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ErwinK1961

ErwinK1961

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1 hour ago, S-Clarke said:

I've always found Sheldons features/articles a bit... ''well, yeah I knew that....why did I just read this for 5 mins? I've learned nothing new''

Carl Anka was on a different level with his content.

On this specific one it's another non article with means nothing and tells us nothing new, as clubs have been doing this for all time. Why our own reporter has decided to specifically name and shame us is beyond me though.

I think it’s the difference between a writer who is a huge football fan and clearly has a passion for the detail, tactics etc (Carl) and one who is just doing it for a job (Dan).

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DT

DT

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god forbid if we get a penalty decision in that period now - refs will be averse to giving them for us. can't see why they can't carry gels in their shorts tbh; take a leaf out of cyclists' books

Micky

Micky

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Why is this even a story? 

The FA have said we have done nothing wrong.  When one of our players goes down what is the opposition doing, still running around the pitch at match levels, or are they resting too...???  Can the opposition go to the bench and get tactical information and take on gels as well...???  Why are these breaks, manufactured or not, only beneficial to Saints and not the opponents as well?

Non story.

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John Boy Saint

John Boy Saint

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Knowing we have a lazy journalist in our midst - maybe some among us should remember the old WWII message "Loose Lips Sink Ship" and not spout forth when they spot a bit of slippery shithousing is being used by Saints - pretty sure that this nugget of a story was spawned from someone uttering "has anyone else noticed.................."  some weeks ago.

We should all get in on spouting some complete believable but false cobblers on here and give it some legs , kill the thread stone dead, then wait for it to pop up in a few weeks in whatever rag.

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64saint

64saint

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1 hour ago, John Boy Saint said:

 

We should all get in on spouting some complete believable but false cobblers on here and give it some legs , kill the thread stone dead, then wait for it to pop up in a few weeks in whatever rag.

Ralph's signed a contract already with Man U for start of next season my reliable source has informed me.   

 

Wonder if that will pop up in the Sun in a few weeks !!      😉

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Whitey Grandad

Whitey Grandad

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4 minutes ago, Marsdinho said:

Trouble is, now our secret is out all other clubs around the world will be deploying the tactic, hoping that they too will be as successful as us. 

We can’t all be successful. They’ll just have to wait their turn :)

Nordic Saint

Nordic Saint

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7 hours ago, Uncle Albert said:

Sheldons actually a bit annoying, seems like he’s doing the job for the passion of journalism, without any passion for football.

The only passion a Pompey fan is going to feel for Southampton is a passionate hatred. I wonder if The Athletic also has a Millwall fan reporting on West Ham and an Everton fan reporting on Liverpool?

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Uncle Albert

Uncle Albert

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On 18/02/2022 at 18:45, Nordic Saint said:

The only passion a Pompey fan is going to feel for Southampton is a passionate hatred. I wonder if The Athletic also has a Millwall fan reporting on West Ham and an Everton fan reporting on Liverpool?

Didn’t know he was a skate, all makes sense now…

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OldNick

OldNick

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On 18/02/2022 at 18:45, Nordic Saint said:

The only passion a Pompey fan is going to feel for Southampton is a passionate hatred. I wonder if The Athletic also has a Millwall fan reporting on West Ham and an Everton fan reporting on Liverpool?

I think he needs to make a statement if this is the case or not. If he doesnt the rumour will get bigger and his job will be untenable. Strange that Totalpodcast have him on if this is the case, but to be fair I dont think he shows a bias against us, and was surprised when I first saw this accusation

The Cat

The Cat

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Weird how when one of our players goes down we are the only team who benefit from it.

Can't say I've noticed the opposition break out into shuttle runs up and down the pitch while we have an injury. 

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Saint_lambden

Saint_lambden

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Interestingly, when Adams went down for treatment during this period of the Everton game, Coleman was going mad at the referee. Presumably he was saying that it's not a real injury etc. Suspect more and more opposition will remonstrate on the field about it now but nothing the referees can do about it really as they cannot just play on, assuming it's a 'fake' injury at the risk that it is genuine. 

Saint86

Saint86

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Sheldon's articles rarely add anything, but in this case he's probably damaged the team's chances... An odd move for someone whose job is to write material for saints fans... 

Ah well, i suppose he's got his name out there and garnered some attention for himself, who cares about saints.

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wild-saint

wild-saint

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“The fourth official will now be aware of them preparing for this stoppage. Then he can alert the referee. The referees as a group need to be aware of this.

That’s hilarious, will the 4th official be looking at our coaches and think ahh he is moving the box that contains water bottles and energy gels closer to the touch line and at that moment start to try and determine if an injury 30mtrs away is legitimate. This whole story is ridiculous and there is absolutely no way anyone anyone can ever decide if an injury is ensuing or not. What exactly can the referee do about it, not allow a trainer on when a player is down?

Dr Who?

Dr Who?

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Just introduce a 2 minute stoppage as close to 67.5 minutes for players to take on energy products. Problem solved. 

on the other note just bloody book those that twine at the referee. 

OldNick

OldNick

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8 hours ago, Saint_lambden said:

Interestingly, when Adams went down for treatment during this period of the Everton game, Coleman was going mad at the referee. Presumably he was saying that it's not a real injury etc. Suspect more and more opposition will remonstrate on the field about it now but nothing the referees can do about it really as they cannot just play on, assuming it's a 'fake' injury at the risk that it is genuine. 

There is the concern that refs may now play on if they feel this is a ruse. I assume when Dan Sheldon first put this out that whoever told him that it was ok to make this open.

Toadhall Saint

Toadhall Saint

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8 hours ago, Saint_lambden said:

Interestingly, when Adams went down for treatment during this period of the Everton game, Coleman was going mad at the referee. Presumably he was saying that it's not a real injury etc. Suspect more and more opposition will remonstrate on the field about it now but nothing the referees can do about it really as they cannot just play on, assuming it's a 'fake' injury at the risk that it is genuine. 

Then the EFC trainers started handing out water/drinks to their players. As far as I can make out no other club has complained.

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Jimmy_D

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5 hours ago, wild-saint said:

“The fourth official will now be aware of them preparing for this stoppage. Then he can alert the referee. The referees as a group need to be aware of this.

That’s hilarious, will the 4th official be looking at our coaches and think ahh he is moving the box that contains water bottles and energy gels closer to the touch line and at that moment start to try and determine if an injury 30mtrs away is legitimate. This whole story is ridiculous and there is absolutely no way anyone anyone can ever decide if an injury is ensuing or not. What exactly can the referee do about it, not allow a trainer on when a player is down?

It’s happened in 14/24 games. We’re not manufacturing stoppages to make this happen, we’re just taking advantage of genuine stoppages that happen in that time. It’s a good time to take on fuel and fluids as they’ll kick in for the last few minutes of the game.

It’s ridiculous that this is even a story.

 

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Puffin Blades

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I agree with Keith Hackett, players should not have the right to rehydrate during a match. It’s ridiculous that this is still allowed. Also managers shouldn’t be able to talk to anyone in-game for fear of influencing or match fixing. Physios and medical staff should be band. If a player is injured, just play round them. And God forbid, if a defibrillator is found at any ground, there should be a points deduction!

Games gone soft. 

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Weston Super Saint

Weston Super Saint

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Complete non story!

https://www.runnersneed.com/expert-advice/nutrition-and-hydration/energy-gels.html#:~:text=One gel provides about 45,attempts to process the sugar.

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Energy gels contain about 25g of carbohydrates per gel, in the form of simple sugars, an accessible energy source for your body to process. One gel provides about 45 minutes of running but taking two at a time doesn’t mean you’ll have 90 minutes of running, instead you’re likely to crash as your body attempts to process the sugar.

Also, this bit is important :

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The perfect time to take an energy gels depends on you and your body. Every runner absorbs and processes carbohydrates at a different rate; some can feel the effect within 3 minutes while for others it might take up to 15 minutes.

 

So taking on a gel during half time will give enough of a boost for the second half.

Fergie time might come in to play, but the effects should be negligible for those that are supposed to be professional athletes.

Dorchester Saint

Dorchester Saint

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On 20/02/2022 at 16:30, Patches O Houlihan said:

Dan Sheldon is a Man U fan. Not sure whether I picked that up from the Echo, TSP or The Athletic but I've come across multiple references.

He has claimed several times on TSP that he doesn’t support a particular team actually…

Dr Who?

Dr Who?

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4 hours ago, Puffin Blades said:

I agree with Keith Hackett, players should not have the right to rehydrate during a match. It’s ridiculous that this is still allowed. Also managers shouldn’t be able to talk to anyone in-game for fear of influencing or match fixing. Physios and medical staff should be band. If a player is injured, just play round them. And God forbid, if a defibrillator is found at any ground, there should be a points deduction!

Games gone soft. 

The Rolling Stones? 

Puffin Blades

Puffin Blades

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15 hours ago, Dr Who? said:

The Rolling Stones? 

Ha, that will teach me for posting in a rush and not proofreading!

Thank you for highlighting that, it was indeed meant to be banned.

Goodnesses, I hope we can all sleep better now that’s over!

Nordic Saint

Nordic Saint

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On 22/02/2022 at 20:43, Dorchester Saint said:

He has claimed several times on TSP that he doesn’t support a particular team actually…

I wouldn't always believe what journalists say, especially football reporters from Portsmouth who write about Saints.

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