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What his country thought of Humza, even while he was standing for office.

For anyone not keeping up with McPolitics, the seemingly random policy stuff later in this clip all refer to utterly botched policies (there were many, many more)

And although there's a "made before Peter resigned" card, the fix was well and truly in by then.

Many consider the timescale of the entire contest, electing Humza, to be linked to the stage the police investigation had reached. Handy to have the Lord Advocate as a political appointee who sits on a cabinet ruthlessly controlled by a few.

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Stripey McStripe Shirt

Stripey McStripe Shirt

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I don't particularly use 'X' but the odd occasion I do look at it, I noticed Elon is increasingly fascinated by UK politics*. Seems keen to create unrest, despite the fact that he clearly has little idea about life over here. Can see the UK relationship with the US getting very rocky in the coming months/years. Also, he seems like a right dislikeable weirdo. 

 

* I should note, this is even more concerning as I'm fairly sure I don't even follow him, but his posts are always amongst the top of my feed so clearly trying to use his position to push his views on people.

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AlexLaw76

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28 minutes ago, Stripey McStripe Shirt said:

I don't particularly use 'X' but the odd occasion I do look at it, I noticed Elon is increasingly fascinated by UK politics*. Seems keen to create unrest, despite the fact that he clearly has little idea about life over here. Can see the UK relationship with the US getting very rocky in the coming months/years. Also, he seems like a right dislikeable weirdo. 

 

* I should note, this is even more concerning as I'm fairly sure I don't even follow him, but his posts are always amongst the top of my feed so clearly trying to use his position to push his views on people.

Do you think police investigating non-crimes, like they are, is appropriate…?

whelk

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28 minutes ago, Stripey McStripe Shirt said:

I don't particularly use 'X' but the odd occasion I do look at it, I noticed Elon is increasingly fascinated by UK politics*. Seems keen to create unrest, despite the fact that he clearly has little idea about life over here. Can see the UK relationship with the US getting very rocky in the coming months/years. Also, he seems like a right dislikeable weirdo. 

 

* I should note, this is even more concerning as I'm fairly sure I don't even follow him, but his posts are always amongst the top of my feed so clearly trying to use his position to push his views on people.

Yeah it’s a pile of shit these days. Used to be fun but many of the people I followed have either left or vastly reduced their content and I go on it a fraction of the time I used to which is healthy in itself. I can’t stand the freak Musk either. 

badgerx16

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2 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

It can’t be right that an a member of a governing organisation also owns a massive social media platform.

Musk will not be part of the Government, he will be heading up an advisory and research body.

Is it wrong that MPs have shares in defence, communications, construction, and utility companies that are involved in lobbying, trying to influence policy, and competing for Government contracts ?

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east-stand-nic

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On 18/11/2024 at 23:44, sadoldgit said:

It can’t be right that an a member of a governing organisation also owns a massive social media platform.

But you were fine with Twitter when they de-platformed Trump, which as it turns out was under orders from Biden and the CIA/FBI. It was used as a tool to oust Trump. Now it is open to all, you hate it all of a sudden. A bit fascist of you.

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revolution saint

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32 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said:

But you were fine with Twitter when they de-platformed Trump, which as it turns out was under orders from Biden and the CIA/FBI. It was used as a tool to oust Trump. Now it is open to all, you hate it all of a sudden. A bit fascist of you.

Care to share where you got that from?

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east-stand-nic

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1 hour ago, revolution saint said:

Care to share where you got that from?

As per Hypo posts below and if you bother to research you will find twitter execs admitted they had been ordered to do certain things by FBI etc. Now that I and others have proven this, can you answer now my original post that it was OK to de-platform one candidate and favor the other before, but now X under Musk is bias?

The fact is the lefties on here, some much more so than others (pretty obvious who) especially have very fascist views. If you disagree with them you are a bad right wing Nazi. If the person they support is de-platformed they go mad and call for freedom of speech etc. If the person that hate is de-platformed they are OK and agree with it. It is clear double standards and hypocrisy and why for a fact it is the liberals and left that are the fascists.

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revolution saint

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Just now, east-stand-nic said:

As per Hypo posts below and if you bother to research you will find twitter execs admitted they had been ordered to do certain things by FBI etc. Now that I and others have proven this, can you answer now my original post that it was OK to de-platform one candidate and favor the other before, but now X under Musk is bias?

The fact is the lefties on here, some much more so than others (pretty obvious who) especially have very fascist views. If you disagree with them you are a bad right wing Nazi. If the person they support is de-platformed they go mad and call for freedom of speech etc. If the person that hate is de-platformed they are OK and agree with it. It is clear double standards and hypocrisy and why for a fact it is the liberals and left that are the fascists.

I haven't looked at the whole of this thread so I have no idea what questions you asked or why you've directed them to me.  I saw your quote and wondered where you got it from, that's all.  

You sound a bit fucking mental though so I'll pass on a discussion if that's OK?

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badgerx16

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1 hour ago, hypochondriac said:

I expect he got it from the twitter files as reported by the guardian here:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jan/01/the-twitter-files-should-disturb-liberal-critics-of-elon-musk-and-heres-why

''Yet a 2021 study suggested the opposite. Looking at millions of tweets in seven countries – Britain, America, Canada, France, Germany, Spain and Japan – researchers found that, with the exception of Germany, Twitter algorithms amplified rightwing politicians more than the left. They also found that in America, conservative news sources were boosted more than liberal ones.''

sadoldgit

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2 hours ago, east-stand-nic said:

But you were fine with Twitter when they de-platformed Trump, which as it turns out was under orders from Biden and the CIA/FBI. It was used as a tool to oust Trump. Now it is open to all, you hate it all of a sudden. A bit fascist of you.

You do love a conspiracy theory don’t you 😂.

If you have ever read any of my posts about what I think and have thought about Twitter itis that it is mostly populated by gullible conspiracy theorist and people who are hard of thinking. I held that opinion of Twitter well before Musk took over. It is even worse now which is why millions of people are switching to other social media platforms.

You must be delighted that Musk is now not only using X to spread bolux about politics here as well as being one of  Trump’s henchmen. He clearly sees himself as a Bond villain and is lapping up the fact that the most powerful man on the planet from next January is giving him so much latitude.

Nic, if you really want people to take you seriously you should at least try and get some of your facts right, ok?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2024/aug/10/chris-riddell-on-elon-musk-as-a-bond-villain-cartoon

 

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politics/how-elon-musk-uses-his-x-social-media-platform-to-amplify-right-wing-views

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badgerx16

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52 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said:

As per Hypo posts below and if you bother to research you will find twitter execs admitted they had been ordered to do certain things by FBI etc. Now that I and others have proven this, can you answer now my original post that it was OK to de-platform one candidate and favor the other before, but now X under Musk is bias?

The fact is the lefties on here, some much more so than others (pretty obvious who) especially have very fascist views. If you disagree with them you are a bad right wing Nazi. If the person they support is de-platformed they go mad and call for freedom of speech etc. If the person that hate is de-platformed they are OK and agree with it. It is clear double standards and hypocrisy and why for a fact it is the liberals and left that are the fascists.

Nic, if I joined 'X' and my first post was ''Elon Musk is a narcissistic twat'', how long do you think my account would stay active ?

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hypochondriac

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40 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

''Yet a 2021 study suggested the opposite. Looking at millions of tweets in seven countries – Britain, America, Canada, France, Germany, Spain and Japan – researchers found that, with the exception of Germany, Twitter algorithms amplified rightwing politicians more than the left. They also found that in America, conservative news sources were boosted more than liberal ones.''

How is that relevant? 

hypochondriac

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37 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Nic, if I joined 'X' and my first post was ''Elon Musk is a narcissistic twat'', how long do you think my account would stay active ?

Is there evidence that insulting Musk on twitter isn't allowed? I've seen load of it on there. 

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east-stand-nic

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On 27/11/2024 at 19:10, revolution saint said:

I haven't looked at the whole of this thread so I have no idea what questions you asked or why you've directed them to me.  I saw your quote and wondered where you got it from, that's all.  

You sound a bit fucking mental though so I'll pass on a discussion if that's OK?

So, basically I stated a fact, that fact was proven correct and now you have no where to squirm off to, you can only call me mental. Typical of liberal lefty loons.

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east-stand-nic

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On 27/11/2024 at 20:00, sadoldgit said:

You do love a conspiracy theory don’t you 😂.

If you have ever read any of my posts about what I think and have thought about Twitter itis that it is mostly populated by gullible conspiracy theorist and people who are hard of thinking. I held that opinion of Twitter well before Musk took over. It is even worse now which is why millions of people are switching to other social media platforms.

You must be delighted that Musk is now not only using X to spread bolux about politics here as well as being one of  Trump’s henchmen. He clearly sees himself as a Bond villain and is lapping up the fact that the most powerful man on the planet from next January is giving him so much latitude.

Nic, if you really want people to take you seriously you should at least try and get some of your facts right, ok?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2024/aug/10/chris-riddell-on-elon-musk-as-a-bond-villain-cartoon

 

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politics/how-elon-musk-uses-his-x-social-media-platform-to-amplify-right-wing-views

Face facts, you loved it when Twitter banned Trump. Don't deny it. Now it is run by someone who wants freedom of speech, you lefty loons hate it again. You couldn't make this shit up. Why do you dent what you know to be true, it just makes you look more of an idiot than you already look.

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sadoldgit

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3 hours ago, east-stand-nic said:

Face facts, you loved it when Twitter banned Trump. Don't deny it. Now it is run by someone who wants freedom of speech, you lefty loons hate it again. You couldn't make this shit up. Why do you dent what you know to be true, it just makes you look more of an idiot than you already look.

You really are a card. Go find the evidence that I loved it when Twitter banned Trump. You call other people loons but you make stuff up and then rail against it. I barely looked at Twitter and even less at X so I couldn’t give a monkeys about Trump being banned. In his case it is better than his rankings do get a wide audience because more people can see how deranged he is.

For someone who says he doesn’t support Trump you spend an awful lot of time defending him. 

Calling others loony lefties does not detract from you being a blinkered conspiracy theorist nic. Little wonder that you spend so much time defending one of the worlds most prolific conspiracy theorists.

With freedom of speech comes responsibility. If you think that either Trump or Musk use freedom of speech responsibly  that also comes as no surprise.

By the way, if you don’t like being called mental perhaps it isn’t wise to call others loons.
 

 

 

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sadoldgit

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The same Nigel Farage who kicked off when some Labour MPs went over to the States to support the Democrats? Well he is bound to turn the offer down as he would not like to be seen as a hypocrite would he? I guess those who don’t have a problem with someone like Musk getting involved in world politics let alone domestic US politics and who support Farage will be delighted.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/elon-musk-nigel-farage-donald-trump-reform-uk-b1197417.html

Gloucester Saint

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6 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

Well that would be something:

Screenshot_20241201_135939_X.jpg

As inappropriate as Labour sending activists to the US Election. Although it’s the Tories it will really squeeze because the anti-Musk and hard right funding from centre right and One Nation firms will flow to Labour plus the TUs.

I’m concerned in that instance about Liberal Democrat funding, although we don’t tend to win seats where Reform is a likely winner.

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hypochondriac

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43 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

As inappropriate as Labour sending activists to the US Election. Although it’s the Tories it will really squeeze because the anti-Musk and hard right funding from centre right and One Nation firms will flow to Labour plus the TUs.

I’m concerned in that instance about Liberal Democrat funding, although we don’t tend to win seats where Reform is a likely winner.

Couldn't tesla UK make the donation rather than Musk himself? I support the principle of individuals being able to support a political party. You could argue that the amount is inappropriate but then you'd have to have some rule in place about a cap on an individual donation and that could be a tricky thing to work out. 

hypochondriac

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27 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Aren’t there any rules about donations from abroad? You can imagine the outrage if Putin had funded the Labour Party’s campaign!

Some info here…

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/30/eu-countries-parties-private-donors-spain-france

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_funding_in_the_United_Kingdom

Obviously but if you think this is the same thing you're a fucking imbecile. 

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Gloucester Saint

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1 hour ago, hypochondriac said:

Couldn't tesla UK make the donation rather than Musk himself? I support the principle of individuals being able to support a political party. You could argue that the amount is inappropriate but then you'd have to have some rule in place about a cap on an individual donation and that could be a tricky thing to work out. 

I’d rather no large overseas donors tbh, it’s bad enough with the influence and access the large domestic ones get. Not just the Conservatives, look at the summer and issues Labour had. And Musk would make Frank Hester look like Jeremy Corbyn. Then people moan ‘they don’t do things for us’ and are surprised as to why not.

Reform certainly aren’t doing it for the people of Clacton and Great Yarmouth. 

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hypochondriac

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1 hour ago, Gloucester Saint said:

I’d rather no large overseas donors tbh, it’s bad enough with the influence and access the large domestic ones get. Not just the Conservatives, look at the summer and issues Labour had. And Musk would make Frank Hester look like Jeremy Corbyn. Then people moan ‘they don’t do things for us’ and are surprised as to why not.

Reform certainly aren’t doing it for the people of Clacton and Great Yarmouth. 

So only political donations from British citizens? Like I said, couldn't the donation be from Tesla UK? In that scenario the argument could then be that it's from a company directly affected by political decisions in this country rather than a foreigner unaffected by anything happening here. 

Gloucester Saint

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6 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

So only political donations from British citizens? Like I said, couldn't the donation be from Tesla UK? In that scenario the argument could then be that it's from a company directly affected by political decisions in this country rather than a foreigner unaffected by anything happening here. 

We know where the money is coming from though. And Reform UK have been clear that they think climate change and especially net zero is a load of bollocks, so a £100m donation from an electric car maker is total hypocrisy, but that is Farage for you.

It’s no accident that the current government is under pressure around electric car subsidies, charging facilities and the 2030 target to end production of petrol/diesel vehicles (which I think they’ll have to u-turn on btw).

Lord Duckhunter

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10 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

So only political donations from British citizens? Like I said, couldn't the donation be from Tesla UK? In that scenario the argument could then be that it's from a company directly affected by political decisions in this country rather than a foreigner unaffected by anything happening here. 

The donation would have to be from a UK part of any business. 
 

The 3 establishment parties have received money from dodgy sources , now Soggy is up in arms because The hated Farage is going to get one. 
 

There’s one way to kill Reform, for the Uniparty to do what it says it will. If the current shambles continues and Kemi doesn’t offer a decent alternative, Nige will have a big say at the next election with, or without Elons help. 

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aintforever

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Musk could send over a billion and it wouldn't stop Farage being a cunt.

It all helps Starmer anyway, getting more right wing wack-jobs voting Reform rather than Conservative.

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sadoldgit

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There is plenty of “previous” in very rich people from foreign lands using their money and power to influence our politics - Rupert Murdoch being an obvious example. What is interesting is that every one of them have far right leanings.

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badgerx16

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50 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

There is plenty of “previous” in very rich people from foreign lands using their money and power to influence our politics - Rupert Murdoch being an obvious example. What is interesting is that every one of them have far right leanings.

So the Soviet Union never provided support and funding to the extreme left ?

sadoldgit

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45 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

So the Soviet Union never provided support and funding to the extreme left ?

I was referring to the media barons here and the wide variety of them rather than state support. It made sense for a state regime to support like minded organisations in different countries. What we have here is very wealthy individuals using their wealth and power to influence governments. How many Musks and Murdochs support the left here?

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hypochondriac

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1 hour ago, badgerx16 said:

So the Soviet Union never provided support and funding to the extreme left ?

Without getting all conspiracy theory, there's a fair bit of evidence of the likes of George soros funding organisations that subsequently meddle in foreign countries. 

badgerx16

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1 hour ago, sadoldgit said:

I was referring to the media barons here and the wide variety of them rather than state support. It made sense for a state regime to support like minded organisations in different countries. What we have here is very wealthy individuals using their wealth and power to influence governments. How many Musks and Murdochs support the left here?

People with huge caches of money prefer deregulation and the free market, so promote the causes of like minded politicians.

Shocking attitude.

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badgerx16

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52 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Without getting all conspiracy theory, there's a fair bit of evidence of the likes of George soros funding organisations that subsequently meddle in foreign countries. 

Playing "Real World" strategy games. Power corrupts.

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