Saints 1-2 Palace - Match Thread

[OttawaSaint]

4 minutes ago, Henri Manie said:

Good Day,

Disgusting performance from a side that still has problems with the drop, in my 30 years of support i wonder why after i watch players like Adem Armstrong and Janice Bednareks...and the head manager, he cannot be real....he makes me angry and has no plan B for games. Please leave.

 

 

Regards

Henri Manie

This all account is about as weak and unfunny as our team right now.

[Mattster]

3 minutes ago, BotleySaint said:

Just highlights how much of a missed opportunity these past few games have been. A bit more effort and common sense from Ralph and the players and we could have finished very strongly. Instead we will be just above relegation zone, hopefully. 

It's also very tight in the middle of the table. At £2m per place, a win today would have seen us up in 10th and potentially £10m better off for the start of next season.. Disappointing.

[Toussaint]

Looking at the table and the fixtures, 40 points maybe cutting it fine this season, assuming we don’t get any more points, which is possible 

[davefizzy14]

Feeling very angry about that. We were one up against an average side and we manage to somehow lose that. Adam Armstrong should have come on instead of moving players around and changing formation. There's obvious areas where we need to strengthen in the summer. Hope the new owners can see this. 

[Lighthouse]

7 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

Come on, he picked that plank Redmond, left him on for 90 minutes, took Tella off and  and pushed Redmond  up front instead of giving AA a go. 

So your main gripe with him is that he didn’t bring on a player who has two goals this season and last scored 6 months ago?

[Pamplemousse]

1 minute ago, Toussaint said:

Looking at the table and the fixtures, 40 points maybe cutting it fine this season, assuming we don’t get any more points, which is possible 

There is zero, and I mean zero chance, that Everton will get anywhere near 40.

 

(although if they beat Chelsea tomorrow I might get a bit worried...)

[SW5 SAINT]

All those people cheering Burnley winning…..😳

[jimmysaint7]

1 minute ago, Toussaint said:

Looking at the table and the fixtures, 40 points maybe cutting it fine this season, assuming we don’t get any more points, which is possible 

Just said exactly the same.one team always drops like a stone 2nd part of season 

[Pamplemousse]

Just now, jimmysaint7 said:

Just said exactly the same.one team always drops like a stone 2nd part of season 

Yup you're right, that team is Everton

[jimmysaint7]

1 minute ago, SW5 SAINT said:

All those people cheering Burnley winning…..😳

Not understanding that myself either 

[Teddeer]

I guess, along with many others, I've reached the stage this season where I am past caring about the weak efforts of our side. We are the go-to club when opponents have a player who hasn't scored for months, a team that hasn't overturned a one nil deficit or just not won in ages - play us and all that changes. It has become too tiresome and predictable. We now find ourselves perched above just the dross as the rest have now passed us as we go into our annual slump at the end of the season. Only a few more games to suffer.

[Dr Who?]

5 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

Looking at the table and the fixtures, 40 points maybe cutting it fine this season, assuming we don’t get any more points, which is possible 

Leeds will not get 6 more points. Next 3 games, City, Chelsea and Arsenal. Make that 7 points. 

Edited 30 April, 2022 by Dr Who?

[HarvSFC]

The difference between a good squad and a bad one. Long, Redmond and Tella were performing the press well in the first half, causing the Palace defence to make loads of errors. They just don’t have the quality to extend the lead beyond the 1-0 that it was, but they did run themselves into the ground. 
 

Broja comes on, his off the ball play is shocking. On the ball, he’s obviously of a very good quality, but for his physique he never wins a header, so doesn’t give us a focus point or a target up top like Long does and he’s too slow to move on the press, allowing Palace to stroll it out of defence. Armstrong has declined massively this season. He used to be in our top three players, now he just looks well off the pace and Elyounoussi is and always will be Elyounoussi. They bring on their best player of the last how many years, who scores the winner, last years Championship young player of the year and Hughes, who is a tidy player.

And we voted for 5 subs when we aim to make a profit every summer. Palace will fill up those places with some more £15m players.

 

Edited 30 April, 2022 by HarvSFC

[Dman]

Just now, Dr Who? said:

Leeds will not get 6 more points. Next 3 games, City, Chelsea and Arsenal. 

Fuck; they could be in big trouble. 
 

Still fancy Everton to get out for some reason. Probably because they have decent players, despite the manager being crap. 

[Dr Who?]

Just now, Dman said:

Fuck; they could be in big trouble. 
 

Still fancy Everton to get out for some reason. Probably because they have decent players, despite the manager being crap. 

I think that is because it is Everton. I’m 47 and I have always known them to be in top flight. 
oh and on the Leeds points, they really need 7 points to get above us because of their goal difference. 

[Toussaint]

4 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

So your main gripe with him is that he didn’t bring on a player who has two goals this season and last scored 6 months ago?

Not my main gripe, just a gripe, one of many.So your main defence is he played Peraud and we didn’t win?  

[Ivan Katalinic's 'tache]

Abysmal, pedestrian football again. Passionless drivel from the manager down. Only one team wanted to win after half time and it wasn't us. My heart goes out to anyone who has spent money on the awards dinner and fair play if you get away from it without slapping at least one player.

[woodsaint1]

People still think we could get relegated. I know saints bring out the pessimist in us all, but thats desperate. Never mind Everton, I struggle to see Leeds getting to 40 points and even thats not enough with their GD

[obelisk]

One year our end of season slump will coincide with a poor early and mid season. I wouldn't have much faith in this lot taking on a proper relegation fight.

Ralph will have a lot of persuading to do if he wants to continue at St Mary's.

[Toussaint]

3 minutes ago, Dr Who? said:

Leeds will not get 6 more points. Next 3 games, City, Chelsea and Arsenal. Make that 7 points. 

Your probably right, I’m just a tad pissed at the mo, we were second best from about 30 minutes and didn’t react 

[Sunglasses Ron]

Don't worry everyone, a few more weeks and we can forget all about Saints and focus on something more healthy for a while!

[Mr X]

No other club would lamely accept the performances of the last ten games or so it's not just the defeats it's the manner of them, surely the owners have an ounce of ambition and have someone lined up for next season to inject a bit of hope 

[Lighthouse]

1 minute ago, Toussaint said:

Not my main gripe, just a gripe, one of many.So your main defence is he played Peraud and we didn’t win?  

No, my point was that the obvious solution of playing Perraud hasn’t improved us at all. Some people may well prefer it, I’m not saying they’re wrong, but it’s a long way from being the solution to our problems. When your attacking players are any four out of a truly hopeless bunch, playing a left footed left back isn’t going to make all that much difference.

[CB Fry]

12 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

Looking at the table and the fixtures, 40 points maybe cutting it fine this season, assuming we don’t get any more points, which is possible 

Jesus wept.

You think Everton, Leeds and Burnley - all three of them - are going to get 40 points?

[64saint]

Probably not the best day for an invitation to buy a season ticket which dropped through my letterbox this morning.   The marketing department might not be getting any sales bonuses this week.

[Lighthouse]

Just now, 64saint said:

Probably not the best day for an invitation to buy a season ticket which dropped through my letterbox this morning.   The marketing department might not be getting any sales bonuses this week.

I received that too. It did smell nice.

[redkeith]

That was a flat performance to say the least, although having said that , we were comfortable until Adams made that shit pass when a break was on to set them rolling for the equaliser.  He was poor today.

 

Other than the 2 cm s no one was above 6 out of 10 today. Bring on the end of the season , the players are already on holiday

[64saint]

Just now, Lighthouse said:

I received that too. It did smell nice.

Mines in the rubbish bin. Maybe I'll hook it out and smell it.

[Toussaint]

2 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

Jesus wept.

You think Everton, Leeds and Burnley - all three of them - are going to get 40 points?

No or yes, or I don’t know . Still crapola whichever way you look at it

[CB Fry]

4 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

No or yes, or I don’t know . Still crapola whichever way you look at it

Lucky for you, I do know.

They absolutely will not.

[ButtikonSaint]

Nearly as desperate as some seasons past with probably many more lows and meh performance especially with the squad at hand...
We need get something against Brentford 

[DT]

Just now, ButtikonSaint said:

Nearly as desperate as some seasons past with probably many more lows and meh performance especially with the squad at hand...
We need get something against Brentford 

They too have a better squad and manager. Don’t get your hopes up

[woodsaint1]

So we finished last season in 15th with 43 points. That was with a paper thin squad and having to use the kids at times - which Ralph used as an excuse. I cant see us matching that with the remaining fixtures this season. He can have no excuses as he has had a bigger squad and injuries have been favourable to us. Simply not good enough.

I've always supported Ralph even after the 9-0s and at other points when it was looking bad. I'm fed up now though

[saintscottofthenortham]

I'm actually starting to believe Ralph is a Pompey fan in disguise.

[DT]

Maybe we are not good enough, Ralph tells the press. Crikey. 

[ButtikonSaint]

2 minutes ago, DT said:

Maybe we are not good enough, Ralph tells the press. Crikey. 

Isn't it a bit too late in the season for reserve psychology from our dear RH?

[geoffnut]

Every team wants to play Saints, easy 3 points for them.

[Saint_Jonny]

14 minutes ago, woodsaint1 said:

So we finished last season in 15th with 43 points. That was with a paper thin squad and having to use the kids at times - which Ralph used as an excuse. I cant see us matching that with the remaining fixtures this season. He can have no excuses as he has had a bigger squad and injuries have been favourable to us. Simply not good enough.

I've always supported Ralph even after the 9-0s and at other points when it was looking bad. I'm fed up now though

Same. If this is what being in the premier League means season after season I've had just about enough of it. Eeking out enough points just to stay up every year is tedious fucking drivel. Every year for the last 5 I leave it to the last minute to renew my season ticket because the vast majority of trips to St Mary's are just a soul destroying waste of my time. 

Get in the fucking bin Saints. 

[derry]

That second half was garbage that's not saying that the first half was that good. We had just over 30% possession but playing it forward and attacking without a multitude of sideways and backwards five yard passes made us look reasonably solid and comfortable. After half time we reverted to our default losing system of passing slowly backwards and sideways. We gave the ball away or were caught in possession time after time. Broja pulled out and let the CP player easily pass him leading to Zaha's goal.

It was comfortable for Palace at the back and they were able to play quick balls to their forwards who caused us all sorts of problems and because of the quick balls we were regularly out of shape and overloaded as we had slowly pushed up and left acres of space clear. I would have thought Chelsea would have taught them a lesson but it obviously hasn't.

We do not have clever ball players at the back who can pass incisively, we have clodhoppers who dither and just pass without aim or meaning but purely to get rid of the hot potato to anybody. As long as we indulge in this so called suedo possession we are just going to surrender matches. The management change players but appear to have no idea that it is the way we play that is causing us to lose far too many games,

[rooney]

Apart from JWP we have nobody who can change a game and lack so much quality. Today may make him think that it really is time to go.🙁

[jabei]

Just now, rooney said:

Apart from JWP we have nobody who can change a game and lack so much quality. Today may make him think that it really is time to go.🙁

JWP isn't that player. He did it last week which magically made people forget how incredibly ordinary he is the majority of the time. 

[Daft Kerplunk]

Make no mistake, that was rubbish. It will continue. Streaky as bacon.

[S-Clarke]

Terrible, again.

We're starting Shane Long though, the lack of quality in that area is absolutely horrific. Our only decent player, who is now out of form, isn't even ours. The rest of that attack is average at absolute best, if not lower league fodder.

We need huge, huge investment in the summer to overhaul that attack. I do not want to see Long, Redmond, Moussa, Ely etc trying to pretend they can provide an attacking threat at the highest level, as it's painful to watch - honestly, it's enough to send people round the bend. Keep Tella around as squad depth, but his season has been a bit of a disaster all told (injuries haven't helped).

Bednarek for that goal was shockingly bad, but it was kind of just expected. We really need better than him if we're to do anything more than concede every single week.

So yeah, big summer ahead. We can't keep regurgitating the same trash heap players and expect different results, we need a radical overhaul.

Edited 30 April, 2022 by S-Clarke

[LGTL]

I don’t know what’s worse - that performance or people that are still worried about relegation FFS. 
 

We were pathetic today and that squad needs a massive overhaul. 

[DT]

We need to start by getting a manager who can give us some shape and make us hard to beat

[OttawaSaint]

1 minute ago, DT said:

We need to start by getting a manager who can give us some shape and make us hard to beat

I think so too. I rated RH but my patience with his obstinate way of not adapting to other team's tactics, the personnel he has, or other teams working us out.

[rooney]

5 minutes ago, jabei said:

JWP isn't that player. He did it last week which magically made people forget how incredibly ordinary he is the majority of the time. 

He is the only one that has got us out of jail in a number of games this season and that is why a number on here are voting for him as fans player of the season. Gareth Southgate has a better opinion of him than you and the vast majority of our fans.

[Mr X]

5 minutes ago, DT said:

We need to start by getting a manager who can give us some shape and make us hard to beat

We were hard to beat for a while then he returned to messing the fcuk around with the team as usual like he always does

in all his time here he hasn't a bloody clue what his best team is which is pretty much the basics! 

Edited 30 April, 2022 by Mr X

[Dr Who?]

52 minutes ago, Sunglasses Ron said:

Don't worry everyone, a few more weeks and we can forget all about Saints and focus on something more healthy for a while!

All my focus is cheering on the women’s team to promotion. As for the men well 🙄 

Hampshire are doing well 👍

[jabei]

2 minutes ago, rooney said:

He is the only one that has got us out of jail in a number of games this season and that is why a number on here are voting for him as fans player of the season. Gareth Southgate has a better opinion of him than you and the vast majority of our fans.

I don't disagree....it doesn't make him good enough for a top team though. If he starts any games at the World Cup I will gladly eat my words. I've got nothing against him I just think he's over-rated apart from taking direct free kicks