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Anyone else preparing for the club planted story of how we don't see value in the market for strikers and are pleased with Adams return to form and willing to go to January with our current options rather than waste out money on someone we aren't sure of?

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40 minutes ago, ecurnew02 said:

Saints transfers links the last two days 

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The way we often do business on the sly, that’s not necessarily a bad thing. Hopefully we can be active in the last week of the window and even take part in the “drama” of SSN’s deadline day (mainly because it’s dull when we don’t!).

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22 minutes ago, Dusic said:

Anyone else preparing for the club planted story of how we don't see value in the market for strikers and are pleased with Adams return to form and willing to go to January with our current options rather than waste out money on someone we aren't sure of?

Ralph was very clear and stated there will be incoming and outgoings before the window closed. 

If not he's just a lying cvnt. 

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37 minutes ago, Dusic said:

Anyone else preparing for the club planted story of how we don't see value in the market for strikers and are pleased with Adams return to form and willing to go to January with our current options rather than waste out money on someone we aren't sure of?

We’re clearly looking for a striker, if we can’t find one within our budget then what do you want us to do? We’ve replaced Broja with Aribo and Mara, which on early showing is hardly a tragedy even if we get nobody else. I don’t particularly give a sh*t how the club try to spin anything.

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45 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

We’re clearly looking for a striker, if we can’t find one within our budget then what do you want us to do? We’ve replaced Broja with Aribo and Mara, which on early showing is hardly a tragedy even if we get nobody else. I don’t particularly give a sh*t how the club try to spin anything.

Aribo is a midfielder and Mara a raw striker touted as a replacement for Shane Long.

We lost Broja in May (plus Long, Tella and potentially Redmond) so have essentially had the whole summer to recruit a striker  and the manager himself has said its a top priority. Arguably we shouldnt still be looking now, we should have sorted it already.

This season its a particularly competitive bottom half so we absolutely need to do something. 

Mara is raw, Armstrong not good enough and Adams inconsistent.

If we don't sign a starting attacker then IMO Ralph has every right to feel let down.

Most decent sized deals will be known about by Monday so tick tock.. 

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1 hour ago, Lighthouse said:

We’re clearly looking for a striker, if we can’t find one within our budget then what do you want us to do? We’ve replaced Broja with Aribo and Mara, which on early showing is hardly a tragedy even if we get nobody else. I don’t particularly give a sh*t how the club try to spin anything.

That's the thing I would find disappointing - not finding someone within our budget.  Hard to know what's fact and what's made up but seems like we were prepared to bid 20 odd mill for Delap and maybe more on Ramos or Broja.  Might not be true but let's say we've got around 25M to spend then I really think we should be able to find another striker for that money capable of being a first team player and improving us.

Aribo is more of a ten that can play up front.  In his interview he confirmed Ralph saw him as a right sided 10 so he certainly wasn't bought with the intention of being a permanent striker.

Still time left and hopefully we can get someone in.  Who knows, Mara may turn out to be as good as Broja but as it stands I think we're a little light up front if we stick with what we've got.

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8 hours ago, Dusic said:

Anyone else preparing for the club planted story of how we don't see value in the market for strikers and are pleased with Adams return to form and willing to go to January with our current options rather than waste out money on someone we aren't sure of?

I still don’t think we’re after a striker. I think we’re after full-back cover and a wide player.

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6ft 2”, 26 year old CB, 42 caps for Poland, two years EPL experience.possible deal available at £15m. If that was anyone other than Jan the forum would be thinking he’s worth a punt as a still young guy but with excellent experience CB. 
The hate-in on Jan is typical of sheepish mob mentality. Yiu watch Saints and you see him make dozens of vital potentially goals saving interceptions throwing his body in the way for Saints. He also makes mistakes. But in the interests of balance please don’t just bang on about the downside like he has no strong points. He has. 

Quoting Vestergaard who is a different type of player as a secondary argument in favour of getting rid is is not all that helpful either  - I’ll call your Vestergaard and raise you Jose . …a little bit more balance in the coverage of Jan please…

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Not sure why we would loan Bednarek out to a theoretical rival.

He is better in a back four than Lyanco and Stephens so all it achieves is moving them a place up the order.

Imagine Salisu gets a 3 month injury and we have to pick Lyanco or Stephens every week...scary!

If we do loan him then hopefully we can also ditch Stephens and bring someone else in...otherwise see no benefit for us whatsoever.

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8 hours ago, woodsaint1 said:

Would love Leicester to win that race. Another step closer to securing our whole 9-0 defence 😬. Their fans reaction would be priceless

If they get £70M for Fofana they should give us at least £20M of that for Bednarek 

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37 minutes ago, gio1saints said:

6ft 2”, 26 year old CB, 42 caps for Poland, two years EPL experience.possible deal available at £15m. If that was anyone other than Jan the forum would be thinking he’s worth a punt as a still young guy but with excellent experience CB. 
The hate-in on Jan is typical of sheepish mob mentality. Yiu watch Saints and you see him make dozens of vital potentially goals saving interceptions throwing his body in the way for Saints. He also makes mistakes. But in the interests of balance please don’t just bang on about the downside like he has no strong points. He has. 

Quoting Vestergaard who is a different type of player as a secondary argument in favour of getting rid is is not all that helpful either  - I’ll call your Vestergaard and raise you Jose . …a little bit more balance in the coverage of Jan please…

Jan is playing football at elite level. It is not good enough to make last ditch blocks and tackles some of the time and the rest of the time be slow to react, out of position, ball watch, etc. At this level he shouldn't just be a reactive player and his speed of thought in possession should be significantly better. That's why he gets stick and deservedly so.

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15 minutes ago, Dusic said:

Not sure why we would loan Bednarek out to a theoretical rival.

He is better in a back four than Lyanco and Stephens so all it achieves is moving them a place up the order.

Imagine Salisu gets a 3 month injury and we have to pick Lyanco or Stephens every week...scary!

If we do loan him then hopefully we can also ditch Stephens and bring someone else in...otherwise see no benefit for us whatsoever.

To be fair Stephens was starting every game at the start of last season and looked one of our best players before injury at Man City away.

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One thing is for certain. When Sept 1st rolls around and Ralph and Semmens gets its excuses in - we tried but the market is challenging, people don't understand how difficult it is to do deals etc etc etc - when they get their reasons in for why we couldn't sign a striker or a full back.. ..you can absolutely guarantee that Villa (or Leicester) will not experience that with us and Bednarek. We'll make sure that happens no problem. Smooth as you like. Hitch free.

Because the challenges of the transfer market never stop us flogging useful members of the squad when the chance comes. We will never put another club through what we end up going through. The market is difficult and challenging except when its SFC selling then its red-carpet time.

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2 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

One thing is for certain. When Sept 1st rolls around and Ralph and Semnens gets its excuses in - we tried but the market is challenging, people don't understand how difficult it is to do deals etc etc etc - when they get their reasons in for why we couldn't sign a striker or a full back.. ..you can absolutely guarantee that Villa (or Leicester) will not experience that with us and Bednarek. We'll make sure that happens no problem. Smooth as you like. Hitch free.

Because the challenges of the transfer market never stop us flogging useful members of the squad when the chance comes. We will never put another club through what we end up going through. The market is difficult and challenging except when its SFC selling then its red-carpet time.

One of my favourite quotes was after the January window when we signed Carillo. Les banging on about how tough the market was the Carillo deal was really hard to do. I suspect this was for different reasons Les thinks in that they probably thought it was no either a wind up or we were absolute mugs so let’s rinse them for as much as possible. 

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Our squad is not strong enough or creative enough. If we don’t sign a striker and another defender at the very least we will struggle. Leicester just papers over the cracks. Hope Maitland Niles becomes a reality and we can add a proven striker too. 

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3 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

We are going to end up with Joao Pedro or Brereton-Diaz as out start striker!

Nah, despite us chasing a striker and full back all summer Ralph will decide just after the window he is happy with his options in all positions with a strong deep squad. Also let’s not forget that all important pathway as we don’t want to upset Dom Ballard by blocking his pathway with another signing, the pathway is there for players to see, it’s the pathway, the club identity, the pathway is the way we do things, the pathway etc etc 

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1 minute ago, DT said:

Our squad is not strong enough or creative enough. If we don’t sign a striker and another defender at the very least we will struggle. Leicester just papers over the cracks. Hope Maitland Niles becomes a reality and we can add a proven striker too. 

Played 3 games, we've scored 4 goals and hit the post and mara has given the best assist I've seen from a player for us since tadic.

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12 minutes ago, Turkish said:

One of my favourite quotes was after the January window when we signed Carillo. Les banging on about how tough the market was the Carillo deal was really hard to do. I suspect this was for different reasons Les thinks in that they probably thought it was no either a wind up or we were absolute mugs so let’s rinse them for as much as possible. 

Sooooo, you had much interest from other clubs in young Guido, then?

Mr Reed, let's be serious here. This is a lad scoring a goal in every other game. There are clubs ringing us every single day. It's £20m today but tomorrow? Could be double. Hang on I have a phone call coming from, er, Italy, right now. Look Mr Reed, do you want me to take that call?

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Looks like Leicester are going to sign to sign Akanji from Dortmund to replace Fofana and West Ham just signed a defender so I doubt either hold any concrete interest in Bednarek. I'd rather sell him at a cut price £8/10m then loan him, but maybe saints feel they can get a £1/2m loan fee, wages covered in full and then still sell him for £8/£10m next summer? 

Striker - I quite like the look of Nmecha from Wolfsburg, someone mentioned his name earlier in the summer, but don't think he has been linked properly with anyone. Would have worked with Shields before at Man City, probably going to world cup with Germany as they don't have many striker options. Scored a couple in the champions league last season. Yeah probably unrealistic the more I think about it. 

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15 minutes ago, saintrich said:

Looks like Leicester are going to sign to sign Akanji from Dortmund to replace Fofana

Thats a massive step down, think Akanji has been pretty poor for them and on the Bundesliga show for being a big weak link for Dortmund 😅

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Not many days left now. Hoping we have a decent new striker ready to pull from the hat to give us all a nice surprise. A creative number 10 who can carry the ball forward, go past people and slide passes to the strikers would be good plus a centre back if Bednarek leaves. Maybe a loan to cover full back. 

Not sold on Maitland Niles if I'm honest so wouldn't be disappointed if we don't bring him in.

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15 minutes ago, saintant said:

Not many days left now. Hoping we have a decent new striker ready to pull from the hat to give us all a nice surprise. A creative number 10 who can carry the ball forward, go past people and slide passes to the strikers would be good plus a centre back if Bednarek leaves. Maybe a loan to cover full back. 

Not sold on Maitland Niles if I'm honest so wouldn't be disappointed if we don't bring him in.

I get the feeling you’re going to be disappointed 

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8 minutes ago, saintant said:

Have you heard something or are you going on intuition?

Intuition. When was the last time we did any significant business in the last week of the transfer window? Can only think of Mane and Alderwiereld back in 2014. It’s usually a total let down

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10 hours ago, Dusic said:

Aribo is a midfielder and Mara a raw striker touted as a replacement for Shane Long.

Im aware he’s seen more of an attacking midfielder, he’s still an attacking option we didn’t have last year who looks like he has goals in him.

10 hours ago, Dusic said:

We lost Broja in May (plus Long, Tella and potentially Redmond) so have essentially had the whole summer to recruit a striker  and the manager himself has said its a top priority. Arguably we shouldnt still be looking now, we should have sorted it already.

Doesn’t work like that, transfers have gone down to the final hours of the window for as long as there’s been one. This isn’t like doing your homework on the school bus at 0835, it’s all part of the dynamics of the market.

10 hours ago, Dusic said:

This season its a particularly competitive bottom half so we absolutely need to do something.

Complete speculation, we won’t have any idea on that until after the WC probably. West Ham (who’s form dropped off a cliff much like ours at the end of last season), Leicester, Brighton, Brentford and Leeds could all have taken a big step backwards, we just don’t know.

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2 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Intuition. When was the last time we did any significant business in the last week of the transfer window? Can only think of Mane and Alderwiereld back in 2014. It’s usually a total let down

Was Ings signed on deadline day? There is still hope but it’s either quiet as we are keeping it under wraps or we have missed out of our main targets and there is nothing to leak. Praying for the former!

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2 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Intuition. When was the last time we did any significant business in the last week of the transfer window? Can only think of Mane and Alderwiereld back in 2014. It’s usually a total let down

Thought you meant I was in for disappointment about Maitland Niles but seems you meant we probably won't be signing anyone before the window closes? That would be majorly disappointing for everyone after we've been led to believe a striker was a priority.

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9 minutes ago, goodymatt said:

He looks more than capable to help improve our squad. Few clips in there of him bossing the game against us for WBA.

The question is whether or not he’s happy playing FB for Saints or not. If he is then sign him up!

Agreed - he would improve on what we have. He really stood out against us.

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3 hours ago, gio1saints said:

6ft 2”, 26 year old CB, 42 caps for Poland, two years EPL experience.possible deal available at £15m. If that was anyone other than Jan the forum would be thinking he’s worth a punt as a still young guy but with excellent experience CB. 
The hate-in on Jan is typical of sheepish mob mentality. Yiu watch Saints and you see him make dozens of vital potentially goals saving interceptions throwing his body in the way for Saints. He also makes mistakes. But in the interests of balance please don’t just bang on about the downside like he has no strong points. He has. 

Quoting Vestergaard who is a different type of player as a secondary argument in favour of getting rid is is not all that helpful either  - I’ll call your Vestergaard and raise you Jose . …a little bit more balance in the coverage of Jan please…

Whoever signs Jan just has to make sure that poland have no big games coming up.

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2 hours ago, Turkish said:

Nah, despite us chasing a striker and full back all summer Ralph will decide just after the window he is happy with his options in all positions with a strong deep squad. Also let’s not forget that all important pathway as we don’t want to upset Dom Ballard by blocking his pathway with another signing, the pathway is there for players to see, it’s the pathway, the club identity, the pathway is the way we do things, the pathway etc etc 

Pathway formerly known as the Southampton Way. 

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13 hours ago, verlaine1979 said:

Kvaratskhelia looks a bit of a steal for Napoli. Just seen the two goals he scored at the weekend - very different but both superb. Only cost them about 10m euros. 

Shame we couldn't get him here - he was linked back in the January window. Can't compete with a club like Napoli.

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2 hours ago, saintrich said:

Looks like Leicester are going to sign to sign Akanji from Dortmund to replace Fofana and West Ham just signed a defender so I doubt either hold any concrete interest in Bednarek. I'd rather sell him at a cut price £8/10m then loan him, but maybe saints feel they can get a £1/2m loan fee, wages covered in full and then still sell him for £8/£10m next summer? 

Birmingham paid us £1m loan fee for Gallagher. Admittedly it was Redknapp was at the helm, so didn't give a fuck how much money was being spent, but might be an indication as to the likely amount we might get, ie more than £1/2m.

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1 hour ago, Chez said:

 

Birmingham paid us £1m loan fee for Gallagher. Admittedly it was Redknapp was at the helm, so didn't give a fuck how much money was being spent, but might be an indication as to the likely amount we might get, ie more than £1/2m.

Didnt Utd want £4m for Brandon Williams loan fee?

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