Brighton 2-2 Saints - Match Thread

[hypochondriac]

Solid result that. 

[Chez]

1 minute ago, DT said:

If he’d picked the right team in the right formation we’d have won. But that’s beyond this manager 

...or you could say that whatever he said at half time worked a treat.

[obelisk]

Now if Saints can just get the forwards to start scoring as well.

[Teddeer]

About time these showed some fight to earn a decent point.

[OttawaSaint]

Just now, Chez said:

...or you could say that whatever he said at half time worked a treat.

Or they locked him out of the dressing room!

[doc oli]

Actually think that was half decent- especially with the ball. Far better than when we have 3 at the back. Forced them to change formation because we were dominating out wide. 

[Viking Saint]

Guess we should be happy with a point after being 0-2 down but am still underwhelmed

[miserableoldgit]

Can I clarify? It's "Ralph Out!" when we are losing but the players that he has picked "get him out of jail" when they turn things around? Is that how it works? Asking for a friend.......

[OttawaSaint]

Just now, obelisk said:

Now if Saints can just get the forwards to start scoring as well.

JWP being top scorer highlights how goal shy our forwards are. 

[Baird of the land]

Happy with the spirited comeback. Much better 2nd half display. We still look really fragile defensively(the disallowed goal for instance)

Really happy to see Tella back starting. Caused them problems with his direct pacy running and involved in both our goals. A shame he cramped up when we were pushing for the third.

Lovely goals from JWP and a good all round display from him. Adams was a real presence up front too.

[Dman]

1 minute ago, Chez said:

...or you could say that whatever he said at half time worked a treat.

Did it though? 2 brilliant strikes got us out the shit there. We didn’t really look like scoring outside of those 2 efforts. 

[Sheaf Saint]

I'll take that. Especially after how comically bad we were in the first half. Decent result all things considered.

And Burnley have dropped Everton into the relegation places just in time for their trip to Anfield. Delightful.

[Dman]

1 minute ago, miserableoldgit said:

Can I clarify? It's "Ralph Out!" when we are losing but the players that he has picked "get him out of jail" when they turn things around? Is that how it works? Asking for a friend.......

1 win in 9, that’s why it’s “Ralph out!”. 

[ButtikonSaint]

Missed the first half... lucky me... we looked like a decent team in the second half, could have scored a few more.
JWP take a bow.
 

 

[trousers]

1 minute ago, Dman said:

Did it though? 2 brilliant strikes got us out the shit there. We didn’t really look like scoring outside of those 2 efforts. 

And Brighton only scored because of two defensive brain farts. Swings and roundabouts.

[Saint-Reece]

4 minutes ago, DT said:

If he’d picked the right team in the right formation we’d have won. But that’s beyond this manager 

You were the same person praising Ralph’s lineup pre Burnley correct? You just don’t have a clue what you are on about. 
 

Good reaction second half, not sure what was said / done but it worked as we were much more aggressive and winning all the second balls. Work to be done on the squad in the summer but at least we didn’t have a typical crumble today. 

[Saint Garrett]

2 minutes ago, skintsaint said:

40 points should see us safe now

All that 2nd half domination and we didnt create one decent chance apart from JWPs strike.

Defensively a shambles first half but much better 2nd half.

Hope Tino's injury isn't too bad, but probably the end of his season.

Looked like an ACL for me, so 6-9 months. Gutted for him if it is.

Better balance once Perraud came on, played with much more intensity second half, and Salisu settled a bit too, looked really shaky first half. 

Honourable mentions to Tella, Redmond, Adams and obviously JWP. He’s unbelievable 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

Brighton will be disapointed not to have won that. I know as I'm really pleased we managed to get anything there. JWP really got us out of trouble.

We had an odd line up, and apart from a spell int he second half we looked disjointed throughout.

Salisu and Bednarek were dragged all over the place. Livramento looked slow (hope that doens;t turn out to be as serious as we fear). While Perraud made the team more balanced, March and other had the beating of him down that flank, which is a worry.

Long is an intelligent player, but I never think anything that comes near him is going to go in. As the game went on Adams was able to hold up play well for others. That's one of the few ways we're likely to create. Broja was a handful when he came on, but Brighton were pushing us back by then.

Tella nearly had a chance in the first half, but was fouled. In the second he had a couple of nice touches, before cramp got to him. Redond didn't have one of his better games.

Lots to pick apart, and improve on. I didn;t see us getting 2 goals back, if it hadn;t have been for JWP.

[miserableoldgit]

1 minute ago, Dman said:

1 win in 9, that’s why it’s “Ralph out!”. 

40 points so far.....

[Dman]

1 minute ago, trousers said:

And Brighton only scored because of two defensive brain farts. Swings and roundabouts.

True, although those brain farts seemingly happen every week. Underlying issues… 

[Chez]

2 minutes ago, Dman said:

Did it though? 2 brilliant strikes got us out the shit there. We didn’t really look like scoring outside of those 2 efforts. 

well, we dominated the second half, so if we are ti lambast Ralph for team talks that see leads disappear then should he not be credited when the reverse happens?

 

 

[Saint_clark]

Perraud - Salisu - Bednarek - KWP

This is what our defensive lineup should be every game Ralph. Stop dicking about with it.

 

 

 

[Whitey Grandad]

1 minute ago, Saint Garrett said:

Looked like an ACL for me, so 6-9 months. Gutted for him if it is.

Better balance once Perraud came on, played with much more intensity second half, and Salisu settled a bit too, looked really shaky first half. 

Honourable mentions to Tella, Redmond, Adams and obviously JWP. He’s unbelievable 

Ouch

Wait for the swelling to go down a bit and hope for the best. 

[Dman]

Just now, Chez said:

well, we dominated the second half, so if we are ti lambast Ralph for team talks that see leads disappear then should he not be credited when the reverse happens?

 

 

We looked better, controlled the ball better but didn’t really create any clear cut chances. The tide turned in their favour after the offside goal though and last 10/15 was all them. 
 

Regardless, the game is played over 90 minutes and going 2-0 down in the first half isn’t good enough. 

[miserableoldgit]

1 minute ago, Chez said:

well, we dominated the second half, so if we are ti lambast Ralph for team talks that see leads disappear then should he not be credited when the reverse happens?

 

 

Don't be silly.....Ralph Out!.......or something.

[Chez]

6 minutes ago, OttawaSaint said:

JWP being top scorer highlights how goal shy our forwards are. 

did we create any chances for the forwards? Long perhaps had a chance to shoot, but other than that I can't recall any of the front three having an opportunity.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

1 minute ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Ouch

Wait for the swelling to go down a bit and hope for the best. 

I hope he's back soon. Our next line up will be KWP - Salisu - Bednarek - Small, as we need to have one player in there to show off The Pathway.

[Toadhall Saint]

1 minute ago, Dman said:

True, although those brain farts seemingly happen every week. Underlying issues… 

Players not good enough or lacking confidence? All good earlier in the season.

 

[Sheaf Saint]

1 minute ago, Dman said:

True, although those brain farts seemingly happen every week. Underlying issues… 

Yes, the underlying issue is that our squad is of extremely limited quality and the manager is forced to select unreliable players who are prone to brain farts.

[Turkish]

40 points we are safe! 😰 

[skintsaint]

5 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said:

Looked like an ACL for me

I reckon ankle the way his left leg was protected on the stretcher.

[Whitey Grandad]

2 minutes ago, Dman said:

We looked better, controlled the ball better but didn’t really create any clear cut chances. The tide turned in their favour after the offside goal though and last 10/15 was all them. 
 

Regardless, the game is played over 90 minutes and going 2-0 down in the first half isn’t good enough. 

But going 2-0 up in the second is ok?

[Whitey Grandad]

Just now, skintsaint said:

I reckon ankle the way his left leg was protected on the stretcher.

Just out for the rest of this season then.

[Chez]

5 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said:

Looked like an ACL for me, so 6-9 months. Gutted for him if it is.

Better balance once Perraud came on, played with much more intensity second half, and Salisu settled a bit too, looked really shaky first half. 

Honourable mentions to Tella, Redmond, Adams and obviously JWP. He’s unbelievable 

he aint going anywhere this summer and will harden our resolve to keep KWP.

Thought Redmond kept the ball quite well. Tella showed flashes, but he gave the ball away in tight areas a lot. 

Salisu was sloppy just after half time, with a complete brain fade, but he was far less exposed in the second half.

[Dman]

1 minute ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Yes, the underlying issue is that our squad is of extremely limited quality and the manager is forced to select unreliable players who are prone to brain farts.

They weren’t prone to ‘brain farts’ from January - March though. 
 

for what it’s worth, I think it’s a combination of the manager becoming stale and certain players not being good enough. 
 

I think Ralph’s tactics are a huge issue for us though. 

[The Kraken]

14 minutes ago, OttawaSaint said:

40 pts! We're safe...

Massive sigh of relief!

The staying up party can begin!!

[Baird of the land]

1 minute ago, Chez said:

did we create any chances for the forwards? Long perhaps had a chance to shoot, but other than that I can't recall any of the front three having an opportunity.

Long had a shot at top corner(when he probably should have passed to tella). He also had the one where he took way too long over and got tackled(when he likely was wrongly called offside). Adams had the early chance for the rebound from Livramento's shot.

[Toadhall Saint]

1 minute ago, Dman said:

They weren’t prone to ‘brain farts’ from January - March though. 
 

for what it’s worth, I think it’s a combination of the manager becoming stale and certain players not being good enough. 
 

I think Ralph’s tactics are a huge issue for us though. 

Tactics were ok in the same period tho?

[Master Bates]

@Roo1976

14 as in 14 Ward-Prowse freekicks

[Dman]

1 minute ago, Toadhall Saint said:

Tactics were ok in the same period tho?

Football clubs have whole departments to analyse teams. If you’re just trying the same thing over and over again, you’ll get found out. It happened last season, it’s happened again this season. 

[Chez]

4 minutes ago, Dman said:

We looked better, controlled the ball better but didn’t really create any clear cut chances. The tide turned in their favour after the offside goal though and last 10/15 was all them. 
Regardless, the game is played over 90 minutes and going 2-0 down in the first half isn’t good enough. 

Not sure what changed. We just got hold of the game. I dint see any real change in tactic just all players upping things.

Yep, we faded in the last ten minutes, but strangely it was when we created our best chance for Romeu. Our inability to create chances is a worry.

Mid table team draws with mid table team. Over the course of the two games against Brighton I'd say we were the better team. We murdered them at SMS and it was 50:50 today.

[Chez]

5 minutes ago, Baird of the land said:

Long had a shot at top corner(when he probably should have passed to tella). He also had the one where he took way too long over and got tackled(when he likely was wrongly called offside). Adams had the early chance for the rebound from Livramento's shot.

so basically one shot, a half chance to shoot and a ball that went near a striker on the floor. Not exactly putting it on a plate for them are we?

[Toadhall Saint]

4 minutes ago, Dman said:

Football clubs have whole departments to analyse teams. If you’re just trying the same thing over and over again, you’ll get found out. It happened last season, it’s happened again this season. 

So why are we not relegated if we have been found out? Especially as we were found out last season?

[Dellman]

We get more goals from the back than the front, I know a goal is a goal no matter where it comes from, but that is sort of weird

[Dman]

5 minutes ago, Toadhall Saint said:

So why are we not relegated if we have been found out? Especially as we were found out last season?

I don’t really have an answer to why we have a spell of games a season where we look unplayable, despite being fucking rubbish for 90% of the season. If I did, I’d be working for the club I suspect. 
 

Player confidence or lack of is probably a big part of the issue. 
 

[miserableoldgit]

1 minute ago, Dman said:

I don’t really have an answer to why we have a spell of games a season where we look unplayable, despite being fucking rubbish for 90% of the season. If I did, I’d be working for the club I suspect. 
 

Player confidence or lack of is probably a big part of the issue. 
 

With 40 points so far......?

[Baird of the land]

11 minutes ago, Chez said:

so basically one shot, a half chance to shoot and a ball that went near a striker on the floor. Not exactly putting it on a plate for them are we?

Well the adams one would have been on a plate if he hadn't thrown himself on the floor in the 1st place.

But yeah i do agree we didn't create a wealth of great chances for them from our spells on top of the game.

[Toadhall Saint]

4 minutes ago, Dman said:

I don’t really have an answer to why we have a spell of games a season where we look unplayable, despite being fucking rubbish for 90% of the season. If I did, I’d be working for the club I suspect. 
 

Player confidence or lack of is probably a big part of the issue. 
 

With the players we have we are a mid table team. Confidence for teams like us is a big thing.

[Nemi]

11 minutes ago, Dellman said:

We get more goals from the back than the front, I know a goal is a goal no matter where it comes from, but that is sort of weird

This is true, we are so one dimensional win or lose. I can hardly remember any goals we scored because we actually got in behind the defence, even from the season before, I can think of maybe Broja’s goal against Brentford and that’s basically all I can remember. I guess there was also Armstrong on the opening day but that only came from a defensive cock-up.

[trousers]

7 minutes ago, Dman said:

I don’t really have an answer to why we have a spell of games a season where we look unplayable, despite being fucking rubbish for 90% of the season. If I did, I’d be working for the club I suspect. 
 

Player confidence or lack of is probably a big part of the issue.