Saints Kits Season 2022/23

[CB Fry]

13 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

The Denmark half and half was absolutely tremendous. I find that mock up a complete abomination.

The 1976 mock up is a beauty though.

Agree x2

[Turkish]

9 hours ago, manji said:

If the denazification of Ukraine continues I reckon every club will have yellow and blue and a Rainbow kit as away.

it will save too much kneeling as well.

No names on the shirts for Alzheimer’s seems to be a thing now. Maybe a sad faced polar bear on the collar for awareness of climate change, a depressed looking jaguar on the sleeve to promote the end of deforestation in South America and maybe we can squeeze in an empty water bucket where the players names used to be to raise awareness of Ikebos 10 mile daily walk for clean water in Sudan

[John Boy Saint]

On 24/03/2022 at 23:43, djharvey said:

Concept!

Far and away my favourite kit - maybe influenced as it coincided with when I started going down the Saints - it’s a very smart stripe.

if that version means we don’t have to do the solid back to appease blind refs and stupid commentators all the better.

[The Kraken]

6 hours ago, adriansfc said:

Saints tended to be pretty boring with their stripes. We'll do a sash or change the width of stripes but that seems to be it. Never anything to crazy or memorable. Clubs like Inter and Atletico do way more with stripes. A red and white version of Inter's home this season would be awesome. Or something like the Red star paris away vice shirt last season. 

Feel like shirt design has moved on a bit, some clubs really make interesting stuff and others just get boring templates. Not sure how much say there is from the club or whether it's all manufacturer. But it's not all big clubs. The likes of Venezia and Club America do amazing stuff. 

With Saints a lot will come down to sponsor though. The black hummel this season is great, but ruined by that gambling sponsor. 

Agreed.  Our historical kits can be seen here.

http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Southampton/Southampton.htm

Commercialisation of kits really got going at roughly the same time shirt sponsorship kicked in. I’ve always loved the red and white 1976 kit, and also the rank xerox. Hummel/draper was our best stripes kit IMO. After that, I find pretty much all of our regular striped kits extremely boring. Some are really terrible (Pony and Under Armour especially) but the rest are just a history of averageness. The only times I’ve really liked our kits of late are when we deviate from the norm: the sash kits and the revived rank xerox were excellent (we’ll leave out the Cortese fuck ups as they should be stricken from history).

I’m coming to the conclusion that I’m fed up with stripes and wouldn’t mind a deviation away. Our side’s history and our formation were based on sides playing in sash, quarters and halves. Yes, for the true purists, Southampton football club started its days wearing red and white stripes, but our formative clubs played in those others. And times change. I’d go permanently red and white halves and make it ours, no other team in England’s top divisions have got that and it’s a real nod to our formative years. Mix it up with a sash and a quarters kits every now and then too. #sackoffthestripes

[Turkish]

18 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

Agreed.  Our historical kits can be seen here.

http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Southampton/Southampton.htm

Commercialisation of kits really got going at roughly the same time shirt sponsorship kicked in. I’ve always loved the red and white 1976 kit, and also the rank xerox. Hummel/draper was our best stripes kit IMO. After that, I find pretty much all of our regular striped kits extremely boring. Some are really terrible (Pony and Under Armour especially) but the rest are just a history of averageness. The only times I’ve really liked our kits of late are when we deviate from the norm: the sash kits and the revived rank xerox were excellent (we’ll leave out the Cortese fuck ups as they should be stricken from history).

I’m coming to the conclusion that I’m fed up with stripes and wouldn’t mind a deviation away. Our side’s history and our formation were based on sides playing in sash, quarters and halves. Yes, for the true purists, Southampton football club started its days wearing red and white stripes, but our formative clubs played in those others. And times change. I’d go permanently red and white halves and make it ours, no other team in England’s top divisions have got that and it’s a real nod to our formative years. Mix it up with a sash and a quarters kits every now and then too. #sackoffthestripes

Sash all the way for me. What is it about average sized, average cities beginning with S playing in red and white stripes? Sunderland, Sheffield United, Stoke, Saints. Come on Dragon, #sackthestripes

[Kenilworthy]

2 hours ago, Turkish said:

Sash all the way for me. What is it about average sized, average cities beginning with S playing in red and white stripes? Sunderland, Sheffield United, Stoke, Saints. Come on Dragon, #sackthestripes

I think someone from Sheffield would object to their City being described as average sized. It is (according to some measures) England's fourth largest city. Personally, I think the stripes must stay. But let's go back to navy blue shorts that will make us different to the other teams.

[Turkish]

18 minutes ago, Kenilworthy said:

I think someone from Sheffield would object to their City being described as average sized. It is (according to some measures) England's fourth largest city. Personally, I think the stripes must stay. But let's go back to navy blue shorts that will make us different to the other teams.

Fair point, Sheffield is a decent city, but as a club they’re bang average. One of about 25 that peak as a mid table primer league club but could also end up in league one quite easily. Funnily enough like the other 3 who wear red and white stripes and start with S

[Dman]

On 24/03/2022 at 23:43, djharvey said:

Concept!

Tops that are more white than red are always better. 
 

Basically, we need to be white and red, rather than red and white. 

[igsey]

So assuming Brentford stay up, there will be at least one other red/white striped team in the PL next season. Sheffield United could also come up, they're in the play-off spots at the moment, which would mean two others for us to try and stand apart from!

[Kenilworthy]

1 hour ago, igsey said:

So assuming Brentford stay up, there will be at least one other red/white striped team in the PL next season. Sheffield United could also come up, they're in the play-off spots at the moment, which would mean two others for us to try and stand apart from!

But Burnley, Villa and West Ham don't seem to have a problem with having near identical claret and blue kits most of the time

[Badger]

Looking at the Historical kits website, does anyone recall us playing in this variation of the 1976 kit ? 

I seem to recall seeing one player wearing it in the team photo (Austin Hayes I think) but don’t remember it being worn during a match. 

[John Boy Saint]

16 hours ago, Kenilworthy said:

. But let's go back to navy blue shorts that will make us different to the other teams.

I've thought the same for years - the only reason we binned them off was because as the season went on the Navy Blue Knickers (as shorts were referred to back then) got lighter and lighter in colour after each wash. Now that sports kit is made out of plastic bottles fading colour is a thing of the past.  

[Badger]

6 hours ago, Badger said:

Looking at the Historical kits website, does anyone recall us playing in this variation of the 1976 kit ? 

I seem to recall seeing one player wearing it in the team photo (Austin Hayes I think) but don’t remember it being worn during a match. 

May be able to answer part of my own question here having looked something up on youtube. 

 

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Channon and McCalliog wearing the shirts with three stripes, but Osgood and defenders in the two striped version. 

Good to see how good Channon looked in full flight, must ahve seen him round the keeper like that a few times. 

[Kenilworthy]

3 hours ago, Badger said:

May be able to answer part of my own question here having looked something up on youtube. 

 

Channon and McCalliog wearing the shirts with three stripes, but Osgood and defenders in the two striped version. 

Good to see how good Channon looked in full flight, must ahve seen him round the keeper like that a few times. 

I think it was mainly in Europe that the alternate version was worn. I guess that Osgood's was different because he was allergic to nylon and had special cotton shirts. By the next season all the shirts were standardised.

[JCBSaint]

On 27/03/2022 at 22:23, Dman said:

Tops that are more white than red are always better. 
 

Basically, we need to be white and red, rather than red and white. 

Have to agree. I personally like more white than red and def no silly red backs, the names and numbers in black wd stand out perfectly as has been the case in so many years gone by. I don’t know why we feel we need to persist with the type of back we do when there is no Europe to worry about. The newer version of the 70’s stripes is similar to a mock up of what I had designed for my own amusement, it just looks like saints!

[Thereisonlyonemickychannon]

On 24/03/2022 at 23:43, djharvey said:

Concept!

76/77 strip.

First time Saints made a change.

I can see Mick Channon doing the windmill.

What a player

[hypochondriac]

What kit do people prefer? Denmark circa '92 or Ajax current kit? 

[Ekelund24]

4 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

What kit do people prefer? Denmark circa '92 or Ajax current kit? 

The Denmark kit as a home one and maybe on the Ajax theme, a Craig David Holyrood estate third kit of brick and white hoops with a blue and white "Police" tape Sash?

[Roo1976]

On 24/03/2022 at 23:43, djharvey said:

Concept!

That dosnt look like JWP.............

[trousers]

5 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

What kit do people prefer? Denmark circa '92 or Ajax current kit? 

Is this a scenic route way of saying that you've heard what it is ..?

[Roo1976]

On 25/03/2022 at 18:50, Lighthouse said:

If we’re doing nostalgia, these were probably my favourite two from recent times.

Bought the green muvi one but love both...............

[CB Fry]

5 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

What kit do people prefer? Denmark circa '92 or Ajax current kit? 

Denmark when they won Euro 92 was red with white sleeves, and Ajax is just the wrong way round stripe wise.

So neither really. Both lack what I consider to be quite an important element for us which is black. Most of our very best home kits have an element of black in piping/pinstripes/etc.

Ajax with a bit of black maybe could work. I'd prefer a variation on Denmark 1986, or straight half and half, sash or quarters.

 

[Saint Garrett]

I'd quite like a rehash of one of these...whats the chances? Probably need to work out what 2022 is an anniversary of to start with. 10 years since promotion?  Personally, not a massive fan of the half/half, part pinstripe design.

Edited 31 March, 2022 by Saint Garrett

[revolution saint]

8 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

What kit do people prefer? Denmark circa '92 or Ajax current kit? 

Not the best examples of either kits but probably Ajax current one.  As someone else pointed out, kits that are more white than red seem to look better to me.

[hypochondriac]

38 minutes ago, revolution saint said:

Not the best examples of either kits but probably Ajax current one.  As someone else pointed out, kits that are more white than red seem to look better to me.

White with a wide red stripe. Wouldn't really be my choice but if we go for that then it could be worse. One thing for sure it isn't going to be the traditional red and white normal stripes this year. 

[Badger]

4 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

White with a wide red stripe. Wouldn't really be my choice but if we go for that then it could be worse. One thing for sure it isn't going to be the traditional red and white normal stripes this year. 

It’s a nice design, but the problem is that it will always be an Ajax shirt no matter what badge or sponsor you stick on it. Some people don’t like having the same stripes as other clubs. That’s preferable to just copying another club no matter how good it looks.

reverse the colours to the Keegan era kit, and perfect (in my mind anyway).

Failing the KK shirt, halves or quarters would be a decent change. 

[trousers]

1 hour ago, hypochondriac said:

One thing for sure it isn't going to be the traditional red and white normal stripes this year. 

Source?

[Toadhall Saint]

On 31/03/2022 at 03:35, hypochondriac said:

What kit do people prefer? Denmark circa '92 or Ajax current kit? 

Ajax 3rd kit tbh but if pushed Denmark.

[Matthew Le God]

On 31/03/2022 at 03:35, hypochondriac said:

What kit do people prefer? Denmark circa '92 or Ajax current kit? 

This is Denmark in 1992...

(Did you mean the Denmark 1986 kit that was the template Saints used shortly afterwards?)

Below is Saints 1987 to 1989 and Denmark World Cup 1986...

Edited 1 April, 2022 by Matthew Le God

[The Kraken]

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Edited 2 April, 2022 by The Kraken

[hypochondriac]

22 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

This is Denmark in 1992...

(Did you mean the Denmark 1986 kit that was the template Saints used shortly afterwards?)

Below is Saints 1987 to 1989 and Denmark World Cup 1986...

Solid red so the first one. No guarantees that's the design though. Personally I think an Ajax version would be better if those are the choices. 

[Badger]

36 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Solid red so the first one. No guarantees that's the design though. Personally I think an Ajax version would be better if those are the choices. 

Yes, but it's pretty poor if these are the choices the club come up with. Perhaps the club would be better placed to go back to the old route of canvassing a vote from supporters.

[trousers]

1 hour ago, hypochondriac said:

Solid red so the first one. No guarantees that's the design though. Personally I think an Ajax version would be better if those are the choices. 

I'm not entirely sure if you already know what the kit is and you're thinly disguising your inside knowledge by posing rhetorical questions, or if you know nothing and are asking genuine questions based on what you think it might be. Given you've ducked answering my previous quizzical questions in this regard, my money's on the former...

p.s. where's @Harold K Steptoe to confirm matters....?

Edited 1 April, 2022 by trousers

[bpsaint]

If it is stripes I hope we do away with the plain backs.

[The Kraken]

Aside from the Cortese kit disasters, we’ve not really had a proper recreation of the centenary kit.

I’ll admit I was never a big fan of it first time round, but there’s likely to be some scope to do something decent (Hummel have done a red and red stripe recently).

[The Kraken]

This was a mock up done last year but the red and white halves idea is very much my favourite and I’d love for us to adopt it on a more permanent basis.

Edited 2 April, 2022 by The Kraken

[Toadhall Saint]

1 hour ago, The Kraken said:

This was a mock up done last year but the red and white halves idea is very much my favourite and I’d love for us to adopt it on a more permanent basis.

Yep like that & the third is cool

[Badger]

2 hours ago, The Kraken said:

Aside from the Cortese kit disasters, we’ve not really had a proper recreation of the centenary kit.

I’ll admit I was never a big fan of it first time round, but there’s likely to be some scope to do something decent (Hummel have done a red and red stripe recently).

Considered it awful at the time, and time has done nothing to improve it. One of our worst kits in my view.

[hypochondriac]

If the kit was white with a wide red stripe how would everyone feel? That sounds like not a bad kit to me. 

[CB Fry]

11 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

If the kit was white with a wide red stripe how would everyone feel? That sounds like not a bad kit to me. 

Dean Richards/Hassan Kachloul vibes.

[trousers]

17 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

If the kit was white with a wide red stripe how would everyone feel? That sounds like not a bad kit to me. 

Are you asking or telling us...?

[Harold K Steptoe]

On 01/04/2022 at 21:13, trousers said:

I'm not entirely sure if you already know what the kit is and you're thinly disguising your inside knowledge by posing rhetorical questions, or if you know nothing and are asking genuine questions based on what you think it might be. Given you've ducked answering my previous quizzical questions in this regard, my money's on the former...

p.s. where's @Harold K Steptoe to confirm matters....?

Soon

Edited 1 June, 2022 by Harold K Steptoe

[Badger]

2 hours ago, CB Fry said:

Dean Richards/Hassan Kachloul vibes.

Edited 18 April, 2022 by Badger

[Badger]

Thought the Richard’s era kit pretty average at the time, and hope for something better this time round.

[St David 46]

On 01/04/2022 at 21:56, bpsaint said:

If it is stripes I hope we do away with the plain backs.

Hear hear! When Saints released a kit for the 2016 Europa League, as I understand it, UEFA rules stipulated that all kits had to have a plain back. This kit also had thinner stripes on the front. Unfortunately, once again, Saints don't look like they're going to qualify for European competition for next season. So please, please, please don't have the plain backs if the front is stripes. These shirts look like, those awful half&half shirts that tourists buy outside grounds.

[trousers]

On 18/04/2022 at 20:34, Harold K Steptoe said:

Soon hopefully

Cheers Harold! (it would appear that @hypochondriac already knows what the kit is but is a little too shy to explicity admit it... )

Edited 22 April, 2022 by trousers

[Christophenburg]

I'm 100% in the ditch the stripes camp - nothing original or remotely marketable about something seemingly half the other teams in England wear. Would much prefer the traditional sash or an early 80s single stripe. That said 88/Denmark kit would be a nice change

[Saintbone]

Danish 83 shirt remake released

[JCBSaint]

On 27/04/2022 at 09:19, Saintbone said:

Danish 83 shirt remake released

Mmmmm Liverpool, Man Utd, Forest…. I could go on … slightly two toned stripes design  so mayb that would work with white    stripes, aslong as it’s not a plain back! 

[alehouseboys]

Atletico Madrid's red and white stripes are.....interesting.............

https://www.footyheadlines.com/2021/05/atletico-madrid-22-23-home-kit-leaked.html

...or am I pissed?