CB Fry Posted 2 June, 2022 Share Posted 2 June, 2022 7 hours ago, woodsaint1 said: On the face of it a very good signing, but I think the same was said when Villa signed Buendia, Digne, Bailey and Ings last summer. Also added Coutinho mid season and finished an impressive 14th. He'll also turn 30 next season Big fee and a hefty four year contract for a 29 year old. Ambition etc so fine but they achieved nothing last season and right now they feel more likely to be another Everton rather than a club on course for the Champions League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 2 June, 2022 Share Posted 2 June, 2022 35 minutes ago, CB Fry said: Big fee and a hefty four year contract for a 29 year old. Ambition etc so fine but they achieved nothing last season and right now they feel more likely to be another Everton rather than a club on course for the Champions League. Yes, you would hate to be a Villa fan at the moment. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 2 June, 2022 Share Posted 2 June, 2022 Underwhelming signing. Lots of good keepers out there. Odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 2 June, 2022 Share Posted 2 June, 2022 Caught this on Twitter about Lis. I was hoping the plan was to buy a better keeper to improve the team not a really rubbish one to make Macca look better? And, if he turned out to be worse than our usual entry into "worst Premier League player ever", that would be a very impressive feat. Still, I'm sure we know what we're doing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 2 June, 2022 Share Posted 2 June, 2022 1 minute ago, Ivan Katalinic's 'tache said: Caught this on Twitter about Lis. I was hoping the plan was to buy a better keeper to improve the team not a really rubbish one to make Macca look better? And, if he turned out to be worse than our usual entry into "worst Premier League player ever", that would be a very impressive feat. Still, I'm sure we know what we're doing... Have you considered that the rumour of him signing could be bullshit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 2 June, 2022 Share Posted 2 June, 2022 Looking forward to seeing Aston Villa become the next Everton. Hopefully we can have a few signings ready to sign on the dotted line for June 10th. Optimistic and very unlike us, but for once it would be nice to see established, experienced players sign for us than your usual “for the future” players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 2 June, 2022 Share Posted 2 June, 2022 1 hour ago, Wade Garrett said: Yes, you would hate to be a Villa fan at the moment. I have no doubt that all of them are in absolute dreamland at the moment. I wish we were Aston Villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 2 June, 2022 Share Posted 2 June, 2022 9 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said: Looking forward to seeing Aston Villa become the next Everton. Hopefully we can have a few signings ready to sign on the dotted line for June 10th. Optimistic and very unlike us, but for once it would be nice to see established, experienced players sign for us than your usual “for the future” players. And then we all wake up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 2 June, 2022 Share Posted 2 June, 2022 25 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Have you considered that the rumour of him signing could be bullshit? Yes. Have you considered this is a forum where one might like to post speculation and conjecture? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 2 June, 2022 Share Posted 2 June, 2022 9 minutes ago, CB Fry said: I have no doubt that all of them are in absolute dreamland at the moment. I wish we were Aston Villa. Sarcastic fucker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 2 June, 2022 Share Posted 2 June, 2022 Burnley reporter for The Athletic: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 2 June, 2022 Share Posted 2 June, 2022 3 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Burnley reporter for The Athletic: Obvs. He is good and costs actual money 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 2 June, 2022 Share Posted 2 June, 2022 Athletic saying that he wants to play to be considered for World Cup. Yet, he'd consider not playing, but warming a bench, to reach the same goal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 2 June, 2022 Share Posted 2 June, 2022 19 minutes ago, DT said: Obvs. He is good and costs actual money Unknown dodgy Polish keeper from a shit Turkish team it is then 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 2 June, 2022 Share Posted 2 June, 2022 38 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Burnley reporter for The Athletic: And there’s the “pop” of the hopeful balloon being burst 💥 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 2 June, 2022 Share Posted 2 June, 2022 42 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Burnley reporter for The Athletic: There were no reports of Southampton interest in signing him. An article about fans shortening betting odds is not the same as a rumour linking him to Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 2 June, 2022 Share Posted 2 June, 2022 49 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Burnley reporter for The Athletic: Shame. He'd have been a great signing. Proper top flight experience. Hard to see where he'd go in the prem and be a starter though. Leeds perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 2 June, 2022 Share Posted 2 June, 2022 13 hours ago, SuperSAINT said: Exciting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 2 June, 2022 Share Posted 2 June, 2022 32 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: Unknown dodgy Polish keeper from a shit Turkish team it is then Standard - rumours about decent players. Then sign shit ones 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 2 June, 2022 Share Posted 2 June, 2022 5 minutes ago, DT said: Standard - rumours about decent players. Then sign shit ones There was no rumour linking Pope to Saints. An article about odds shortening is not the same thing. I also wouldn't take as gospel the article about the Polish keeper from Altay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 2 June, 2022 Share Posted 2 June, 2022 14 hours ago, SuperSAINT said: Glad to see the “hand picked” owners are showing their ambition and intent with aggression in the transfer market. It would just be textbook Southampton to have a rebuild and make ourselves weaker as a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 2 June, 2022 Share Posted 2 June, 2022 2 minutes ago, Dman said: Glad to see the “hand picked” owners are showing their ambition and intent with aggression in the transfer market. It would just be textbook Southampton to have a rebuild and make ourselves weaker as a result. Don't believe everything you read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 2 June, 2022 Share Posted 2 June, 2022 4 minutes ago, Dman said: Glad to see the “hand picked” owners are showing their ambition and intent with aggression in the transfer market. It would just be textbook Southampton to have a rebuild and make ourselves weaker as a result. We are a work in progress. The problem is that we have been that for some time and we haven’t made any progress. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 2 June, 2022 Share Posted 2 June, 2022 3 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said: We are a work in progress. The problem is that we have been that for some time and we haven’t made any progress. I’ve had/have total confidence in semmens, Crocker and co. Up until now, however, if we go into next season with McCarthy as our no1 and this noddy as our no2, then I will have lost all confidence in them. Incredible incompetence to let Fraser go, but extend McCarthy. They either both had to go or McCarthy had to (assuming we’re not gonna sign a first choice this summer). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 2 June, 2022 Share Posted 2 June, 2022 56 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: There were no reports of Southampton interest in signing him. An article about fans shortening betting odds is not the same as a rumour linking him to Saints. 😂😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 2 June, 2022 Share Posted 2 June, 2022 15 minutes ago, Dman said: It would just be textbook Southampton to have a rebuild and make ourselves weaker as a result. Tbf fair I was thinking that a couple of days ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 2 June, 2022 Share Posted 2 June, 2022 1 hour ago, DT said: Obvs. He is good and costs actual money How much would you spend on him DT? I've no idea what our budget is (and of course sales will change things), but lets say its £40m, how much of that would you spend on a keeper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 2 June, 2022 Share Posted 2 June, 2022 11 minutes ago, Chez said: How much would you spend on him DT? I've no idea what our budget is (and of course sales will change things), but lets say its £40m, how much of that would you spend on a keeper? I'd have spent what we spaffed on McCarthy's contract and given it all to Forster. Not playing your game. Depends on who it is, obviously, and all those hypotheticals you hint at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 2 June, 2022 Share Posted 2 June, 2022 Pope not being of interest to Saints really isn’t anything we weren’t expecting. 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 2 June, 2022 Share Posted 2 June, 2022 4 minutes ago, DT said: I'd have spent what we spaffed on McCarthy's contract and given it all to Forster. Not playing your game. Depends on who it is, obviously, and all those hypotheticals you hint at Forster is only marginally better than McCarthy, neither of them should be our number one 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 2 June, 2022 Share Posted 2 June, 2022 I don’t want to be one of those guys, of course this is a ‘forum’ after all and the rumours are here for us to discuss From the outside we’ve been told that this is a #noholdsbarred summer, and every position is being looked at.. I can only hope this is the intention from the new board, although, as a ‘Saint’ over these last 5 years I find this hard to believe Ill give them a chance Im happy to wait and see what we bring in really, because the proof really will be in the pudding here and we need signings that are going to kick us on, so Im not completely depressed at the moment But… despite MLG telling us these are all rumours and he is possibly correct, it is ‘agent’ season after all… its hard not to become demoralised when we know the work that needs to happen this year and the most concrete rumour is a 25 yr old GK from Turkey that couldn’t catch a cold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 2 June, 2022 Share Posted 2 June, 2022 Just now, Smirking_Saint said: But… despite MLG telling us these are all rumours and he is possibly correct, it is ‘agent’ season after all… its hard not to become demoralised when we know the work that needs to happen this year and the most concrete rumour is a 25 yr old GK from Turkey that couldn’t catch a cold What makes it in any way a 'concrete rumour'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Matthew Le God Posted 2 June, 2022 Share Posted 2 June, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said: From the outside we’ve been told that this is a #noholdsbarred summer, and every position is being looked at.. I can only hope this is the intention from the new board, although, as a ‘Saint’ over these last 5 years I find this hard to believe Ill give them a chance Why judge new owners based on the experience of old owners? 🤔 Judging them on their own merits is fairer. Let's wait and see what they do. Edited 2 June, 2022 by Matthew Le God 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 2 June, 2022 Share Posted 2 June, 2022 Every summer it’s always the same. 1) Sack the board, it’s the first week of June and the Twitter rumours aren’t ambitious enough. 2) I wish we were Villa/Everton/Norwich/Leeds/Palace/Brighton 7 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 2 June, 2022 Share Posted 2 June, 2022 1 minute ago, Matthew Le God said: Why judge new owners based on the experience of old owners? 🤔 Judging them in their own merits is fairer. Let's wait and see what they do. Which is exactly what I said 🤷♀️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 2 June, 2022 Share Posted 2 June, 2022 10 minutes ago, DT said: I'd have spent what we spaffed on McCarthy's contract and given it all to Forster. Not playing your game. Depends on who it is, obviously, and all those hypotheticals you hint at The question was, how much would you spend on Pope. If we have £40m available, would you spend £20mon him? Just asking. If you don't want to answer fine. Anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 2 June, 2022 Share Posted 2 June, 2022 5 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: What makes it in any way a 'concrete rumour'? I said it is our most ‘concrete’ rumour, so in essence, the rumour that, compared to the others keeps coming back and seems to have the most legs Its not that difficult to comprehend what Im saying unless you are frantically digging for something to fill your void in this afternoons pedantry quota 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 2 June, 2022 Share Posted 2 June, 2022 1 minute ago, Chez said: The question was, how much would you spend on Pope. If we have £40m available, would you spend £20mon him? Just asking. If you don't want to answer fine. Anyone else? I suppose it depends on a lot of things, what our overall budget is, how much Burnley value Pope, what we want to achieve this window But in answer to your question I wouldn’t want to spend 50% of our budget on our GK knowing we still need to fill outfield positions Id suggest if we only have £40m to spend we’re in danger though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 2 June, 2022 Share Posted 2 June, 2022 1 minute ago, Smirking_Saint said: I suppose it depends on a lot of things, what our overall budget is, how much Burnley value Pope, what we want to achieve this window But in answer to your question I wouldn’t want to spend 50% of our budget on our GK knowing we still need to fill outfield positions Id suggest if we only have £40m to spend we’re in danger though I don't know what our budget will be. I just picked that figure out of a hat. We've made huge losses over the last there years. There is very little money left in the bank of the loan. I am not sure there are huge funds available, but perhaps the owners add more debt to the business in the short term or we sell Salisu for £40m or suchlike. The budget then instantly changes. Pope for £20m, with zero sell on value doesn't sound like a deal we will be doing. I might be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 2 June, 2022 Share Posted 2 June, 2022 Ben Mee set to leave Burnley as his contract is expiring. Would be 33 in Sept but good player and strong leader. Would be all over it if he were 30 but considering he is recovering from a fractured leg too I doubt Saints would be in for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 2 June, 2022 Share Posted 2 June, 2022 2 minutes ago, Chez said: I don't know what our budget will be. I just picked that figure out of a hat. We've made huge losses over the last there years. There is very little money left in the bank of the loan. I am not sure there are huge funds available, but perhaps the owners add more debt to the business in the short term or we sell Salisu for £40m or suchlike. The budget then instantly changes. Pope for £20m, with zero sell on value doesn't sound like a deal we will be doing. I might be wrong. Don't think for one minute we would or should be in for Pope for £20m and definitely didn't suggest it. Salisu said he's happy. I can still foresee Spurs coming in for JWP for £50m and us relenting (even though we think that's too little). Think we should spend a significant sum on a decent keeper and centre back, maybe another defensive midfielder. PS are we skint despite the £100m we got from Prem money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 2 June, 2022 Share Posted 2 June, 2022 4 minutes ago, Chez said: I don't know what our budget will be. I just picked that figure out of a hat. We've made huge losses over the last there years. There is very little money left in the bank of the loan. I am not sure there are huge funds available, but perhaps the owners add more debt to the business in the short term or we sell Salisu for £40m or suchlike. The budget then instantly changes. Pope for £20m, with zero sell on value doesn't sound like a deal we will be doing. I might be wrong. I agree… again it’s different if we have 100m or so, I still find 20m a large chunk when we probably need a significant spend at CB/ST but I suppose we’ll see Popes likely to have suiters though, not sure what his wages are either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 2 June, 2022 Share Posted 2 June, 2022 14 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: Every summer it’s always the same. 1) Sack the board, it’s the first week of June and the Twitter rumours aren’t ambitious enough. 2) I wish we were Villa/Everton/Norwich/Leeds/Palace/Brighton I wish for nothing really. Born 1983, sheltered misplaced childhood and didn't know football existed til 1996. Would be great to win a cup, finish higher than 6th, but we're Saints. I always have high hopes for the new season and always will do and then yeah but hey ho. Staying up is always good enough for me,although I do miss the League 1 days. From League 1 2011 to Europe in 2015, not bad for a mediocre club. Good times will come back one day, just ride the storm and enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 2 June, 2022 Share Posted 2 June, 2022 32 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: If this goes ahead, surely we are looking at loaning him to a Championship side? Shouldn't be strengthing potential relegation rivals by given them our players. Not that I particularly rate Smallbone anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted 2 June, 2022 Share Posted 2 June, 2022 2 hours ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: Unknown dodgy Polish keeper from a shit Turkish team it is then On the upside, that sentence would fit perfectly to the tune of “ cheer up sleepy Jean” and we have been struggling for songs? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 2 June, 2022 Share Posted 2 June, 2022 11 minutes ago, DT said: Don't think for one minute we would or should be in for Pope for £20m and definitely didn't suggest it. Salisu said he's happy. I can still foresee Spurs coming in for JWP for £50m and us relenting (even though we think that's too little). Think we should spend a significant sum on a decent keeper and centre back, maybe another defensive midfielder. PS are we skint despite the £100m we got from Prem money? Yep, £20m seems a lot for Pope for a club like us. Can we get a decent keeper without spending a bit though? Wage bill is £114m. So the circa £113m we get each year simply goes on wages. £140m combined losses the last three years and a £100m debt with about £20m in the bank. So yes, we are relatively skint, but doesn't mean we won't spend and then recoup afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 2 June, 2022 Share Posted 2 June, 2022 8 minutes ago, Chez said: Yep, £20m seems a lot for Pope for a club like us. Can we get a decent keeper without spending a bit though? Wage bill is £114m. So the circa £113m we get each year simply goes on wages. £140m combined losses the last three years and a £100m debt with about £20m in the bank. So yes, we are relatively skint, but doesn't mean we won't spend and then recoup afterwards. I suppose the flip side of that is Johnstone from WBA. No Transfer fee to just the outlay on a signing on fee and wages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lighthouse Posted 2 June, 2022 Share Posted 2 June, 2022 So essentially it looks like we’re getting in an upgrade on Harry Lewis, who market forces dictate was a bottom half of League 2 standard player. I see nothing to be upset about here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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