Elon Musk

[sadoldgit]

6 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

All depends on who he sends, and whether it is a one way trip.

Indeed. I would say that Gates has already achieved more for mankind that Musk has so far and even if we do put humans on Mars will they provide any more information than the robots can? The bottom line is that unless there is some huge new development in transporting flesh, bone,  nervous systems and brain functions across vast distances in space at currently unimaginable speeds outside our own solar system, sending people out there is pointless.

[hypochondriac]

1 minute ago, egg said:

He made an actual point. 

Was there any tangible benefit to walking on the moon? Has there been no technological advancements or improvements as a result of that mission? 

Is the same point because there very obviously was incredible technological advancement from this sort of mission and it's a clear and tangible benefit. Anyway even though you're being a bit prickly about it it seems we agree. Musk can be an ego maniac and an arseholes but he can also have an incredibly positive impact on humanity for the reasons outlined. 

[sadoldgit]

The moon landings were an incredible achievement and provided many other spin off benefits for mankind. We know a lot more about space and space travel than we did in the last century thanks to that programme. We know that we can achieve just as much now by sending unmanned missions into space.

If Musk wants to be remembered for something special that would provide greater benefits to mankind, perhaps he should spend his considerable wealth on finding a cure for cancer instead?

Maybe Musk should take time out from becoming the next Bond villain and takes some tips from Gates?

https://www.gatesfoundation.org/about/foundation-fact-sheet

No Musk on this list.

https://english.jagran.com/trending/list-of-top-10-philanthropists-in-the-world-from-jamsetji-tata-to-zuckerberg-check-top-philanthropists-and-their-contributions-10193542

Edited 31 December, 2024 by sadoldgit
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[Holmes_and_Watson]

1 hour ago, whelk said:

Bollocks will he - the red squiggle underline spellchecker warning is much more use to me than seeing some prick bounce around on red rock moaning that there is no vegetation or water. There’s thinking big and there’s utter.noneense.

But following it through, Musk's Martian expedition would encounter Martians. Everyone knows that Martians are telepathic. When they teach us how to be telepathic too, we'll have no need for spellcheckers.

Darn, the high wind here makes it hard to keep this tin foil hat on...

[The Kraken]

30 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

The moon landings were an incredible achievement and provided many other spin off benefits for mankind. We know a lot more about space and space travel than we did in the last century thanks to that programme. We know that we can achieve just as much now by sending unmanned missions into space.

We can’t actually.  There’s an enormous onus pile of research to be done on how we leave this planet. Robots answer some of the questions but nowhere near all of them.

And the spin off technology will be the major benefit for mankind in the short term. So much technology arose from the Apollo missions and other space travel simply because we didn’t know how/if they could be done before they were massively funded to find out. Take away that funding and that development potentially gets pushed well downstream.

[hypochondriac]

40 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

The moon landings were an incredible achievement and provided many other spin off benefits for mankind. We know a lot more about space and space travel than we did in the last century thanks to that programme. We know that we can achieve just as much now by sending unmanned missions into space.

If Musk wants to be remembered for something special that would provide greater benefits to mankind, perhaps he should spend his considerable wealth on finding a cure for cancer instead?

Maybe Musk should take time out from becoming the next Bond villain and takes some tips from Gates?

https://www.gatesfoundation.org/about/foundation-fact-sheet

No Musk on this list.

https://english.jagran.com/trending/list-of-top-10-philanthropists-in-the-world-from-jamsetji-tata-to-zuckerberg-check-top-philanthropists-and-their-contributions-10193542

Stating that there's nothong to be learnt from sending humans to Mars is akin to that quote from the 1800s that said that everything that can be invented has been invented I.E it's abject nonsense. 

[Weston Super Saint]

Flip :

3 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

Absolutely this. It makes no sense at all to think about colonising a dead planet (and why send humans when bots can do the job if you aren’t looking at colonisation) whilst actively killing our own. Sending out satellites and robots is one thing, humans another. Unless of course we send Musk himself. 

 

Flop :

2 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

The moon landings were an incredible achievement and provided many other spin off benefits for mankind. We know a lot more about space and space travel than we did in the last century thanks to that programme. We know that we can achieve just as much now by sending unmanned missions into space.

 

No sense in sending people to a 'dead planet' but sending people to the (dead) moon was an 'incredible achievement'.

I assume LBC told you what to think in between posts....

[sadoldgit]

30 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Flip :

 

Flop :

No sense in sending people to a 'dead planet' but sending people to the (dead) moon was an 'incredible achievement'.

I assume LBC told you what to think in between posts....

You really are quite dense Weston. My point is that we no longer need to send humans to other planets having done it on the moon and have the advanced technology to send robots to other planets instead of humans. This has nothing to do with LBC but has everything to do with reading something and engaging your brain. Something you seem incapable of. Nothing better to do in the Christmas holidays than to stalk and troll?

Anyway, back to Musk. I knew little about him until the Thai cave rescue when he called one of the rescuers a “pedo guy.” It seems he is a campaigner for free speak so long as he can defame people himself. I see he recently told someone on X to “go f**k yourself in the face” because he criticised Musk whilst at the same time calling for the platform to be one of “light”. Strange man.
 

[aintforever]

6 hours ago, egg said:

His drive and determination is incredible. I just don't see any tangible benefits of getting to mars - we know there's no proper life there, and that it can't sustain proper life. If there's anything meaningful out there, it's way beyond mars. 

Agree with this, his drive and money would be put to much better use trying to solve problems on this planet rather than shooting a rocket to Mars. Just a massive ego trip.

Would obviously be a great achievement if it happens but don’t think there is much chance it will.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

5 hours ago, The Kraken said:

We can’t actually.  There’s an enormous onus pile of research to be done on how we leave this planet. Robots answer some of the questions but nowhere near all of them.

And the spin off technology will be the major benefit for mankind in the short term. So much technology arose from the Apollo missions and other space travel simply because we didn’t know how/if they could be done before they were massively funded to find out. Take away that funding and that development potentially gets pushed well downstream.

 

5 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

Stating that there's nothong to be learnt from sending humans to Mars is akin to that quote from the 1800s that said that everything that can be invented has been invented I.E it's abject nonsense. 

That felt a little awkward to read. Sadly, no one has bought SOG a clue for Christmas. And 2025 beckons with a range of such idiocy on any number of topics.

I wonder if Musk's Mars craft will be methane powered, as we have an endless BS generator here.

[The Kraken]

37 minutes ago, aintforever said:

Agree with this, his drive and money would be put to much better use trying to solve problems on this planet rather than shooting a rocket to Mars. Just a massive ego trip.

Would obviously be a great achievement if it happens but don’t think there is much chance it will.

🤣

Do you normally break down other billionaires’ spending like this? It’s a genuinely amusing trait.

As for Musk’s chances of success, I’d say he has a more than 50/50 chance, given the huge advances Space X have already made in such a relatively short space of time. All depends when he dies, I suppose, but I consider it in no way outlandish whatsoever that boots will be on Mars in his lifetime.

[aintforever]

4 hours ago, The Kraken said:

🤣

Do you normally break down other billionaires’ spending like this? It’s a genuinely amusing trait.

Fuck me, you are easily amused.  

[The Kraken]

3 minutes ago, aintforever said:

Fuck me, you are easily amused.  

🤣

Indeed I am,  But it’s better than the opposite I guess.
 

And I’m laughing at you, not with you, just in case it needed pointed out (it did, that was rhetorical).

[aintforever]

6 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

🤣

Indeed I am,  But it’s better than the opposite I guess.
 

And I’m laughing at you, not with you, just in case it needed pointed out (it did, that was rhetorical).

  crack on you sad prick.

[sadoldgit]

😂

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy53vz1qpx1o.amp

He shares the same interest in Pepe Le Frog as another alt right supporter on here it seems.

Edited January 1 by sadoldgit

[Gloucester Saint]

 Musk is turning seriously weird. If the article was 1 April that would have been a convincing April fool.

[The Kraken]

8 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

 Musk is turning seriously weird. If the article was 1 April that would have been a convincing April fool.

Turning?

The geezer has been an absolute wrongun for years.

[hypochondriac]

16 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

 Musk is turning seriously weird. If the article was 1 April that would have been a convincing April fool.

It's not news. He's been posting memes and trolling journalists for a good few years now. When journalists contact him for comment they get a poop emoji as a reply. 

[rallyboy]

2 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

When journalists contact him for comment they get a poop emoji as a reply. 

Amazing, incredibly clever, Musk's truly a business genius.

If he ever stops losing money and defending convicted criminals, we should get him in...what an asset he would be.

 

 

 

[hypochondriac]

4 minutes ago, rallyboy said:

Amazing, incredibly clever, Musk's truly a business genius.

If he ever stops losing money and defending convicted criminals, we should get him in...what an asset he would be.

 

 

 

Losing money? He has almost double the net worth of the second richest man on earth... 

[sadoldgit]

It is getting crazier…

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2518902/elon-musks-alleged-burner-account-adrian-dittman-exposed-after-using-it-to-defend-himself-on-x?amp=1

[SotonianWill]

14 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

It is getting crazier…

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2518902/elon-musks-alleged-burner-account-adrian-dittman-exposed-after-using-it-to-defend-himself-on-x?amp=1

So there’s no evidence of this being him. It’s literally “people on Twitter allege that…”

 

It could just as easily be a voice modifier to sound like Musk. The person doesn’t have his distinct sentence structure. 

[benjii]

Stupid cunt banging on about Tommy Robinson, rape gangs and Kier Starmer today.

He's like a divvy Reform voter.

[whelk]

31 minutes ago, benjii said:

Stupid cunt banging on about Tommy Robinson, rape gangs and Kier Starmer today.

He's like a divvy Reform voter.

Just to be clear is he supporting rape gangs or saying they are a bad thing?

[benjii]

Just now, whelk said:

Just to be clear is he supporting rape gangs or saying they are a bad thing?

He's definitely anti brown-on-white rape, it seems.

[whelk]

Imagine having respect for this cunt

[Gloucester Saint]

1 hour ago, benjii said:

He's definitely anti brown and black, trying to re-create Apartheid from his native South Africa it seems.

Fixed it for you

[hypochondriac]

1 hour ago, benjii said:

He's definitely anti brown-on-white rape, it seems.

I would assume every decent person is. 

[hypochondriac]

1 hour ago, whelk said:

Imagine having respect for this cunt

Not necessarily related but I wonder if Starmer's record as head of the CPS will come back to bite him at any point? 

[Gloucester Saint]

1 hour ago, whelk said:

Imagine having respect for this cunt

It’s revolting, and completely unfounded. But when have his ilk ever bothered with facts or context?

He’s backed Tommy Robinson and the AFD over the last fortnight. If it walks like a 🦆 and quacks like a 🦆 it almost always is.

It’s also completely inappropriate. Only natural that Kemi and Chris Philip would join him in the gutter. 

[Gloucester Saint]

3 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Not necessarily related but I wonder if Starmer's record as head of the CPS will come back to bite him at any point? 

Not on this issue, any more than Thatcher enabling Savile.

Musk is becoming more and more extreme. Making MLT sound like Karl Marx. Donald Trump will elbow him out shortly, already had a few pops last week about who the incoming President really was. 

[hypochondriac]

6 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Not on this issue, any more than Thatcher enabling Savile.

Musk is becoming more and more extreme. Making MLT sound like Karl Marx. Donald Trump will elbow him out shortly, already had a few pops last week about who the incoming President really was. 

I wasn't talking about this issue. I don't blame Starmer personally for child rape gangs. The whole system and people who turned a blind eye in general are all culpable. 

[Gloucester Saint]

Musk’s latest outburst is a bit dangerous for Farage, who has been distancing Reform from Robinson quite volubly to become a legitimate political party https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2025/01/02/who-is-tommy-robinson-why-elon-musk-is-posting-about-far-right-british-activist/

Whilst he clearly wants a donation, Musk could take the train set in a far more radical and violent direction.

What a surprise, ex-MP and disgraced ex-PM Liz Truss weighing in https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/elon-musk-keir-starmer-tommy-robinson-b2672709.html

Edited Thursday at 18:26 by Gloucester Saint

[hypochondriac]

1 minute ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Musk’s latest outburst is a bit dangerous for Farage, who has been distancing Reform from Robinson quite volubly to become a legitimate political party https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2025/01/02/who-is-tommy-robinson-why-elon-musk-is-posting-about-far-right-british-activist/

Whilst he clearly wants a donation, Musk could take the train set in a far more radical and violent direction.

I think I've mentioned previously I don't know an awful lot about Tommy Robinson but does someone have a link of what he's actually done? Was it nick Griffin levels of blatant racism or something else? I know recently he's been nicked for repeating false claims in contempt of court which seems very thick but not necessarily openly racist. 

[Gloucester Saint]

13 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

I think I've mentioned previously I don't know an awful lot about Tommy Robinson but does someone have a link of what he's actually done? Was it nick Griffin levels of blatant racism or something else? I know recently he's been nicked for repeating false claims in contempt of court which seems very thick but not necessarily openly racist. 

He was briefly in a position of responsibility for Griffin in the BNP and Head of the EDL as a direct action far right group after the BNP dissolved as a political party https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Robinson

Jailed for stalking a journalist and her family. Libelled a 15 year old refugee, found guilty in court and just carried on libelling them, hence the fifth and current prison sentence for contempt of court.

Luton Town hooligan with multiple convictions which is where the EDL stemmed from, which I’ve always found ironic as a Saints fan of the 1980s considering their away fan ban as well as their plastic pitch and asbestos riddled shithole of a stadium (even then, the Dell was in far better shape).

Mark Rowley, Met Commissioner, believes there was a clear link between Robinson and the Finsbury Park Mosque attacker.

Plenty of beef with Farage which is why he’ll be wary of Musk and attacked Badenoch again today. Reckon she might be trying to steal his pitch. 

Edited Thursday at 18:38 by Gloucester Saint

[hypochondriac]

13 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

He was briefly in a position of responsibility for Griffin in the BNP and Head of the EDL as a direct action far right group after the BNP dissolved as a political party https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Robinson

Jailed for stalking a journalist and her family. Libelled a 15 year old refugee, found guilty in court and just carried on libelling them, hence the fifth and current prison sentence for contempt of court.

Luton Town hooligan with multiple convictions which is where the EDL stemmed from, which I’ve always found ironic as a Saints fan of the 1980s considering their away fan ban as well as their plastic pitch and asbestos riddled shithole of a stadium (even then, the Dell was in far better shape).

Mark Rowley, Met Commissioner, believes there was a clear link between Robinson and the Finsbury Park Mosque attacker.

Plenty of beef with Farage which is why he’ll be wary of Musk and attacked Badenoch again today. Reckon she might be trying to steal his pitch. 

Yes I've seen the links to some violence, no doubt he's been rather violent and made some idiotic statements that have landed him in jail. When you say 'clear link' between him and the Finsbury Park mosque attacker, what does that mean? He certainly doesn't seem like a particularly nice person but I was just wondering if there were concrete quotes or unambiguously racist statements anywhere? Don't worry if not, like I said I don't know a lot about him (or care to know much to be honest.) 

Edited Thursday at 18:46 by hypochondriac

[sadoldgit]

13 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Yes I've seen the links to some violence, no doubt he's been rather violent and made some idiotic statements that have landed him in jail. He certainly doesn't seem like a particularly nice person but I was just wondering if there were concrete quotes or unambiguously racist statements anywhere? Don't worry if not, like I said I don't know a lot about him (or care to know much to be honest.) 

Yet you supported him when I posted negative comments about him? Strange behaviour for someone who claimed not to know much about him. Mind you it was the same with Katie Hopkins. If you can be bothered there is plenty of evidence out there proving that he is “unambiguously racist”.

I’ll help you out.

https://bridge.georgetown.edu/research/factsheet-tommy-robinson/

https://resistinghate.org/yes-tommy-robinson-you-are-a-racist/amp/

Edited Thursday at 18:58 by sadoldgit

[whelk]

50 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

It’s revolting, and completely unfounded. But when have his ilk ever bothered with facts or context?

He’s backed Tommy Robinson and the AFD over the last fortnight. If it walks like a 🦆 and quacks like a 🦆 it almost always is.

It’s also completely inappropriate. Only natural that Kemi and Chris Philip would join him in the gutter. 

He’s the sort who would stir up the Paulsgrove natives to attack a paediatrician 

Edited Thursday at 18:55 by whelk

[whelk]

3 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

same with Katie Hopkins

Been a while

[hypochondriac]

5 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Yet you supported him when I posted negative comments about him? Strange behaviour for someone who claimed not to know much about him. Mind you it was the same with Katie Hopkins. If you can be bothered there is plenty of evidence out there proving that he is “unambiguously racist”.

I’ll help you out.

https://bridge.georgetown.edu/research/factsheet-tommy-robinson/

Sounds like you have quite an interest in this Tommy Robinson character. You could almost say the go to person on the forum for Tommy Robinson knowledge. 

[Gloucester Saint]

20 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Yes I've seen the links to some violence, no doubt he's been rather violent and made some idiotic statements that have landed him in jail. He certainly doesn't seem like a particularly nice person but I was just wondering if there were concrete quotes or unambiguously racist statements anywhere? Don't worry if not, like I said I don't know a lot about him (or care to know much to be honest.) 

He’s focused on being anti-Islam since 2016 trying to repudiate his racist to all EDL past https://www.middleeasteye.net/explainers/uk-who-is-uk-far-right-tommy-robinson

He was stirring up the ‘two tier’ justice stuff as far back as 2014. 

Patriotic Alternative, led and coordinated by Nick Griffin’s former deputy (can’t recall the name), were probably more responsible for the summer riots which Musk has missed out although Robinson was happy to stir misinformation amongst his old EDL leaders. They’ve arguably filled the vacuum the EDL left behind and the NF before them. Dispatches on C4 did an undercover expose on PA in the summer which is worth watching on catch up. 
Mark Collett - that’s his name https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriotic_Alternative

Edited Thursday at 19:06 by Gloucester Saint

[Gloucester Saint]

9 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Sounds like you have quite an interest in this Tommy Robinson character. You could almost say the go to person on the forum for Tommy Robinson knowledge. 

I did wonder where Soggy was….

[Turkish]

11 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Yes I've seen the links to some violence, no doubt he's been rather violent and made some idiotic statements that have landed him in jail. When you say 'clear link' between him and the Finsbury Park mosque attacker, what does that mean? He certainly doesn't seem like a particularly nice person but I was just wondering if there were concrete quotes or unambiguously racist statements anywhere? Don't worry if not, like I said I don't know a lot about him (or care to know much to be honest.) 

I went to our village New Years lunch earlier and bumped into an old South African neighbour. He is what you might consider a typical South African, loves cricket, Rugby, has a tattoo of Nelson Mandela on his arm, has read the Long Walk to Freedom twice,  thinks Desmond Tutu is a hero and  Zola Budd was a traitor etc. Anyway, by an amazing coincidence he is friends with someone who used to date Elon Musk back in Pretoria. He said she told him he's a really genuine bloke who loves his family and kittens and was a really great boyfriend. They only split as she finished with him when she had to go to abroad to study but they kept in touch from time to time and used to do a lot of work to help the black community in RSA and his family even employed a couple as maids and gardeners. Hardly sounds like the nasty, racist, misogynist that some would have you believe. 

[whelk]

2 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

I did wonder where Soggy was….

Well he isn’t on the terrorism thread chastising all the islamaphoes

[AlexLaw76]

1 minute ago, Turkish said:

I went to our village New Years lunch earlier and bumped into an old South African neighbour. He is what you might consider a typical South African, loves cricket, Rugby, has a tattoo of Nelson Mandela on his arm, has read the Long Walk to Freedom twice,  thinks Desmond Tutu is a hero and  Zola Budd was a traitor etc. Anyway, by an amazing coincidence he is friends with someone who used to date Elon Musk back in Pretoria. He said she told him he's a really genuine bloke who loves his family and kittens and was a really great boyfriend. They only split as she finished with him when she had to go to abroad to study but they kept in touch from time to time and used to do a lot of work to help the black community in RSA and his family even employed a couple as maids and gardeners. Hardly sounds like the nasty, racist, misogynist that some would have you believe. 

It would all be very different if he liked Harris/Biden/Starmer

[hypochondriac]

8 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

He’s focused on being anti-Islam since 2016 trying to repudiate his racist to all EDL past https://www.middleeasteye.net/explainers/uk-who-is-uk-far-right-tommy-robinson

He was stirring up the ‘two tier’ justice stuff as far back as 2014. 

Patriotic Alternative, led and coordinated by Nick Griffin’s former deputy (can’t recall the name), were probably more responsible for the summer riots which Musk has missed out although Robinson was happy to stir misinformation amongst his old EDL leaders. They’ve arguably filled the vacuum the EDL left behind. Dispatches on C4 did an undercover expose on PA in the summer which is worth watching on catch up. 
Mark Collett - that’s his name https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriotic_Alternative

Interesting first link there. 

"There are women who don't want to go shopping because there are 20 men in long Islamic dress shouting anti-British stuff and calling for a jihad and stirring up religious and racial hatred. Those are our town centres, and we want them back," Robinson, then still hiding his identity, told the BBC in 2009.

"We want them back, not from the Muslims, but from the jihadist extremists that are operating in the Muslim communities. And the Muslim communities need to deal with their extremists."

"I'm not far-right…I'm just opposed to Islam. I believe it's backward and it's fascist," he said in 2016.

 

So according to that he's claiming not to be far right but opposed to Islam and he opposes calls for Jihad and women feeling intimidated in public. 

" He also pushed the common conspiracy theory that British police were refusing to prosecute sexual assault of children by Asian men because they were afraid of being seen as racist" 

Is that a conspiracy theory? I'm pretty sure it's an accepted fact at this point that police failed to act when they should for fear of being labelled as racist. 

 

Like I said, doesn't seem like a nice bloke but those actual quotes from him don't sound extremist even if you disagree. 

 

[sadoldgit]

54 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Yes I've seen the links to some violence, no doubt he's been rather violent and made some idiotic statements that have landed him in jail. When you say 'clear link' between him and the Finsbury Park mosque attacker, what does that mean? He certainly doesn't seem like a particularly nice person but I was just wondering if there were concrete quotes or unambiguously racist statements anywhere? Don't worry if not, like I said I don't know a lot about him (or care to know much to be honest.) 

Thinking about it you have posted in the past that you claimed not to know much about him and it was pointed out to you what a racist scumbag he is. Why are you still pretending that you don’t know much about him and continue to play down his racist views? Even if you struggle with the evidence against him, even you should get an inkling about his tendencies given he led the very racist English Defence League.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Defence_League

Edited Thursday at 19:39 by sadoldgit

[hypochondriac]

4 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Thinking about it you have posted in the past that you claimed not to know much about him and it was pointed out to you what a racist scumbag he is. Why are you still pretending that you don’t know much about him and continue to play down his racist views? Even if you struggle with the evidence against him, even you should get an inkling about his tendencies given he led the very racist English Defence League.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Defence_League

I'm not sure you have. 

[Turkish]

44 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Thinking about it you have posted in the past that you claimed not to know much about him and it was pointed out to you what a racist scumbag he is. Why are you still pretending that you don’t know much about him and continue to play down his racist views? Even if you struggle with the evidence against him, even you should get an inkling about his tendencies given he led the very racist English Defence League.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Defence_League

You seem to know more about him than anyone. Just like Musk and Farage you’re frigging obsessed with them. Perhaps they appeal to the person beneath the mask more than you want to believe

[Holmes_and_Watson]

1 hour ago, Turkish said:

You seem to know more about him than anyone. Just like Musk and Farage you’re frigging obsessed with them. Perhaps they appeal to the person beneath the mask more than you want to believe

In the last 3 days, we've had:-

That's about it for first hand human exploration.
Racing to score points from the New Orleans attack.
Our first of our many 2025 "What Tommy and Katie did next" posts.

Less a mask, than a lopsided Christmas hat worn by a drunk, throwback relative at this point.