ErwinK1961 Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 1 hour ago, SuperSAINT said: Let’s get the band back together with Bale & Ox to have the best physio room we’ve ever had. All those “imagine Southamptons team if they didn’t sell all their players” graphics/memes… maybe we’re slowly trying to make it a reality. We’ll have Van Dijk back in 2026. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 22 minutes ago, gammon cheeks said: Stuart Pearce just left West Ham .....would be a good coach ...certainly would kick a few into shape . Why would he? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 31 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: told you 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 3 hours ago, Baird of the land said: Really, cmon. Who looks at saints and thinks what this team really needs is a kid in net who hasn’t played above league 1. If he's good enough, he's good enough. He's also been playing international football for the past year so has experience outside of League 1. Have you seen him play? If so I'd be interested in why you think he wouldn't be good enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 I'm sure Ward Prowse is on many teams lists of "potential targets". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 2 hours ago, Saint Matty 76 said: Apparently a good source for Liverpool stuff. I'd be very happy with this one on loan, be a bit sceptical if we're dropping £20m~ outright given the injury concerns. It's been 4 years since he absolutely obliterated his knee - tore his anterior cruciate ligament, ruptured his lateral collateral ligament, damaged his medial ligament, and tore his lateral hamstring tendon clean off the bone all in the same tackle. The doctors said it was about as bad as it gets. He got back to playing after a couple of years, but he's barely been a part-time footballer since then - clearly nothing like the player he was. 29 in August. We'd be mugs to spend money on the memory of a player. We already did that with Walcott. 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Cat said: I'm sure Ward Prowse is on many teams lists of "potential targets". True. It's a pity we never successfully invested in players to take advantage of his ability with corners. We win enough corners but rarely do we get on the end of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 If a top 4 club genuinely come in for JWP then he would be mad not to go. Especially to Spurs where he would have a good chance of regular minutes. That said, to Saints he is clearly worth in the £50 - £60m bracket - would anyone really pay that for him?! If he did go it would need a monumental rebuild as his output is so high in various metrics - not least goals and assists. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 21 minutes ago, Dusic said: If a top 4 club genuinely come in for JWP then he would be mad not to go. Especially to Spurs where he would have a good chance of regular minutes. That said, to Saints he is clearly worth in the £50 - £60m bracket - would anyone really pay that for him?! If he did go it would need a monumental rebuild as his output is so high in various metrics - not least goals and assists. The only slight 'niggle' in the back of my mind is that we've agreed a daft release clause if a 'CL' team come in for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 1 hour ago, The Cat said: If he's good enough, he's good enough. He's also been playing international football for the past year so has experience outside of League 1. Have you seen him play? If so I'd be interested in why you think he wouldn't be good enough? Worth noting the Rep Ireland have been playing possession based football — Ralph likes his keepers to be good on the deck. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 I'd like to think JWP is more ambitious than Spurs, the serial trophy bottlers. I know we can't talk but come on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 1 hour ago, S-Clarke said: The only slight 'niggle' in the back of my mind is that we've agreed a daft release clause if a 'CL' team come in for him. we ain't giving him a £100k+ a week, five year contract with low ball a CL side release clause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 20 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said: I'd like to think JWP is more ambitious than Spurs, the serial trophy bottlers. I know we can't talk but come on. 'More ambitious' than a team who just finished in a Champions League place? Which other team should he hold out for? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 Let’s be honest, Ward-Prowse deserves to go, if Tottenham cough up enough for him, he’ll be off. I’m sure idiots will still boo him next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 Spurs are just pushing buttons to see if the "deal with anyone but Spurs" rule still applies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 36 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: 'More ambitious' than a team who just finished in a Champions League place? Which other team should he hold out for? A team who win trophies for one thing Spurs have as much chance of winning the league and Champions League as we do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 If he's going to go, I hope it's not to Spurs. Prolonged low-ball bids & constant media briefing incoming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 12 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said: 1) A team who win trophies for one thing 2) Spurs have as much chance of winning the league and Champions League as we do. 1) Such as? 2) That is clearly nonsense. They've been finishing in the top 4 in recent years and even made the final of the Champions League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 15 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: 1) Such as? 2) That is clearly nonsense. They've been finishing in the top 4 in recent years and even made the final of the Champions League. 1. Man City. Liverpool. Chelsea. 2. Slightly tongue in cheek but their best player wanted to leave to fulfil his ambitions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swannymere Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 For those saying JWP isn't worth £50-£60M why not? have you seen some of the players in that bracket and aren't proven in the league? Is Grealish really worth twice as much and does he contribute twice as much to a team? For some clubs he's worth it for the free kicks alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca155 Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 James WP absolutely deserves a move to CL club (or potential). I'm sure he signed that contract to ensure Saints get big money for him, which they obviously need. Good luck to him. Not really bothered where he goes, but Spurs seems a good fit. He needs game time and they won't want him on the bench. The horrible truth is that we'll get more impact out of £60million, than keeping him. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 1 minute ago, macca155 said: The horrible truth is that we'll get more impact out of £60million, than keeping him. Unless we buy the postmodern versions of Hoedt/Lemina/Carrillo. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca155 Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 Just now, SuperSAINT said: Unless we buy the postmodern versions of Hoedt/Lemina/Carrillo. That is the major worry, just have to hope the club get it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 4 minutes ago, macca155 said: I'm sure he signed that contract to ensure Saints get big money for him, which they obviously need. I'm sure he signed that contract to ensure he got big money. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 I still don’t think he’ll leave. I really don’t. Also on the flip side Spurs “may be interested” but are they going to pay out stupid money, likely not. Daniel Levy would offer maybe a fiver and some magic beans and even that is pushing the boat out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 Just now, FarehamSaintJames said: I still don’t think he’ll leave. I really don’t. Also on the flip side Spurs “may be interested” but are they going to pay out stupid money, likely not. Daniel Levy would offer maybe a fiver and some magic beans and even that is pushing the boat out. Levy ain't giving us £70m. He's looking for bargains, players with a year left on their contract, not guys that have just signed five year deals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said: 'More ambitious' than a team who just finished in a Champions League place? Which other team should he hold out for? If he actually has the option he should hold out for Liverpool. If he’s got any chance to go there he’d be a decent fit. Jordan Henderson on the wane, James Milner can’t go on forever. So, in answer to your question, Liverpool. That’s who he should hold out for. If he hasn’t got a chance of signing for them, Spurs are another slightly lower option that he might pursue also, but in footballing terms it’s Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the colonel Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 How many days before the start of next season will we make our first summer signing? I'll be optimistic and say 20days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 14 minutes ago, the colonel said: How many days before the start of next season will we make our first summer signing? I'll be optimistic and say 20days. We need @alpine_saintback to whinge and whinge and whinge that we haven’t made any signings before May is out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 13 minutes ago, The Kraken said: We need @alpine_saintback to whinge and whinge and whinge that we haven’t made any signings before May is out. We're a laughing stock. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 3 minutes ago, CB Fry said: We're a laughing stock. We’re run like a B&B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 If we are going in for any former players. Surely we would be better off with Bale as opposed to Ox? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 21 minutes ago, ally_uk said: If we are going in for any former players. Surely we would be better off with Bale as opposed to Ox? I’d take both. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 4 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said: I’d take both. I’d take neither. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloggy saint Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 40 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: I’d take neither. Seriously? I'd have Bale in a heart beat. It'll never happen but I bet he'd be good for 10+ goals a season. Ox on the other hand, nah. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 24 May, 2022 Share Posted 24 May, 2022 4 hours ago, cloggy saint said: Seriously? I'd have Bale in a heart beat. It'll never happen but I bet he'd be good for 10+ goals a season. The PR and exposure as well would not be underestimated. He wouldn't work under RH's rigid tactics though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 24 May, 2022 Share Posted 24 May, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Lighthouse said: I’d take neither. Strange. They’d both offer us more in the 10 games they’re available for, than other other no10’s can all season. Bale is a seriously underrated player (not throughout his career, but now), get him motivated and he can still be one of the best in the world. He turns up time and time again for Wales. Edited 24 May, 2022 by Dman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 24 May, 2022 Share Posted 24 May, 2022 Hey physio guys we have got you plenty of work for next season as we are looking to buy Bale and Oxy. Might even try get Ings back for a full house! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 24 May, 2022 Share Posted 24 May, 2022 You guys who would like Bale and the Ox back are winding us up. They are crocks now and we cannot any of that nor do we want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 24 May, 2022 Share Posted 24 May, 2022 Hearing this morning Forster to join Spurs - if true, this may go some way to easing the previous bad blood on transfer dealings between the two clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 24 May, 2022 Share Posted 24 May, 2022 Just now, Miltonaggro said: Hearing this morning Forster to join Spurs - if true, this may go some way to easing the previous bad blood on transfer dealings between the two clubs. Does it really count as a transfer though? He's out of contract so it's nothing to so with the club as to where he goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 24 May, 2022 Share Posted 24 May, 2022 13 hours ago, S-Clarke said: The only slight 'niggle' in the back of my mind is that we've agreed a daft release clause if a 'CL' team come in for him. Urgh have we really? We should be asking £75m for him this summer. If we've included a release clause for £50m or less (given only top 4 clubs could afford more), that's pretty damn stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 24 May, 2022 Share Posted 24 May, 2022 11 hours ago, Pamplemousse said: 1. Man City. Liverpool. Chelsea. I've thought this. JWP has always been happy at saints and is on the record several times saying its his dream to captain the club. If he moves i think it will be to actually win trophies, not so much for the money, which will mean those 3 teams realistically. Imagine he'll also have a mind on making sure he's playing regularly as well given the impending WC. Hate to say it, but if Liverpool have the money, I could see him ending up there to replace players like Milner, Henderson, and even the relatively disappointing Keita. It would be disappointing if he went to a bottle job side like spurs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 24 May, 2022 Share Posted 24 May, 2022 6 minutes ago, Saint86 said: Urgh have we really? We should be asking £75m for him this summer. If we've included a release clause for £50m or less (given only top 4 clubs could afford more), that's pretty damn stupid. We gave McCarthy a new contract that also was pretty damn stupid 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 24 May, 2022 Share Posted 24 May, 2022 4 minutes ago, Give it to Ron said: We gave McCarthy a new contract that also was pretty damn stupid And it would seem we're too embarrassed to make that news public... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 24 May, 2022 Share Posted 24 May, 2022 On 16/05/2022 at 19:48, hackedoff said: They can afford to travel to London and pay for a cup final ticket though. On 16/05/2022 at 17:57, Fitzhugh Fella said: Calm down. Lot of pissed off people in Liverpool because of the stitch up over Hillsborough. Booing the establishment is one way to show their frustration. 1 hour ago, Give it to Ron said: We gave McCarthy a new contract that also was pretty damn stupid I think its a reasonable decision for a club with limited resources to offer McCarthy a new contract if they are expecting to sign a keeper to be the Number . Forster clearly wants a larger contract and would only be justified if he was the number 1 in my opinion. Of course if we sign some kid then ill reserve the right to shout abuse at the club (again) for shyte decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 24 May, 2022 Share Posted 24 May, 2022 26 minutes ago, wild-saint said: I think its a reasonable decision for a club with limited resources to offer McCarthy a new contract if they are expecting to sign a keeper to be the Number . Forster clearly wants a larger contract and would only be justified if he was the number 1 in my opinion. Of course if we sign some kid then ill reserve the right to shout abuse at the club (again) for shyte decisions. You don’t think we could have improved on him for those wages and fees? He is shocking with distribution something key to Ralph’s playbook 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 24 May, 2022 Share Posted 24 May, 2022 (edited) On the whole Forster / Macca situation. Why are we all so sure we didn't offer Forster a contract? Seems more likely he said no thanks (or told us to do one) given his history of being loaned out / bench warmer, and then went elsewhere? That or we offered far less wages than he can get elsewhere... By which point we kind of have to offer Macca a contract. Also, isn't he really good mates with JWP? 😨 We're going to struggle if we go into next season with Macca as No.1 though, that's no slight on him, but we have all said for years now that we need a better keeper... so its a season of defensive struggle ahead for me - unless we miraculously learn to defend / sign some actual class CB's. Edited 24 May, 2022 by Saint86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 24 May, 2022 Share Posted 24 May, 2022 33 minutes ago, Give it to Ron said: You don’t think we could have improved on him for those wages and fees? He is shocking with distribution something key to Ralph’s playbook How much are the wages we offered him and the agents fees? A real first team keeper if he isn't unlucky with injuries will play every game quite easily. So if AMs wages / fees are realistic for a back up keeper then im not worried. Lets be honest any of the clubs in and around our standing probably have fairly shyte back up keepers. I reserve judgement until we sign a replacement for Forster and then if its clear Mcarthy is 1st choice then ill moan. Until that point how can you judge their decision unless we assume they are buying a young talent that wont be first choice then ill agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 24 May, 2022 Share Posted 24 May, 2022 Never going to happen but would love us to be in the mix for either Pope or Henderson 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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