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kyle04

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I agree with most here, theres little to play for in the league - were not going down or getting into Europe either. At full strength and all performing well, we have an outside chance. If Walcott plays we are effectively down to 10 men from the start, if 4 or 5 first other teamers are left out, including FF, we're into giant killing mode. We have a chance of a rare Wembley outing, and possibly once in a generation glory, we must give ourselves the best chance possible, we've nothing to lose.

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Noodles34

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29 minutes ago, kyle04 said:

I agree with most here, theres little to play for in the league - were not going down or getting into Europe either. At full strength and all performing well, we have an outside chance. If Walcott plays we are effectively down to 10 men from the start, if 4 or 5 first other teamers are left out, including FF, we're into giant killing mode. We have a chance of a rare Wembley outing, and possibly once in a generation glory, we must give ourselves the best chance possible, we've nothing to lose.

Once in a generation? We’ve been there twice in the last five years. 

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For a club that has a single FA Cup to it's name, which is so depressing, we should take every cup game seriously. To give ourselves the best possible shot we need to play our best players, we're not exactly blessed with world beaters.

I can understand the loyalty Ralph has to players such as Long etc, seeing as he got us through against Swansea, but this time last year he was away at Bournemouth and pretty much done as a PL player. We didn't care too much for him then. You need to be ruthless, not just play players because they're good lads.

I had the same complaint about Poch when he pissed up the league cup against Sunderland, that season was a huge chance for us too. 

I want to see a core of Forster, Broja, KWP, JWP, Romeu, Adams, Salisu etc all starting. Otherwise what's the point. You can't even use the 'Resting for PL' argument here, as we don't have another fricking game until April.

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Dark Munster

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Willy is a decent back up, given our circumstances. But clearly FF is the better goalie, so it makes zero sense to drop him for an inferior backup against City. Not as bad as dropping Stu Armstrong for Walcott, but that's not the point. Anything less than the best (fit) 11 is mental, except maybe a decent starting 11 with a strong backup to bring on in the second half (for example, save Broja for the second half/extra time). The starting 11 we had for West Ham would be suicidal against one of the best teams in the world.

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Teddeer

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If Ralph wants to give fringe players game time then do it in league matches not our most important fixture this season. City will probably beat whatever side we put out but let's at least give ourselves a fighting chance by starting with the best we have.

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46 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

You don't understand the technical nature of the role well enough to possibly say that.

I know technically I would have made a better claim for that cross against West Ham even after 6 pints. 

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I said after the West Ham match that it should be Caballero’s last match here. End on a high, a win and his final bit of action was a good save. Rather than, being remembered as the what if Forster had started against City player. Indeed, Forster could also make a mistake tomorrow, but Caballero is far more liable. He cost us a goal against West Ham and indeed, his final good save was also a result of another cock up from himself. Fortunately, it didn’t cost us then, but it will against City. 

No room for sentimentality at this stage. 

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CB Fry

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1 hour ago, LiberalCommunist said:

Never been less enthusiastic for a quarter final. 

Shit form. Man City. Mike Dean. The perfect storm. 

Unfortunately it feels like it is going to be the most rudimentary of wins for the away team. Ralph doesn't give a flying fuck about this tournament, it's not what pays his bonus. It's just a method to throw a first team bone for fringe players. 

Fringe players like a 40 year old free signing brought in from doing kickabouts at Kingstonian to cover an injury crisis. 

Getting through to the next round isn't about trying to win a trophy, or even getting to a final. It's oh good, another match I can piss about with an experimental team in.

The West Ham win gives him the moral authority to pull that stunt again. 

Looking forward to the 2pm team announcement!

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Saint Matty 76

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2 hours ago, S-Clarke said:

For a club that has a single FA Cup to it's name, which is so depressing, we should take every cup game seriously. To give ourselves the best possible shot we need to play our best players, we're not exactly blessed with world beaters.

I can understand the loyalty Ralph has to players such as Long etc, seeing as he got us through against Swansea, but this time last year he was away at Bournemouth and pretty much done as a PL player. We didn't care too much for him then. You need to be ruthless, not just play players because they're good lads.

I had the same complaint about Poch when he pissed up the league cup against Sunderland, that season was a huge chance for us too. 

I want to see a core of Forster, Broja, KWP, JWP, Romeu, Adams, Salisu etc all starting. Otherwise what's the point. You can't even use the 'Resting for PL' argument here, as we don't have another fricking game until April.

Spot on.

We'll never win this cup holding sentiment for the players who did well in the earlier rounds.

I said it at the time but I worry the ease of West Ham is going to make him believe it's doable, which against City it simply isn't.

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I want to see Jack Stephens over Bednarek. Bednarek has been poor lately IMO and I think it is affecting Salisu's game a bit. Jack Stephens is far from perfect but he has a bit of WUM about him and is able to get in player's faces and I think we need that bit of shithousery tomorrow. Aside from that the main guys I want to see included are KWP, Salisu, JWP, Romeu, Armstrong, Adams and maybe even Broja. Forster over Caballero if possible. I'm not fussed between Livramento and Perraud for the other full back spot (but Perraud gives us good balance down that side), Redmond or Elyounoussi for the other 10 spot.

 

So something like

 

Forster

KWP

Stephens

Salisu

Perraud

JWP

Romeu

Armstrong

Redmond

Adams

Broja

 

would be my pick for line up. Not that it will be, we all know Ralph will do something odd.

 

It will be sad to go out the competition if we do, but I at least want to see us put up a fight, maybe give City an early scare or something. Despite our last three results, let's give our fans some pride on national TV.

 

Of course if we win... Sexy Jessica Alba GIF

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Dr Who?

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With this being our only game in a 3 week spell, if the first team is not out on that pitch giving their all, I will not be happy. This is our chance. Win it and there will be no reason not to go all the way. Lose it and it is season over…

 

 

… Well another league win would be nice, and soon please. 

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3 hours ago, S-Clarke said:

For a club that has a single FA Cup to it's name, which is so depressing, we should take every cup game seriously. To give ourselves the best possible shot we need to play our best players, we're not exactly blessed with world beaters.

I can understand the loyalty Ralph has to players such as Long etc, seeing as he got us through against Swansea, but this time last year he was away at Bournemouth and pretty much done as a PL player. We didn't care too much for him then. You need to be ruthless, not just play players because they're good lads.

I had the same complaint about Poch when he pissed up the league cup against Sunderland, that season was a huge chance for us too. 

I want to see a core of Forster, Broja, KWP, JWP, Romeu, Adams, Salisu etc all starting. Otherwise what's the point. You can't even use the 'Resting for PL' argument here, as we don't have another fricking game until April.

Spot on, let’s see what he picks. Even with the strongest side including the core you outline above, City probably win 8 times out of 10 but that core is unbeaten against them this season, you have to maximise the chance you have. If Ralph throws the game to Pep effectively with another random line up, I think that’s him done with the bulk of our supporters. Let’s hope Ralph has his more rational head on tomorrow and picks our strongest available. If we give it a very good go and KDB scores the winner with a 30 yard worldie, no complaints. All we ever ask is for the players and management to give their best and Dec to March they certainly were. It’s slipped badly in the last three games, time to crank the intensity and the energy levels back up.

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alehouseboys

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11 hours ago, Pilchards said:

Ralph is playing it all down by saying he’s picking a squad team.

This way he’s hoping City do the same before he names all our big guns to start the match.

I thought he was bluffing before the West Ham tie and seriously thought he'd go strong and was as shocked as everyone with the starting 11....OK it surprisingly worked that time. But...surely...against City you can't fook around?

Having said that, I think we will go mostly strong but can see him bunging in Caballero, benching Broja and going with Adam Armstrong (must have been holding him back last weekend if he couldn't get off the bench in front of Longy).

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allsa001

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Hi all, just on my way down to my first home game (usually only make it to London away games).  Just wondering if you could give a bit of advice. 

 

I'll be getting the train into Southampton central, and just wondering what pubs are going to have a good atmosphere. Hoping to get in around 12.

 

I went for an eticket, can I just show this on my phone, as I forgot to print out, or do I need to talk to the ticket office at the ground? 

 

Many thanks

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Totton Saint

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12 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

My team 

Willy 

KwP Stephens Valery djenepo 

JwP smallbone 

Tella Redmond (or Walcott)

Long A.Armstrong 

 

We must rest everyone else., International games and all that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I doubt that a fair amount of your choice can be match fit. Hey but stranger things happen at sea (re. our chances of winning.)

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Saint Billy

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14 hours ago, LiberalCommunist said:

Never been less enthusiastic for a quarter final. 

Shit form. Man City. Mike Dean. The perfect storm. 

Agree with that, I'm trying but I am just not getting motivated for this game. Perhaps it's the current state of the world we live in at the moment that is pushing this game into irrelevance or it may be that I fear Ralph may cock this up by not putting out his best side. 

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15 hours ago, Dark Munster said:

Willy is a decent back up, given our circumstances. But clearly FF is the better goalie, so it makes zero sense to drop him for an inferior backup against City. Not as bad as dropping Stu Armstrong for Walcott, but that's not the point. Anything less than the best (fit) 11 is mental, except maybe a decent starting 11 with a strong backup to bring on in the second half (for example, save Broja for the second half/extra time). The starting 11 we had for West Ham would be suicidal against one of the best teams in the world.

Walcott isn't even good enough to be a sub, when even share long is 100% more effective, what does that say about walcott?

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5 minutes ago, Totton Saint said:

Let's hope we get decent commentators. They were not good in the chelsea match.

Prime time BBC 1? No chance, it'll be someone with their tongue so far up Pep's arse you'll have trouble hearing what they say.

Murphy or Keown probably

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1 hour ago, Mr X said:

Walcott isn't even good enough to be a sub, when even share long is 100% more effective, what does that say about walcott?

All it says is that he is near the end of a great career, begun here and finishing here. Be proud of him

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With Mike Dean as ref I'll be happily surprised if Saints make it to half time with 11 still on the pitch.

I find myself strangely relaxed about this game. That's what Saints' recent form and expectation of an almost certain exit from the FA Cup does I guess.

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Hopefully we can get on top early on and grab an early goal and sit and hold on to it - just as we did in that game after lockdown when Che scored that worldy :) 2-1 to us Adam Armstrong ( I so want Arma to score today) and Prowsey with the goals :) let's do this - COYR :)

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26 minutes ago, obelisk said:

With Mike Dean as ref I'll be happily surprised if Saints make it to half time with 11 still on the pitch.

I find myself strangely relaxed about this game. That's what Saints' recent form and expectation of an almost certain exit from the FA Cup does I guess.

Yes, we all expect Mike Dean to award at least a red card or a penalty against us today. There are rumours he is retiring at the end of the season so no matter what he does, he won't fear any repercussions. But, let's hope that today is the day he really shocks us and shows he isn't really biased against us, even though 2 red cards against us seems more likely. 

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