Brighton 2-2 Saints - Match Thread

[Totton Saint]

18 minutes ago, Chez said:

managers directing traffic on the sideline is all a load of bollocks IMO. It just gives the TV directors something else to show during the increasing number of stoppages - and in turn has risen the profile of managers (or are they just head coaches these days?) allowing them to demand eye watering salaries.  If Clough could allow his side to play (and win) a game whilst sat in the changing rooms, then I wonder what actual effect Tony Pulis shouting and demanding more from players all game actually has?  

Players win games. Tactics no doubt have a bearing, but managers waving arms on the sideline has no impact.

 

A very good treatise. Years back one never knew who  were the managers. Bob lord at Burnley in the sixties was the exception

[DT]

Shoehorning Livramento in again to get kwp playing out of position. Long up front. Tactical dwarfism

[DT]

We need a new manager and entire coaching team

[Chez]

6 minutes ago, beatlesaint said:

Given Long won’t be here next season yet Armstrong probably will it would have made more sense.

Increasingly looks like Long will get another deal to me. Ralph praises him a lot, uses him to see out games and is now even starting him. 

[Chris cooper]

Just now, DT said:

Shoehorning Livramento in again to get kwp playing out of position. Long up front. Tactical dwarfism

Boring now init !! 

[Chez]

Just now, DT said:

Shoehorning Livramento in again to get kwp playing out of position. 

Has Livramento actually played well since the injury? Equally, has he played better than Perraud? 

[davefizzy14]

Happy with the changes Ralph's made today. We needed to freshen things up. Glad Salisu is back. Long deserves a start in my opinion, has looked good in recent cameo appearances and he always give 110%. Hopefully Arma will get good game time in second half. Weve got pace down both wings with Redders and Tella. We can rest both Stuart and Moi and bring them on later if we need to do so - COYR

Edited 24 April, 2022 by davefizzy14

[AlexLaw76]

Feel sorry for Adam Armstrong.  Completely mis-managed by Ralph.

 

[Golac's Iron Gonads]

Jesus the state of you lot.

[Chez]

Just now, AlexLaw76 said:

Feel sorry for Adam Armstrong.  Completely mis-managed by Ralph.

 

He played him until his form was so bad that he had to drop him. He then tried to bring him back into the side, but his confidence looked shot and he simply did not deliver.  Perhaps he could have been given two or three games in this run in, but not sure he has been totally mis-managed. 

For context, I think Armstrong has something about him and I have said on here repeatedly that he could still come good.

[AlexLaw76]

Just now, Chez said:

He played him until his form was so bad that he had to drop him. He then tried to bring him back into the side, but his confidence looked shot and he simply did not deliver.  Perhaps he could have been given two or three games in this run in, but not sure he has been totally mis-managed. 

For context, I think Armstrong has something about him and I have said on here repeatedly that he could still come good.

The manager is supposed to get the best out of a player, right?

[Chez]

Tella gets his chance.  Hopefully he can take it. I think everyone expected him to make more of a impact this season. His pace and skills can excite. Time to shine lad. COYR.

[Dman]

8 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Feel sorry for Adam Armstrong.  Completely mis-managed by Ralph.

 

4th choice striker for us now. Really disappointing signing given he was signed to replace Ings and can’t get a look in. 

[AlexLaw76]

Just now, Chez said:

Tella gets his chance.  Hopefully he can take it. I think everyone expected him to make more of a impact this season. His pace and skills can excite. Time to shine lad. COYR.

has he ever had a good game?

Hopefully, he turns it on today. 1-1 for me

[John B]

1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said:

The manager is supposed to get the best out of a player, right?

Perhaps he has got the best out of Armstrong and his best is not very good

[East Kent Saint]

New manager required to change favourites but ....

[DT]

Just now, John B said:

Perhaps he has got the best out of Armstrong and his best is not very good

Perhaps it hasn’t been helped by the way he has used him, and had Long ahead of him. Perhaps Ralph is actually not a very good manager. We’ll see, but fully expect Brighton to suddenly be able to score at home. Thing about being a stepping stone club is no one really cares about the stone towards the end of the season when they can negotiate with other clubs and avoid getting injured. Wouldn’t want to ruin that big money move, would they. ?

[Saints foreva]

1 minute ago, Dman said:

4th choice striker for us now. Really disappointing signing given he was signed to replace Ings and can’t get a look in. 

4th choice behind a guy who struggled to get a look in while on loan at Bournemouth last season. Shambles. 

[gammon cheeks]

2 minutes ago, John B said:

Perhaps he has got the best out of Armstrong and his best is not very good

Well untill he actually has a run of games we will never know

[Saint NL]

Sad state of affairs when a game like this would have been hotly anticipated. I nearly forgot the game was on.

 

Two toothless teams going at it, should be a goal-fest 

The BBC were really pushing that narrative that Maupay hasn't scored in 13 home games, I wonder he'll get a better chance than today....

[Chez]

1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said:

The manager is supposed to get the best out of a player, right?

 

Managers are not magicians. It's up to the player to perform. He was given his chance. The manager backed him and stuck with him after quite a few average displays, but he got worse not better. He had to drop him. 

[Chez]

4 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

has he ever had a good game?

Hopefully, he turns it on today. 1-1 for me

I think you are right, a few flashes of brilliance that grab the eye, but a complete performance...not yet.

[Streaky]

7 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

has he ever had a good game?

Hopefully, he turns it on today. 1-1 for me

Sheffield utd and Fulham he was superb with his direct running. This season has been a write off

[nta786]

How bad must Adam Armstrong be in training?

Not gonna blame Ralph entirely here, but really the scouting department have a bit to answer for too if he is unable to meet the rigours of the Premier League.

£15m is a lot for us to have him just sat on the bench.

Other than that, am happy with the team I think but would have preferred Perraud over Tino

[Chez]

3 minutes ago, gammon cheeks said:

Well untill he actually has a run of games we will never know

was the run of games at the start of the season not a run of games? He started 11 of 12 of those games, playing the full 90 in almost all of them. 

Perhaps he deserves another run.

[Kingsland Codger]

30 minutes ago, DT said:

Shoehorning Livramento in again to get kwp playing out of position. Long up front. Tactical dwarfism

We have the man who played left back for the England under 20 team who won the World Cup playing left back for Saints today. 

[Chez]

2 minutes ago, nta786 said:

Other than that, am happy with the team I think but would have preferred Perraud over Tino

Likewise. Very difficult to know who to pick as we have been so poor. Hopefully this side has the right balance.

[Baird of the land]

Generally ok with team. Happy to see Tella starting. Disappointing to see Long, says something about his faith in Armstrong though

[Lee On Solent Saint]

Big game for Tella. He needs to make his mark for me sooner or later. Bit like Smallbone,not sure he can make the step up either. 

[Chez]

2 minutes ago, Kingsland Codger said:

We have the man who played left back for the England under 20 team who won the World Cup playing left back for Saints today. 

he has played bloody well for us at least back too. You could argue that he's now an England full side right back. They key for me is can Livramento raise his game a bit to justify his selection. I've not been impressed with his defending all season and he's not done much in attack since returning from injury. Perraud is not a world beater mind, its just that he was playing during that wonderful spell.

[gammon cheeks]

No Hes goal ...so any links please?

[Chez]

2 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Big game for Tella. He needs to make his mark for me sooner or later. Bit like Smallbone,not sure he can make the step up either. 

Good point. I've not seen Smallbone do anything to justify his selection, but others suggest he is a talent, so maybe they both need more time. Not sure how much longer we can wait. We need one of those two to step up.

[Manuel]

So far so good...

http://mx.freestreams-live1.com/epl-2/

[suewhistle]

2 minutes ago, Manuel said:

So far so good...

http://mx.freestreams-live1.com/epl-2/

Thanks..

[ErwinK1961]

Say what you like about Armstrong, but he hasn’t been given a fair crack whatsoever. Feel sorry for him.

[Mr X]

Ralph out! 😂

[StrangelyBrown]

How on earth does bednarek keep his place?? He's been woeful for ages now.

[trousers]

Cock

[Saints foreva]

You useless cunts. No goal for 5 home games and we hand them one inside a minute. Shocking from Forster. 

[skintsaint]

lol

[nta786]

1-0 already fuck me

[benjii]

Mess up between Sali and Forster but Livramento was pathetic reacting to that throw in.

[Toadhall Saint]

Christ

[Holmes_and_Watson]

Oh bloomin' heck.

[Turkish]

Just now, Saints foreva said:

You useless cunts. No goal for 5 home games and we hand them one inside a minute. Shocking from Forster. 

You seem surprised, it’s what we do

Edited 24 April, 2022 by Turkish

[Manuel]

Brighton haven't scored in their last 5 home games. Takes them just over a minute against Saints.

[Lee On Solent Saint]

We are so weak it's bordering on funny now

[Saints foreva]

Just now, Turkish said:

You seem surprised, it’s what we do

So fucking Saintsy. 

[angelman]

Grand Prix is on, and it's wet. Maybe more interesting. 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

Livramento looked to have all the mobility of a freighter in the run up and throw in. Salisu takes out Forster allowing a tap in. Feeble allowing to get to the throw in as well.