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12 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

Perfect timing for a Brentford backlash. I actually worry about us losing every game for the rest of the season.

If Brentford had won or drawn at Old Trafford would you have said...?

''Perfect timing for Brentford to maintain their good form."

It can be spun any way you want!

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31 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

Perfect timing for a Brentford backlash. I actually worry about us losing every game for the rest of the season.

Perfect timing for a winning Ralphball masterclass. They'll never expect it!

I'm not sure some of us would expect it either. 🙂

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Brentford looked poor really tonight, except for Eriksen who looks a quality player again. 

Let's agree to a tactical draw , extra point each towards safety, could be arranged as our new owners have contacts there 

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8 minutes ago, JRM said:

Brentford looked poor really tonight, except for Eriksen who looks a quality player again. 

Let's agree to a tactical draw , extra point each towards safety, could be arranged as our new owners have contacts there 

Have we learned nothing from Germany vs Austria in the 1982 World Cup Finals?!

although Germany did get the win, they both went through, got what they wanted and FIFA didn't punish them...okay, bad example... 🙂

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If Adam Armstrong starts and scores, Ralph will get abuse for not playing him in our recent games.

Keeping him on the side-lines means we can only complain about his man management on how he has handled him. 

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While we have Redmond/Moi/S Armstrong/Djnepo etc etc etc as our pool to choose from as our 10's and our CBs make a mistake pretty much every game it doesnt matter what happens.

We will still rely on individual acts of brilliance or opposition mistakes as unfortunately our pattern of play isnt working.

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58 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

While we have Redmond/Moi/S Armstrong/Djnepo etc etc etc as our pool to choose from as our 10's and our CBs make a mistake pretty much every game it doesnt matter what happens.

We will still rely on individual acts of brilliance or opposition mistakes as unfortunately our pattern of play isnt working.

Isn't that true of every team? Because pretty much every goal in history either comes from crap defending or great forward play.

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1 hour ago, nta786 said:

If Adam Armstrong starts and scores, Ralph will get abuse for not playing him in our recent games.

Keeping him on the side-lines means we can only complain about his man management on how he has handled him. 

I don't get this logic.  When he has played he's looked awful. He's dont nothing to suggest he should be starting in the premier league. If he's not happy in his personal life and not settled in the area, then it would not surprise me if he's gone in the summer, and therefore, not sure there is any value in playing him anyway.

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After watching them against Manure last night I think we could steal three points. However, to do so we need to stop this pissing about crab football and attack. We have the players who are quite capable of this but it will depend entirely on what Ralph believes is the best method. After supporting Saints for well over 65 years I will not be surprised if we have yet another NAAFI performance.

PS. NAAFI. No Ambition And Fuck all Interest.

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3 hours ago, Bad Wolf said:

Isn't that true of every team? Because pretty much every goal in history either comes from crap defending or great forward play.

I'd watched the mane hatrick game before I wrote this and saw the forwards passing quickly and effectively together to give each other chances.

 

 

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Bees win this easy 2-0 .. we will stay up at the expense of Leeds and Massive changes are needed in the closed season.. hopefully a new coach and back room staff to start with and some fresh ideas and a new identity of the way we want to play.

A clear out of deadwood is needed and with some new additions in the Areas needed hopefully we can push for top half or maybe European spots if we hit the ground running with new Changes and personnel.

Thanks to Ralph for his commitment to the club but it’s time for a change and wish him all the best .

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Looking at the Guardian minute by minute on Monday night, they said that Brentford's 3 at the back made them vulnerable to attacks from the United full backs, and that everything was coming through Erickson, much as everything came through Couhtino and Mount for our two recent hidings.

So for me it has to be 

                                                    FF

               KWP  Bednarek/Lycano  Sallisu  Perraud

                                        Romeu 

                            JWP                   Diallo 

S Armstrong                                    Tella/Redmond/Djenepo   (for some pace)

                                 Broja     ( they are all shit at the moment but at least he worries defenders  )

            

That way you could always go 2 up and pay a diamond . 

 

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17 minutes ago, redkeith said:

Looking at the Guardian minute by minute on Monday night, they said that Brentford's 3 at the back made them vulnerable to attacks from the United full backs, and that everything was coming through Erickson, much as everything came through Couhtino and Mount for our two recent hidings.

So for me it has to be 

                                                    FF

               KWP  Bednarek/Lycano  Sallisu  Perraud

                                        Romeu 

                            JWP                   Diallo 

S Armstrong                                    Tella/Redmond/Djenepo   (for some pace)

                                 Broja     ( they are all shit at the moment but at least he worries defenders  )

            

That way you could always go 2 up and pay a diamond . 

 

When we played Brentford at home, we tactically matched up with them with 3 at the back, Tella was actually wing back if I remember right.

We caused them issues all evening down the wide area's and in behind, as their 3 stepped up too high on quite a few occasions. Our attack that night was just a little too quick and sharp. Diallo played more advanced and was excellent in joining it up as well. 

I reckon we might do the same again, because this game will be all about the break and exploiting their high line and full back areas. If we just piss around with the ball in front of them with no penetrative runs then it will be painful.

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5 minutes ago, saint lard said:

I’m wondering if there is any truth in that if Armstrong makes another appearance we have to shell out a wad of cash to Blackburn. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Surely we've not been stupid to agree to something like that for a player who had 12 months left on his contract?

Our pants often get pulled down when players have 12 months left, no fault of our own of course if you can't force a player to sign so we accept a lower fee, but surely we shouldn't be getting played on when we purchase a player with just 12 months left too. 

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Brentford don't have any pace in their backline, so much so they struggled to contain Juan Mata and Cristiano Ronaldo on Monday. Unfortunately, we don't have much pace either across the pitch, but could be a weakness of theirs that we look to exploit this weekend. Christian Eriksen is a class above every other Brentford player as well as any of ours and seems to have saved their season after they were tumbling down the league before his arrival. He can pull out a piece of magic from nothing, so he's the obvious danger man.

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15 hours ago, HarvSFC said:

Brentford don't have any pace in their backline, so much so they struggled to contain Juan Mata and Cristiano Ronaldo on Monday. Unfortunately, we don't have much pace either across the pitch, but could be a weakness of theirs that we look to exploit this weekend. Christian Eriksen is a class above every other Brentford player as well as any of ours and seems to have saved their season after they were tumbling down the league before his arrival. He can pull out a piece of magic from nothing, so he's the obvious danger man.

And he always takes the piss out of us whenever he plays against us

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On 04/05/2022 at 13:12, saint lard said:

I’m wondering if there is any truth in that if Armstrong makes another appearance we have to shell out a wad of cash to Blackburn. 🤷🏻‍♂️

I had assumed that he going to leave the club in the summer due to his ongoing treatment where he can't get any time on the pitch, but your suggestion could make sense. 

I still wouldn't be surprised if there is some sort of swap deal lined up for Brereton Díaz who we were linked with earlier in the season. He is close to the end of his contract, so Blackburn probably need to get rid and replace. An Armstrong return to Blackburn might work for all parties, although whether Brereton Díaz would make more of an impact in the Premiership is anyone's guess ..... 

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1 hour ago, beatlesaint said:

I see according to the local rag that Ralph says its insulting to suggest the players are already on the beach.

Only one way to prove otherwise then Ralph !!!

If it isn't that Ralph then please tell us what is behind the pathetic 5 points from the last 30 available? 

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On 04/05/2022 at 13:19, nta786 said:

Surely we've not been stupid to agree to something like that for a player who had 12 months left on his contract?

Our pants often get pulled down when players have 12 months left, no fault of our own of course if you can't force a player to sign so we accept a lower fee, but surely we shouldn't be getting played on when we purchase a player with just 12 months left too. 

If you are looking for a rod to beat the club with, maybe,  but the other way of looking at it is we were smart enough to insist on paying in instalments based on appearances, which means if the player turns out to be shit and cant get in the side, the fee paid is lower. If this is true, and I don't have a clue one  way of the other, it's possibly a  good bit of business on our part as he hasn't set the world on fire, and as a result we've not needed to pay the full fee...yet.

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4 hours ago, WALK DMC said:

I had assumed that he going to leave the club in the summer due to his ongoing treatment where he can't get any time on the pitch, but your suggestion could make sense. 

I still wouldn't be surprised if there is some sort of swap deal lined up for Brereton Díaz who we were linked with earlier in the season. He is close to the end of his contract, so Blackburn probably need to get rid and replace. An Armstrong return to Blackburn might work for all parties, although whether Brereton Díaz would make more of an impact in the Premiership is anyone's guess ..... 

Apart from the fact swaps deals hardly ever happen, Blackburn won't be taking on Armstrong's Premiership size wages. They also could do with the money a Diaz sale might bring in, so may perhaps prefer the cash from that deal and then get a much cheaper replacement than Armstrong in.

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2 hours ago, beatlesaint said:

I see according to the local rag that Ralph says its insulting to suggest the players are already on the beach.

Only one way to prove otherwise then Ralph !!!

It's insulting to the fans to play as if they were on the beach.

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44 minutes ago, Sarisbury Saint said:

16 year old Tyler Dibley has trained with the first team this week.

Yep, he's been with them all week.

Should be on the bench. All very exciting. Hope to see him come on and make his debut. 

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On 03/05/2022 at 15:13, Saint Garrett said:

I don't get this logic.  When he has played he's looked awful. He's dont nothing to suggest he should be starting in the premier league. If he's not happy in his personal life and not settled in the area, then it would not surprise me if he's gone in the summer, and therefore, not sure there is any value in playing him anyway.

I thought he looked really sharp when he came on against Newcastle.

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21 hours ago, beatlesaint said:

I see according to the local rag that Ralph says its insulting to suggest the players are already on the beach.

Only one way to prove otherwise then Ralph !!!

Last time he got on his holier than thou high horse, after the West Ham cup game, we went on yet another of our dreadful runs of form.

How about let's stop being dogshit, Ralph.

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Reading today in the local rag that Ralph is reluctant to pick AA because he's not a tall defender. Or something.

Here's an idea. When defending a set piece why not leave a pacey attacker like AA upfield in order to both keep opposition defenders occupied and to maybe open the option of having a quick attacking outlet?

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7 minutes ago, obelisk said:

Reading today in the local rag that Ralph is reluctant to pick AA because he's not a tall defender. Or something.

Here's an idea. When defending a set piece why not leave a pacey attacker like AA upfield in order to both keep opposition defenders occupied and to maybe open the option of having a quick attacking outlet?

Meanwhile on Earth-R: PSG Coach Ralph, drops Messi. "His lack of tallness in defending corners, makes him a liability. I'm baffled how he has managed to get picked for all these years," said the innovator of Ralph Ball.

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40 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

Meanwhile on Earth-R: PSG Coach Ralph, drops Messi. "His lack of tallness in defending corners, makes him a liability. I'm baffled how he has managed to get picked for all these years," said the innovator of Ralph Ball.

What about Pep and his Merry band of midgets, what is he thinking?

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1 hour ago, obelisk said:

Reading today in the local rag that Ralph is reluctant to pick AA because he's not a tall defender. Or something.

Here's an idea. When defending a set piece why not leave a pacey attacker like AA upfield in order to both keep opposition defenders occupied and to maybe open the option of having a quick attacking outlet?

If that’s the case then why did he sign him?

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3 hours ago, obelisk said:

Reading today in the local rag that Ralph is reluctant to pick AA because he's not a tall defender. Or something.

Here's an idea. When defending a set piece why not leave a pacey attacker like AA upfield in order to both keep opposition defenders occupied and to maybe open the option of having a quick attacking outlet?

He must have lied to Ralph about his height when he signed.

I really hope Ralph goes soon!

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