Chez Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 1 minute ago, DT said: Come on Liam. You could be our best ever Delap If we are a happy to loan him, we seem to be a good option. The Broja loan - lots of games, did well - must play in our favour, not to mention the strong City link with players and head scout. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 (edited) Can’t see either CHO or Delap happening (for many reasons) but primarily because neither would come with an option to buy (by looks if it). After we got burned on Broja, I can’t see us doing that again unless it’s a last minute too good to turn down opportunity. Edited 16 August, 2022 by ErwinK1961 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 2 minutes ago, Baird of the land said: Would have thought he could commute from London rather than move to soton. (Thought we had players do that before?) If he live west of West London then certainly could. I suspect the club still has flats in Ocean village he can rent/use during the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 19 minutes ago, Appy said: Can anyone think of any arguments for Hudson-Odoi to join us over Newcastle, Leicester or Dortmund? He won’t get a MLG Transfer Saga thread anywhere else? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 1 minute ago, ErwinK1961 said: Can’t see either CHO or Delap happening (for many reasons) but primarily because neither would come with an option to buy (by looks if it). After we got burned on Broja, I can’t see us doing that again unless it’s a last minute too good to turn down opportunity. You might be right. We want to bring talent here, and then reap the benefits ourselves. I guess if there is no other option we might consider it. Not sure if we are still looking at fullback, but the Livramento injury might force our hand a little in terms of utilising the loan market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 4 hours ago, SuperSAINT said: Don't think there's much in this one. Apparently Benfica want to wait until a champions league play off next week before any sale and they've already turned down a 26M bid from (surprise, surprise) Forest. Seems like any successful bid will be around the 30-33M mark. I suppose the club not wanting to sell before a champions league play off could explain a delay in either this or another striker signing. Anyway, looks alright on YouTube and seems to be pretty good in the air which is something I hope we address with whoever comes in - haven't had a decent aerial presence since Pelle and with the quality of JWP crosses it's something I hope we can benefit from this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 4 minutes ago, ErwinK1961 said: Can’t see either CHO or Delap happening (for many reasons) but primarily because neither would come with an option to buy (by looks if it). After we got burned on Broja, I can’t see us doing that again unless it’s a last minute too good to turn down opportunity. But given how is loan panned out and his performances after Xmas, do you think we would have taken up the option to buy if he had one? I guess ultimately depends on what the price was, but not sure they were too impressed with him over the 2nd half of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 4 minutes ago, ErwinK1961 said: Can’t see either CHO or Delap happening (for many reasons) but primarily because neither would come with an option to buy (by looks if it). After we got burned on Broja, I can’t see us doing that again unless it’s a last minute too good to turn down opportunity. I don't see the point of delap loan. We've already got our own developmental striker. Surely we'll want somebody with at least some first team experience. Hudson-odoi, is slightly different. Short term high quality. Concern would be how high a loan fee might be. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 10 minutes ago, CB Fry said: Anyone who thinks Newcastle is a shithole vs Southampton needs to get out more. Southampton is a fucking toilet lads. The main advantage for potential players for us is they can live somewhere else very easily which is not quite as true for the North East (although some still commute regardless). I wasn’t expecting him to buy a bedsit in Northam estate tbh 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 3 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said: I wasn’t expecting him to buy a bedsit in Northam estate tbh The current Toon squad all live in ex-council maisonettes just outside Garforth I've heard. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 6 minutes ago, EBS1980 said: But given how is loan panned out and his performances after Xmas, do you think we would have taken up the option to buy if he had one? I guess ultimately depends on what the price was, but not sure they were too impressed with him over the 2nd half of the season. Yeah it’s a fair point, however I guess it would have depended on the price. Plus would his form have dipped as much if there was a chance of him being here long term? Who knows. Plus Saint Garretts info suggests both sides still would be happy with a deal.. so who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 1 hour ago, Turkish said: how the mighty have fallen, not long ago he was the future of English football and wanted by Real Madrid. Guess he's happy with the ££s he has in the bank and just wants an easy life now. Fine if that's what he wants. Can't help thinking it's a waste of talent though. The wanker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 28 minutes ago, CB Fry said: Anyone who thinks Newcastle is a shithole vs Southampton needs to get out more. Southampton is a fucking toilet lads. The main advantage for potential players for us is they can live somewhere else very easily which is not quite as true for the North East (although some still commute regardless). They're both just awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakovnetski Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 34 minutes ago, Chez said: If he live west of West London then certainly could. I suspect the club still has flats in Ocean village he can rent/use during the week. He might live around the training ground at Cobham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARCELONASAINT Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 There is an incoming but not a player and not tomorrow.... Cheltenham Town Under-18s coach Pete Haynes will leave to join Southampton's academy next month. The 27-year-old has been the Robins' lead professional development phase coach since 2017. Haynes was in Cheltenham's academy as a player from Under-14s to Under-16s and has been coaching within the club since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecurnew02 Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 (edited) Edit: Apparently did gym work instead so perhaps nothing imminent Edited 16 August, 2022 by ecurnew02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 2 hours ago, Saint Garrett said: Deli Ali off to Besiktas. Everton not even paid for him yet Wow, that pretty much finishes him off. I thought he was much older, but he's only 26. He'll be retired by 30 I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 4 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Wow, that pretty much finishes him off. I thought he was much older, but he's only 26. He'll be retired by 30 I reckon. Has anyone else’s career nose-dived so quickly? Because he was bloody good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 Hey in previous threads we have established the north is shit. Although expect to see a picture of a Northumberland beach to counter the argument Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 3 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Has anyone else’s career nose-dived so quickly? Because he was bloody good. Michael Ricketts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 3 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Has anyone else’s career nose-dived so quickly? Because he was bloody good. One I can think of is Michael Owen, his career effectively finished when he was 25/26. He got European Player of the year when he was 19/20, he was going to be a superstar. I'd say injuries finished him though, same as Wiltshire. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, S-Clarke said: One I can think of is Michael Owen, his career effectively finished when he was 25/26. He got European Player of the year when he was 19/20, he was going to be a superstar. I'd say injuries finished him though, same as Wiltshire. I’m saying this without checking stats - But Stan Collymore? Edited 16 August, 2022 by SuperSAINT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 6 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Has anyone else’s career nose-dived so quickly? Because he was bloody good. Michael Branch is one that springs to mind. You could argue Osvaldo’s career probably didn’t turn out the way he expected. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 1 hour ago, CB Fry said: Anyone who thinks Newcastle is a shithole vs Southampton needs to get out more. Southampton is a fucking toilet lads. The main advantage for potential players for us is they can live somewhere else very easily which is not quite as true for the North East (although some still commute regardless). It really isn't a "fucking toilet" at all. There's obviously better cities but also many, many worse. Seems like hardly any Premier League footballers live in their cities anyway. Even the Chelsea lot who could live in the poshest part of London end up in Surrey because it's where they train. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, The Cat said: It really isn't a "fucking toilet" at all. There's obviously better cities but also many, many worse. Seems like hardly any Premier League footballers live in their cities anyway. Even the Chelsea lot who could live in the poshest part of London end up in Surrey because it's where they train. Most of the Southampton lads live out Winchester way, or even the Hampshire/Surrey border (I think that's where Bertrand lived anyway). I think the accommodation in Ocean Village is just 'temporary' for either loans or new players who are yet to find a place. Lots of really nice places to live around Southampton to be honest, on the doorstep to lots of things. At least they're not stuck in Manchester. Edited 16 August, 2022 by S-Clarke 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 1 hour ago, CB Fry said: The current Toon squad all live in ex-council maisonettes just outside Garforth I've heard. Think they'd be a bit pissed off with that, especially the commute from Leeds every day. You might have meant Gosforth, which from my time up there was a pretty decent suburb on the outskirts, with the racecourse, and at the time (1980's), two decent rugby clubs there (before Sir John Hall got involved to hijack the club). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 (edited) Edited 16 August, 2022 by SuperSAINT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 10 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Has anyone else’s career nose-dived so quickly? Because he was bloody good. Francis Jeffers. Berahino, who didn't ever recover from his failed move to Tottenham. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 2 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Casemiro, you have to laugh! They couldn't attract De Jong or seemingly Rabiot, so they have put out the fluff line to appease fans that they're looking at Casemiro. Probably as much chance of them signing Roy Keane back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 7 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Are players just taking the piss with their wage demands now, knowing Utd are disparate? Funny if they can't get anyone. Or get someone like Ross Barkley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 Just now, Suhari said: Are players just taking the piss with their wage demands now, knowing Utd are disparate? Funny if they can't get anyone. Or get someone like Ross Barkley. It's a club without a strategy, you should have an idea about the interests of a player joining and their wage demands before you waste time on it! This is what scouting deps etc do for the months outside of the transfer window, then you start putting in the official bids when you can. Utd just sound like they have done no prep what so ever, same as every transfer window I can remember them having in recent years. Like you said they end up with no one (after chasing De Jong all summer, and Sancho a few years ago) and panic on some crap like Igalho. I reckon we can give them McCarthy, Bednarek and Redmond on the final day for a combined £50m fee and they'd do it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Mikey Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Badger said: Francis Jeffers. Berahino, who didn't ever recover from his failed move to Tottenham. Two good ones. Jack Rodwell is another who’s career dived after moving to City, was a England player before that. Danny Drinkwater’s crash was pretty spectacular too. Edited 16 August, 2022 by Saint Mikey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 Stuart Ripley when he joined Saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 15 minutes ago, Suhari said: Are players just taking the piss with their wage demands now, knowing Utd are disparate? Funny if they can't get anyone. Or get someone like Ross Barkley. The only reason to join United is big money, you're basically killing your career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 39 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Has anyone else’s career nose-dived so quickly? Because he was bloody good. Saido Berahino; and I called it with my mates when he was linked with a £20m to Spurs when he was 18 years old 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 42 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Has anyone else’s career nose-dived so quickly? Because he was bloody good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunglasses Ron Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 Wilfried Bony had a pretty spectacular career nose-dive after he moved from Swansea to Manchester City. I may be mistaken but I thought I saw him operating one of those catering trolleys on a South West Trains service the other day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Chuckle Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 45 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Has anyone else’s career nose-dived so quickly? Because he was bloody good. The forum member who posted a James Garner Saga thread today 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 Anyone else get the feeling we don't really have a striker lined up and are probably doing what Man Utd are with central midfielders but without any media scrutiny? A bit like two summers ago when we clearly needed a central midfielder, didn't get Sangare and then were linked with a flurry (Veermans one if I recall) before moving for Diallo who was clearly a way down our list just before the deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 6 minutes ago, Dusic said: Anyone else get the feeling we don't really have a striker lined up and are probably doing what Man Utd are with central midfielders but without any media scrutiny? A bit like two summers ago when we clearly needed a central midfielder, didn't get Sangare and then were linked with a flurry (Veermans one if I recall) before moving for Diallo who was clearly a way down our list just before the deadline. Feels like we were all-in for Delap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Dusic said: Anyone else get the feeling we don't really have a striker lined up and are probably doing what Man Utd are with central midfielders but without any media scrutiny? A bit like two summers ago when we clearly needed a central midfielder, didn't get Sangare and then were linked with a flurry (Veermans one if I recall) before moving for Diallo who was clearly a way down our list just before the deadline. I think you're referring to Sanagre, he opted for PSV and we got Diallo. Totally different profile of player though which was odd. In all honesty I think we have quite a list of striker targets, some more realistic than others and some which will only come to fruition as the window draws to a close. My hunch is that we're being patient and waiting for the one we really want. We're not going to leave ourselves without a striker, we know that will spell curtains for us. Edited 16 August, 2022 by S-Clarke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 7 minutes ago, Dusic said: Anyone else get the feeling we don't really have a striker lined up and are probably doing what Man Utd are with central midfielders but without any media scrutiny? A bit like two summers ago when we clearly needed a central midfielder, didn't get Sangare and then were linked with a flurry (Veermans one if I recall) before moving for Diallo who was clearly a way down our list just before the deadline. We were in for Delap and probably having to look elsewhere, it’s hardly as scattergun as United. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 37 minutes ago, Paul Chuckle said: The forum member who posted a James Garner Saga thread today Not sure he has been seen since 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 1 hour ago, SuperSAINT said: Has anyone else’s career nose-dived so quickly? Because he was bloody good. Bobby Davro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo1976 Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 6 hours ago, Saint Garrett said: Seems very "saga-like" What we've gone to the other extreme now ,and were looking at 50+ in years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 Think we have a bunch on our list, which most clubs will always have. With a priority of Broja. Delap is another option, with probably a few from Europe somewhere. I’m confident we will bring one in. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo1976 Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 4 hours ago, Saint_Ash said: Mad that's he's only 26. Someone should be able to get some decent football out of him in the premier league. Na i think his billy big bollocks days look at me have fallen away.Done nothing special since last world cup and even then seemed distracted and going through the motions so to speak. Some become too rich too soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 Reminds me of David Bentley if anyone. Had bags of talent and played for Spurs at a young age but it all just fell apart for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo1976 Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 1 hour ago, S-Clarke said: It's a club without a strategy, you should have an idea about the interests of a player joining and their wage demands before you waste time on it! This is what scouting deps etc do for the months outside of the transfer window, then you start putting in the official bids when you can. Utd just sound like they have done no prep what so ever, same as every transfer window I can remember them having in recent years. Like you said they end up with no one (after chasing De Jong all summer, and Sancho a few years ago) and panic on some crap like Igalho. I reckon we can give them McCarthy, Bednarek and Redmond on the final day for a combined £50m fee and they'd do it. Who cares its Man Utd, let em suffer. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streaky Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 1 hour ago, SuperSAINT said: Has anyone else’s career nose-dived so quickly? Because he was bloody good. Lee Sharpe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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