Saint Garrett Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 No Vale or CHO playing for Chelsea’s kids tonight… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 6 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: I still can't get my head around why they'd want him, would be a weird one. Broja is done as far as I'm concerned. I don't see any way back for him here given Ralph's comments in the fans forum last week. Agree. They implied there was something else at play as to broja's form just falling off a cliff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 16 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: I still can't get my head around why they'd want him, would be a weird one. Broja is done as far as I'm concerned. I don't see any way back for him here given Ralph's comments in the fans forum last week. I think he’s just as average as Dennis was at Watford. He’s just one of the better players in a very poor squad 😅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 16 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: I still can't get my head around why they'd want him, would be a weird one. Broja is done as far as I'm concerned. I don't see any way back for him here given Ralph's comments in the fans forum last week. What, Gordon? He looks a real talent to me and was in a different league to the rest of the Everton side. Electric pace on the break... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 Just a shame he’s such an utterly shameless cheat. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_lambden Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 Interesting to see Trevoh Chaloboah's name on that Chelsea U23 list. We've been after a right-sided centre-back and I've always liked the look of him when he's got game time for the first team. Latest reports suggest they are willing to let him leave on loan if the right offer comes in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 40 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said: No Vale or CHO playing for Chelsea’s kids tonight… Vale played for the U18's last week which seemed like a monumental waste of talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 2 hours ago, ally_uk said: If Stephens if off could Pambou do a job looks like a bit of a unit.. Slow as fuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 Morelos from Rangers is a player I’d be seriously looking at for a striker, in last year of contract too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 1 minute ago, Appy said: Morelos from Rangers is a player I’d be seriously looking at for a striker, in last year of contract too. Good goal scorer. Very good at getting red cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 2 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Good goal scorer. Very good at getting red cards. Not been sent off for three years now (which is what he should be doing I realise) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 51 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Vale played for the U18's last week which seemed like a monumental waste of talent. Refusing to sign a new deal - think he may be off somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 3 minutes ago, Lallana's Left Peg said: Refusing to sign a new deal - think he may be off somewhere. Is that true? I assumed he’d get loaned out (after signing a new deal) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice29 Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 9 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Is that true? I assumed he’d get loaned out (after signing a new deal) If he was getting a new deal he'd have a squad number. In the last year of his contract now and with everything going the way it has been (Contract, U18 games only, wanting a chance in pre season and not getting one, no squad number) there is 100% a deal to be done somewhere and it screams the sort of signing we would be all over like a rash. If we don't get him, I'm convinced it won't be through the lack of trying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 17 minutes ago, Lallana's Left Peg said: Refusing to sign a new deal - think he may be off somewhere. following in Livramento's footsteps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said: If he was getting a new deal he'd have a squad number. In the last year of his contract now and with everything going the way it has been (Contract, U18 games only, wanting a chance in pre season and not getting one, no squad number) there is 100% a deal to be done somewhere and it screams the sort of signing we would be all over like a rash. If we don't get him, I'm convinced it won't be through the lack of trying. As #Saintsy a signing as I can think of. So #Saintsy, I’ve used bold / italic Edited 15 August, 2022 by SuperSAINT 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 Doesn’t Vale play mostly on the right? That would mean S Armstrong, Aribo and Vale all preferring the right side forward/number 10 role. Haven’t seen enough of him to know if he’s any good but seems like the kind of deal we would look at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 2 minutes ago, revolution saint said: Doesn’t Vale play mostly on the right? That would mean S Armstrong, Aribo and Vale all preferring the right side forward/number 10 role. Haven’t seen enough of him to know if he’s any good but seems like the kind of deal we would look at. Can play all over the place. Left-footed. Attacking midfielder. Can even play wing-back but much better further forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorchester Saint Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 2 hours ago, S-Clarke said: I still can't get my head around why they'd want him, would be a weird one. Broja is done as far as I'm concerned. I don't see any way back for him here given Ralph's comments in the fans forum last week. Broja came on for Chelsea on Sunday, so I’d say he’s in Tuchels plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvSFC Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 21 minutes ago, Dorchester Saint said: Broja came on for Chelsea on Sunday, so I’d say he’s in Tuchels plans. Once the window closes and Chelsea have their new striker, I doubt he'll be getting those stoppage time sub appearances. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 Cash strapped Wolves spending €45m on a midfielder (assist: Mendes). Whilst our spending spree has been welcome, things like this really do highlight that staying in the PL is getting increasingly more difficult, especially when not spending more than £15m on a player. No pressure, Joe Shields. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 52 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Can play all over the place. Left-footed. Attacking midfielder. Can even play wing-back but much better further forward. Ralphs ears have just pricked up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecurnew02 Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 Vale is playing with the U21s FWIW. He scored 2 goals last week vs Wolves. Not sure why he didn’t play today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 5 hours ago, Dusic said: Cash strapped Wolves spending €45m on a midfielder (assist: Mendes). Whilst our spending spree has been welcome, things like this really do highlight that staying in the PL is getting increasingly more difficult, especially when not spending more than £15m on a player. No pressure, Joe Shields. I'm hoping once the squad is settled and not needing surgery every season we can start to look at good young players in this bracket with a few years experience in a top league. At the moment our budget needs to bring in 6 or so players, hopefully once settled we may only need half of that number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 9 hours ago, Dusic said: Cash strapped Wolves spending €45m on a midfielder (assist: Mendes). Whilst our spending spree has been welcome, things like this really do highlight that staying in the PL is getting increasingly more difficult, especially when not spending more than £15m on a player. No pressure, Joe Shields. I don't understand how a club like wolves has so much more money to spend than us. Are we just really that shit at marketing that we get underpaid for sponsorship deals to the amount of tens of millions? Are they gambling by spending money by taking loans based on being in the prem in 2, 3, 4 years time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 Just now, Saint_clark said: I don't understand how a club like wolves has so much more money to spend than us. Are we just really that shit at marketing that we get underpaid for sponsorship deals to the amount of tens of millions? Are they gambling by spending money by taking loans based on being in the prem in 2, 3, 4 years time? Because we are so conditioned to believe that spending what we have this window, is somehow HUGE for an established premier league side. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 Just now, AlexLaw76 said: Because we are so conditioned to believe that spending what we have this window, is somehow HUGE for an established premier league side. That doesn't explain how wolves are able to spend more than us, at all. Are their accounts publically available same as ours? Would be interesting to compare our income/outgoings to theirs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 Just now, Saint_clark said: That doesn't explain how wolves are able to spend more than us, at all. Are their accounts publically available same as ours? Would be interesting to compare our income/outgoings to theirs. Because we do not really spend big at all, that is my point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said: Because we do not really spend big at all, that is my point. Big compared to others maybe, but we have racked up £140m of losses over last three years and have a debt heading towards £100m. We have spent more than we brought in, all be it COVID-effected. As for Wolves, Fosun wrote off £126m of debt the cub owed them earlier this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 5 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Because we do not really spend big at all, that is my point. That still doesn't explain why. "We don't spend money because we don't spend money" is a fantastic example of circular reasoning. Your implication is that we have the ability to spend the money Wolves do, we just choose not to - if so, where does the money go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: That doesn't explain how wolves are able to spend more than us, at all. Are their accounts publically available same as ours? Would be interesting to compare our income/outgoings to theirs. Wolves have history of having a budget to spend on Mendes Portuguese players though, and not much else. Nelson Semedo, Ruben Neves (when they were in the champ), Guedes, Fabio Silva to name a few. These deals are all about mendes getting his Portuguese talent in a big league, pocketing an agent fee in the process with the potential of a greater one in the future. It has always felt a bit fishy really, it's not like they ever spend big money on anyone who isn't a Mendes man. Where that budget comes from is anyone's guess. Edited 16 August, 2022 by S-Clarke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 I’m a bit bored of Wolves Portuguese revolution. Decent team but very precise me in the way they play, which managers they’ll bring in etc. Conor Coady wasn’t Portuguese enough for the club anymore… In other news Vale I don’t know enough about, but it would be a very saintsy signing but another gamble on a kid. CHO I think will join a much bigger club than us, maybe Newcastle or someone like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 14 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said: I’m a bit bored of Wolves Portuguese revolution. Decent team but very precise me in the way they play, which managers they’ll bring in etc. Conor Coady wasn’t Portuguese enough for the club anymore… In other news Vale I don’t know enough about, but it would be a very saintsy signing but another gamble on a kid. CHO I think will join a much bigger club than us, maybe Newcastle or someone like that. Apparently Coady doesn’t like playing in a back 5 - which is the way of Wolves, hence why he wanted to look elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamSaint Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 15 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Because we do not really spend big at all, that is my point. Interestingly, in the list of PL transfers posted by @le_tiss earlier in this thread, 7 other clubs as well as Saints have yet to spend more than £20M on a single player so far this window: Bournemouth, Brentford, Brighton, Palace, Fulham, Leicester and Newcastle. Of course this will no doubt change by the time the window 'slams shut', but it does show that we're not the only ones who have been shopping at the lower end of the market with just a couple of weeks to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_lambden Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 15 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: That still doesn't explain why. "We don't spend money because we don't spend money" is a fantastic example of circular reasoning. Your implication is that we have the ability to spend the money Wolves do, we just choose not to - if so, where does the money go? Wolves have hardly spent anything (net) in the last couple of seasons, plus their revenues in the latest accounts are about £35m-£40m higher than ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 Would of been interesting to see Jack Stephens up against Nunez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: I don't understand how a club like wolves has so much more money to spend than us. Are we just really that shit at marketing that we get underpaid for sponsorship deals to the amount of tens of millions? Are they gambling by spending money by taking loans based on being in the prem in 2, 3, 4 years time? In fairness to them, the past 2 seasons they've had a net spend of circa £5-7m each window (excluding wages). This window they currently have a net spend of circa £55m as it stands. Which isn't that dissimilar to saints so far? However, we now seem to be struggling to flog our squad players to fund further additions, whereas some reports indicate wolves are just going to casually pop another £40-60m on their net spend then... I don't know how the rest of the finances work out though - We historically had a lot of "prem" players on long and excessive contracts, whereas I doubt that is the case for Wolves, who probably still had some players on more championship sized packets over some of those windows. Teams like Brighton are sat on a £70m wedge... Edited 16 August, 2022 by Saint86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 1 minute ago, Saint86 said: In fairness to them, the past 2 seasons they've had a net spend of circa £5-7m each window (excluding wages). This window they currently have a net spend of circa £55m as it stands. Which isn't that dissimilar to saints so far? However, we now seem to be struggling to flog our squad players to fund further additions, whereas some reports indicate wolves are just going to casually pop another £40-60m on their net spend then... I don't know how the rest of the finances work out though - We historically had a lot of "prem" players on long and excessive contracts, whereas I doubt that is the case for Wolves, who probably still had some players on more championship sized packets over some of those windows. Long? Like most clubs? Excessive? Not really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 I am confident we will break out transfer record in the next 2 weeks on our striker before the window "Slams Shut". Who is our record anyway ? Vest/Ings ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 2 minutes ago, Convict Colony said: I am confident we will break out transfer record in the next 2 weeks on our striker before the window "Slams Shut". Who is our record anyway ? Vest/Ings ? We don’t speak of it around here. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Convict Colony said: I am confident we will break out transfer record in the next 2 weeks on our striker before the window "Slams Shut". Who is our record anyway ? Vest/Ings ? Transfermarket report is as Ings at £22.59M, and Vestergard at £22.5M, then Mane at £20.7M and good old Carillo at £19.8M 😭 I imagine those include realised add ons as I always thought Carillo was our record buy. Edited 16 August, 2022 by Saint86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Convict Colony said: I am confident we will break out transfer record in the next 2 weeks on our striker before the window "Slams Shut". Who is our record anyway ? Vest/Ings ? Forster 6 years at £100k wasn't it? And I'd argue that that players like Boufal/Lemina/Hoedt even having contracts was both "long and excessive"... 😆. I bet Redmond has earned a pretty penny for his overall return on the pitch, and isn't Stephens on 50k per/week? Didn't someone say on here that Macca is currently on £70k as well? We've had an issue paying players their worth historically imo, and when coupled with a similar affliction with transfer fees, its definitely hurt our ability to spend competitively 🤷♂️ Edited 16 August, 2022 by Saint86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 38 minutes ago, John Boy Saint said: Apparently Coady doesn’t like playing in a back 5 - which is the way of Wolves, hence why he wanted to look elsewhere. Other way around - he can only play in a back 5 and Wolves have switched to a 4. I think that says a lot about the abilities of an England player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 18 minutes ago, Convict Colony said: Who is our record anyway ? James Garner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 58 minutes ago, Saint_lambden said: Wolves have hardly spent anything (net) in the last couple of seasons, plus their revenues in the latest accounts are about £35m-£40m higher than ours. Ok, but I'd still like to know how their revenue is so much higher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 5 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: Ok, but I'd still like to know how their revenue is so much higher? Perhaps it’s because Saints invest more highly in diverse areas of the business such as Staplewood and the Academy including all the medics/catering/groundsmen etc.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 16 August, 2022 Share Posted 16 August, 2022 40 minutes ago, Saint86 said: Transfermarket report is as Ings at £22.59M, and Vestergard at £22.5M, then Mane at £20.7M and good old Carillo at £19.8M 😭 I imagine those include realised add ons as I always thought Carillo was our record buy. Dont they include inflation / currency fluctuations? Mane is £10.5m, Vestergaard was £18m and Ings was £18m, Carillo was £20m I think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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