Summer 2022 Transfer Window

[Dark Munster]

55 minutes ago, vectraman said:

Because it will make the asking price higher if Berlin have to give some of that cash to Liverpool….

They can ask for whatever they want. But at the end of the day the selling price is what the seller and buyer agree to, and the buyer won't be willing to pay more because of a sell-on clause. Also a seller will hold out for as much as possible*, regardless whether there is a sell-on clause or not.

* Except when Saints sold Mane.

[saint1977]

1 hour ago, The Cat said:

Bednarek to Napoli?

Source is my son so no idea whether there's any truth behind it or if he's just been looking at crappy fan pages on Instagram.

Was a rumour online before the total collapse in the team’s form March onwards that Napoli were looking at him and Salisu. Will be on the thread for one of those players at the time, can’t recall who posted it at the time.

[The Kraken]

1 hour ago, The Cat said:

Bednarek to Napoli?

Source is my son so no idea whether there's any truth behind it or if he's just been looking at crappy fan pages on Instagram.

There’s certainly a good deal of media reporting about it, reports say they’re interested in Bednarek and Salisu.  Napoli are third in Serie A so I’m struggling to see why they would be interested in Bednarek if they’d have to pay a fee for him. Salisu I could maybe understand, just.

[Chez]

19 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

There’s certainly a good deal of media reporting about it, reports say they’re interested in Bednarek and Salisu.  Napoli are third in Serie A so I’m struggling to see why they would be interested in Bednarek if they’d have to pay a fee for him. Salisu I could maybe understand, just.

Napoli need to bring in funds this summer, either by selling striker Osimhen or finally cashing in on Koulibaly, or maybe both. Assuming Tuanzebe returns to United, they may need two CBs this summer.

Edited 4 May, 2022 by Chez

[The Kraken]

11 minutes ago, Chez said:

Napoli need to bring in funds this summer, either by selling striker Osimhen or finally cashing in on Koulibaly, or maybe both. Assuming Tuanzebe returns to United, they may need two CBs this summer.

Like I say, Salisu I can just understand but Bednarek? Napoli are going to qualify for Champions League, I just don’t see the interest at their level.

[Convict Colony]

We need an assist machine who scores some goals to replace armstrong/moi/redmond/djnepo/tella etc etc 

[Far que]

On 02/05/2022 at 20:14, Appy said:

Doesn’t seem ideal for a crucial window. 

Glover probably sick of shopping around with no budget to speak of,no wonder hes off

[AlexLaw76]

If Bednarek goes, will we need 2x CBs as Stephens is out of contract also (and no where to be seen)???

[Wade Garrett]

Tompkins from Palace would be good to play alongside Salisu.

Experienced and a very good defender.  Would be cheap as well.  Should have a couple of decent seasons left in his legs.

[skintsaint]

Was thinking maybe we could pick someone like Lingard up on a free, a player who I think would improve us going forward, but then see he is linked with Juve, Barca, AC & Newcastle. Give that agent a medal if he gets a move to them.

[Jeremy Corbyn]

26 minutes ago, skintsaint said:

Was thinking maybe we could pick someone like Lingard up on a free, a player who I think would improve us going forward, but then see he is linked with Juve, Barca, AC & Newcastle. Give that agent a medal if he gets a move to them.

He's a very good option on a free tbf.  Also, given the absolute car crash at United this season it's bizarre he hasn't been given more of a chance.

[Chez]

2 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

If Bednarek goes, will we need 2x CBs as Stephens is out of contract also (and no where to be seen)???

According to The Athletic, Stephens signed a new contract some time ago

https://theathletic.com/news/exclusive-jack-stephens-agrees-new-long-term-southampton-contract/bo8LfBeiblPj/

 

[Roo1976]

42 minutes ago, skintsaint said:

Was thinking maybe we could pick someone like Lingard up on a free, a player who I think would improve us going forward, but then see he is linked with Juve, Barca, AC & Newcastle. Give that agent a medal if he gets a move to them.

He will end up at Sandcastle Arabia. Only a fools  not be interested in the money move (oh yes Ive been wanting to sign for this huge club since i was a boy).

[SNSUN]

1 hour ago, skintsaint said:

Was thinking maybe we could pick someone like Lingard up on a free, a player who I think would improve us going forward, but then see he is linked with Juve, Barca, AC & Newcastle. Give that agent a medal if he gets a move to them.

There are a few decent frees I'd like to see us pursue. Lingard showed at West Ham he has something and we need to improve our AMs but I think he's go to bigger than us - maybe back to the Hammers. Also, I don't think trying to get Tarkowski on a free is beyond the realms of possibility. He would instantly improve our CBs. Yes there is competition for him but I'd be surprised if we weren't looking at him.

 

Other Prem frees as a possible: Nketiah, Origi, Saiss, Schlupp, Elneny, Gross, Longstaff, Amartey, Ayew. (Source TransferMrkt, which also has Stephens and McCarthy still listed as out of contract this summer, so maybe it isn't reliable)

[Katalinic]

35 minutes ago, SNSUN said:

There are a few decent frees I'd like to see us pursue. Lingard showed at West Ham he has something and we need to improve our AMs but I think he's go to bigger than us - maybe back to the Hammers. Also, I don't think trying to get Tarkowski on a free is beyond the realms of possibility. He would instantly improve our CBs. Yes there is competition for him but I'd be surprised if we weren't looking at him.

 

Other Prem frees as a possible: Nketiah, Origi, Saiss, Schlupp, Elneny, Gross, Longstaff, Amartey, Ayew. (Source TransferMrkt, which also has Stephens and McCarthy still listed as out of contract this summer, so maybe it isn't reliable)

Gross wouldn't surprise me at all - has played for Ralph previously and I think there have been mutually respectful quotes in the past.

[danjosaint]

I'd take Origi over our current bunch 

[Saint_clark]

13 minutes ago, danjosaint said:

I'd take Origi over our current bunch 

Same, but chances are he'll want wages of over £100k a week. Nketiah might be a realistic shout.

 

[Saint Garrett]

I'd take Schlupp and Elneny too.

[Lighthouse]

13 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said:

I'd take Schlupp

If ever three words summed up how crap our squad is and how low our expectations have fallen…

[Saint Garrett]

5 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

If ever three words summed up how crap our squad is and how low our expectations have fallen…

He'd be a decent squad addition, and cheap, and a left footer.

Not sure whether he can play in one of the "tens" though.

We don't have much competition with Walcott, Moi, Stuey, Redmond, Djenepo, Tella. 

[Rebel]

Nketiah  would have a transfer fee -  a development fee -  for any English club as he's under 23 wouldn't he?  Or have I misunderstood the rules.  We'd have to agree that with Arsenal or got to tribunal - so he could cost a couple of million or more.

[VectisSaint]

2 hours ago, SNSUN said:

Other Prem frees as a possible: Nketiah, Origi, Saiss, Schlupp, Elneny, Gross, Longstaff, Amartey, Ayew. (Source TransferMrkt, which also has Stephens and McCarthy still listed as out of contract this summer, so maybe it isn't reliable)

All the evidence is that Stephens is out of contract in June. McCarthy is different the rumoured new contract was confirmed as a transaction (by the FA I believe). Stephens has also been completely missing from squads recently which tends to confirm that he is not in the plans for next season. Wouldn't surprise me to see him at Boscombe next year (unless he is going to Man U as an upgrade on Maguire).

[SNSUN]

4 minutes ago, VectisSaint said:

All the evidence is that Stephens is out of contract in June. McCarthy is different the rumoured new contract was confirmed as a transaction (by the FA I believe). Stephens has also been completely missing from squads recently which tends to confirm that he is not in the plans for next season. Wouldn't surprise me to see him at Boscombe next year (unless he is going to Man U as an upgrade on Maguire).

Are we supposed to be overhauling the squad in the summer? I'm sure I read that. In which case you would think the out of contract players like Stephens, Long and Fraser would be released, as well as flogging off a few, in order to release quite a bit from the wage bill and help bring new players in. We need quality over quantity next season as we don't have an awful lot of it at present.

 

I quite like Stephens for his passion and the ability to look as if he's about to punch someone but he's probably a good Championship quality CB at best. He did well to make the leap from League One to Premier League squad player with us but we need better. Hopefully he'll go back to Middlesbrough once we buy Djed Spence and Dael Fry... 😀

[danjosaint]

1 hour ago, Rebel said:

Nketiah  would have a transfer fee -  a development fee -  for any English club as he's under 23 wouldn't he?  Or have I misunderstood the rules.  We'd have to agree that with Arsenal or got to tribunal - so he could cost a couple of million or more.

Also by accounts from when at Leeds he's not the sort of player whose puts in the hard yards hence why Bielsa wouldn't play him 

[Chez]

1 hour ago, VectisSaint said:

All the evidence is that Stephens is out of contract in June. McCarthy is different the rumoured new contract was confirmed as a transaction (by the FA I believe). Stephens has also been completely missing from squads recently which tends to confirm that he is not in the plans for next season. Wouldn't surprise me to see him at Boscombe next year (unless he is going to Man U as an upgrade on Maguire).

Regarding Stephens, his contract was supposedly signed in 2020, so it may have been confirmed as a transaction in the same way as McCarthy's was, but the year before, and possibly no one noticed or remarked on it. As with McCarthy, I just cant imagine the writer would write a story about a new contract if there wasn't one. No point. 

[Chez]

5 hours ago, skintsaint said:

Was thinking maybe we could pick someone like Lingard up on a free, a player who I think would improve us going forward, but then see he is linked with Juve, Barca, AC & Newcastle. Give that agent a medal if he gets a move to them.

I get the feeling his current wages are monstrous. I've seen £80k a week in The Times, but £100k a week elsewhere when he signed the original four year deal. I suspect he got a rise when it was extended by a year. After impressing at West Ham, I'd of thought he want at least that now, if not more. Doesn't feel like a Saints signing to me. I doubt his ego would permit a move to us either.

[Chez]

4 hours ago, SNSUN said:

Other Prem frees as a possible: Nketiah, Origi, Saiss, Schlupp, Elneny, Gross, Longstaff, Amartey, Ayew. (Source TransferMrkt, which also has Stephens and McCarthy still listed as out of contract this summer, so maybe it isn't reliable)

Ayew impressed me on Saturday playing on the wing. He was extremely quick and used that pace to gain a yard of space on both fullbacks. Perraud couldn't keep up. Not sure how much he does against other sides.  Can we just buy Zaha as I suspect Adkins tried to do, back in the day? 

[cloggy saint]

6 hours ago, skintsaint said:

Was thinking maybe we could pick someone like Lingard up on a free, a player who I think would improve us going forward, but then see he is linked with Juve, Barca, AC & Newcastle. Give that agent a medal if he gets a move to them.

Not a chance in hell of us getting Lingard. Of the clubs you mentioned him being linked with the only slight surprise is Barcelona, I can see him doing a job at the others, he's quality.

[AlexLaw76]

good god

[SuperSAINT]

6 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

good god

Good player by all accounts. Shame about where the link comes from.

Fits the bill with the Telegraph story about the “new, young No.2”  

[Toussaint]

First team players moving on this summer (pure speculation)

Redmond, Stephens, McCarthy, Djneppo, AA, JWP (oh no!), Bednarek, Walcott (wishful thinking), Broja. 

 

[Bad Wolf]

Ralph saying JWP isn't going anywhere. Worded very differently to the usual "He's our player, he's happy here, I see no reason to sell, we don't want to sell" stuff that they usually come out with which basically translates to "We don't want to lose him but we might not have much choice". He must be pretty confident on keeping him.

[Give it to Ron]

19 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

good god

Why? He was far too good for them he has been brilliant according to people I work with

[Toussaint]

12 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said:

Ralph saying JWP isn't going anywhere. Worded very differently to the usual "He's our player, he's happy here, I see no reason to sell, we don't want to sell" stuff that they usually come out with which basically translates to "We don't want to lose him but we might not have much choice". He must be pretty confident on keeping him.

Hope so, hope he's central to the rebuild. 

[Bad Wolf]

Just now, Toussaint said:

Hope so, hope he's central to the rebuild. 

He's got a long time on his contract so the ball is in our court. I don't think that anyone is going to be prepared to pay what we'll demand for him.

[AlexLaw76]

23 minutes ago, Give it to Ron said:

Why? He was far too good for them he has been brilliant according to people I work with

We need signings to come in and be good enough to start and hold their place. Not McCarthy as No.1 and players like this.

 

 

[SNSUN]

 

1 hour ago, Chez said:

Ayew impressed me on Saturday playing on the wing. He was extremely quick and used that pace to gain a yard of space on both fullbacks. Perraud couldn't keep up. Not sure how much he does against other sides.  Can we just buy Zaha as I suspect Adkins tried to do, back in the day? 

Sign Zaha and let him room with JWP. What could go wrong!

40 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said:

Ralph saying JWP isn't going anywhere. Worded very differently to the usual "He's our player, he's happy here, I see no reason to sell, we don't want to sell" stuff that they usually come out with which basically translates to "We don't want to lose him but we might not have much choice". He must be pretty confident on keeping him.

I can see 80 million reasons to sell... if our owners don’t cough up some dough that is. But the ball is definitely in our court and I hope we keep him.

12 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

We need signings to come in and be good enough to start and hold their place. Not McCarthy as No.1 and players like this.

 

 

As much as many want Hasenhuttl out and McCarthy to not be number 1, I think we probably have to accept it’s most likely Hasenhuttl will be here next season with McCarthy as our number 1.

Edited 5 May, 2022 by SNSUN

[Bad Wolf]

4 minutes ago, SNSUN said:

 

Sign Zaha and let him room with JWP. What could go wrong!

I can see 80 million reasons to sell... if our owners don’t cough up some dough that is. But the ball is definitely in our court and I hope we keep him.

As much as many want Hasenhuttl out and McCarthy to not be number 1, I think we probably have to accept it’s most likely Hasenhuttl will be here next season with McCarthy as our number 1.

I think we'll sign Johnstone

[SNSUN]

1 minute ago, Bad Wolf said:

I think we'll sign Johnstone

McCarthy as number 1 wouldn’t seem so bad if we signed Johnstone! 🤪

[ErwinK1961]

24 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

We need signings to come in and be good enough to start and hold their place. Not McCarthy as No.1 and players like this.

 

 

Ever seen him play?

[Bad Wolf]

6 minutes ago, SNSUN said:

McCarthy as number 1 wouldn’t seem so bad if we signed Johnstone! 🤪

He's a decent enough keeper. Henderson is obviously miles better but I don't think he'll come to us.

[Give it to Ron]

25 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

We need signings to come in and be good enough to start and hold their place. Not McCarthy as No.1 and players like this.

 

 

Why wouldn’t he be good enough? How many times have you seen him to say that?

what are his weaknesses 

[Ldnsaint]

5 hours ago, Saint_clark said:

Same, but chances are he'll want wages of over £100k a week. Nketiah might be a realistic shout.

 

Nketiah is crap, no thanks. 

[Saint_clark]

11 minutes ago, Ldnsaint said:

Nketiah is crap, no thanks. 

Nketiah seems more than capable of getting 10 goals a season which is our level. 

In fact, he has two less goals this season than Broja and one less than Adams with much less game time.

Edited 5 May, 2022 by Saint_clark

[SambaMaverick]

1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said:

good god

I'd be happy with this but keeping McCarthy as number one for now really leaves a sour taste. This kid will be up to speed in six months but half a year of Macca could be catastrophic - would be a lot more at ease if it were Forster sticking around.

[Lee On Solent Saint]

16 minutes ago, SambaMaverick said:

I'd be happy with this but keeping McCarthy as number one for now really leaves a sour taste. This kid will be up to speed in six months but half a year of Macca could be catastrophic - would be a lot more at ease if it were Forster sticking around.

Both our keepers are poor. A decent Premier League keeper would have kept out Palace's first goal on Saturday.

[SNSUN]

58 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said:

He's a decent enough keeper. Henderson is obviously miles better but I don't think he'll come to us.

He's decent at times (otherwise he wouldn't be picked for England... same as McCarthy and Forster) but he's as capable of a brain fart as our current lot. He's made a few mistakes this season.

 

But... as our budget probably isn't that high this summer then a free transfer keeper and a loan keeper (as a younger 3rd) is probably not far off the mark. 

 

Henderson is a yes from me. He'd be first choice before long, is a good age for a keeper and was excellent for Shefforld United. I suspect bigger clubs will want him though. 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

3 hours ago, Chez said:

  Can we just buy Zaha as I suspect Adkins tried to do, back in the day? 

Osvaldoesque training ground bust up between him and JWP on day one. 🙂

[John D]

2 hours ago, Give it to Ron said:

Why? He was far too good for them he has been brilliant according to people I work with

I had the misfortune of getting the train from Sheffield to London on Saturday which was rammed with Pompey fans after their game.

There was some debate on the tables / seats next to us about Bazunu with the majority view being he is has the potential to be a quality keeper and has been fantastic for them this season.  One dissenting view saying he will never make it at top level.

Their conversation then turned to relationships with their mums and regretted time spent in jail.  Most surprisingly the 2 tables next to us  tidied up all the empty beer cans and rubbish and put it in the bin at the end of the journey.

[Turkish]

6 minutes ago, John D said:

I had the misfortune of getting the train from Sheffield to London on Saturday which was rammed with Pompey fans after their game.

There was some debate on the tables / seats next to us about Bazunu with the majority view being he is has the potential to be a quality keeper and has been fantastic for them this season.  One dissenting view saying he will never make it at top level.

Their conversation then turned to relationships with their mums and regretted time spent in jail.  Most surprisingly the 2 tables next to us  tidied up all the empty beer cans and rubbish and put it in the bin at the end of the journey.

Are they still with their mums or are they shagging their other brothers now?