Summer 2022 Transfer Window

[Saint Garrett]

Wolves bid again for Kalajdzic - €15m, they want €20-€25m supposedly, wonder if we’re still interested, probably not .

[revolution saint]

15 minutes ago, qwertyell said:

Sounding like Atalanta have wrapped up Rasmus Hojlund for €17m. Only moved to Graz in January for €1.5m - people getting rather excited about a young Scandinavian 6'4" left footed striker with electric pace. For some reason.

Shame we weren't all over this. Or if we were, it's a shame we couldn't play the Danish card and get it over the line.

 

Yeah, that’s a shame. He looked good but hard to judge on YouTube and in a pretty poor league. Atlanta seem to recruit pretty well though so might end up one we kick ourselves over. 

Getting closer to deadline day now and was hoping it would be a bit clearer on who, if any, are likely to come in. Fear is that we’re working our way down a list of targets. Hopefully we haven’t wasted time on any that were unrealistic from the start.

[nta786]

4 hours ago, manji said:

The Che rumours were put to bed at the fans forum. The dimwit who was worried that Che was being sold. He was asked where he heard that and said “ Twitter “ he was met with derision.

Yep. However if he had said “I read it on Twitter as reported by Jacob Tanswell from the Athletic”, then I’d have been more inclined to hear what Martin Semmens would have had to say.

Some of the questions at that Forum was really playing into Ralph/Martin’s hands ie. That guy who said “i went to all away games, is it worth me going to leeds and city” to which Ralph pointed out we got decent draws up there…

[Wade Garrett]

2 hours ago, CB Fry said:

This Ramos stuff feels in the same ball park as that winger/attacker we nearly got from Russia a few years ago. Lots of wailing that we couldn't quite get it done but we tried etc etc. Never felt that real a prospect.

Turned out to be a wrongun if I remember right.

Someone will remember his name.

Anyway, this is a similar level. We're not getting this kid.

Quincy Promes.  Nonce, drug-trafficker and a Pompey fan.

[woodsaint1]

33 minutes ago, qwertyell said:

Sounding like Atalanta have wrapped up Rasmus Hojlund for €17m. Only moved to Graz in January for €1.5m - people getting rather excited about a young Scandinavian 6'4" left footed striker with electric pace. For some reason.

Shame we weren't all over this. Or if we were, it's a shame we couldn't play the Danish card and get it over the line.

 

Meteoric rise in the past year for the kid. Was third choice at Copenhagen 12 months ago. While he has shown glimpses of class, it would have been a massive step up to the PL

[Badger]

Kalajdnic , or possibly Hjolund, would have been the better options. Both affordable it would seem and Hjolund fitting our young policy.

 

[Chez]

39 minutes ago, qwertyell said:

Sounding like Atalanta have wrapped up Rasmus Hojlund for €17m. Only moved to Graz in January for €1.5m - people getting rather excited about a young Scandinavian 6'4" left footed striker with electric pace. For some reason.

Shame we weren't all over this. Or if we were, it's a shame we couldn't play the Danish card and get it over the line.

looks a talent. Maybe we just didn't spot him?

[Badger]

3 minutes ago, woodsaint1 said:

Meteoric rise in the past year for the kid. Was third choice at Copenhagen 12 months ago. While he has shown glimpses of class, it would have been a massive step up to the PL

Isn’t that what we do though ?

[Dusic]

https://gianlucadimarzio.com/en/atalanta-closing-in-to-rasmus-hoejlund-from-sturm-graz-details

Seems like all our media linked striker targets are headed elsewhere. Hopefully have someone not yet linked lined up unless keeping Adams has impacted budget (£50m net spend).

Edited 25 August, 2022 by Dusic

[Ex Lion Tamer]

21 minutes ago, revolution saint said:

Yeah, that’s a shame. He looked good but hard to judge on YouTube and in a pretty poor league. Atlanta seem to recruit pretty well though so might end up one we kick ourselves over. 

Getting closer to deadline day now and was hoping it would be a bit clearer on who, if any, are likely to come in. Fear is that we’re working our way down a list of targets. Hopefully we haven’t wasted time on any that were unrealistic from the start.

Maybe we tried but he chose Atalanta? They had a weaker season last year but before that made the quarter finals of the Champions League

[woodsaint1]

3 minutes ago, Badger said:

Isn’t that what we do though ?

It is, but we've already signed a good young prospect in Mara. Hopefully we're targeting somebody with a few seasons of goals/experience in a decent league

[Badger]

7 minutes ago, woodsaint1 said:

It is, but we've already signed a good young prospect in Mara. Hopefully we're targeting somebody with a few seasons of goals/experience in a decent league

Kalajdnic would satisfy that criteria, but are we even at the races for him?

(Probably no bad thing if we’re not as it will save me some embarrassment when I overlook my auto text naming him Kalashnikov as it wants to)

[revolution saint]

14 minutes ago, Ex Lion Tamer said:

Maybe we tried but he chose Atalanta? They had a weaker season last year but before that made the quarter finals of the Champions League

Yes, meant kick ourselves in respect to not getting him rather than not trying (which we’ll probably never know and outcome is the same anyway). Atalanta are a decent side for sure.

[Saint Garrett]

28 minutes ago, Dusic said:

https://gianlucadimarzio.com/en/atalanta-closing-in-to-rasmus-hoejlund-from-sturm-graz-details

Seems like all our media linked striker targets are headed elsewhere. Hopefully have someone not yet linked lined up unless keeping Adams has impacted budget (£50m net spend).

Broja? 

[ecurnew02]

Just throwing some realistic names out there of young strikers that would (probably) break our transfer fee record

Lukas Nmecha (former city youth under Joe Shields)

Oihan Sancet

Johnathan Bukardt

Georginio Rutter

Armando Broja (is he still realistic??)

For me the list is becoming pretty slim…

Edited 25 August, 2022 by ecurnew02

[Dusic]

Excl: Saints might sign Ramos or might not and if we do sign him it will be at some point late in the window, i.e now onwards.

There is "a lot going on behind the scenes".

Source: @SaintRob__

[MarkSFC]

5 minutes ago, Dusic said:

Excl: Saints might sign Ramos or might not and if we do sign him it will be at some point late in the window, i.e now onwards.

There is "a lot going on behind the scenes".

Source: @SaintRob__

Or...Im just making this shit up

[Ralph Fastenbüttl]

3 hours ago, Badger said:

Doesn’t appear to be a lot of joined up thinking in that strategy, or it hasn’t been worded very well.

“No bid has been sent for Ramos and the club don’t want to put all their eggs in one basket. They still admire him greatly but they don’t know if a deal is able to happen.”

It certainly won’t happen if they don’t put a bid in. We either want him or we don’t’, in which case move on. 

 

 

 

 

It's probably safe to assume that the club understands the logistics of buying a footballer, seeing as we've bought many this very window. I'd guess you're interpreting this a little too literally.

My guess would be that submitting a bid essentially locks in that money, so they don't want to do that unless they're confident it will be accepted and the deal will progress.

[ally_uk]

Pffffft only one striker will do

Paul Onuachu 

Absolute Unit , can finish and can knut a football 

Height and power exactly what we need 30 million get it done 

[skintsaint]

1 hour ago, ally_uk said:

Pffffft only one striker will do

Paul Onuachu 

Absolute Unit , can finish and can knut a football 

Height and power exactly what we need 30 million get it done 

Think there has been more flogs than hero's when PL teams buy strikers from Belgium.

[STEVEADAMS]

5 hours ago, nta786 said:

Yep. However if he had said “I read it on Twitter as reported by Jacob Tanswell from the Athletic”, then I’d have been more inclined to hear what Martin Semmens would have had to say.

Some of the questions at that Forum was really playing into Ralph/Martin’s hands ie. That guy who said “i went to all away games, is it worth me going to leeds and city” to which Ralph pointed out we got decent draws up there…

Sorry but he was referring to the distance not the result.

[FarehamSaintJames]

5 hours ago, Dusic said:

Excl: Saints might sign Ramos or might not and if we do sign him it will be at some point late in the window, i.e now onwards.

There is "a lot going on behind the scenes".

Source: @SaintRob__

I mean I could’ve told you that. 

In terms of the source, not a reliable one. Although I’d probably have him above Alex Crook in the reliability stakes, reluctantly. 🤣

[goodymatt]

 

[CB Fry]

I've already said I don't think we will get this guy.

But worth thinking for a minute what the response would be if that kind of headline was about one of our players. At least two thirds of this forum would be reading it as proof that the player was for sale and leaving, and we were just into price negotiation.

[Saint_clark]

Forget Ramos, is that an article about fucking Jason St Juste on the right!?!?

[skintsaint]

58 minutes ago, goodymatt said:

 

Seeing as Nunez went for 75m euro then it could be believable if they expect 60m for this chap. Won't be us getting him at that rate. 6m euro maybe!

[skintsaint]

Just now, Saint_clark said:

Forget Ramos, is that an article about fucking Jason St Juste on the right!?!?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_St._Juste

[pimpin4rizeal]

Not a link just a suggestion on my part but how about Jeremy doku from Rennes .. looked insanel prospect at the euros but seems to have not been playing much maybe could get him for around 20-30.. I thought he was gonna be the next big thing the way he played vs Italy 

 

[DT]

Everton now after Ben Brererton Diaz, who was a target for us at one stage if I recall correctly 

Slippery buggers, strikers

[Convict Colony]

26 minutes ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

Not a link just a suggestion on my part but how about Jeremy doku from Rennes .. looked insanel prospect at the euros but seems to have not been playing much maybe could get him for around 20-30.. I thought he was gonna be the next big thing the way he played vs Italy 

 

according to the rennes forum he likes to bring the game to a standstill before then attacking again, not sure if compatible with our style as we are trying to get rid of those sorts of plaayers.

[Convict Colony]

Not sure if leverkeusen are in champs league but i'd like us to look at florian wirtz as a new no.10 and only 19yr old.

No doubt some big clubs are looking at him but not seen his name mentioned anywhere really.

Obligatory youtube.

 

[Saint Fan CaM]

50 minutes ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

Not a link just a suggestion on my part but how about Jeremy doku from Rennes .. looked insanel prospect at the euros but seems to have not been playing much maybe could get him for around 20-30.. I thought he was gonna be the next big thing the way he played vs Italy 

 

Looks like a Djenepo on steroids and not much better in producing goals or assists. Having said that, exciting player to watch and I wouldn’t mind seeing him a Saints shirt. But not for £30m…£15-20m would be more our ballpark.

[goodymatt]

1 hour ago, skintsaint said:

Seeing as Nunez went for 75m euro then it could be believable if they expect 60m for this chap. Won't be us getting him at that rate. 6m euro maybe!

Nunez has to be worth much more than just €15m more than his back up surely? Think Ramos has a fair bit to prove before he commands such a fee, I see this as a not for sale like us saying Prowsey is worth £75m and WHU saying Rice is £150m. 

[Saint Fan CaM]

19 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

Not sure if leverkeusen are in champs league but i'd like us to look at florian wirtz as a new no.10 and only 19yr old.

No doubt some big clubs are looking at him but not seen his name mentioned anywhere really.

Obligatory youtube.

 

Think we’ve got as much chance of signing this guy as I have of winning the lottery this weekend…it could happen in theory, but it won’t. This guy will be too expensive I reckon…a real talent that is bound for a top Euro team.

[Ex Lion Tamer]

8 hours ago, Ralph Fastenbüttl said:

It's probably safe to assume that the club understands the logistics of buying a footballer, seeing as we've bought many this very window. I'd guess you're interpreting this a little too literally.

My guess would be that submitting a bid essentially locks in that money, so they don't want to do that unless they're confident it will be accepted and the deal will progress.

I wonder if putting together a formal bid is actually a bit more work than sending an email that says "we'll pay £30m", so the club isn't going to do it unless it has put out the feelers and thinks the transfer is a realistic proposition

[Saint Garrett]

4 minutes ago, goodymatt said:

Nunez has to be worth much more than just €15m more than his back up surely? Think Ramos has a fair bit to prove before he commands such a fee, I see this as a not for sale like us saying Prowsey is worth £75m and WHU saying Rice is £150m. 

Tbh, maybe now because they’re in the champions league they don’t wanna sell him so stuck a big fee on his head 

[Rebel]

Jacob Tanswell in the Athletic is basically saying we are desperate for a full back and one that can play on the left and right - and one that is young and malleable

sounds like Pedersen is the only one still available of those we have looked at (Neco Williams, Brandon Williams, Marcus Pedersen and Issa Kabore)

I still think we should have gone for Aaron Hickey (two footed and can play on the left or right) and maybe explains the rumours we are interested in Max Aaron’s  - but I think both were/are out of our price range (same as Kabore and Williams)

which probably explains the move for Ainsley Maitland-Nile’s on loan as he can cover both left and right back and play in CM as well - and on loan would be a cheaper option and lower risk

I’m not sure about AMN though given he’s 24 and not done particularly well at Roma last season and wants to play CM rather than full back and supposedly has an attitude problem - but maybe he will be a short term fix to a problem 

I am pretty sure next summer we will sell one of KWP or Tino and then have the money (and need) to spend on a new full back

[Saint Charminster]

7 minutes ago, Rebel said:

Jacob Tanswell in the Athletic is basically saying we are desperate for a full back and one that can play on the left and right - and one that is young and malleable

sounds like Pedersen is the only one still available of those we have looked at (Neco Williams, Brandon Williams, Marcus Pedersen and Issa Kabore)

I still think we should have gone for Aaron Hickey (two footed and can play on the left or right) and maybe explains the rumours we are interested in Max Aaron’s  - but I think both were/are out of our price range (same as Kabore and Williams)

which probably explains the move for Ainsley Maitland-Nile’s on loan as he can cover both left and right back and play in CM as well - and on loan would be a cheaper option and lower risk

I’m not sure about AMN though given he’s 24 and not done particularly well at Roma last season and wants to play CM rather than full back and supposedly has an attitude problem - but maybe he will be a short term fix to a problem 

I am pretty sure next summer we will sell one of KWP or Tino and then have the money (and need) to spend on a new full back

To say AMN did not do particularly  well is not warranted considering the limited game time he had at Roma.

AMN only had 8 appearances for Roma last season ( mixture of starts & sub appearances), he was bought in as back up and played back end of the season as Roma’s European campaign took them to the final. 

 

 

[HarvSFC]

14 minutes ago, Saint Charminster said:

To say AMN did not do particularly  well is not warranted considering the limited game time he had at Roma.

AMN only had 8 appearances for Roma last season ( mixture of starts & sub appearances), he was bought in as back up and played back end of the season as Roma’s European campaign took them to the final. 

 

 

That's not right. He was an unused substitute for ten of Roma's last twelve matches last season, despite Italy having the five sub rule. Didn't play in the semi-finals, or final of the Conference League either. He was an immediate starter, but then dropped out.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/ainsley-maitland-niles/leistungsdaten/spieler/285845/plus/0?saison=2021

[pimpin4rizeal]

1 hour ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Looks like a Djenepo on steroids and not much better in producing goals or assists. Having said that, exciting player to watch and I wouldn’t mind seeing him a Saints shirt. But not for £30m…£15-20m would be more our ballpark.

Don’t know if you caught him vs Italy in the euros he ran them ragged .. his pace is blistering he was linked with Liverpool just after but seems to have. Not really kicked on and haven’t heard  any talk about him moving elsewhere..absolute beast when running at defenders though  slaloms past players with insane pace and power 

 

Edited 26 August, 2022 by pimpin4rizeal

[saintant]

1 hour ago, Convict Colony said:

according to the rennes forum he likes to bring the game to a standstill before then attacking again, not sure if compatible with our style as we are trying to get rid of those sorts of plaayers.

Looking at the video I would think what they mean is that he tends to briefly stop with the ball at his feet, his opponent then faces him up in a static position and the guy then explodes past by turning on the afterburners. He looks Jonno quick plus strong and powerful.

[LuckyNumber7]

Doku was brilliant at the Euros, not seen him since but surprised he's not gone on to a bigger club. Would love to see him at Saints but seems unlikely.

As for Wirtz, he is the next big thing in German football. I expect he will move to Bayern or the like for big money, no chance he comes here. 

[saintwbu]

15 minutes ago, saintant said:

Looking at the video I would think what they mean is that he tends to briefly stop with the ball at his feet, his opponent then faces him up in a static position and the guy then explodes past by turning on the afterburners. He looks Jonno quick plus strong and powerful.

That’s what Mane was so brilliant at, not sure i’ve seen a player do it better than him, what a player he was for us.

[SonicBoom]

I don't know why fans get so mad at the club for "not signing players earlier in the window" etc etc. If you are selling and the player is wanted then you can obviously control when that happens. 

If you are buying then the deal is out of your hands. The selling clubs sets the timescale of events. Saints want a striker so the selling club knows they can force a better deal the longer they make us wait and the nearer we get to the window closing. If you were selling Gomez would you flog him to us three weeks ago or make Saints wait until the end of the window when you know it would be very difficult for us to go somewhere else? That's why deals sometimes don't happen because the selling club demand a ridiculous fee with days remaining. Saints may have to walk away instead of getting mugged off. Problem with that is the fans then blame the club for not getting a deal done when in reality the sellers were taking the mickey. 

I'm not saying we're perfect but it's not as simple as finding the player, making an offer, and bringing him in when we want to. Unless you're Chelsea and you can make ridiculous offers for players that aren't worth it. 

[egg]

2 hours ago, Saint Charminster said:

To say AMN did not do particularly  well is not warranted considering the limited game time he had at Roma.

AMN only had 8 appearances for Roma last season ( mixture of starts & sub appearances), he was bought in as back up and played back end of the season as Roma’s European campaign took them to the final. 

 

 

I think that all confirms that AMM did not do particularly well. Not playing can hardly be described as a successful loan spell. 

[Dorchester Saint]

This thread is possibly the worst summer window thread ever, there’s been barely anything of substance since it was started!! 🤣🤣

Anyway, regardless of wether we sign anyone else or not, what royally fucks me off is that the transfer window shouldn’t even be open once the season has started, it a piss take!! 

[saint in Den Haag]

I think there is a strong chance that we don't get the striker we were hoping for or we had a number of targets and will be left with a limited choice... i don't think this will be a case of us moving too slowly or not being proactive, we saw with our earlier incomings that we moved quick when we could and actually tried to get Delap in quickly as well. 

I think the problem is that a lot of clubs are after strikers and each club would have scouted the high prospect / high sell on potential players as well as us. We may well have been trying to do a deal with broja early on but the minute Wham showed interest Chelsea changed the goalposts and their stance made Wham move on... Same with Ramos we might have done our proactive enquiries early on but Benfica said yes ok but after we have played our Europe matches and then since then Wolves came along and even PSG, so any progress / positive engagement we might have had just got reset. 

My feeling is that we might have moved the sizeable budget for a ST onto a new no 10 and this is a consequence of not being able to get the ST we want as well as the change in formation to a 4-3-3 or 4-3-2-1 however you see it. So we only need 1 up top and Che's recent matches show he can lead the line with Mara as the deputy and Ballard as no. 3. this also fits a bit with Adam Armstrong being tried in one of those no. 10 roles and the Cambridge match acting like an IF being pretty wide. (trusting heat maps i'v seen)... Aribo would be another player competing for a 10 role. but after that - Redmond been told can go, Walcott similar, Mo not really taking his chances, Djenepo a useful versatile sub, (when FB's fit) Stu A being played more in the centre as one of the 8's in the Cambridge match.... so I'd be happy with a creative attacker as a new 1st choice - this then allows Adam A to be a sub and impact the game with pace up front or as a 10 or if formation change to 2 up front. 

[Chez]

1 hour ago, LuckyNumber7 said:

Doku was brilliant at the Euros, not seen him since but surprised he's not gone on to a bigger club. Would love to see him at Saints but seems unlikely.

Tremendous drag back turn he has there, with a real burst of pace. I'd love watching him, I think, but maybe like Traore at Wolves, his tricks, pace and power are not appreciated as much by managers due to a lack of end product? 

He missed 30 games to injury last season though, which might explain why no one has come in for him. I would imagine his club will be slightly frustrated, and maybe creating an opportunity? The previous season he played a lot, but only scored two goals and credited for three assists. 

[Chez]

6 minutes ago, Dorchester Saint said:

This thread is possibly the worst summer window thread ever, there’s been barely anything of substance since it was started!! 🤣🤣

Anyway, regardless of wether we sign anyone else or not, what royally fucks me off is that the transfer window shouldn’t even be open once the season has started, it a piss take!! 

I think its been a great thread. As always, genuine links to players are few and far between, but there has been a lot of discussion about a wide range of players that would be possibilities for us or others. Shame the  `HCDAJFU' monicker has disappeared though. 

[Saint Charminster]

22 minutes ago, egg said:

I think that all confirms that AMM did not do particularly well. Not playing can hardly be described as a successful loan spell. 

Never said it was successful, but he wasn’t bad either.

just intimated that he was bought in for back up as roma has a lot of games back end of last season and was bought in for cover only.

Always difficult for a player who does not get regular game time and play numerous positions even when on loan.