Gurj Posted 31 May, 2022 Posted 31 May, 2022 Saints starting off at 4/1 at this time. Summer activities will see that change one way or another. https://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/relegation
Bad Wolf Posted 31 May, 2022 Posted 31 May, 2022 Haven't we been 'relegated next season' for a decade now? 6
Toadhall Saint Posted 31 May, 2022 Posted 31 May, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said: Haven't we been 'relegated next season' for a decade now? Yep 1
Mowgli Posted 31 May, 2022 Posted 31 May, 2022 It seems Bournemouth, Leeds and Fulham are the bookies favourites.
notnowcato Posted 31 May, 2022 Posted 31 May, 2022 55 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said: Haven't we been 'relegated next season' for a decade now? We've been at evens or less in previous pre-seasons?? Doubt it.
Matthew Le God Posted 31 May, 2022 Posted 31 May, 2022 Transfer window opens on 10th June 2022, it is pointless looking at odds before the majority of transfers have been announced. The Saints squad will look very different come the end of the window.
Toussaint Posted 31 May, 2022 Posted 31 May, 2022 15 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Transfer window opens on 10th June 2022, it is pointless looking at odds before the majority of transfers have been announced. The Saints squad will look very different come the end of the window. True, maybe odds on by the end of the window 2
Matthew Le God Posted 31 May, 2022 Posted 31 May, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Toussaint said: True, maybe odds on by the end of the window Cheer up Grumpy! Edited 31 May, 2022 by Matthew Le God 1
Toussaint Posted 31 May, 2022 Posted 31 May, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Cheer up Grumpy! I'm was only playing devil's advocate, feeling totally on the fence at the moment. Edited 31 May, 2022 by Toussaint
nta786 Posted 31 May, 2022 Posted 31 May, 2022 1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said: Transfer window opens on 10th June 2022, it is pointless looking at odds before the majority of transfers have been announced. The Saints squad will look very different come the end of the window. Let’s just shut down the forum then!
The Left Back Posted 31 May, 2022 Posted 31 May, 2022 1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said: Transfer window opens on 10th June 2022, it is pointless looking at odds before the majority of transfers have been announced. The Saints squad will look very different come the end of the window. You see I don't think it is pointless. At the moment we are priced to finish, on average among the bookies, 15th. So this is a whole industry of football watchers, heavily invested financially but without an axe to grind, estimating we will finish 15th. Firstly it's a good objective antidote to those on either extreme of this forum (we're doomed, or top 10 here we come). Secondly I like to see how this moves over the course of the transfer window. In the absence of any actual matches, this is one of the few gauges we have for what sort of a squad we are perceived to have, relative to our competitors. Having a pre-window snapshot of bookies' thinking gives us a base for what happens next. And thirdly; there are some bargains to be had if you want to take on the bookies - some of these clubs will do considerably better than these odds and some considerably worse. (If pushed I'd take a punt on Leicester at 20-1 with Betway right now) 3
trousers Posted 31 May, 2022 Posted 31 May, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Gurj said: Saints starting off at 4/1 at this time. Summer activities will see that change one way or another. https://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/relegation Any news on the odds of Glasgow Rangers winning the Scottish Premiership next season? #textbook Edited 31 May, 2022 by trousers
Saint Garrett Posted 31 May, 2022 Posted 31 May, 2022 3 hours ago, Gurj said: Saints starting off at 4/1 at this time. Summer activities will see that change one way or another. https://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/relegation Surprised we're 6th favourite, I'd have probably had put us in front of Brentford and Leeds. No value in 4/1 though.
Lighthouse Posted 31 May, 2022 Posted 31 May, 2022 10 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said: Surprised we're 6th favourite, I'd have probably had put us in front of Brentford and Leeds. No value in 4/1 though. Brentford would have gone down without Eriksen, Leeds just barely scraped survival. I can see why they’d be more likely favourites. 1
Saint Garrett Posted 31 May, 2022 Posted 31 May, 2022 7 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: Brentford would have gone down without Eriksen, Leeds just barely scraped survival. I can see why they’d be more likely favourites. IMO, Brentford are a decent side, made better by Eriksen. Who knows what next year holds but they don’t look likely to go down right now. Leeds had a lot of injuries. If they can get them all back fit, then they’ll finish above us IMO. But then I am in a very negative mindset when it comes to saints atm! 3
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 31 May, 2022 Posted 31 May, 2022 19 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said: IMO, Brentford are a decent side, made better by Eriksen. Who knows what next year holds but they don’t look likely to go down right now. Leeds had a lot of injuries. If they can get them all back fit, then they’ll finish above us IMO. But then I am in a very negative mindset when it comes to saints atm! Eriksen was definitely the difference for them. They looked very ordinary when we beat them at St Mary's. You could tell the effect he had on them in the return game at their place. They will be doing very well to keep hold of him. 1
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 31 May, 2022 Posted 31 May, 2022 Checks bookies figure at least 3 are more likely... Yup. Will check again at the start of the season.
cloggy saint Posted 31 May, 2022 Posted 31 May, 2022 When was the last time all 3 promoted clubs went down? Might be worth a flutter.
Bad Wolf Posted 31 May, 2022 Posted 31 May, 2022 1 hour ago, cloggy saint said: When was the last time all 3 promoted clubs went down? Might be worth a flutter. I actually think it happened fairly recently didn't it? Within the last 5 years or so? Always libel to have when you have these yoyo clubs.
whelk Posted 31 May, 2022 Posted 31 May, 2022 41 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said: I actually think it happened fairly recently didn't it? Within the last 5 years or so? Always libel to have when you have these yoyo clubs. I’d rather be a yoyo club than one continuously struggling - El Condor Pasa 1 1
Bad Wolf Posted 31 May, 2022 Posted 31 May, 2022 30 minutes ago, whelk said: I’d rather be a yoyo club than one continuously struggling - El Condor Pasa I wouldn't. Give me midtable security any day. 2
Ted Bates Statue Posted 31 May, 2022 Posted 31 May, 2022 6 hours ago, Winnersaint said: We were relegated before the last season began. We've been relegated before the season started almost every year since returning to the Prem. And yet here we go again. We must get promoted an awful lot, but you never hear about those.
skintsaint Posted 1 June, 2022 Posted 1 June, 2022 Best waiting for the peak of our annual good form, then placing the bet before the huge depressing slide back down the table.
Dusic Posted 1 June, 2022 Posted 1 June, 2022 (edited) I think its just a fair reflection of the fact the league is strong. Of course the three promoted teams will start as favourites and as unknown quantities but aside from those the only teams we finished above last season are Everton whose squad massively underperformed and Leeds who have already bought a player for £30m this summer. Personally I find it extremely unlikely that the following will be relegated: West Ham, Wolves, Leicester, Newcastle, Villa That leaves: Brighton, Palace and Brentford who all had good seasons and will be confident with further additions that they won't be involved at the bottom. Summary: its entirely fair and IMO we are probably 5th favourites for the drop behind the promoted sides and possibly Brentford. We really need all the promoted teams to struggle because its hard to see any of the others getting less than 35 points. Having Burnley and Huddersfield in there next season would have been much better! Edited 1 June, 2022 by Dusic 2
Singapore Saint Posted 1 June, 2022 Posted 1 June, 2022 18 hours ago, Mowgli said: It seems Bournemouth, Leeds and Fulham are the bookies favourites. Forest are too good to go down? 1
Singapore Saint Posted 1 June, 2022 Posted 1 June, 2022 14 hours ago, Saint Garrett said: IMO, Brentford are a decent side, made better by Eriksen. Who knows what next year holds but they don’t look likely to go down right now. Leeds had a lot of injuries. If they can get them all back fit, then they’ll finish above us IMO. But then I am in a very negative mindset when it comes to saints atm! I'm in a very negative mindset when Ralph is our manager, irrespective of coaching personnel!
david in sweden Posted 1 June, 2022 Posted 1 June, 2022 18 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: Transfer window opens on 10th June 2022, it is pointless looking at odds before the majority of transfers have been announced. The Saints squad will look very different come the end of the window. Hopefully ! 1
Whitey Grandad Posted 1 June, 2022 Posted 1 June, 2022 2 hours ago, Singapore Saint said: Forest are too good to go down? Their best players seem to be loan players. 1
Mowgli Posted 1 June, 2022 Posted 1 June, 2022 8 hours ago, Singapore Saint said: Forest are too good to go down? I think so. They've waited a long time to get back and will probably see a significant investment over the summer. It's their second season up that they need to be careful.
OldNick Posted 1 June, 2022 Posted 1 June, 2022 6 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said: Their best players seem to be loan players. exactly. I doubt Spence or Garner will be there next season.
teamsaint Posted 22 July, 2022 Posted 22 July, 2022 Just had a look at oddschecker and we are generally 6 th favourite to go down, which surprises me. The bookies are more confident in us than I am at this stage ! Best long shot for the drop looks to be BHA at 8 or 9/1, Surprised to see Wolves at 4 and 5/1 in some places.
Eric The Red Posted 22 July, 2022 Posted 22 July, 2022 3 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Think the Lampard and Silva odds could look generous come mid Septemner
S-Clarke Posted 22 July, 2022 Posted 22 July, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Eric The Red said: Think the Lampard and Silva odds could look generous come mid Septemner I think the Lampard odds are generous, he didn't really pull up any trees with Everton last season and they edged over the line through Richarlisons goals - who has now left. They've got a lot of work to do if they are to be competitive in my opinion. A bit of a mish mash of a team. Get money on Marcsh as well, I don't rate him. He irritates me, he's a bit like Ted Lasso. But I don't think he really pulled up any tree's at Leeds either, they literally scraped through and they've lost their 2 best players since. Edited 22 July, 2022 by S-Clarke 1
Danbert Posted 22 July, 2022 Posted 22 July, 2022 Leicester are 16/1 to go down - seems a very good price to me. Am I missing something?
beatlesaint Posted 22 July, 2022 Posted 22 July, 2022 Worth a few quid on Lampard. Once the penny drops with the scousers that he isn’t very good they will turn in an instant.
Dark Munster Posted 22 July, 2022 Posted 22 July, 2022 59 minutes ago, Danbert said: Leicester are 16/1 to go down - seems a very good price to me. Am I missing something? 5000/1 to win the league a few years back was better!
Charlie Wayman Posted 22 July, 2022 Posted 22 July, 2022 2 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said: That's encouraging, they've sussed out what we already knew that changing all the players and all the coaching staff will not reverse our atrocious form at the end of last season 1 1 1
The Kraken Posted 22 July, 2022 Posted 22 July, 2022 1 hour ago, beatlesaint said: Worth a few quid on Lampard. Once the penny drops with the scousers that he isn’t very good they will turn in an instant. Yeah I can’t see him lasting long. He’s not very good and he seems like a divisive character, constantly throws his players under the bus. Lose some form and he’ll likely lose the dressing room.
woodsaint1 Posted 22 July, 2022 Posted 22 July, 2022 3 hours ago, Charlie Wayman said: That's encouraging, they've sussed out what we already knew that changing all the players and all the coaching staff will not reverse our atrocious form at the end of last season Thats the spirit 😒 1
Saint_clark Posted 23 July, 2022 Posted 23 July, 2022 On 01/06/2022 at 04:45, skintsaint said: Best waiting for the peak of our annual good form, then placing the bet before the huge depressing slide back down the table. Indeed. Means you can get a half decent cash out.
notnowcato Posted 23 July, 2022 Posted 23 July, 2022 15 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said: How often does a premier league manager have less than a year left on his contract? If we’re on a cold streak at the start of the season the 9/2 could look good value.
Matthew Le God Posted 23 July, 2022 Posted 23 July, 2022 1 minute ago, notnowcato said: How often does a premier league manager have less than a year left on his contract? If we’re on a cold streak at the start of the season the 9/2 could look good value. Hasenhüttl has 2 years left on his contract. 1
Mr X Posted 23 July, 2022 Posted 23 July, 2022 14 hours ago, beatlesaint said: Worth a few quid on Lampard. Once the penny drops with the scousers that he isn’t very good they will turn in an instant. Not necessarily, ask yourself has the penny dropped with our fans that RH isn't very good? 1 1
AlexLaw76 Posted 23 July, 2022 Posted 23 July, 2022 31 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Hasenhüttl has 2 years left on his contract. https://www.eurosport.co.uk/football/ralph-hasenhuttl-plans-to-retire-when-southampton-manager-deal-ends-in-2024_sto8767978/story.shtml 1
skintsaint Posted 23 July, 2022 Posted 23 July, 2022 18 hours ago, S-Clarke said: Get money on Marcsh as well, I don't rate him I don't either but checked and 15 points from 12 games isn't relegation form. And they missed Bamford for a lot of those games I think.
S-Clarke Posted 23 July, 2022 Posted 23 July, 2022 5 minutes ago, skintsaint said: I don't either but checked and 15 points from 12 games isn't relegation form. And they missed Bamford for a lot of those games I think. Wouldn't have said he'd done that well, somewhat surprising. I guess some of that may be a 'bounce' effect, but hard to say. I dunno, I just have a feeling that he will crash and burn and his americanisms will begin to irritate all.
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