VectisSaint Posted 6 April, 2022 Share Posted 6 April, 2022 8 minutes ago, East Kent Saint said: The BBC News are telling the same story as Sky News , ITV News , CH4 News , CCN News etc But not the same story as (K)GBNews. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sad saints fan Posted 6 April, 2022 Share Posted 6 April, 2022 I am not taking sides in this argument and I have no doubt that some very bad things have happened in occupied Ukraine but at the start of the conflict we saw pictures of civilian being issued with guns and being trained to use them . I admire their courage and willingness to defend their homeland . Anyone who has been in a combat situation will tell you that if some is shooting at you ,then they are the enemy and you shoot back and not check to see if they are military personnel first ,this COULD account for some of the civilian casualties. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 6 April, 2022 Share Posted 6 April, 2022 Is he still worthy of being on the banner? 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 6 April, 2022 Share Posted 6 April, 2022 43 minutes ago, aintforever said: What evidence have you seen that would suggest it was staged by Ukraine? That's exactly noodles's point. There is no conclusive evidence one way or the other without a full investigation. In that case there is a possibility (albeit so small as to be almost negligible) that it may not have been the Russians. Unless you have unequivocal proof that it was them.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 6 April, 2022 Share Posted 6 April, 2022 I wore a 'Le God' shirt and now i wonder if he really came to believe he can do no wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 6 April, 2022 Share Posted 6 April, 2022 6 minutes ago, sad saints fan said: Anyone who has been in a combat situation will tell you that if some is shooting at you ,then they are the enemy and you shoot back and not check to see if they are military personnel first ,this COULD account for some of the civilian casualties. Including 3 year old girls? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 6 April, 2022 Share Posted 6 April, 2022 26 minutes ago, East Kent Saint said: The BBC News are telling the same story as Sky News , ITV News , CH4 News , CCN News etc Of course they are, because they are the MSM. Stuff them, get yourself over to twitter to see what the real news is. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 6 April, 2022 Share Posted 6 April, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, sad saints fan said: I am not taking sides in this argument and I have no doubt that some very bad things have happened in occupied Ukraine but at the start of the conflict we saw pictures of civilian being issued with guns and being trained to use them . I admire their courage and willingness to defend their homeland . Anyone who has been in a combat situation will tell you that if some is shooting at you ,then they are the enemy and you shoot back and not check to see if they are military personnel first ,this COULD account for some of the civilian casualties. As somebody who was in the military for many years, you are quite right, it could. And the rapes? Edited 6 April, 2022 by Micky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwsaint Posted 6 April, 2022 Share Posted 6 April, 2022 Friends who have met MLT say that he comes across as very pleasant. Just wish he kept his opinions to himself. Spouting nonsense about things he knows little about is doing him no favours at all. And those of us who were fortunate to watch him play now think a lot less of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waylander Posted 6 April, 2022 Share Posted 6 April, 2022 32 minutes ago, sad saints fan said: I am not taking sides in this argument and I have no doubt that some very bad things have happened in occupied Ukraine but at the start of the conflict we saw pictures of civilian being issued with guns and being trained to use them . I admire their courage and willingness to defend their homeland . Anyone who has been in a combat situation will tell you that if some is shooting at you ,then they are the enemy and you shoot back and not check to see if they are military personnel first ,this COULD account for some of the civilian casualties. But not the ones with their hands tied 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 6 April, 2022 Share Posted 6 April, 2022 I don't personally have an issue with what MLT puts on twitter because he should be allowed to put whatever he wants on twitter. Its fundamental to protecting free speech and the society we live in, but equally it doesn't mean people have to agree with him. What MLT can't do is expect to put stuff out there that clearly conflicts with his role as an ambassador for the club or his employment requirements. And specifically in this instance, i think basically everyone would agree he's a fool for commenting on war crimes with anything other than condemnation. Fundamentally though, his opinions shouldn't impact on what he's done for the club and city historically, nor the joy he's given to the fans. Its a shame for people that can't differentiate between his career as a sportsman and his takes on world events... Although I'd query why anyone would attach any particular credence to a footballer's personal opinions (or any other celebrity for that matter) on fields other than their profession. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorsaint Posted 6 April, 2022 Share Posted 6 April, 2022 2 hours ago, Toadhall Saint said: Can you have an embarrassing legend? Georgie Best? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 6 April, 2022 Author Share Posted 6 April, 2022 6 hours ago, Turkish said: Wasn't me posting at 3 in the morning You seem to be very troubled Whelk, everything okay hun? ❤️ I saw some poster explain recently about times not being the same around the world. Just think of it like your week in Magaluf being a hour ahead. Bit like that but further away. Don’t think you are ready for the international dateline explanation yet sweetie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 6 April, 2022 Author Share Posted 6 April, 2022 5 hours ago, Turkish said: A clearly outraged Whelk said "****, thick ****, big nose ****, ****, ****, Thick. Expected more of the ****, you're a ****, thick ****, ****, out of your depth ****, ****, embarassing ****, ****, ****" You getting a little obsessed. I get your superiority complex has hit a wall as you like to latch on to posters but basically not much you can feel superior over me. Hey getting a few likes though so all is not lost. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 6 April, 2022 Share Posted 6 April, 2022 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: That's exactly noodles's point. There is no conclusive evidence one way or the other without a full investigation. In that case there is a possibility (albeit so small as to be almost negligible) that it may not have been the Russians. Unless you have unequivocal proof that it was them.... What exactly happened to those specific bodies in Bucha obviously remains to be proven but there is a tsunami of evidence that Russia are committing war crimes. I have yet to see any that suggests it was staged by the Ukrainians. Anyway even if it was that is a million miles from some big 'media' conspiracy which is what the dick-head was inferring. Edited 6 April, 2022 by aintforever 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 6 April, 2022 Share Posted 6 April, 2022 I do feel sad for MLT as he is probably feeling pretty upset that he has sacrificed his privileged position today. He has gained 500K followers, that will not be due to his general views, but because he was put there due to his football achievements with us. If not, he would probably only have a 100 followers or less. Therefore he had a responsibility to the club and fanbase. Now he is a 'Free man' he can spout what he likes, but not have the association to our club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 6 April, 2022 Author Share Posted 6 April, 2022 Just seen his stepping down tweets. Wants to make it clear he does not advocate war - no one thought he was he just thinks everything that is covered is not happening. Shame he has gone so mental but glad he has stepped down as was an embarrassment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 6 April, 2022 Share Posted 6 April, 2022 https://www.facebook.com/thelapstone/ could be an interesting night! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedArmy Posted 6 April, 2022 Share Posted 6 April, 2022 11 minutes ago, Noodles34 said: https://www.facebook.com/thelapstone/ could be an interesting night! Cancel it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedArmy Posted 6 April, 2022 Share Posted 6 April, 2022 How many times has delldays had a wank over this tweet? I’m guessing 3 or 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Saint Posted 6 April, 2022 Share Posted 6 April, 2022 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre History repeating ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsLoyal Posted 6 April, 2022 Share Posted 6 April, 2022 No sympathy whatsoever as he was told countless times to reign it in and he continued to stick two fingers up to many Saints fans saying it. I expect hes also been removed from the charity foundation and has lost his work agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvSFC Posted 6 April, 2022 Share Posted 6 April, 2022 With the knowledge that the Pinnacle group/Michael Fialka managed to convince him to join their cause, he doesn't seem the most reliable source of information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 6 April, 2022 Author Share Posted 6 April, 2022 State agents - lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 6 April, 2022 Share Posted 6 April, 2022 Well Lineker is employed by the BBC after all. So he must be a deep state plant. Never mind the fact he is constantly criticising the government on Twitter. That's just a smokescreen, obviously. And MLT hasn't been cancelled FFS. He's just been rightly criticised and ridiculed for sharing something without engaging in any critical thinking about it. He's still free to Tweet whatever he likes. Cancelled would be having his Twitter account removed from him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorchester Saint Posted 6 April, 2022 Share Posted 6 April, 2022 3 hours ago, RedArmy said: The tolerant left out in force again demanding he be cancelled because his views are intolerable. They can’t even see their own hypocrisy…bonkers! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 6 April, 2022 Share Posted 6 April, 2022 2 hours ago, kwsaint said: Friends who have met MLT say that he comes across as very pleasant. Just wish he kept his opinions to himself. Spouting nonsense about things he knows little about is doing him no favours at all. And those of us who were fortunate to watch him play now think a lot less of him I have had the pleasure of meeting MLT on a number of occasions and, as described, he came across as a pleasant, well grounded, person. When I first read about his rather extreme posts, I thought they were written by someone who had hacked his twitter account. Now I realise this is not the case and I feel rather let down. MLT gave me so much pleasure as a player and loyal team member that his 'conversion' to a David Icke type leaves me more than a little saddened. I dont think that he has done himself, his family or friends any favours by his publication of rather extreme and unfounded views. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedArmy Posted 6 April, 2022 Share Posted 6 April, 2022 34 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said: MLT hasn't been cancelled FFS. Tell me more about his job at sky sports that he must still have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 6 April, 2022 Share Posted 6 April, 2022 3 hours ago, RedArmy said: The tolerant left out in force again demanding he be cancelled because his views are intolerable. is it just people with left of centre politics that are unimpressed with his tweet about there being doubt about the atrocities in Ukraine? Also, have you confused `left' with `liberal'? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 6 April, 2022 Share Posted 6 April, 2022 2 minutes ago, RedArmy said: Tell me more about his job at sky sports that he must still have? I thought they sacked the whole pundit team in one hit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 6 April, 2022 Share Posted 6 April, 2022 2 hours ago, kwsaint said: Friends who have met MLT say that he comes across as very pleasant. Just wish he kept his opinions to himself. Spouting nonsense about things he knows little about is doing him no favours at all. And those of us who were fortunate to watch him play now think a lot less of him nice, but dim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnia Cherie Posted 6 April, 2022 Share Posted 6 April, 2022 As a footballer he was undoubtedly a legend but in recent years his views have become increasingly weird. He can have an opinion but these comments are best kept to himself. In the remarks he has made about the Ukraine, he should hang his head in shame. The Ukrainians are showing such strength and courage in the face of murder and wanton destruction from the Russian Army. Le Tissier is slowly but surely making himself an outcast. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnia Cherie Posted 6 April, 2022 Share Posted 6 April, 2022 3 minutes ago, skintsaint said: I thought they sacked the whole pundit team in one hit? Except for Paul Merson, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 6 April, 2022 Share Posted 6 April, 2022 12 minutes ago, RedArmy said: Tell me more about his job at sky sports that he must still have? The problem with that is it's a job predicated entirely on reputation and image. The likes of Tiss, Neville, Carra, Merson, Keane, Henry etc. are on there because they were reputable players at the top of their game. There are retired League 2 players who are just as knowledgeable, coherent and witty but they don't come with the same prestige and marketability. The problem is when you start sanding away at that reputation with tripe about COVID, massacres and Biden's laptop, kicking a football around 25 years ago is quickly forgotten about and your reputation becomes a liability, not a selling point. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedArmy Posted 6 April, 2022 Share Posted 6 April, 2022 8 minutes ago, skintsaint said: I thought they sacked the whole pundit team in one hit? That was one of his roles at sky. What about the rest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 6 April, 2022 Share Posted 6 April, 2022 2 hours ago, whelk said: Just seen his stepping down tweets. Wants to make it clear he does not advocate war - no one thought he was he just thinks everything that is covered is not happening. Shame he has gone so mental but glad he has stepped down as was an embarrassment Saying he "doesn't advocate war" does not correct or re-clarify his original post in any way. Its irrelevant in fact. He either stands by what he posted in that we should not trust what we are being told by the media about the atrocities in Ukraine, or he backtracks and says that he has no reason to doubt the reports. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 6 April, 2022 Share Posted 6 April, 2022 12 minutes ago, RedArmy said: Tell me more about his job at sky sports that he must still have? Did he use that as a platform to air his opinions? No. Sky took a commercial decision not to renew his contract, along with Charlie Nicholas and Phil Thompson at the same time. Were they all 'cancelled' then? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey Posted 6 April, 2022 Share Posted 6 April, 2022 5 hours ago, OldNick said: ' I don't know for sure that the Russians did it' surely means you are questioning the event? So you don't question ANYTHING and believe EVERYTHING you're told????🤔 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 6 April, 2022 Share Posted 6 April, 2022 42 minutes ago, RedArmy said: That was one of his roles at sky. What about the rest? Rest of what? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammysaint88 Posted 6 April, 2022 Share Posted 6 April, 2022 Other than posting something that thought provoking and 3/4 of what was said has been proved to be true what has he done wrong 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 6 April, 2022 Share Posted 6 April, 2022 Support Le Tiss on this one. He went too far with Covid. But he's right about the media, it's a manipulative bandwagon, especially when it comes to Foreign Policy. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 6 April, 2022 Share Posted 6 April, 2022 7 hours ago, OldNick said: Wow, you believe that there is a chance that the Ukrainians moved multiple dead bodies to areas to try and pin atrocities on the Russians? I assume you think they raped them as well. Ukraine had the moral high ground and most of the world behind them, to think they needed to stoop that low is incredible. Perhaps Im naive, but this is really far fetched Sadly this type of attitude is just what the Russians want to believe, their campaign of mis information is working. I was a resident of Salisbury, I witnessed how people thought that it was done by our own people, due to Russians use of social media. It seems their manipulation is working again. This guy is Scottish, not Russian: https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2021/04/pure-ten-points-i-just-cant-believe-about-the-official-skripal-narrative/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 6 April, 2022 Share Posted 6 April, 2022 12 minutes ago, Jonnyboy said: Support Le Tiss on this one. He went too far with Covid. But he's right about the media, it's a manipulative bandwagon, especially when it comes to Foreign Policy. I agree that a lot of the right wing press are manipulative and loads of peple are gullible and believe things which are completely untrue but surely it is obvious that Russia invaded Ukraine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 6 April, 2022 Share Posted 6 April, 2022 16 minutes ago, Jonnyboy said: Support Le Tiss on this one. He went too far with Covid. But he's right about the media, it's a manipulative bandwagon, especially when it comes to Foreign Policy. It’s not the media themselves, it’s the manipulators who are manipulating them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackedoff Posted 6 April, 2022 Share Posted 6 April, 2022 7 hours ago, Toadhall Saint said: Can you have an embarrassing legend? John Holmes ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsLoyal Posted 6 April, 2022 Share Posted 6 April, 2022 1 hour ago, Jonnyboy said: Support Le Tiss on this one. He went too far with Covid. But he's right about the media, it's a manipulative bandwagon, especially when it comes to Foreign Policy. You dont use the clear murder of thousands as an example. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swannymere Posted 6 April, 2022 Share Posted 6 April, 2022 On 05/04/2022 at 16:07, Convict Colony said: Topic should be MLT allowed to have an opinion and voice it or not. Everyone is allowed an opinion, i'd prefer it was an informed opinion but with that comes consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midfield_General Posted 6 April, 2022 Share Posted 6 April, 2022 8 hours ago, Toadhall Saint said: Can you have an embarrassing legend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streaky Posted 6 April, 2022 Share Posted 6 April, 2022 7 hours ago, sad saints fan said: I am not taking sides in this argument and I have no doubt that some very bad things have happened in occupied Ukraine but at the start of the conflict we saw pictures of civilian being issued with guns and being trained to use them . I admire their courage and willingness to defend their homeland . Anyone who has been in a combat situation will tell you that if some is shooting at you ,then they are the enemy and you shoot back and not check to see if they are military personnel first ,this COULD account for some of the civilian casualties. Open your eyes man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle04 Posted 6 April, 2022 Share Posted 6 April, 2022 3 hours ago, Jonnyboy said: Support Le Tiss on this one. He went too far with Covid. But he's right about the media, it's a manipulative bandwagon, especially when it comes to Foreign Policy. How so? If you're talking about newspapers you have a variety of viewpoints to choose from (Mail/Express v Guardian/Mirror for example). The TV news channels are broadly objective , social media is a chaotic free for all so where's the manipulation coming from? A few examples may back up your opinion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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