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10 minutes ago, SNSUN said:

Nuno Espírito Santo seeing as we’d only bring a manager in who isn’t employed elsewhere. Apparently he lacks man management skills but that might be a good thing with our lot. They need a good bollocking not a cuddle.

Ralph is a disciplinarian

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4 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

I doubt it would be any of these and may be a more up and coming manager from Europe, but these are all out of a job...

Nuno Espirito Santo

Lucien Favre

Paulo Fonseca

André Villas-Boas

Ernesto Valverde

Throw Hasenhuttl's reported £6m of £7m per year and a PL job at them and their agent and you might tempt them.

I wonder if we'd be interested in Bo Svennson at Mainz...

https://theanalyst.com/eu/2022/01/bo-svensson-gatecrashing-the-bundesliga/

Lazy Danish connection with Rasmus Ankerson.

Interesting names, but couple of random thoughts:

Nuno - think his success at Wolves was partly the agent connection which worked well for him

Favre - 65 later this year

Fonseca - has been linked with just about every EPL vacancy, but constantly overlooked. Wonder why. But it might mean he'd loook to grasp the opportunity with us if offered it.

AVB - isn't there a lot of 'baggage' from his previous jobs in England.

Svennson, one good season (same can be said for Cooper who some have mentioned, and at a lower level).

As you say, probably none of those. 

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1 hour ago, Lighthouse said:

9, which is exactly 9 games more than he's played for us and enough for Brentford to score 19 points.

So what you’re saying is he’s pretty fucking good when he’s got some half decent players to work with? 
 

Sounds good to me, let’s bring him in. 

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3 minutes ago, RedArmy said:

So what you’re saying is he’s pretty fucking good when he’s got some half decent players to work with? 
 

Sounds good to me, let’s bring him in. 

So which half decent* player would he be working with here?

 

*For half decent read 'world class'.

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Just now, Lighthouse said:

So which half decent player would he be working with here?

Shane Long, Jack Stephens, Alex McCarthy etc 

Are you trying to make out we don’t have ANY good players? 
We’ve got players capable of putting in top performances, one of the problems we have* is the manager cannot find a system to sustain that over a long enough period of time. 
 

*apart from not having enough, particularly depth. 

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4 minutes ago, Teddeer said:

Sign him up. He sounds like everything Ralph is not

Looks like the Danish  Dyche..................ps whats everyone's thinking that Dyche would play anything like attractive football that we would like to see? Whoever or whenever we get a new manager ,hes still going to inherit the same bland squad. Just saying.

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5 minutes ago, Roo1976 said:

Looks like the Danish  Dyche..................ps whats everyone's thinking that Dyche would play anything like attractive football that we would like to see? Whoever or whenever we get a new manager ,hes still going to inherit the same bland squad. Just saying.

At this point in time attractive football is on the 'nice to have' list not the 'must have' list imo.

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18 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

So which half decent* player would he be working with here?

 

*For half decent read 'world class'.

What's your angle here? Are you saying Ralph should stay in position? 

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24 minutes ago, egg said:

What's your angle here? Are you saying Ralph should stay in position? 

Frank is rubbish. Brentford are only 12th in their first season in the Premier League because they signed Premier League quality players. 

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37 minutes ago, Roo1976 said:

Looks like the Danish  Dyche..................ps whats everyone's thinking that Dyche would play anything like attractive football that we would like to see? Whoever or whenever we get a new manager ,hes still going to inherit the same bland squad. Just saying.

Who cares about attractive football?? It's a results based industry.

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36 minutes ago, egg said:

What's your angle here? Are you saying Ralph should stay in position? 

Yes. After the disastrous spending of Les and Ross four-five years ago and with an owner unwilling to put his hand is his pocket at all, I expected nothing other than relegation fights over the last four seasons. Ralph has exceeded my expectations, I honestly thought we'd go down at some point and we haven't.

If there's a manager, willing to come here, who can get this squad into the top half without spending any money, then great, get him in. However I doubt such a person exists.

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59 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Yes. After the disastrous spending of Les and Ross four-five years ago and with an owner unwilling to put his hand is his pocket at all, I expected nothing other than relegation fights over the last four seasons. Ralph has exceeded my expectations, I honestly thought we'd go down at some point and we haven't.

If there's a manager, willing to come here, who can get this squad into the top half without spending any money, then great, get him in. However I doubt such a person exists.

Thanks for clarifying, but that surprises me. We were doing well, but then fell off a cliff. I'm struggling to understand how that's a spending issue rather than management/coaching. 

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The names on here is exactly why I am reluctant to join Ralph out camp. Realistically, our net spend over his tenure has us down at Watford, Burnley and Norwich levels. Clubs that have spent far more than us are either below us or around us in the table and only a few points better off. Objectively, we have achieved what we needed to which was to stay up and have a bit of a go at the cup. Alot of the people who said they couldn't care less whether we finished 9th or 16th suddenly really care...

After the Pellegrino and Hughes period, it's pretty obvious that a change of manager could see us plummet. It could also see us play better, which is why this is tricky. For me though, unless there is a clear stand out candidate, it would be stupid to get rid of him. We have barely spent any cash, yet have never been in serious danger of going down. Until we spend more, our objective each season is to stay up and until that is under serious jeopardy I think he should probably stay (unless like I said there is a serious attainable name). 

IF I were gonna throw a name into the mix, it would be Ange Postecoglou. Plays the way we want to play, very attacking. Has totally rebuilt Celtic in a single season and done it playing scintillating football. 

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43 minutes ago, sydney_saint said:

The names on here is exactly why I am reluctant to join Ralph out camp. Realistically, our net spend over his tenure has us down at Watford, Burnley and Norwich levels. Clubs that have spent far more than us are either below us or around us in the table and only a few points better off. Objectively, we have achieved what we needed to which was to stay up and have a bit of a go at the cup. Alot of the people who said they couldn't care less whether we finished 9th or 16th suddenly really care...

After the Pellegrino and Hughes period, it's pretty obvious that a change of manager could see us plummet. It could also see us play better, which is why this is tricky. For me though, unless there is a clear stand out candidate, it would be stupid to get rid of him. We have barely spent any cash, yet have never been in serious danger of going down. Until we spend more, our objective each season is to stay up and until that is under serious jeopardy I think he should probably stay (unless like I said there is a serious attainable name). 

IF I were gonna throw a name into the mix, it would be Ange Postecoglou. Plays the way we want to play, very attacking. Has totally rebuilt Celtic in a single season and done it playing scintillating football. 

And always keep a-hold of Nurse
For fear of finding something worse.”

 


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42 minutes ago, sydney_saint said:

The names on here is exactly why I am reluctant to join Ralph out camp. Realistically, our net spend over his tenure has us down at Watford, Burnley and Norwich levels. Clubs that have spent far more than us are either below us or around us in the table and only a few points better off. Objectively, we have achieved what we needed to which was to stay up and have a bit of a go at the cup. Alot of the people who said they couldn't care less whether we finished 9th or 16th suddenly really care...

After the Pellegrino and Hughes period, it's pretty obvious that a change of manager could see us plummet. It could also see us play better, which is why this is tricky. For me though, unless there is a clear stand out candidate, it would be stupid to get rid of him. We have barely spent any cash, yet have never been in serious danger of going down. Until we spend more, our objective each season is to stay up and until that is under serious jeopardy I think he should probably stay (unless like I said there is a serious attainable name). 

IF I were gonna throw a name into the mix, it would be Ange Postecoglou. Plays the way we want to play, very attacking. Has totally rebuilt Celtic in a single season and done it playing scintillating football. 

Yep Ange would be my pick my pick, was brilliant in the a-league with both Brisbane (who have hardly won a game in the 12 or so years since he left), Melbourne victory, was good with Socceroos and again they have hardly won since he left

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11 hours ago, Bad Wolf said:

Who cares about attractive football?? It's a results based industry.

Indeed it is. But as we are never going to get a result (win the league) and our best hope is midtable with the odd foray into Europe, the only thing Saints fans are paying their season ticket money for is commitment and entertaining football. 

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No use getting in a new manager, without their being a major overhaul of the squad at the same time.

We’ve got bang average GK’s, a defence like a sieve, absolutely no creativity in attacking midfield and forwards that couldn’t finish their dinner.

We could bring in a Dyche and we’d probably look more solid at the back, but we’ll still be crap going forwards. We could get an attacking manager and score loads of goals, but we’ll still concede a shed load the other end. 

I’m in the Ralph out camp as I think we need a change overall, things are just very stale. But I can’t see anything changing with our league position/ambitions if there’s no major squad overhaul. 

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12 hours ago, Bad Wolf said:

Who cares about attractive football?? It's a results based industry.

We need someone proven at this level. Been there and done it on a tight budget who can sort us out defensively. 
 

Personally I only see one man for for the job…. Puel

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1 minute ago, Pamplemousse said:

Puel would be an amazing appointment for us. We should never have sacked him.

Puel as manager would be a sure-fire way of driving down season ticket sales I'm afraid. Leicester fans thought the same about him as the majority of Saints fans. Not the answer for me.

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3 minutes ago, Chez said:

If it was a choice between new manager and £0m spent this summer or keep Ralph and £12m spent this summer, I assume you would all go for the new manager option?

If we're that skint then we are relegated in both scenarios.

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2 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

If we're that skint then we are relegated in both scenarios.

We are not that skint. I guess what I was trying to say was, is a new manager worth more than £12m of new talent? Which is basically one player for us.

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12 minutes ago, Chez said:

We are not that skint. I guess what I was trying to say was, is a new manager worth more than £12m of new talent? Which is basically one player for us.

A more realistic question is to assume JWP goes and we get £70m to spend.

I'm not sure it that the person we want to spend that is Ralph.

It's a borderline decision because I think we are probably bottom 6 again next season regardless. The squad is shit.

All I know now is if we are in the relegation zone this time next year, i won't think for one second that 'if only we'd kept Ralph we'd be so much better off".

Especially as that team this time next year will be Ralph's anyway (remember the first two and a half years of RH's his defenders consistently said that Ralph was working with Puel/Pellegrino/Hughes team, so any successor should expect the exact same latitude.)

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22 minutes ago, Chez said:

We are not that skint. I guess what I was trying to say was, is a new manager worth more than £12m of new talent? Which is basically one player for us.

 

Yes a new manager is worth way more than 12 mil of new talent, a 12 mil player is a championship player these days, AA was more

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https://www.foxestalk.co.uk/topic/129155-are-you-rodgers-in-or-rodgers-out/

Over 80% of LCFC fans on this poll want Brendan out.

Would anyone else take Brendan were he to be fired? Do we still hate him for those words aimed at us all so long ago?

Would he even accept us or are we too small a job for him (though I'm sure we can offer £7m plus)

I wonder whether Leicester fans have got ahead of themselves and believe they should be pushing for Europa every season. 

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8 minutes ago, nta786 said:

https://www.foxestalk.co.uk/topic/129155-are-you-rodgers-in-or-rodgers-out/

Over 80% of LCFC fans on this poll want Brendan out.

Would anyone else take Brendan were he to be fired? Do we still hate him for those words aimed at us all so long ago?

Would he even accept us or are we too small a job for him (though I'm sure we can offer £7m plus)

I wonder whether Leicester fans have got ahead of themselves and believe they should be pushing for Europa every season. 

Yes he’s a very good manager. Would snap him up but we wouldn’t have a chance 

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5 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Emma Hayes.  Something wrong with the club if she is not within the top 3 candidates

Hope Powell mate

woman

black

Lesbian  

if she brings along a disabled and vegan coach we’d be the most progressive club in the world 

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32 minutes ago, nta786 said:

https://www.foxestalk.co.uk/topic/129155-are-you-rodgers-in-or-rodgers-out/

Over 80% of LCFC fans on this poll want Brendan out.

Would anyone else take Brendan were he to be fired? Do we still hate him for those words aimed at us all so long ago?

Would he even accept us or are we too small a job for him (though I'm sure we can offer £7m plus)

I wonder whether Leicester fans have got ahead of themselves and believe they should be pushing for Europa every season. 

Think they've been copyting some of our threads:

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First time I’ve thought time is up. Feels like the end of Puel’s reign - inevitable.

 

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41 minutes ago, nta786 said:

I wonder whether Leicester fans have got ahead of themselves and believe they should be pushing for Europa every season. 

they are a more successful us...but despite them being great for a few years now, did anyone really expect it to last for ever? I always thought they were going to return back to the pack eventually.

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45 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Yes he’s a very good manager. Would snap him up but we wouldn’t have a chance 

Schmeichel, Tielemans, Vardy, Maddison, Ndidi, KDH, Soyuncu and Daka are two points above us in the table and you’d take their manager?

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5 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Schmeichel, Tielemans, Vardy, Maddison, Ndidi, KDH, Soyuncu and Daka are two points above us in the table and you’d take their manager?

Aye, horrific injuries this season on the back of winning a major trophy.

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11 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Schmeichel, Tielemans, Vardy, Maddison, Ndidi, KDH, Soyuncu and Daka are two points above us in the table and you’d take their manager?

Lots of injuries, run to the semi final In Europe, won the FA cup. Yeah he’s shit 🙄

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