of one regular first team keeper in my time as a fan who's been worse than this lad. 

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4 minutes ago, egg said:

I don't believe that Willy, or probably any other keeper in a PL clubs first team squad, would have flapped at that cross like Baz. His positioning at various times was as shocking as usual as well. I also think several of Bednarek's decisions were based on his lack of faith in Baz behind him - clearances to touch were considered safer than relying on his keeper. 

He's appalling and I'd replace him with whoever out of McCarthy and Willy is doing best in training. 

At least one of which was 40 yards from goal and 10 yards in from the side line.

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1 minute ago, egg said:

That's not the question. Look over the season...what saves did he not make that post PL (and championship) keepers should be making)? The honest answer is bloody loads. We've been treated to Shilton, Flowers, Niemi, and all sorts of decent keepers. I cannot think of one regular first team keeper in my time as a fan who's been worse than this lad. 

That was my question though.

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1 minute ago, Whitey Grandad said:

At least one of which was 40 yards from goal and 10 yards in from the side line.

Yep...that's my point. The one near the end where Bednarek was on the right, he just didn't fancy passing back so put it into touch. Sure, he should have played it forward, but out of touch was deemed a better option than Baz. If he had a keeper he could have relied on, that ball would have gone backwards. 

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