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Dusic

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3 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

The club (and most other clubs) have shown no previous indication of signing 25 year olds and instantly loaning them out before to not benefit the club in the upcoming season. He isn't a player who looks to be considered in high regard or of high potential, so I struggle to see the purpose of signing him.

Perhaps Sport Republic are buying Le Harve and this is all to benefit them! 🤔😁

Not sure why you feel its so strange. 25years old for a GK is different to 25 for an outfield player as they tend to peak later.

Also, how do you know that he isnt considered to have high potential? I'm sure you have watched zero matches he has played in, whereas Saints scouts if we sign him would clearly have seen a lot of him.

We have one senior keeper under contract at the moment. It seems highly likely we will sign a younger keeper to compete with McCarthy, probably Bazunu or Dragowski. Then its also likely Caballero will stay on as third choice. Ralph has been positive about his personality which is crucial for a 3rd GK and also he is clearly capable unlike Lewis (which made it so odd keeping him so long as they clearly didnt fancy him playing a single minute of first team football).

Signing Lis on a free is low risk, we can loan him out and then see how he develops with a view to him coming back to the club once Caballero and McCarthy have moved on. If he isn't good enough for us then they can keep loaning him out and will have lost next to nothing.

Brighton as an example have signed quite a few players and loaned them straight out. Recently Caicedo has had a big impact since he came back, MacAllister before him. This season they have also done exactly this with Sima, Kozlowski & Mitoma.

If Saints haven't done this type of thing before that does not mean they can't and won't start doing it. In many ways its quite sensible.

 

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Chez

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That rumour seems strange. I don't really understand why we would do it. How do we benefit? We sign and then pay the wages of a 25 year old keeper we don't rate enough to even be third choice?

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23 minutes ago, Chez said:

That rumour seems strange. I don't really understand why we would do it. How do we benefit? We sign and then pay the wages of a 25 year old keeper we don't rate enough to even be third choice?

I agree with you there. Seems no real benefit to us. 

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15 hours ago, Chez said:

That rumour seems strange. I don't really understand why we would do it. How do we benefit? We sign and then pay the wages of a 25 year old keeper we don't rate enough to even be third choice?

We sign a player for nothing, let him test himself in a competitive league where we can keep an eye on him. If he does well he’s been a Bargain signing if he doesn’t then he cost us hardly anything. I can’t say I’m very optimistic about this one but you never know Our danish fella must know what he’s doing, after all he’s done a Ted Talk

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Matthew Le God

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1 minute ago, Turkish said:

We sign a player for nothing, let him test himself in a competitive league where we can keep an eye on him. If he does well he’s been a Bargain signing if he doesn’t then he cost us hardly anything. 

Is it though? The French top flight isn't particularly competitive, let alone the 2nd tier.

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3 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Is it though? The French top flight isn't particularly competitive, let alone the 2nd tier.

Riad Mahrez came from Le Harve in the French second tier and he did alright.

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Matthew Le God

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1 minute ago, Turkish said:

Riad Mahrez came from Le Harve in the French second tier and he did alright.

How does one example of a superb player coming from that league support the claim that the league is 'competitive'?

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9 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Is it though? The French top flight isn't particularly competitive, let alone the 2nd tier.

 

the French second tier is a competition therefore it’s a competitive league 

competitive

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    and I see you edited your post 🤣
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Just now, Turkish said:

 

the French second tier is a competition therefore it’s a competitive league 

 

So when you said...  'let him test himself in a competitive league' it was meaningless to use competitive... because that term could be applied to him being loaned to literally any league he is eligible to play in! Including playing as an overage player in our under 23 team. 🙄

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4 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

So when you said...  'let him test himself in a competitive league' it was meaningless to use competitive... because that term could be applied to him being loaned to literally any league he is eligible to play in! Including playing as an overage player in our under 23 team. 🙄

Is it a competitive league, yes or no?

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1 minute ago, Matthew Le God said:

If you wish to use the definition you earlier quoted, the word competitive is redundant as you say it applies to every league/competition.

Do you think a one horse league is 'competitive'? 

 

I can’t be arsed to discuss this utterly pointless topic with you as apart from anything else I’m off out for lunch in a minute. No one cares about this apart from you so I’ll let you celebrate this little victory and probably greatest moment in your forum history. Enjoy your bank holiday pal. 

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35 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

If you wish to use the definition you earlier quoted, the word competitive is redundant as you say it applies to every league/competition.

Do you think a one horse league is 'competitive'? 

 

Bayern Munich have won 10 titles in a row, probably the closest to a truly one horse league at the moment.

In 2020/21 2nd to 5th was separated by 5 points and last season 4th to 7th by 6 points so there is very close competition there for European places. 
 

Every league in the world is competitive in some way, teams don’t just win because they have more money or better players, those players still have to play the matches and get wins. If we are scouting players from seemingly lesser leagues or loaning players to those leagues there will be a reason for it. When we loaned Stephens to Coventry in 2016 as a 22 year old people would have questioned his future ability to be part of the first team squad but he’s certainly been as asset.

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Convict Colony

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16 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

 

I liked it on video how it said similar players is Joey Veerman (now at PSV) who we were apparently interested in a bit last summer.

Also how he looked to pass forward first.

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5 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

Highly rated player that guy. Spurs were looking at him too, as well as AC Milan. Not sure we stand a chance, although he'll be affordable to us because he's out of contract next year.

 I think that with a lot of these links where we see other teams supposed interest i think it comes down to 2 main factors for them.

1. How much money the player is getting 

2. Does he think he will play a lot.

With these bigger name teams he will get more money but less opportunity, maybe better for him to get slightly less money with us but play a lot more and move on to a bigger club after for mega bucks.

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14 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

 I think that with a lot of these links where we see other teams supposed interest i think it comes down to 2 main factors for them.

1. How much money the player is getting 

2. Does he think he will play a lot.

With these bigger name teams he will get more money but less opportunity, maybe better for him to get slightly less money with us but play a lot more and move on to a bigger club after for mega bucks.

Yep, good points - if he's ambitious enough he may feel he can jump straight into other teams too though. Hopefully we start to see more concrete links in the coming weeks, all a bit vague at the moment!

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22 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

I liked it on video how it said similar players is Joey Veerman (now at PSV) who we were apparently interested in a bit last summer.

Also how he looked to pass forward first.

We'll soon knock that trait out of him... ;)

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2 hours ago, Turkish said:

We sign a player for nothing, let him test himself in a competitive league where we can keep an eye on him. If he does well he’s been a Bargain signing if he doesn’t then he cost us hardly anything. I can’t say I’m very optimistic about this one but you never know Our danish fella must know what he’s doing, after all he’s done a Ted Talk

Is the Turkish Super Lig not competitive?

If we liked what we saw of him playing there, what do we learn from him playing French second division football that we don't already know?

If we are unsure, then why sign him? 

If we had three keepers on the books and he was too good to miss out, so we stock pile, like Chelsea do, I could understand it, but we have one keeper - so actually need to sign keepers to actually play for us.

As I have said. This story just seems strange. It doesn't stack up. However, because it is so specific, it may well be true. Who knows.

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2 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

 

Not reported on Gazzetta Italia's website.

No link in Gazzetta Italia's tweets.

Only Napoli and that he has interest in going to the premier League in the last GI article featuring him.

 

Attributed to Printed Media as per below.

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39 minutes ago, for_heaven's_Saint said:

Was about to say the same- has there actually been a credible link? 

Seems like the reason that Saints Extra don't put links in their tweets is because sometimes they make stuff up.

as determined below:- This has been linked to physical paper rather than online article.

 

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Sorry to go back to the Ligue 2 debate, but as a standard, it is appalling.

 

Le Havre as a club are known for having a very good academy, a bit like us, which is why anyone remotely decent like Mahrez gets snapped up pretty quickly. I fail to believe that they don't have a better young goalkeeper we could sign instead of a 25 year old Polish goalkeeper.

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5 minutes ago, Dusic said:

http://sportwitness.co.uk/southampton-make-concrete-proposal-signing-saints-willing-get-serious-player-keen-pl-move/

 

There is a screenshot here of the article in question...the link isn't made up.

Fair enough.

Just nothing on the Bologna Pages of the actual website Bologna: news di oggi e ultim'ora | La Gazzetta dello Sport

 

 

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david in sweden

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2 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

 

Got game time in a dozen internationals for Sweden last season.   Reminds me of the " young " Schneiderlin a bit.

YES I know he  was French, but Svanberg has a similar style of play.       Worth another look at the You Tube clips.

Certainly a good deal for the money in today's market,  and we need someone to follow Stuart Armstrong who is already past 30.....  

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14 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said:

Sorry to go back to the Ligue 2 debate, but as a standard, it is appalling.

 

Le Havre as a club are known for having a very good academy, a bit like us, which is why anyone remotely decent like Mahrez gets snapped up pretty quickly. I fail to believe that they don't have a better young goalkeeper we could sign instead of a 25 year old Polish goalkeeper.

.... except that as we are no longer in the EU, and with such limited experience it might prove a problem getting a UK work permit for him this year,

but if he does well, and gets some game time in the Polish national set-up, it would be easier especially as he will have been " a Saints employee"  for a year . 

 

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Svanberg looks a sensible signing but Im not entirely sure where he suits our current system really, he’s not a No.10 and he isn’t a DM

He’s played the majority of his football in central midfield, more than likely more suited to JWPs position

He’s tall, athletic, good progressive passer of the ball… Im just not sure who he is replacing 

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