SNSUN Posted 5 May, 2022 Share Posted 5 May, 2022 13 minutes ago, OldNick said: Is it national smart arse day? I like it though 😀 In before MLG! 🤪 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancouver Saint Posted 6 May, 2022 Share Posted 6 May, 2022 (edited) Well I'm glad someone asked the relegation question - wouldn't classify myself as a bed-wetter - possibly the odd 'accident' which is becoming more frequent with our atrocious form. The betting shops are generally pretty good at this. The odds on us being relegated are shortening from rank 500-1 outsiders to 200-1 to now 66-1...if we do lose to Brentford tomorrow, which current form suggests is more likely than not...then with Leeds and Everton not playing until Sunday....and if Burnley beat Villa at home (again form would say probable)...I wonder what our odds will be? Of course I'm praying we turn up tomorrow and play a blinder and repeat the 4-1 thrashing we gave them at home - but with the emotion taken out of it the possibility of us losing and the threat of relegation drawing even closer is real. Ralph spouting on today about a top 10 finish makes me even more worried about his connection with reality. We all know if there's any team that could claim a record for turning longest odds ever against relegation into reality - it's us. Hope to goodness we turn up tomorrow and win...at least draw. Enough bedsheet laundering already. Edited 6 May, 2022 by Vancouver Saint 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 Sad times when I found myself peering at goal difference just now… 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 23 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Sad times when I found myself peering at goal difference just now… Everton will better ours if they get the wins, but I can't see that happening. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 We are now down to 66-1 to be relegated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 Burnley, Everton and Leeds fixture list will keep us up Because ours won't! 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 Just saw Chelsea fell apart again. Not exactly heartering given we may need them to save our bacon by beating Leeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloggy saint Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 7 minutes ago, Baird of the land said: Just saw Chelsea fell apart again. Not exactly heartering given we may need them to save our bacon by beating Leeds. Leeds are no Wolves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddeer Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 2 hours ago, SuperSAINT said: Sad times when I found myself peering at goal difference just now… No point looking at goal difference until we see how many Liverpool tonk us by 🙂 If they're in the mood there could be another minus 10 to factor in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 7 May, 2022 Share Posted 7 May, 2022 19 minutes ago, cloggy saint said: Leeds are no Wolves. Are Everton or Brentford a Wolves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 8 May, 2022 Share Posted 8 May, 2022 Can’t see us getting any more points this season so we’re stuck on 40. The teams below us have games in hand. I would class the risk of relegation as modest but significant enough to be a little concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 8 May, 2022 Share Posted 8 May, 2022 Just now, adrian lord said: Can’t see us getting any more points this season so we’re stuck on 40. Spurs just made the Liverpool game a whole lot easier. They could be 6 points behind city by that night, and played in the cup final a few days before. With the league most probably gone I can see a few changes to their line up that night. It’ll still be tough, but not as tough. I can see us nicking a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 8 May, 2022 Share Posted 8 May, 2022 16 hours ago, Baird of the land said: Just saw Chelsea fell apart again. Not exactly heartering given we may need them to save our bacon by beating Leeds. Everyone always predicts that results at this time are all about how much you have to play for. Burnley had so much more at stake than Villa. Not as simple as this shit side want to win more than that good side who don’t need to so shit side guaranteed to win. There is a reason why they are down the bottom. Although agree Chelsea look shite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 8 May, 2022 Share Posted 8 May, 2022 Leeds will prevent Saints going down. If they lose today, they will need 7 points from Chelsea, Brighton and Brentford to overtake Saints current total and GD advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmysaint7 Posted 8 May, 2022 Share Posted 8 May, 2022 3 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Leeds will prevent Saints going down. If they lose today, they will need 7 points from Chelsea, Brighton and Brentford to overtake Saints current total and GD advantage. Nothing to do with the 40 points we have?? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Uwe Posted 8 May, 2022 Share Posted 8 May, 2022 18 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Leeds will prevent Saints going down. If they lose today, they will need 7 points from Chelsea, Brighton and Brentford to overtake Saints current total and GD advantage. Agree we are closing in on that scenario now. Still too early to rule it out mathematically, but assuming they lose against Arsenal, they would have to pull something special out of their last 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 8 May, 2022 Share Posted 8 May, 2022 19 minutes ago, jimmysaint7 said: Nothing to do with the 40 points we have?? I didn't say it wasn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 8 May, 2022 Share Posted 8 May, 2022 If Leeds lose against Chelsea we are safe but if we take our current form into next season it will spell disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca155 Posted 8 May, 2022 Share Posted 8 May, 2022 Ask Northampton fans about improbable events! We are the most likely to survive which is reassuring but way too close for comfort. Should have targeted 2 points minimum from Brentford and Palace Get over the line and then worry about next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 8 May, 2022 Share Posted 8 May, 2022 9 minutes ago, spyinthesky said: If Leeds lose against Chelsea we are safe but if we take our current form into next season it will spell disaster. We said the same last season, and lost Ings/Vestegaard/Bertrand to boot. I agree though, next season will be different to this with the WC in November, although finding someone to gel in with the non-internationals might be perfect during that month if Ralph is given the summer and can't stop the rut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Uwe Posted 8 May, 2022 Share Posted 8 May, 2022 So still lots of possible outcomes, but the main thing is Burnley and Leeds lost! I don't think any of us expect Saints to get anything against Liverpool. Should that be the case, Burnley would have to get 3 points from their next two games, and Leeds would need 4 points from their next two games to take it to the final day. If either fail, we are safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 8 May, 2022 Share Posted 8 May, 2022 We're now down to 60-1. If we ship a lot of goals against Liverpool some will be getting a bit nervous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 8 May, 2022 Share Posted 8 May, 2022 2 minutes ago, DT said: We're now down to 60-1. If we ship a lot of goals against Liverpool some will be getting a bit nervous A Chelsea win vs Leeds makes the Liverpool game irrelevant really in terms of us going down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 8 May, 2022 Share Posted 8 May, 2022 10 minutes ago, DT said: We're now down to 60-1. If we ship a lot of goals against Liverpool some will be getting a bit nervous 100-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint1 Posted 8 May, 2022 Share Posted 8 May, 2022 8 hours ago, whelk said: Everyone always predicts that results at this time are all about how much you have to play for. Burnley had so much more at stake than Villa. Not as simple as this shit side want to win more than that good side who don’t need to so shit side guaranteed to win. There is a reason why they are down the bottom. Although agree Chelsea look shite One plus about this shite Chelsea form is that it has pulled them back into the top 4 race. About a month or so ago they were coasting to 3rd. The Leeds game has now become a must win for them to solidify that top 4. It could have been a dead rubber, although they do have the FA Cup a few days after Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom & Gerry Posted 8 May, 2022 Share Posted 8 May, 2022 3 hours ago, spyinthesky said: If Leeds lose against Chelsea we are safe but if we take our current form into next season it will spell disaster. Yes, but what if they win. I feel slightly less worried than last weekend, but only slightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 8 May, 2022 Share Posted 8 May, 2022 (edited) Cannot see Burnley getting 6 points and can see them getting stuffed by Spurs. Leeds beating Chelsea will help, but depends on which Chelsea turn up, but they are in terrible form since smashing us. Everton will or have a great chance be above us by the time we play Liverpool. IF and it is a very big if, but of course possible no matter how unlikely, Burnley get 3 points (we have to hope that Spurs stick a few in) and Leeds manage to get 4 or 6 points, It will go to the last round of games. But hopefully we will see a Chelsea win and then Spurs smashing Burnley, and Brighton get a draw or a win at Leeds. If we go down it will be to a freak set our results, but also we have to take a very good hard look at ourselves as we look to regroup to return. Edited 8 May, 2022 by Dr Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 8 May, 2022 Share Posted 8 May, 2022 2 hours ago, Tom & Gerry said: Yes, but what if they win. I feel slightly less worried than last weekend, but only slightly. Then Burnley go down. They are not all going to get 40. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted 8 May, 2022 Share Posted 8 May, 2022 If Saints had managed to hold on and scrape a draw at home to Palace then Leeds would now need 3 wins out of 3 to overtake us. That's unless there's not a crazy GD turnaround of course. As it is Leeds still need 2 wins and a draw - not impossible but imagine the despair if that's what Saints had needed. If Saints are still in any danger by the time Liverpool roll up at St Mary's it'll then be time to cover the mattress with a plastic sheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Saints Posted 8 May, 2022 Share Posted 8 May, 2022 Shows how shit we are that Everton will likely now finish above us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 8 May, 2022 Share Posted 8 May, 2022 6 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: A Chelsea win vs Leeds makes the Liverpool game irrelevant really in terms of us going down. No it doesn’t 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint1 Posted 8 May, 2022 Share Posted 8 May, 2022 Beginning to think Burnley could be favourites to go down again. Away to Spurs and Villa (who just chinned them) and Newcastle last game will be no gimme. After Chelsea, Leeds last two are Brighton and Brentford. Can see them picking up a win between those two which might just be enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 9 May, 2022 Share Posted 9 May, 2022 1 hour ago, Turkish said: No it doesn’t It would leave Leeds six points behind us with two games left - and a worse goal difference by more than fifteen. We'd be safe all bar the shouting. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 9 May, 2022 Share Posted 9 May, 2022 Listened to a lot of Radio 5 over the weekend. It was reassuring that nobody ever mentioned us being a contender for relegation .... Or is it??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 9 May, 2022 Share Posted 9 May, 2022 7 hours ago, qwertyell said: It would leave Leeds six points behind us with two games left - and a worse goal difference by more than fifteen. We'd be safe all bar the shouting. Yes but possible. You don’t think Liverpool are capable of handing us a thrashing, meanwhile leeds win both their games by 2 or 3, suddenly that 15 goal difference because a lot smaller, would you fancy us needing to get something at Leicester given how shit and fragile we are at the moment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunglasses Ron Posted 9 May, 2022 Share Posted 9 May, 2022 I think we need something like 8 of 12 games left involving us, Everton, Burnley and Leeds to go against us for us to go down. Massively unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 9 May, 2022 Share Posted 9 May, 2022 Leeds and Burnley losing this weekend has given us some breathing space. But what an absolutely shitshow the end of the season has been. Newcastle and Everton likely to now finish above us, and probably we'll finish 17th. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom & Gerry Posted 9 May, 2022 Share Posted 9 May, 2022 16 hours ago, CB Fry said: Then Burnley go down. They are not all going to get 40. Of course Burnley couldn't possibly win 3 matches in a row could they? Oh I forgot, they only need to win 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 9 May, 2022 Share Posted 9 May, 2022 6 hours ago, Turkish said: Yes but possible. You don’t think Liverpool are capable of handing us a thrashing, meanwhile leeds win both their games by 2 or 3, suddenly that 15 goal difference because a lot smaller, would you fancy us needing to get something at Leicester given how shit and fragile we are at the moment? In that scenario, they will have lost to Chelsea so their goal difference to us will be at least minus 16 if not worse. They have won by more than one goal twice in 2022. 3-1 against Burnley and 3-0 against Norwich (at the time positioned 19th and 20th). And they're finishing the season against solid, in form Brighton (h) and Brentford (a). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 9 May, 2022 Share Posted 9 May, 2022 6 hours ago, Saint Garrett said: Leeds and Burnley losing this weekend has given us some breathing space. But what an absolutely shitshow the end of the season has been. Newcastle and Everton likely to now finish above us, and probably we'll finish 17th. For us to be even talking about relegation after looking so comfortable in February time is a testament to how bad things have got. Pretty miserable when you consider we could finish below Everton, who when we beat them at St Marys were the worse side I'd seen us play all season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midfield_General Posted 9 May, 2022 Share Posted 9 May, 2022 7 hours ago, Turkish said: Yes but possible. You don’t think Liverpool are capable of handing us a thrashing, meanwhile leeds win both their games by 2 or 3, suddenly that 15 goal difference because a lot smaller, would you fancy us needing to get something at Leicester given how shit and fragile we are at the moment? Oh come on, it's not like Leicester would ever give us a thrashing by an implausible number 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 9 May, 2022 Share Posted 9 May, 2022 2 hours ago, Tom & Gerry said: Of course Burnley couldn't possibly win 3 matches in a row could they? Oh I forgot, they only need to win 2. Wah wah wah wah everyone else is going to win win win win win win. I can absolutely guarantee you were sat there thinking Burnley and Leeds were both going to win over the weekend. And of course they did. Oh I forgot, they both shat the bed. If we swapped places with Burnley or Leeds tomorrow there's no way on earth you would be predicting for us the kind of blistering form that you are projecting on them. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom & Gerry Posted 9 May, 2022 Share Posted 9 May, 2022 10 minutes ago, CB Fry said: Wah wah wah wah everyone else is going to win win win win win win. I can absolutely guarantee you were sat there thinking Burnley and Leeds were both going to win over the weekend. And of course they did. Oh I forgot, they both shat the bed. If we swapped places with Burnley or Leeds tomorrow there's no way on earth you would be predicting for us the kind of blistering form that you are projecting on them. Thats why I said I'm slightly more optimistic, but it is not unknown for teams desperate to stay in the Premier league to produce blistering form. The odds might be against it but it's a possibility and will remain a cause for concern until it isn't, when we can all breathe a sigh of relief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 9 May, 2022 Share Posted 9 May, 2022 3 hours ago, Tom & Gerry said: Of course Burnley couldn't possibly win 3 matches in a row could they? Oh I forgot, they only need to win 2. If Burnley stay up, then Leeds or Everton go down. We're not finishing below those 3. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 9 May, 2022 Share Posted 9 May, 2022 9 hours ago, Sunglasses Ron said: I think we need something like 8 of 12 games left involving us, Everton, Burnley and Leeds to go against us for us to go down. Massively unlikely. Clearly you've never done an accumulator. I've had 60%+ of a betslip go against me more than I've had it go for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 9 May, 2022 Share Posted 9 May, 2022 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Tom & Gerry said: Thats why I said I'm slightly more optimistic, but it is not unknown for teams desperate to stay in the Premier league to produce blistering form. The odds might be against it but it's a possibility and will remain a cause for concern until it isn't, when we can all breathe a sigh of relief. Except never all of them like you think is going to happen. All the teams below us winning all the freaking time. It will be interesting next year if it is us in 18th place with 3 games to go next season. Because we can all rely on you to build up everyone's confidence by predicting that we will win every game just like you have with Burnley and Leeds this year. Because you definitely will do that won't you? Edited 9 May, 2022 by CB Fry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 9 May, 2022 Share Posted 9 May, 2022 Tell you what if there we’re a couple more rounds then there are left, we would be fucked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunglasses Ron Posted 10 May, 2022 Share Posted 10 May, 2022 (edited) 13 hours ago, Saint_clark said: Clearly you've never done an accumulator. I've had 60%+ of a betslip go against me more than I've had it go for me. Current odds of 100-1 for Saints to gown suggest it is massively unlikely though? Edited 10 May, 2022 by Sunglasses Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom & Gerry Posted 10 May, 2022 Share Posted 10 May, 2022 12 hours ago, CB Fry said: Except never all of them like you think is going to happen. All the teams below us winning all the freaking time. It will be interesting next year if it is us in 18th place with 3 games to go next season. Because we can all rely on you to build up everyone's confidence by predicting that we will win every game just like you have with Burnley and Leeds this year. Because you definitely will do that won't you? OK fine if that's what you believe great. I'm just of a more nervous disposition when it comes to following Saints and I'm sure I'm not alone. I'm not trying to boost or dent anyones confidence, just give what I see as a realistic appraisal of the situation and you don't. I wonder why if you are so confident that you choose to misrepresent what I've said. All 3 teams in question don't have to win every game. Burnley have to win 2 from 3 -do able on their recent form prior to last Saturday. Everton 2 wins from 4 or probably 5 points - very do able. Leeds 7 points from 3 - less do able, but if they were to beat Chelsea the odds would shorten and you wouldn't be getting 60/1 from the bookies on Saints staying up. For all 3 to happen would be remarkable, but remarkable things happen in sport , that's all I'm saying. Of course if Chelsea beat Leeds then the scales will be lifted from my eyes and I like you will become a believer, and I will be very happy for you to tell me, I told you so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorchester Saint Posted 10 May, 2022 Share Posted 10 May, 2022 (edited) I think the Liverpool game will be an irrelevance, I believe we’ll be safe by then after Leeds lose to Chelsea and Brighton. Edited 10 May, 2022 by Dorchester Saint 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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