Summer 2022 Transfer Window

[Pilchards]

What are your thoughts of the Luton manager?

Good replacement for Ralph perhaps?

[Badger]

7 minutes ago, Pilchards said:

What are your thoughts of the Luton manager?

Good replacement for Ralph perhaps?

What  prompted that obscure question ?

[Convict Colony]

10 minutes ago, Pilchards said:

What are your thoughts of the Luton manager?

Good replacement for Ralph perhaps?

I know this very well as my mate is a massive luton fan so been hearing about nathan jones for a while.

he does a great job with luton in L1 and Championship, failed massively when he left them to go to Stoke and quickly got sacked.  I think he is the sort of manager who does well where teams dont have high expectations, so on that basis he's probably great but I'd wager his in the paul sturrock league.

Edited 24 June, 2022 by Convict Colony

[Croissaint]

Anyone else feeling a little pessimistic? Not wetting the bed, in-fact have just bought my first season ticket in years.

But - I can see 3/4 exits and very little happening with real impact players, building a defence around Salisu is scary in my opinion - he was "available" at best last season....

It's all very exciting with some fast transfers in. But it feels similar to Tino, Small and Simeu - promising young players who will do well on loan and might come into the team in the cups alongside Tella and Diallo, but are we going to "Overhaul" the squad without a Newcastle level investment??

We surely don't have the budget for a 10+ goal scorer. Looking at the table of Goal scorers last Season -JWP was on level terms on 10 Goals with - Antonio, Fernandes, Smith Rowe, Richarlison - None of whom are anywhere near the the type of player profile we can afford to buy, Slightly up the table, Mahrez, Mount, Maddison........... Further out of reach. 

I'd love it if i was wrong, but I cannot see goals, or an impact in defence.

If Prowsey does go - I'd be really worried. 

 

 

[The Left Back]

11 minutes ago, Croissaint said:

Anyone else feeling a little pessimistic? Not wetting the bed, in-fact have just bought my first season ticket in years.

But - I can see 3/4 exits and very little happening with real impact players, building a defence around Salisu is scary in my opinion - he was "available" at best last season....

It's all very exciting with some fast transfers in. But it feels similar to Tino, Small and Simeu - promising young players who will do well on loan and might come into the team in the cups alongside Tella and Diallo, but are we going to "Overhaul" the squad without a Newcastle level investment??

We surely don't have the budget for a 10+ goal scorer. Looking at the table of Goal scorers last Season -JWP was on level terms on 10 Goals with - Antonio, Fernandes, Smith Rowe, Richarlison - None of whom are anywhere near the the type of player profile we can afford to buy, Slightly up the table, Mahrez, Mount, Maddison........... Further out of reach. 

I'd love it if i was wrong, but I cannot see goals, or an impact in defence.

If Prowsey does go - I'd be really worried. 

 

 

You're look at the wrong table.  If you had looked at that table over the last 10 years you wouldn't have seen Lambert, Pelle or Ings.  Whether we can find a striker who can score 10 goals, or get one of our existing to improve in that way, is a different question.  But for sure we won't be finding him from last year's PL leading goals scorers. I expect us to sign someone or perhaps 2, whose primary job will be to score goals for us, and I still expect Adams and Armstrong to chip in with 5-10 each.

Glad you got your first season ticket in years; enjoy the ride.  I'm actually feeling happier today that I renewed than I was on the day I did it.  And it's still not July.  

[AlexLaw76]

Walcott and Redmond could also be leaving.

Edited 24 June, 2022 by AlexLaw76

[Croissaint]

7 minutes ago, The Left Back said:

You're look at the wrong table.  If you had looked at that table over the last 10 years you wouldn't have seen Lambert, Pelle or Ings.  Whether we can find a striker who can score 10 goals, or get one of our existing to improve in that way, is a different question.  But for sure we won't be finding him from last year's PL leading goals scorers. I expect us to sign someone or perhaps 2, whose primary job will be to score goals for us, and I still expect Adams and Armstrong to chip in with 5-10 each.

Glad you got your first season ticket in years; enjoy the ride.  I'm actually feeling happier today that I renewed than I was on the day I did it.  And it's still not July.  

Yes!! and it's all part of the ride! 

I guess I'm just looking at the types of transfers we're making and thinking; Can Che, A.Armstrong or someone we sign, have the impact of that calibre of player in the Premier League? Do we put all our eggs in one basket on a £20m+ Striker or overhaul the front 4 looking for 7ish goals from each position? Can you get the quality of player within our budget anymore...... Thats more my concern I guess. 

City had no main man last season, I wonder if we're better not bothering with a large chunk on a striker and signing a few other positions as a priority.

It's all speculation anyway, Im no expert! 

[Chez]

46 minutes ago, Croissaint said:

Anyone else feeling a little pessimistic? Not wetting the bed, in-fact have just bought my first season ticket in years.

But - I can see 3/4 exits and very little happening with real impact players, building a defence around Salisu is scary in my opinion - he was "available" at best last season....

It's all very exciting with some fast transfers in. But it feels similar to Tino, Small and Simeu - promising young players who will do well on loan and might come into the team in the cups alongside Tella and Diallo, but are we going to "Overhaul" the squad without a Newcastle level investment??

We surely don't have the budget for a 10+ goal scorer. Looking at the table of Goal scorers last Season -JWP was on level terms on 10 Goals with - Antonio, Fernandes, Smith Rowe, Richarlison - None of whom are anywhere near the the type of player profile we can afford to buy, Slightly up the table, Mahrez, Mount, Maddison........... Further out of reach. 

I'd love it if i was wrong, but I cannot see goals, or an impact in defence.

If Prowsey does go - I'd be really worried. 

If JWP left, wouldn't that money be exactly what is required to try and sign the type of player you want (to overhaul the squad) - ie not a youngster with potential, but more of an existing talent perhaps from abroad?

Unless of course the money we are currently spending on youngsters with potential IS the JWP money...

[Chez]

30 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Walcott and Redmond could also be leaving.

I can see suitors for Redmond (whether or not he's interested in them is a different matter), but I do wonder who is talking Walcott off our hands -unless we are paying 75% of his wages for the last year if his contract.

[le_tiss]

57 minutes ago, Croissaint said:

Anyone else feeling a little pessimistic? Not wetting the bed, in-fact have just bought my first season ticket in years.

But - I can see 3/4 exits and very little happening with real impact players, building a defence around Salisu is scary in my opinion - he was "available" at best last season....

It's all very exciting with some fast transfers in. But it feels similar to Tino, Small and Simeu - promising young players who will do well on loan and might come into the team in the cups alongside Tella and Diallo, but are we going to "Overhaul" the squad without a Newcastle level investment??

We surely don't have the budget for a 10+ goal scorer. Looking at the table of Goal scorers last Season -JWP was on level terms on 10 Goals with - Antonio, Fernandes, Smith Rowe, Richarlison - None of whom are anywhere near the the type of player profile we can afford to buy, Slightly up the table, Mahrez, Mount, Maddison........... Further out of reach. 

I'd love it if i was wrong, but I cannot see goals, or an impact in defence.

If Prowsey does go - I'd be really worried. 

 

 

 

 

you are going to fit in here like a shoe 

[Bad Wolf]

59 minutes ago, Croissaint said:

Anyone else feeling a little pessimistic? Not wetting the bed, in-fact have just bought my first season ticket in years.

But - I can see 3/4 exits and very little happening with real impact players, building a defence around Salisu is scary in my opinion - he was "available" at best last season....

It's all very exciting with some fast transfers in. But it feels similar to Tino, Small and Simeu - promising young players who will do well on loan and might come into the team in the cups alongside Tella and Diallo, but are we going to "Overhaul" the squad without a Newcastle level investment??

We surely don't have the budget for a 10+ goal scorer. Looking at the table of Goal scorers last Season -JWP was on level terms on 10 Goals with - Antonio, Fernandes, Smith Rowe, Richarlison - None of whom are anywhere near the the type of player profile we can afford to buy, Slightly up the table, Mahrez, Mount, Maddison........... Further out of reach. 

I'd love it if i was wrong, but I cannot see goals, or an impact in defence.

If Prowsey does go - I'd be really worried. 

 

 

No, quite the opposite. This has been the best start to a transfer window in actual decades.

[Bad Wolf]

10 minutes ago, Chez said:

I can see suitors for Redmond (whether or not he's interested in them is a different matter), but I do wonder who is talking Walcott off our hands -unless we are paying 75% of his wages for the last year if his contract.

MLS apparently. He'd do well over there.

[Chez]

12 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said:

MLS apparently. He'd do well over there.

Ah yes, I did hear the MLS mentioned before. That might be a good move. I hope he is successful. He's a proper Saint.

[VectisSaint]

1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Walcott and Redmond could also be leaving.

Is this some sort of time warp? Surely we were told this week's ago. Perhaps they are getting worried that no one is in for Walcott yet, rumours were he was looking to go MLS. 

[Bad Wolf]

12 minutes ago, Chez said:

Ah yes, I did hear the MLS mentioned before. That might be a good move. I hope he is successful. He's a proper Saint.

I'd love him to stay on as part of the B team, mentoring the kids like Olly Lancashire but obviously not for his current wages.

[Pamplemousse]

1 hour ago, The Left Back said:

You're look at the wrong table.  If you had looked at that table over the last 10 years you wouldn't have seen Lambert, Pelle or Ings.  Whether we can find a striker who can score 10 goals, or get one of our existing to improve in that way, is a different question.  But for sure we won't be finding him from last year's PL leading goals scorers. I expect us to sign someone or perhaps 2, whose primary job will be to score goals for us, and I still expect Adams and Armstrong to chip in with 5-10 each.

Glad you got your first season ticket in years; enjoy the ride.  I'm actually feeling happier today that I renewed than I was on the day I did it.  And it's still not July.  

If Adams could finish he'd be a top striker. He missed so many sitters last season.

[Convict Colony]

1 hour ago, Croissaint said:

Anyone else feeling a little pessimistic? Not wetting the bed, in-fact have just bought my first season ticket in years.

But - I can see 3/4 exits and very little happening with real impact players, building a defence around Salisu is scary in my opinion - he was "available" at best last season....

It's all very exciting with some fast transfers in. But it feels similar to Tino, Small and Simeu - promising young players who will do well on loan and might come into the team in the cups alongside Tella and Diallo, but are we going to "Overhaul" the squad without a Newcastle level investment??

We surely don't have the budget for a 10+ goal scorer. Looking at the table of Goal scorers last Season -JWP was on level terms on 10 Goals with - Antonio, Fernandes, Smith Rowe, Richarlison - None of whom are anywhere near the the type of player profile we can afford to buy, Slightly up the table, Mahrez, Mount, Maddison........... Further out of reach. 

I'd love it if i was wrong, but I cannot see goals, or an impact in defence.

If Prowsey does go - I'd be really worried. 

 

 

I am the most optimistic I have been for years.

We are buying good players some who are internationals, others who have been playing in the bundesliga since they were 17 to replace our problem positions. 

We still want to buy more midfield and attacking players (it looks like) and are trying to move out some who have been here too long so the manager finally has the profile of players that can play to our style much better.

We now have engaged owners, good front and back office staff and the manager now has support of qualified and upwardly mobile assistants

Our owners are trying to buy satellite clubs where they can purchase non immigration compliant talents until they have enough points to qualify to come to us on the cheap.

And Liverpool might of peaked and are now on the downward side of their cycle so get to see them cry for the next few years how everything is not fair.

 

[Master Bates]

1 hour ago, Pilchards said:

What are your thoughts of the Luton manager?

Good replacement for Ralph perhaps?

After Luton at his wikipedia , I'd say in as a coach if anything.

Edited 24 June, 2022 by Master Bates

[SuperSAINT]

 

[Toussaint]

1 hour ago, Bad Wolf said:

No, quite the opposite. This has been the best start to a transfer window in actual decades.

Why do you think that? I don't feel that way, it may turn out to be, but I'm not feeling it right at this moment. 

[Toussaint]

2 hours ago, Convict Colony said:

I know this very well as my mate is a massive luton fan so been hearing about nathan jones for a while.

he does a great job with luton in L1 and Championship, failed massively when he left them to go to Stoke and quickly got sacked.  I think he is the sort of manager who does well where teams dont have high expectations, so on that basis he's probably great but I'd wager his in the paul sturrock league.

The issue with him is, he's been gone too long

 

boom boom tsch!

 

one fir the muso's ...

[Bad Wolf]

8 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

Why do you think that? I don't feel that way, it may turn out to be, but I'm not feeling it right at this moment. 

We seem to be getting rid of the deadwood, made 2 very shrewd signings and another one that isn't bad. I have faith in the new owners and them giving Ralph the resources he needs to play the brand of football he wants. Call me deluded if you will.

[Ex Lion Tamer]

18 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said:

We seem to be getting rid of the deadwood, made 2 very shrewd signings and another one that isn't bad. I have faith in the new owners and them giving Ralph the resources he needs to play the brand of football he wants. Call me deluded if you will.

I felt positive about last summer as well. Hopefully this time it will be justified

[Bad Wolf]

5 minutes ago, Ex Lion Tamer said:

I felt positive about last summer as well. Hopefully this time it will be justified

And tbf we had an "okay" season

[Toussaint]

33 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said:

We seem to be getting rid of the deadwood, made 2 very shrewd signings and another one that isn't bad. I have faith in the new owners and them giving Ralph the resources he needs to play the brand of football he wants. Call me deluded if you will.

Wasn’t going to call you deluded, not into insulting people with a different view. We flirted with relegation last season and the last 12 or so games were dreadful, my concern is the players we are signing are all unproven, I’m hoping we sign a couple of established premier league ready  players in addition to the young hopefuls 

[Bad Wolf]

Just now, Toussaint said:

Wasn’t going to call you deluded, not into insulting people with a different view. We flirted with relegation last season and the last 12 or so games were dreadful, my concern is the players we are signing are all unproven, I’m hoping we sign a couple of established premier league ready  players in addition to the young hopefuls 

I know. I just think there's been a quiet refreshing stability about this transfer window so far. Though in regards to last season, I never thought we were in any danger of relegation after about September and I am a proper bed wetter.

[AlexLaw76]

46 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said:

We seem to be getting rid of the deadwood, made 2 very shrewd signings and another one that isn't bad. I have faith in the new owners and them giving Ralph the resources he needs to play the brand of football he wants. Call me deluded if you will.

What deadwood have we got rid of?

[Bad Wolf]

Just now, AlexLaw76 said:

What deadwood have we got rid of?

Forster, Lewis so far.

Redmond, Walcott, Moi, Beg all said to be off. Okay maybe we haven't "got rid" of them yet but there seems to be a fair amount of effort to do so.

[AlexLaw76]

Just now, Bad Wolf said:

Forster, Lewis so far.

Redmond, Walcott, Moi, Beg all said to be off. Okay maybe we haven't "got rid" of them yet but there seems to be a fair amount of effort to do so.

Forster was out of contract having turned down a new deal. 
 

[Bad Wolf]

Just now, AlexLaw76 said:

Forster was out of contract having turned down a new deal. 
 

We still got rid of him at long last. Of course, he may have got rid of us as well but still. One player who isn't good enough and didn't really want to be here gone regardless of the circumstances.

[AlexLaw76]

Just now, Bad Wolf said:

We still got rid of him at long last. Of course, he may have got rid of us as well but still. One player who isn't good enough and didn't really want to be here gone regardless of the circumstances.

We hardly “got rid of him”. He decided to leave us.

We will be getting rid of deadwood when the likes of Djenpo, Walcott, Valery are sold/loaned

that does not take into account the potential for 1 more year of “Longy”

[Bad Wolf]

1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said:

We hardly “got rid of him”. He decided to leave us.

We will be getting rid of deadwood when the likes of Djenpo, Walcott, Valery are sold/loaned

that does not take into account the potential for 1 more year of “Longy”

The Long thing (giggidy) is baffling, I'll concede that one. I don't really care how he left, the fact is he's gone.

And yes, the players mentioned above also needs to go but it feels like there's some effort being made to make that happen. In terms of Valery though, I'm happy to see him stay as a back up CB. As I said on another thread earlier, he's not put a foot wrong when he's played there.

[manji]

2 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

We hardly “got rid of him”. He decided to leave us.

We will be getting rid of deadwood when the likes of Djenpo, Walcott, Valery are sold/loaned

that does not take into account the potential for 1 more year of “Longy”

Yeah he said he could wait to get out of here.

[FarehamSaintJames]

I don’t think Walcott will be going to the MLS, nor do I think he will leave at all. He’s got a contract, I see him sticking it out.

Redmond I don’t think will leave either. One year left on his contract, and realistically the only teams that will be in for him are Championship clubs around the midlands area where his family are based. That said I’d keep him, he’s still a useful player.

Djenepo I think will leave on loan to somewhere like Turkey and that will be his final year with us done. No recouping money on him.

[HarvSFC]

3 hours ago, Pilchards said:

What are your thoughts of the Luton manager?

Good replacement for Ralph perhaps?

He lasted 38 matches at Stoke, one Premier League season, won 6 matches, drew 15 and lost 17, spending relatively big money on dross like Afobe, Woods, Batth and Vokes. I'd avoid him at the moment. He's the main man at Luton and it works for him and he's got them punching well above their weight, but he was well out of his depth at Stoke. There's definitely better out there and our manager's one of them.

[Turkish]

33 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

I don’t think Walcott will be going to the MLS, nor do I think he will leave at all. He’s got a contract, I see him sticking it out.

Redmond I don’t think will leave either. One year left on his contract, and realistically the only teams that will be in for him are Championship clubs around the midlands area where his family are based. That said I’d keep him, he’s still a useful player.

Djenepo I think will leave on loan to somewhere like Turkey and that will be his final year with us done. No recouping money on him.

Walcott will probably have a couple of good sub appearances this season and We’ll end up giving him another two years off the back of it

[charliemiller]

I have been told by a friend who works in Italy that Gazetta di Sport are reporting that the Matteus Svenberg deal is done !

Gavin B , Kethchup and Svenberg is a very good start to the required in list all good quality signings and great prices. Goalkeeper , CB and MF backup or switch arounds sorted .

In the background we have rumours of Cheick Doucoure pictured in a Saints shirt which would solve the DM issue .

I have always worried that the no10 position and Striker are gonna be the hardest to fill certainly fishing in the 10-20 m budget pond and its seems that is the case , but pleased with the start made on our refresh for sure .

[Wade Garrett]

3 hours ago, Pamplemousse said:

If Adams could finish he'd be a top striker. He missed so many sitters last season.

Not sure if you are being serious or sarcastic.

[Badger]

15 minutes ago, charliemiller said:

I have been told by a friend who works in Italy that Gazetta di Sport are reporting that the Matteus Svenberg deal is done !

Gavin B , Kethchup and Svenberg is a very good start to the required in list all good quality signings and great prices. Goalkeeper , CB and MF backup or switch arounds sorted .

In the background we have rumours of Cheick Doucoure pictured in a Saints shirt which would solve the DM issue .

I have always worried that the no10 position and Striker are gonna be the hardest to fill certainly fishing in the 10-20 m budget pond and its seems that is the case , but pleased with the start made on our refresh for sure .

Thought he was linked with Palace.

Question though, if Sangare couldn't get a work permit how will this bloke ?

[SuperSAINT]

 

[St. Neil]

50 minutes ago, charliemiller said:

Cheick Doucoure pictured in a Saints shirt

Looks like he is wearing Djenepo's shirt in the pictures.

[The Cat]

27 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said:

 

Have to say that's surprising to me. I really don't see how he's good enough for Man City, although granted he'll do a better job than 45 year old Fernandinho did last season.

[ErwinK1961]

3 minutes ago, The Cat said:

Have to say that's surprising to me. I really don't see how he's good enough for Man City, although granted he'll do a better job than 45 year old Fernandinho did last season.

With the money they’ve got, surprised they didn’t go all out for Rice.

[ErwinK1961]

1 hour ago, charliemiller said:

I have been told by a friend who works in Italy that Gazetta di Sport are reporting that the Matteus Svenberg deal is done !

Gavin B , Kethchup and Svenberg is a very good start to the required in list all good quality signings and great prices. Goalkeeper , CB and MF backup or switch arounds sorted .

In the background we have rumours of Cheick Doucoure pictured in a Saints shirt which would solve the DM issue .

I have always worried that the no10 position and Striker are gonna be the hardest to fill certainly fishing in the 10-20 m budget pond and its seems that is the case , but pleased with the start made on our refresh for sure .

No chance.

[qwertyell]

1 hour ago, Badger said:

Thought he was linked with Palace.

Question though, if Sangare couldn't get a work permit how will this bloke ?

You need 15+ points under the current WP system, and according to the online calculators he'd get 23 (11 points for appearances, 12 for the league he plays in).

[SuperSAINT]

 

[S-Clarke]

38 minutes ago, The Cat said:

Have to say that's surprising to me. I really don't see how he's good enough for Man City, although granted he'll do a better job than 45 year old Fernandinho did last season.

I think the most surprising part of this is the fee. He's not into his final year or anything like that, £42m in this market for an English international seems a bit cheap. Not sure what's happened there.

Looks like the signings Leeds have been making (Aarronsen/Roca etc) have been done in advance of his accepted departure, like Villa did with Grealish.

The DM they've signed from City is interesting though, they were very interested in Lavia but clearly unable to secure a deal (i'm sure they tried). I wonder if that now puts us in pole position for Lavia, even if it's just a season long loan?

Edited 24 June, 2022 by S-Clarke

[Lee On Solent Saint]

2 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

I think the most surprising part of this is the fee. He's not into his final year or anything like that, £42m in this market for an English international seems a bit cheap. Not sure what's happened there.

Looks like the signings Leeds have been making (Aarronsen/Roca etc) have been done in advance of his accepted departure, like Villa did with Grealish.

The DM they've signed from City is interesting though, they were very interested in Lavia but clearly unable to secure a deal (i'm sure they tried). I wonder if that now puts us in pole position for Lavia, even if it's just a season long loan?

If that's the benchmark fee for a starting England International midfielder, what chance have we got of getting upwards of 60m for JWP? If we are selling that is

[SuperSAINT]

11 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

The DM they've signed from City is interesting though, they were very interested in Lavia but clearly unable to secure a deal (i'm sure they tried). I wonder if that now puts us in pole position for Lavia, even if it's just a season long loan?

This was the first thing I looked for in the article.  Tough to know if we’ve got a chance (Leeds are up there in regards to getting youth talent) but at least it’s positive he’s not gone as part of the deal (on loan).

[The Cat]

Completely irrelevant to this thread, but I'm watching Glastonbury on tv, Arlo Parks is playing and someone has a massive Saints flag right at the front and it's in every crowd shot.