Gavin Bazunu

[Crab Lungs]

6 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said:

Shocking defending from Bednarek there too. 😯

Bednarek doing Bednarek things ☹️

[saintscottofthenortham]

52 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

Bazunu is crap. Back in November I felt for him but now I just do t think he’s very good.

A good keeper might give you eight-ten points more a season.

He’s fluffed an awful lot.

and some...

[Saint86]

2 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said:

None of the insults please, sonny.

You cannot seriously expect any goalkeeper to save a shot that's low down from just over ten yards out. That shot was closer than the penalty spot. The goal is 8 yards wide. That's 24 feet wide. There's enough room for four six- foot goalkeepers to stretch out along it. Or for one goalkeeper to have twelve feet either side of him.

It didn't matter where he positioned himself Longstaff would have put the ball past him. 

Try spending some time in goal yourself and you might understand what's involved. 

Agreed generally on baz, and on there being no need for insults!

His view was partially obscured for that shot and his defence did nothing. And generally I am with you and Toussaint on baz anyway. He's not that bad a keeper and actually makes some very good saves and often gets the ball pushed away from the danger area, even when its hit straight at him - something that can't be levelled at our last few keepers, he also doesn't make major howlers like them imo. He is also atrociously defended for most of the goals we concede. Often free shots, unmarked players on the end of crosses etc.The major complaint i have about him is when he gets flustered / under pressure at the back and his quick kicking goes awry - villa being a very good example of this. But against that hes good at coming off his line and much better at coming for crosses than macca for example. He's young and will make mistakes, but he's clearly got a lot of potential. Fans are going to have to take the good with the bad because bluntly there is no one else - and we aren't losing games because of the keeper, we're losing them because JWP is our best attacking outlet.

Edited 2 February, 2023 by Saint86

[saintquin]

27 minutes ago, saintscottofthenortham said:

The shot is relatively central to the goal, but because Baz doesn't step back left when the ball was squared, he was left with a gaping whole to his right. It's bad positioning. It's not even an opinion FFS. Don't see how anyone couldn't see that.

A defender between him and the ball probably wouldn't have helped him.

He would probably got beaten at the near post with a step to his right and I wouldn't like to guess what kind of flack he would have got if that happened!

[Whitey Grandad]

38 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

Agreed generally on baz, and on there being no need for insults!

His view was partially obscured for that shot and his defence did nothing. And generally I am with you and Toussaint on baz anyway. He's not that bad a keeper and actually makes some very good saves and often gets the ball pushed away from the danger area, even when its hit straight at him - something that can't be levelled at our last few keepers, he also doesn't make major howlers like them imo. He is also atrociously defended for most of the goals we concede. Often free shots, unmarked players on the end of crosses etc.The major complaint i have about him is when he gets flustered / under pressure at the back and his quick kicking goes awry - villa being a very good example of this. But against that hes good at coming off his line and much better at coming for crosses than macca for example. He's young and will make mistakes, but he's clearly got a lot of potential. Fans are going to have to take the good with the bad because bluntly there is no one else - and we aren't losing games because of the keeper, we're losing them because JWP is our best attacking outlet.

He's young and inexperienced with all that goes with that. He has also been woefully exposed by what we call our defence.

[FarehamSaintJames]

He should’ve gone on loan to a Championship club and we should’ve been after a more established keeper.

I really want it to work for him but as things stand it just isn’t.

He should’ve been taken out the firing line after the Brighton game. I suppose McCarthy’s injury (who is just as much a liability) prevented this.

[Harry_SFC]

1 hour ago, saintscottofthenortham said:

The shot is relatively central to the goal, but because Baz doesn't step back left when the ball was squared, he was left with a gaping whole to his right. It's bad positioning. It's not even an opinion FFS. Don't see how anyone couldn't see that.

How has Bednarek managed to get out the way of that strike? Bazunu could have done better but that's terrible from Bednarek.

[Saint_clark]

Some incredible rewriting going on in here to try and defend him. No howlers? How about throwing the ball in his own net ffs. How about letting in shot after shot after shot that is within a foot either side of him. How about having the worst save percentage of any keeper in European football. 

We would be 5-10 points better off now if we had Forster, Cabellero or even McCarthy in goal, I have no doubt. 

[Weston Super Saint]

9 hours ago, Harry_SFC said:

How has Bednarek managed to get out the way of that strike? Bazunu could have done better but that's terrible from Bednarek.

Exactly!  It was harder for him to stay in the way and have the ball hit him and bounce off harmlessly, yet somehow, he STILL manages to make himself smaller than a mouse to let the ball past him.  Credit where it's due though, he did throw a leg out once the ball had gone past to at least make it look like he was trying - it's one of the things we do now that makes us difficult to score against 

[saintscottofthenortham]

Not the first time Yanny B has done that, either. He has history of turning on a shot and watching it waltz into the net. Still, I maintain there were players more culpable in that goal than he, though. Baz covering his near post for a squared ball for one, but again the chance should never have been gifted in the first place.

This goal aside, Bazunu's save to shot ratio continues to suffer bullet after bullet. At this rate, we will have to see either McCarthy or Willy chucked in. No option fills me with any confidence, but Baz will be a shell of himself if he continues to concede at this rate.

[saintscottofthenortham]

Five photos featuring keepers in the Brentford warm-up gallery from Staplewood on the OS... Four of McCarthy and one of Willy. 

[Weston Super Saint]

6 hours ago, saintscottofthenortham said:

Five photos featuring keepers in the Brentford warm-up gallery from Staplewood on the OS... Four of McCarthy and one of Willy. 

Baz is being used for shooting practice with Che - it's one of the reasons why Che always shoots directly at the 'keeper as they usually go in in practice sessions.

[saintscottofthenortham]

On 02/02/2023 at 19:57, saintscottofthenortham said:

The shot is relatively central to the goal, but because Baz doesn't step back left when the ball was squared, he was left with a gaping whole to his right. It's bad positioning. It's not even an opinion FFS. Don't see how anyone couldn't see that.

 

[Archers Road Stand]

No confidence in him saving anything. Angus Gunn had a far better start to his shite time here than Bazunu. 

[saintscottofthenortham]

13 minutes ago, Archers Road Stand said:

No confidence in him saving anything. Angus Gunn had a far better start to his shite time here than Bazunu. 

Sali saved him from conceding (at least) two more certain goals, too.

[maysie]

He’s not great, but with the twat we have got in charge it doesn’t really feel fair to pick out youngsters thrown under the bus,

[Whitey Grandad]

47 minutes ago, saintscottofthenortham said:

 

What am I supposed to be seeing? The obvious thing to me is the two unmarked Brentford players on the edge of the goal area. I presume that the ball has been squared from the left?

Edited 4 February, 2023 by Whitey Grandad

[egg]

1 minute ago, Whitey Grandad said:

What am I supposed to be seeing? The obvious thing to me is the two unmarked Brentford players on the edge of the goal area. I presume that the ball has been squared from the left?

I see Bazunu all the way over near his right hand post leaving the whole goal open. Shocking position. 

[Saint_clark]

I notice that Brentford only had four shots on target today and having watched the highlights I see Salisu stopped a shot on the line. 

So Bazunu made 0 saves today. 

[saintscottofthenortham]

6 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

What am I supposed to be seeing? The obvious thing to me is the two unmarked Brentford players on the edge of the goal area. I presume that the ball has been squared from the left?

Is Bazunu your son?

[Whitey Grandad]

10 hours ago, egg said:

I see Bazunu all the way over near his right hand post leaving the whole goal open. Shocking position. 

That's because it's a still photo.

[egg]

Just now, Whitey Grandad said:

That's because it's a still photo.

Eh?!? It's a photo of where he was. That was the wrong place. I've read your various posts on this and it's fair to say you're out on a limb mate. He has been at fault for many goals against this season, that is undeniable. 

[Whitey Grandad]

9 hours ago, saintscottofthenortham said:

Is Bazunu your son?

Don't be silly.

You could put the best goalkeepers in the world in that position but when your defence let's the opposition line up on the edge of the goal area they can pick their spot.

That still photo was obviously chosen because it makes him look put of position. Which is somewhat childish. Context is everything.

Concentrate on the non- existent defence in front of him before you go spending tens of millions on a replacement. He's not the best but he hasn't got a vhance when they're having time and space at point blank range.

[FarehamSaintJames]

I don't particularly blame Bazunu for anything yesterday.

Yes, he's been poor all season albeit a few excellent saves but we're bottom for a reason. He should've been dropped a while back and given time to breathe again; bring McCarthy (reluctantly) back into the fold.

Having Jan Bednarek and Lyanco isn't going to help him keep goals out.

Pinning anything on Bazunu yesterday is unfair, two were very good headers and the other one - it's very easy to make it look like his fault with a still picture.

[Whitey Grandad]

2 minutes ago, egg said:

Eh?!? It's a photo of where he was. That was the wrong place. I've read your various posts on this and it's fair to say you're out on a limb mate. He has been at fault for many goals against this season, that is undeniable. 

You have a personal hate campaign against him. I get that. But it is also undeniable that he wasn't at his near post without good reason. Any chance we can see a video of the ten seconds before that goal?

[saintscottofthenortham]

3 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

That's because it's a still photo.

You’re completely and utterly deluded when it comes to this lad, Grandad.
 

His positioning for the Newcastle goal I posted was bad. This one… Unbelievable. I don’t think you’d find another example like it.

From taking the position when they came down his right (overcovered, taking one step too many), to the ball being squared and dispatched, he didn’t move his feet once. He has ended up diving for the ball almost (if not) PAST his post. I swear every other Premier League keeper will watch that and wince. 

[egg]

Just now, Whitey Grandad said:

You have a personal hate campaign against him. I get that. But it is also undeniable that he wasn't at his near post without good reason. Any chance we can see a video of the ten seconds before that goal?

Ha!! I don't at all, and I thought you were better than nonsense comments like that. I think he's a talented kid who's been thrown in before he's ready. 

[saintscottofthenortham]

3 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Don't be silly.

You could put the best goalkeepers in the world in that position but when your defence let's the opposition line up on the edge of the goal area they can pick their spot.

That still photo was obviously chosen because it makes him look put of position. Which is somewhat childish. Context is everything.

Concentrate on the non- existent defence in front of him before you go spending tens of millions on a replacement. He's not the best but he hasn't got a vhance when they're having time and space at point blank range.

It doesn’t make him look out of position. He WAS out of position after the ball had been struck. The timing of the still was to show where he was when the shot was taken. He has done this numerous times before, hence why I made a point of it at SJP.

I’m not scapegoating him. We had no hope yesterday with De Gea in sticks. But, his positioning is awful. 

[saintscottofthenortham]

3 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

You have a personal hate campaign against him. I get that. But it is also undeniable that he wasn't at his near post without good reason. Any chance we can see a video of the ten seconds before that goal?

Keepers are meant to position themselves with the ball. As the ball moves, so does the keeper with side steps. Baz doesn’t do this very often and when he does, he does it too late.

He conceded three yesterday and Sali stopped two certs that had beaten him. He made no saves. You’re fighting a losing battle here.

Again, I’ve nothing against the lad. He is too young to be chucked in. I’m just highlighting an almighty flaw in his game, that everyone we play will be targeting… because it will not go unnoticed.

[sydney_saint]

I think he has to be dropped for a while for his sake. I don't feel he was at fault for the goals yesterday, but also it's clear he is struggling. Usually when a team is at the bottom, fans tend to overexaggerate the quality of the keeper as they are facing alot more shots, and therefore far more chances to make saves. Yet despite all the shots we have faced and goals conceded, I can't really remember thinking after the game "Thank fuck we had Bazunu in goal". I'd say his best performance this season was probably a 7/10, and he's had far more below 5. I don't think any of our keepers are suddenly going to be great, but at least the two older ones might be able to calm the defence more and organise them. 

[MAY-Z]

11 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said:

You have a personal hate campaign against him. I get that. But it is also undeniable that he wasn't at his near post without good reason. Any chance we can see a video of the ten seconds before that goal?

I just went back and watched it, the problem is before the ball was squared back by the Brentford player, he wasnt by his near post, he was past the near post, so when he went to move back across his goal line when the ball was squared, he only got himself in line with the post (as shown the still above) so his positioning was so out of whack to start with he gave himself no chance on the cut back.

 

I keep my view that there are so many shots (not form the weekend) that he should be between a 20%-50% chance of saving, so not expected to save, but he should get some of them, but he gets none of them

Edited 5 February, 2023 by MAY-Z

[nta786]

Nottingham Forest had a good goalkeeper in Dean Henderson yet still went and got Keylor Navas on loan.

Feel like we missed a trick there, his wages alone if we survive would have been worth it.

[saintscottofthenortham]

2 hours ago, MAY-Z said:

I just went back and watched it, the problem is before the ball was squared back by the Brentford player, he wasnt by his near post, he was past the near post, so when he went to move back across his goal line when the ball was squared, he only got himself in line with the post (as shown the still above) so his positioning was so out of whack to start with he gave himself no chance on the cut back.

 

I keep my view that there are so many shots (not form the weekend) that he should be between a 20%-50% chance of saving, so not expected to save, but he should get some of them, but he gets none of them

I advise you turn to your nearest brick wall and explain the above to it. The wall will be more engaging to logic.

[Saint_clark]

The other problem with that goal is when the ball is squared he pivots in place and then dives across goal when the shot is played. He doesn't actually move as the ball is squared at all.

[saintscottofthenortham]

8 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

The other problem with that goal is when the ball is squared he pivots in place and then dives across goal when the shot is played. He doesn't actually move as the ball is squared at all.

Aye that's what I'm getting at. He done the same at Newcastle and has gotten away with a few too. It is a real big problem, as that should've been drilled into him a long time ago. Something that, by now, should come naturally. Maybe a confidence thing, but it is alarming.

[The Cat]

8 hours ago, nta786 said:

Nottingham Forest had a good goalkeeper in Dean Henderson yet still went and got Keylor Navas on loan.

Feel like we missed a trick there, his wages alone if we survive would have been worth it.

Henderson is injured. 

[Saint Garrett]

3 minutes ago, The Cat said:

Henderson is injured. 

Only for a couple of weeks 

[Weston Super Saint]

2 hours ago, saintscottofthenortham said:

Aye that's what I'm getting at. He done the same at Newcastle and has gotten away with a few too. It is a real big problem, as that should've been drilled into him a long time ago. Something that, by now, should come naturally. Maybe a confidence thing, but it is alarming.

So our coaches aren't up to scratch?  

[saintscottofthenortham]

5 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

So our coaches aren't up to scratch?  

No idea. Andrew Sparkes has been in the building for a good few years now and we've hardly been blessed... But I've never watched him work so how could I comment? Fraser could never master claiming a ball into his box or punching a ball clear rather than catching it, either. Keepers have habits... Maybe this is his.

My comment was more about in his youth, so as now it would come naturally.

[Whitey Grandad]

On 05/02/2023 at 09:52, saintscottofthenortham said:

Keepers are meant to position themselves with the ball. As the ball moves, so does the keeper with side steps. Baz doesn’t do this very often and when he does, he does it too late.

He conceded three yesterday and Sali stopped two certs that had beaten him. He made no saves. You’re fighting a losing battle here.

Again, I’ve nothing against the lad. He is too young to be chucked in. I’m just highlighting an almighty flaw in his game, that everyone we play will be targeting… because it will not go unnoticed.

And of course you would have saved every one of these shots when you were a goalkeeper.

As a former goalkeeper it is only natural that you will concentrate on this one but you dismiss the feeble defending that takes place in front of him. It would not have made a blind bit of difference where he was stood for that goal because the other side had players running right up to our goal box and they could have taken their pick of any part of the goal to score. Your argument seems to be that if only he were standing in the right position then he could save more shots yet what you fail to take into consideration is that these shots don't just come at him at random. These pesky opposition players have a nasty habit of putting their shots where he is not standing. Something that doesn't seem to apply to our own forwards though.

Taken in isolation saying that a goalkeeper had no saves to make would indicate a good defensive performance. If you are being honest with yourself you will admit that he had no chance with any of those three goals.

What I hate to see are these 'fake views' that you go out of your way to post. You are being disingenuous. I have not seen one unbiased comment to the effect that he was at fault with the three goals on Saturday.

He is not a great goalkeeper, we can all see that, but to blame him for all our problems is blinkered in the extreme. Look at the team defensive performance instead.

[Lord Duckhunter]

2 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said:

but to blame him for all our problems is blinkered in the extreme. 

Nobody is blaming him for all our problems, not one person. Pony post. 

[saintscottofthenortham]

2 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said:

And of course you would have saved every one of these shots when you were a goalkeeper.

As a former goalkeeper it is only natural that you will concentrate on this one but you dismiss the feeble defending that takes place in front of him. It would not have made a blind bit of difference where he was stood for that goal because the other side had players running right up to our goal box and they could have taken their pick of any part of the goal to score. Your argument seems to be that if only he were standing in the right position then he could save more shots yet what you fail to take into consideration is that these shots don't just come at him at random. These pesky opposition players have a nasty habit of putting their shots where he is not standing. Something that doesn't seem to apply to our own forwards though.

Taken in isolation saying that a goalkeeper had no saves to make would indicate a good defensive performance. If you are being honest with yourself you will admit that he had no chance with any of those three goals.

What I hate to see are these 'fake views' that you go out of your way to post. You are being disingenuous. I have not seen one unbiased comment to the effect that he was at fault with the three goals on Saturday.

He is not a great goalkeeper, we can all see that, but to blame him for all our problems is blinkered in the extreme. Look at the team defensive performance instead.

You’re making yourself sound right stupid here. “Fake views”? 😂

I am not blaming him for results. I am pointing out that his positioning is consistently bad and that is the single most fundamental attribute in a GK, and likely the reason he is rock bottom, by a long margin, of any Keeper in Europe.

His defence hasn’t been great, no. But he isn’t giving himself much chance at present. Especially so because he hasn’t got the fastest of reactions either.

I’ve no agenda against him. My only problem with him is with those who decided to hedge our bets on a 19 year old out of League One.

[Master Bates]

Chelsea? 🤣

https://www.thechelseachronicle.com/transfer-news/report-chelsea-want-to-sign-20-year-old-premier-league-player-who-has-played-every-minute-this-season/

[Pamplemousse]

If we can make a profit on him, sell sell sell

[Southner]

Confidence breeds confidence. If we were to start banging in many a super goal, and the pressure was lifted a little, maybe it would help.

Willy playing the next handful of games might stop Baz's confidence taking further bashing. Being dropped could also dent his confidence however.

I have said 'confidence' many times.

[Baird of the land]

3 hours ago, Master Bates said:

Chelsea? 🤣

https://www.thechelseachronicle.com/transfer-news/report-chelsea-want-to-sign-20-year-old-premier-league-player-who-has-played-every-minute-this-season/

They are probably thinking it worked for Arsenal, signing the young relegated keeper. So let’s try it.

[saintscottofthenortham]

Wouldn't particularly want to see us offload the lad. I'd sooner we bring in a more experienced keeper, send Baz out on loan for a few years and bring him back into the fold then. He definitely needs more experience, but he will certainly be prem standard in a few year. We've just chucked him in the deep end before he can swim, in my opinion.

[Weston Super Saint]

6 hours ago, saintscottofthenortham said:

Wouldn't particularly want to see us offload the lad. I'd sooner we bring in a more experienced keeper, send Baz out on loan for a few years and bring him back into the fold then. He definitely needs more experience, but he will certainly be prem standard in a few year. We've just chucked him in the deep end before he can swim, in my opinion.

How does that work?  You've spent the last week telling everyone that he hasn't even grasped the basics of positioning that kids learn at the age of 7, but somehow this will suddenly all click and he'll be a top 'keeper.

[saintscottofthenortham]

56 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

How does that work?  You've spent the last week telling everyone that he hasn't even grasped the basics of positioning that kids learn at the age of 7, but somehow this will suddenly all click and he'll be a top 'keeper.

His positioning is awful and it's really letting him down. But... He's 20 year old mate. Not many keepers are playing No.1 in Prem and representing their country at his age. As I've said further back, his bad positioning could well be down to just a complete lack of confidence. Worth remembering he has been playing in a constantly changing back-line, too. If we could settle (and keep fit) a CB pairing it would do him the world of good.

I'm not saying he will be top of the pile, but lads his age are usually plying their trade in League One or League Two.

Kasper Schmeichel was playing League Two with Bury at this age.

Aaron Ramsdale was at Chesterfield, in League Two.

Emilio Martinez was at Oxford, in League Two.

Nick Pope could barely catch a game for Welling United in the Conference South.

We've made an almighty big ask of Bazunu. Long before we should even consider him ready. In time, he'll be a very good keeper. But we're years off of that.

[Whitey Grandad]

Agreed. Thrown in too soon and not what we needed for this season. 
 

“Good decisions come from experience. Experience comes from making bad decisions.”

— Mark Twain