SaintLondon Posted 10 June, 2022 Posted 10 June, 2022 I wonder whether they’re thinking of moving Shane Long into a coaching role… How not to score.. Actually, that’s an area we’re already blessed in. 1
Convict Colony Posted 10 June, 2022 Posted 10 June, 2022 1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said: The contract offer is listed on the PL website... https://www.premierleague.com/news/2637594 Che Sac Everton Fred Adams. 🤣 3
croydonsaint Posted 10 June, 2022 Posted 10 June, 2022 Haven’t posted for a while but just getting irritated at all these easy negative comments about Long. For what it’s worth I think he has been a good player for us. I’m sure a lot of defenders do not enjoy playing against him. As a saints supporter just feel the need to say it as he does nothing but work hard for the team. He’s a better player than a lot of people give him credit for and if he’s here for another season the squad will be the better for it. 17 3
stevy777_x Posted 10 June, 2022 Posted 10 June, 2022 3 minutes ago, croydonsaint said: Haven’t posted for a while but just getting irritated at all these easy negative comments about Long. For what it’s worth I think he has been a good player for us. I’m sure a lot of defenders do not enjoy playing against him. As a saints supporter just feel the need to say it as he does nothing but work hard for the team. He’s a better player than a lot of people give him credit for and if he’s here for another season the squad will be the better for it. No it won t, he doesn t add anything to the team. Do you expect Saints to score when you see Shane Long starting or when he comes on? I sure to hell don’t 5
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 10 June, 2022 Posted 10 June, 2022 3 minutes ago, stevy777_x said: No it won t, he doesn t add anything to the team. Do you expect Saints to score when you see Shane Long starting or when he comes on? I sure to hell don’t To be fair, how many of our players actually do add something to the team! 2 1
croydonsaint Posted 10 June, 2022 Posted 10 June, 2022 Just my opinion. Football is a team game after all and for me he adds to the team in a positive way whether on the field or i would think also the dressing room. I can understand criticism of players from our supporters with dodgy attitudes and we have had a few of those in recent years but come on give Long a break 4 3
AlexLaw76 Posted 10 June, 2022 Posted 10 June, 2022 Just now, croydonsaint said: Just my opinion. Football is a team game after all and for me he adds to the team in a positive way whether on the field or i would think also the dressing room. I can understand criticism of players from our supporters with dodgy attitudes and we have had a few of those in recent years but come on give Long a break We pay people millions of £££ to be 'good eggs' around the place? 3
Matthew Le God Posted 10 June, 2022 Posted 10 June, 2022 4 minutes ago, croydonsaint said: Just my opinion. Football is a team game after all and for me he adds to the team in a positive way whether on the field or i would think also the dressing room. I can understand criticism of players from our supporters with dodgy attitudes and we have had a few of those in recent years but come on give Long a break Saints already have a mascot, they don't need to pay Shane Long tens of thousands of pounds to be another one... 5 1
saint1977 Posted 10 June, 2022 Posted 10 June, 2022 4 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: We pay people millions of £££ to be 'good eggs' around the place? If you were friends with Crocker or Semmens you could earn £75k a week for doing nothing as footballing ability doesn’t seem to matter. Total social club, at least relegation should be a sufficient sharpener to bring the club back into the professional era so they can’t piss money away. 2
Turkish Posted 10 June, 2022 Posted 10 June, 2022 24 minutes ago, croydonsaint said: Haven’t posted for a while but just getting irritated at all these easy negative comments about Long. For what it’s worth I think he has been a good player for us. I’m sure a lot of defenders do not enjoy playing against him. As a saints supporter just feel the need to say it as he does nothing but work hard for the team. He’s a better player than a lot of people give him credit for and if he’s here for another season the squad will be the better for it. Hello Mrs Long, how are you? 5
verlaine1979 Posted 10 June, 2022 Posted 10 June, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, croydonsaint said: Just my opinion. Football is a team game after all and for me he adds to the team in a positive way whether on the field or i would think also the dressing room. I can understand criticism of players from our supporters with dodgy attitudes and we have had a few of those in recent years but come on give Long a break I'd choose a player with a terrible attitude and a great first touch over the opposite every single time. Edited 10 June, 2022 by verlaine1979 1
Turkish Posted 10 June, 2022 Posted 10 June, 2022 1 minute ago, saint1977 said: If you were friends with Crocker or Semmens you could earn £75k a week for doing nothing as footballing ability doesn’t seem to matter. Total social club, at least relegation should be a sufficient sharpener to bring the club back into the professional era so they can’t piss money away. I expect Shane is first on with the rainbow laces so brings something to the table with our champions league level virtue signalling 1
Ted Bates Statue Posted 10 June, 2022 Posted 10 June, 2022 On 09/06/2022 at 16:06, Turkish said: Report: Everton want to sign a £58m striker (hitc.com) £58m!!!!!! Would be an insane bit of business, if true 🙏
AlexLaw76 Posted 10 June, 2022 Posted 10 June, 2022 Theo sorts the curry nights and Shane does the entertainment? Not bad for around £5m+ per year! 2
beatlesaint Posted 10 June, 2022 Posted 10 June, 2022 28 minutes ago, croydonsaint said: Haven’t posted for a while but just getting irritated at all these easy negative comments about Long. For what it’s worth I think he has been a good player for us. I’m sure a lot of defenders do not enjoy playing against him. As a saints supporter just feel the need to say it as he does nothing but work hard for the team. He’s a better player than a lot of people give him credit for and if he’s here for another season the squad will be the better for it. Four years ago I would have agreed with every word. Not now. 2
saint1977 Posted 10 June, 2022 Posted 10 June, 2022 2 minutes ago, Turkish said: I expect Shane is first on with the rainbow laces so brings something to the table with our champions league level virtue signalling They’d come undone and Bednarek would trip over them to concede a goal.
Lighthouse Posted 10 June, 2022 Posted 10 June, 2022 TBH, if we’re offering him a contract, we might as well offer him a 12 year deal. If just running around for 10 minutes and falling over sporadically is deemed a worthy contribution to the team, he will never not be able to do that. I’ve played against Monday night fives players who were pushing 50 and avid cyclists/joggers, they could do that no problem. 2
Dellman Posted 10 June, 2022 Posted 10 June, 2022 5 minutes ago, verlaine1979 said: I'd choose a player with a terrible attitude and a great first touch over the opposite every single time. Thank goodness you've nothing to do with running our team 3
verlaine1979 Posted 10 June, 2022 Posted 10 June, 2022 1 minute ago, Dellman said: Thank goodness you've nothing to do with running our team Yes, god forbid we should be anything other than a team of mediocre cloggers. Hoping to occasionally be a nuisance to bigger teams, because all we have are nuisance players. But at least they give their all at the same time as giving the ball away over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over. 2
Charlie Wayman Posted 10 June, 2022 Posted 10 June, 2022 3 hours ago, Saint Garrett said: And maybe they will be, but right now they're not going to offer us more than Long IMO. There is no risk in it. And actually, he proved this season he still has something to offer. What? 1
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 10 June, 2022 Posted 10 June, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, verlaine1979 said: I'd choose a player with a terrible attitude and a great first touch over the opposite every single time. Lemina? Boufal? Edited 10 June, 2022 by Ex Lion Tamer 1
verlaine1979 Posted 10 June, 2022 Posted 10 June, 2022 10 minutes ago, Ex Lion Tamer said: Lemina? Boufal? I'm still undecided over whether I'd rather have Lemina than Diallo, but I'd take Boufal over Elyounoussi every day of the week. If the barometer of consistency is simply knowing that a player isn't going to make anything happen, what's the point?
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 10 June, 2022 Posted 10 June, 2022 50 minutes ago, croydonsaint said: Haven’t posted for a while but just getting irritated at all these easy negative comments about Long. For what it’s worth I think he has been a good player for us. I’m sure a lot of defenders do not enjoy playing against him. As a saints supporter just feel the need to say it as he does nothing but work hard for the team. He’s a better player than a lot of people give him credit for and if he’s here for another season the squad will be the better for it. I am a Long fan but if we are thinking of offering him another contract it shows a lack of nous and ambition by the club. It was a mistake to give Theo a two year deal (most fans said that at the time), and if they sign Minamino that would be another. I just don’t trust the manager’s judgement anymore. The goalkeeper situation has been mishandled and why weren’t we told about Stephens’ new contract when it was signed? From afar it looks like the club is still being run haphazardly with a manager who makes a lot of poor decisions. 5 2
stknowle Posted 10 June, 2022 Posted 10 June, 2022 4 hours ago, S-Clarke said: I dunno, I don't really buy this argument. What's the point in keeping someone around who we know can't offer anything? If he's good around the changing room then give him a kit man role or something. I don't want to sound harsh because he's been a good servant for us, but we've dragged the life out of Long and it makes no sense having him take up a squad place when we know he cannot play at this level anymore. I'd rather have someone like Ballard or Doyle coming off the bench to impact a PL game, not Long. Totally. Nice guy and all that but ffs ENOUGH. 2
S-Clarke Posted 10 June, 2022 Posted 10 June, 2022 18 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Is Ross Wilson working part time as their recruitment guru or something? Maybe they'll give us another £15m. 1
ErwinK1961 Posted 10 June, 2022 Posted 10 June, 2022 27 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: ‘On the brink of swooping’?! Interesting terminology. His agent must be fcking incredible. 1
suewhistle Posted 10 June, 2022 Posted 10 June, 2022 I can't see it myself, but that could be a hattrick of players from Southampton the Leicester fans would be really happy with... 5
Suhari Posted 10 June, 2022 Posted 10 June, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, SuperSAINT said: He probably missed it. (Wiv me? Geddit? Eh? C'mon, it's pretty good.) Edited 10 June, 2022 by Suhari 1 3
Appy Posted 10 June, 2022 Posted 10 June, 2022 42 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: The source is a former employee of West Ham?
Warriorsaint Posted 10 June, 2022 Posted 10 June, 2022 1 hour ago, stevy777_x said: No it won t, he doesn t add anything to the team. Do you expect Saints to score when you see Shane Long starting or when he comes on? I sure to hell don’t Supporting the team? Support your team, whoever plays for it. Stop being such a negative ninny. Shane has been a great servant and will continue to be. A TEAM is made up of different types of players contributing in different ways. Shane’s role is obviously not to score reams of goals or he would have been gone long ago. Learn to see the bigger picture. 2 2
Lighthouse Posted 10 June, 2022 Posted 10 June, 2022 23 minutes ago, Fitzhugh Fella said: I am a Long fan but if we are thinking of offering him another contract it shows a lack of nous and ambition by the club. It was a mistake to give Theo a two year deal (most fans said that at the time), and if they sign Minamino that would be another. I just don’t trust the manager’s judgement anymore. The goalkeeper situation has been mishandled and why weren’t we told about Stephens’ new contract when it was signed? From afar it looks like the club is still being run haphazardly with a manager who makes a lot of poor decisions. I’ve drawn a Venn diagram of things in your post and things Ralph is actually responsible for. The other circle is on a different forum somewhere, try mumsnet. 1 14
Warriorsaint Posted 10 June, 2022 Posted 10 June, 2022 31 minutes ago, verlaine1979 said: I'm still undecided over whether I'd rather have Lemina than Diallo, but I'd take Boufal over Elyounoussi every day of the week. If the barometer of consistency is simply knowing that a player isn't going to make anything happen, what's the point? Thank God you’re not the manager then. Stick to fifa22 1
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 10 June, 2022 Posted 10 June, 2022 20 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: I’ve drawn a Venn diagram of things in your post and things Ralph is actually responsible for. The other circle is on a different forum somewhere, try mumsnet. Whether Ralph is responsible or not, the points are valid. 5
sadoldgit Posted 10 June, 2022 Posted 10 June, 2022 1 hour ago, verlaine1979 said: Yes, god forbid we should be anything other than a team of mediocre cloggers. Hoping to occasionally be a nuisance to bigger teams, because all we have are nuisance players. But at least they give their all at the same time as giving the ball away over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over. Manchester United are full or technically gifted players but many of them have a poor attitude and look how their season went. Yes, you need ability but teams like ours need to make up for lack of quality with a positive attitude. When we displayed those qualities we actually sat on the top of the EPL. How many comments did you read on here about players being on the beach in the final games of the season. Technical ability without a good attitude gets you Pogba.
Ralph Fastenbüttl Posted 10 June, 2022 Posted 10 June, 2022 1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said: This would be quite hilarious.
saintadjg Posted 10 June, 2022 Posted 10 June, 2022 I think Rogers is trying to make amends for when he took Loveren & co.
Turkish Posted 10 June, 2022 Posted 10 June, 2022 1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said: Theo sorts the curry nights and Shane does the entertainment? Not bad for around £5m+ per year! You can’t put a price on morale Jamie
Saint Keef Posted 10 June, 2022 Posted 10 June, 2022 2 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said: it Their fans were spitting nails with them buying Bertrand (albeit free) and Vestergaard, Brendan seems to collect Southampton players as though they are Panini stickers. It doesn't matter if they're any good or not, he just needs them to fill his album. If he comes back for Theo, he'll have the whole set.
SuperSAINT Posted 10 June, 2022 Posted 10 June, 2022 2 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said: This is a very random link / source combo.
Saint Garrett Posted 10 June, 2022 Posted 10 June, 2022 4 hours ago, qwertyell said: Spurs about to drop £20m on Djed Spence (good player - attitude has supposedly been a bit iffy in the past). Maybe puts Middlesbrough in a position to make a permanent move for Adam Armstrong (rumoured to be sounding us out about a loan)? I’ve heard we’re happy for Armstrong to go as long as we get a decent fee for him. If Boro offered us £12-15m I would expect him to go, and probably do a good job there.
trousers Posted 10 June, 2022 Posted 10 June, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said: I’ve heard Source?* (*Tongue-in-cheek shtick) Edited 10 June, 2022 by trousers
SuperSAINT Posted 10 June, 2022 Posted 10 June, 2022 19 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said: I’ve heard we’re happy for Armstrong to go as long as we get a decent fee for him. If Boro offered us £12-15m I would expect him to go, and probably do a good job there. Might be wrong, but doubt Boro could stump up that cash (even if they sell Spence). Only teams on parachute cash could probably do it.
Turkish Posted 10 June, 2022 Posted 10 June, 2022 13 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Might be wrong, but doubt Boro could stump up that cash (even if they sell Spence). Only teams on parachute cash could probably do it. Transfer fee won’t be an issue if they get £20m for spence. It’ll be waves Armstrong probably for c£40k a week when he joined so won’t want to give that up and championship clubs can’t afford it. Looks like we’re stuck with another dud
Dr Who? Posted 10 June, 2022 Posted 10 June, 2022 44 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said: I’ve heard we’re happy for Armstrong to go as long as we get a decent fee for him. If Boro offered us £12-15m I would expect him to go, and probably do a good job there. Blackburn fan at work wants Armstrong back.
Chez Posted 10 June, 2022 Posted 10 June, 2022 1 hour ago, Saint Garrett said: I’ve heard we’re happy for Armstrong to go as long as we get a decent fee for him. If Boro offered us £12-15m I would expect him to go, and probably do a good job there. its been five years since Boro spent that kind of money on a player, and when they did they fucked it with £15m Assombalonga, however that transfer was funded by selling De Roon and Rhodes, so if Spence does bring in £20m, maybe their will be funds. Ralph seemed to have very confidence in him in the second half of the season, but he did make noises at the end of the season to suggest he would be here next season.
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 10 June, 2022 Posted 10 June, 2022 5 hours ago, qwertyell said: Spurs about to drop £20m on Djed Spence (good player - attitude has supposedly been a bit iffy in the past). Maybe puts Middlesbrough in a position to make a permanent move for Adam Armstrong (rumoured to be sounding us out about a loan)? He is going to be a top player. Unfortunately I think Spurs have a very good manager now and they are on the up
Chez Posted 10 June, 2022 Posted 10 June, 2022 41 minutes ago, Turkish said: Transfer fee won’t be an issue if they get £20m for spence. It’ll be waves Armstrong probably for c£40k a week when he joined so won’t want to give that up and championship clubs can’t afford it. Looks like we’re stuck with another dud the only way it works is if we pay the difference in wages, say £1m a year for three years, which you could just knock off the asking price and then Boro can pay him the same wage. Not sure its as simple as all that though. Whatever happens, we ain't getting the £15m back.
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