saint1977 Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 (edited) Time to do it - Thank you Ralph and you’ve managed under some very tough circumstances but this latest run cannot be excused by injuries or squad depth, he’s frustrated and the players have totally lost any sense of guidance under him. This thread is only for suggestions on names for the new manager. There’s already a thread about Ralph and the discussion can carry on there about whether he should go, although it would take complacency and laziness of Les Reed proportions not to act after this latest non performance. Players are limited but clearly not lifting a leg for him. Who should the caretaker be for Leicester and Liverpool? Bounce might see cause an upset at Leicester and still need a point at least from somewhere. Some experienced managers available - Benitez etc, and I’d overlook the Everton experience, that would have been like Lawrie at Fratton, never going to work. Knows the league and can seal up the back and midfield. Contacts to get some quality loans to help with the total squad rebuild. If Forest don’t win the play offs, Steve Cooper my top choice. Knows how to manage a younger squad and Forest were on a horrible run and reverse momentum when he joined, he could revive SFC. He might want to stay at a big club and get them automatic next year though with full houses at the City Ground. Edited 7 May, 2022 by saint1977 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 I could genuinely give Dyche a go. Make us defend ugly and hard to beat. We need to build from the back. Think he has a point to prove with more resources/better players (if the new owners truly back us in the window). 3 7 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 I think that any new manager would have to work largely with what we already have, don't think that the new owners will be 'investing' much into this team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedArmy Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 Thomas Frank 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, RedArmy said: Thomas Frank Could be worth a try. Saints can offer bigger personnel wages, a bigger wage budget for players and hopefully a bigger transfer budget than he has at Brentford. Plus there is the Rasmus Ankersen connection.... Edited 7 May, 2022 by Matthew Le God 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 7 minutes ago, Wiggles31 said: I could genuinely give Dyche a go. Make us defend ugly and hard to beat. We need to build from the back. Think he has a point to prove with more resources/better players (if the new owners truly back us in the window). Absolutely terrible idea on a par with appointing Mark Hughes. No thanks. 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 Steve Cooper. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 7 May, 2022 Author Share Posted 7 May, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Wiggles31 said: I could genuinely give Dyche a go. Make us defend ugly and hard to beat. We need to build from the back. Think he has a point to prove with more resources/better players (if the new owners truly back us in the window). He’s a free agent which the club tend to like. Jokanovic probably another option although that’s maybe a lazy suggestion by me given our owner is also Serbian. Why didn’t Favre join Palace in the end? Leeds’ manager Jesse Marsch was the sort of appointment I could have seen the club going for otherwise, a pragmatic and younger Ralph. Rudi Garcia will probably come up again but that would have been post Ronald if at all. Can’t see him dropping to join Saints. Edited 7 May, 2022 by saint1977 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 4 minutes ago, RedArmy said: Thomas Frank The man who was level on points with us this morning, with a squad containing Eriksen and Toney? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 Just now, hypochondriac said: Absolutely terrible idea on a par with appointing Mark Hughes. No thanks. Hughes is a football dinosaur... Dyche isn't currently one. But may end up one in about 5- 10 years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekelund Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 Koeman, get it done. Oxford st would be pleased 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 Just now, Lighthouse said: The man who was level on points with us this morning, with a squad containing Eriksen and Toney? With a newly promoted team, on a smaller wage and transfer budget. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekelund Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 Scratch that. Incoming Holland manager post wc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedArmy Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 5 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: The man who was level on points with us this morning, with a squad containing Eriksen and Toney? How many games has Eriksen played? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Could be worth a try. Saints can offer bigger personnel wages, a bigger wage budget for players and hopefully a bigger transfer budget than he has at Brentford. Plus there is the Rasmus Ankersen connection.... Brentford will have a bigger transfer budget than us this summer, they have a lot more saleable assets than us. Edited 7 May, 2022 by Saint_clark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: 1) Brentford will have a bigger transfer budget than us this summer, 2) they have a lot more saleable assets than us. 1) That judgement can't really be made given the lack of indication as to what Sport Republic will do 2) I very much doubt that to be true Edited 7 May, 2022 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 17 minutes ago, RedArmy said: Thomas Frank Been my favourite for a very long time. including his tenure in the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 Nobody realistically available would excite me tbh. I think we should have gone for Gerrard and as much as I like Thomas Frank, he's actually doing a worse job at Brentford than Paul Jewell did with Wigan in their first season up. Not saying he's worse than Jewell but I haven't seen enough of him to make me desperate to bring him in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanlee Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 Unlikely now but maybe if Newcastle decide to going higher profile than Eddie Howe? Or take a chance on a Gary Rowett or similar. Preferably a manager who can combine good defending and going forward in a positive way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddeer Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 Bring back Poch 🙂 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 Bearing in mind Sports Republic we’re watching us for a while and the way they operate I would suspect they have someone lined up. I think a few underestimate the way they operate. I can’t see them fucking around all summer. If Ralph goes they will move quickly. a good time to get another manager in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 Steve Cooper 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 26 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Absolutely terrible idea on a par with appointing Mark Hughes. No thanks. I mean I laughed when West Ham gave Moyes the job and look at them. Same ilk of manager as Dyche. Can’t say I’d desperately want to employ a manager such as Dyche. I’m just so sick of being rolled over so easily most weeks. Defensively we’ve been shocking ever since Fonte left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 Just now, Wade Garrett said: Steve Cooper Would possibly require him failing in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 (edited) I guess as he’s been allowed to do media they won’t sack him tonight. But they should have done ages ago. Edited 7 May, 2022 by DT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 I don't suppose there's any chance of getting Giovanni van Bronckhorst? He might fancy managing in the Premier League, although he'd probably choose a bigger club than Saints. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 46 minutes ago, RedArmy said: How many games has Eriksen played? 9, which is exactly 9 games more than he's played for us and enough for Brentford to score 19 points. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 11 minutes ago, Nordic Saint said: I don't suppose there's any chance of getting Giovanni van Bronckhorst? He might fancy managing in the Premier League, although he'd probably choose a bigger club than Saints. The Ross Wilson connection! 🙂 As Sports Republic seem to like The Southampton Way (such as it is recently) New person has to transition young talent at the end of their academy time at other clubs into our senior squad - Livramento. Young talent not at the stage of breaking into the first team at larger clubs - KWP & Broja. Nab top young talent before it goes off to the Bundesliga, a la Sancho/ Bellingham. Look at using our own Academy to highlight The Pathway to potential recruits from other clubs. - Looking at your Balllards and Diblings it seems, as not too many others breaking through. Possibly employ an analytics involved style of play involving automisms etc. working hand in hand with/ taking advantage of the criteria used in recruiting players that may be off other players radar. Probably on a restricted budget, and looking to sell on the top talent for a profit, although some of that will be invested back into the squad to develop strength and quality of the next sales. If we manage a player clear out in the summer, the wage bill will be lowered significantly. But I'd not expect us to be buying in proven Premier League players on similar wagers to replace any of them. So if not Frank, it could be the latest off the German coaching conveyor belt. Although they were getting so young, we may aslo be hiring their mum who pushes their pram. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 53 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: With a newly promoted team, on a smaller wage and transfer budget. So Bednarek, Armstrong, Moi, Walcott, Long and Djenepo are better players because they've been in this league longer and we pay them more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 Not saying Dyche would be my preference but wouldn't be howling in outrage at the notion given how soft saints currently are. In the championship Cooper looks good(if Forest stay down). Wilder is also a decent manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 He does need to go now. I suspect that the owners/board have someone lined up and likely someone most of us have never heard of. Probably from a lesser league but one who is proving his worth and has skills within development. But I feel we need someone who is a big more match savvy than just a developer. Anyway, change now and give then a few weeks longer to get ready for next season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/trainer/verfuegbaretrainer/statistik Lots of options here. I reckon Nuno could be a good fit, might have some good contacts, though club may not like his links to Mendes given we pay some of the lowest agent fees in the Prem. Also as a PL club I see no reason why we couldn’t pay enough to entice Rudi Garcia or a Favre in the £8m region. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 1 hour ago, Wiggles31 said: I could genuinely give Dyche a go. Make us defend ugly and hard to beat. We need to build from the back. Think he has a point to prove with more resources/better players (if the new owners truly back us in the window). 21st Century Branfoot. No, thanks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 17 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: So Bednarek, Armstrong, Moi, Walcott, Long and Djenepo are better players because they've been in this league longer and we pay them more? So are you now saying Hasenhuttl doesn't have as good tools to work with compared to Frank? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 I really don’t care any more. I’m already on the beach. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 2 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: So are you now saying Hasenhuttl doesn't have as good tools to work with compared to Frank? He has a world class creative player and a reliable enough, double figures goal getter. We have nothing remotely close to either, so yes, I am saying that. Unless you believe our top class defenders and ‘keeper should supersede those players, relative to Brentford? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 24 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: So Bednarek, Armstrong, Moi, Walcott, Long and Djenepo are better players because they've been in this league longer and we pay them more? Let's see how Brentford do next season. They might get found out in their second season just like Leeds, Sheffield United and many others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: He has a world class creative player and a reliable enough, double figures goal getter. We have nothing remotely close to either, so yes, I am saying that. Unless you believe our top class defenders and ‘keeper should supersede those players, relative to Brentford? You’re only saying that because Thomas Frank’s made Eriksen and Toney look good. At this moment in time I don’t think Eriksen would look creative, and Toney wouldn’t look a “reliable double figures goal getter” if both were under Ralph. I struggle to think where Eriksen would fit in with Ralph’s 4222. Edited 7 May, 2022 by nta786 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said: 1) That judgement can't really be made given the lack of indication as to what Sport Republic will do Haven't they made it pretty clear that there won't be extra money to spend, just a bit of extra liquidity to allow us to buy earlier? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecurnew02 Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 13 minutes ago, nta786 said: https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/trainer/verfuegbaretrainer/statistik Lots of options here. I reckon Nuno could be a good fit, might have some good contacts, though club may not like his links to Mendes given we pay some of the lowest agent fees in the Prem. Also as a PL club I see no reason why we couldn’t pay enough to entice Rudi Garcia or a Favre in the £8m region. André Villas-Boas would be great pickup from a tactical standpoint but he had a weird ending with Marseille so maybe not 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 2 minutes ago, Ex Lion Tamer said: Haven't they made it pretty clear that there won't be extra money to spend, just a bit of extra liquidity to allow us to buy earlier? I don't believe they've worded it like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 7 minutes ago, Ex Lion Tamer said: Let's see how Brentford do next season. They might get found out in their second season just like Leeds, Sheffield United and many others You’re right, that could well happen. So why would you want to swap that manager for one who has avoided relegation for four consecutive years? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy the Kidd Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 20 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said: I really don’t care any more. I’m already on the beach. Put a towel down for me please. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 1 hour ago, RedArmy said: Thomas Frank Has been mentioned on here regularly, St Lard especially has been a key supporter. I say the same thing every time though that part of his success has been the recruitment at Brentford and I'd rather we try and attract that or emulate their success. 19 minutes ago, nta786 said: https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/trainer/verfuegbaretrainer/statistik Lots of options here. I reckon Nuno could be a good fit, might have some good contacts, though club may not like his links to Mendes given we pay some of the lowest agent fees in the Prem. Also as a PL club I see no reason why we couldn’t pay enough to entice Rudi Garcia or a Favre in the £8m region. Nuno - I think his success at Wolves was largely down to the relationship the club had with the agent, and though he might struggle without it. Can't read too much into his time at Spurs though. Didn't Garcia turn us down before ? Think it was at the time Puel was appointed. 1 hour ago, manji said: Bearing in mind Sports Republic we’re watching us for a while and the way they operate I would suspect they have someone lined up. I think a few underestimate the way they operate. I can’t see them fucking around all summer. If Ralph goes they will move quickly. a good time to get another manager in. we've no idea how they will operate, time to find out I suppose. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Saints Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 Ange Postecoglu or Steve Cooper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 1 hour ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: So if not Frank, it could be the latest off the German coaching conveyor belt. Any names ? One name on another thread, Bo Svennson , at Mainz. Danish incidentally. Questionable though if we are a good career move. Without some £ to spend we're not such an attractive proposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 Knew very little about Steve Cooper. Has quite a list of coaching jobs . His method of coaching is quite radical and he seems to fit in with our philosophy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 5 minutes ago, Badger said: Any names ? One name on another thread, Bo Svennson , at Mainz. Danish incidentally. Questionable though if we are a good career move. Without some £ to spend we're not such an attractive proposition. An interesting read... https://theanalyst.com/eu/2022/01/bo-svensson-gatecrashing-the-bundesliga/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 Nuno Espírito Santo seeing as we’d only bring a manager in who isn’t employed elsewhere. Apparently he lacks man management skills but that might be a good thing with our lot. They need a good bollocking not a cuddle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 I doubt it would be any of these and may be a more up and coming manager from Europe, but these are all out of a job... Nuno Espirito Santo Lucien Favre Paulo Fonseca André Villas-Boas Ernesto Valverde Throw Hasenhuttl's reported £6m of £7m per year and a PL job at them and their agent and you might tempt them. I wonder if we'd be interested in Bo Svennson at Mainz... https://theanalyst.com/eu/2022/01/bo-svensson-gatecrashing-the-bundesliga/ Lazy Danish connection with Rasmus Ankerson. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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