Turkish Posted 14 August, 2022 Share Posted 14 August, 2022 I’m going to put my cock on the block and say that if we keep them together, add three or four additional players next summer and get Tino back by the end of of next season we will be in and around the Europa league places. It will quite probably mean a new manger as well but the foundations are there for a really exciting future for this group 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Neil Posted 14 August, 2022 Share Posted 14 August, 2022 Elite Development Squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 14 August, 2022 Share Posted 14 August, 2022 52 minutes ago, saint lard said: Liam Delap is in the process of being loaned out by #ManCity this summer, Pep Guardiola has confirmed.Pep Guardiola: “We loaned ‘Macca’ [James McAtee], Liam [Delap] is in that process because we have Erling [Haaland] and Julian [Alvarez] and he needs minutes. The EDS phase is done. He has to try and go there and play..." [via @IndyFootball] this appears to come from a legit source. City Xtra account. 438k followers. 🤷🏻♂️ I'd rather try for a signing we can actually buy even if they aren't as good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkswood Posted 14 August, 2022 Share Posted 14 August, 2022 2 hours ago, SuperSAINT said: If I’m Everton, I’m selling him & trying to get Broja/Cho in. Yup, exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 14 August, 2022 Share Posted 14 August, 2022 9 minutes ago, Turkish said: I’m going to put my cock on the block and say that if we keep them together, add three or four additional players next summer and get Tino back by the end of of next season we will be in and around the Europa league places. It will quite probably mean a new manger as well but the foundations are there for a really exciting future for this group Wow. Amazing what a point against Leeds at home can do 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 14 August, 2022 Share Posted 14 August, 2022 Just now, DT said: Wow. Amazing what a point against Leeds at home can do Nothing to do with that. I reckon we’ve signed some very good players to supplement the better ones already here, will add a couple more this window. The ones we’ve got will grow and add in few more and we’ve suddenly got a very good young side. Like id said though it might also need a new manager… 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 14 August, 2022 Share Posted 14 August, 2022 10 minutes ago, Turkish said: Nothing to do with that. I reckon we’ve signed some very good players to supplement the better ones already here, will add a couple more this window. The ones we’ve got will grow and add in few more and we’ve suddenly got a very good young side. Like id said though it might also need a new manager… Agree with that bit wholeheartedly. He is Mr Tacticless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Fastenbüttl Posted 14 August, 2022 Share Posted 14 August, 2022 44 minutes ago, Turkish said: I’m going to put my cock on the block and say that if we keep them together, add three or four additional players next summer and get Tino back by the end of of next season we will be in and around the Europa league places. It will quite probably mean a new manger as well but the foundations are there for a really exciting future for this group Big call. Fair play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SambaMaverick Posted 14 August, 2022 Share Posted 14 August, 2022 Jack Stephens is signing for Watford. Not sure if it's a loan or perm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvSFC Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 30 minutes ago, SambaMaverick said: Jack Stephens is signing for Watford. Not sure if it's a loan or perm. He did appear to do a goodbye lap after the Leeds match. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 35 minutes ago, SambaMaverick said: Jack Stephens is signing for Watford. Not sure if it's a loan or perm. https://wfcforums.com/index.php?threads/jack-stephans.59622/#post-3161946 That guy seems up for the signing! FWIW he is a good player for the 2nd tier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 Not got anything against him. Had spells where he was decent and he’s generally comfortable on the ball, as well as being able to pass through the lines pretty well. Just a liability at this level a little too often, and Lyanco’s arrival probably spelt the beginning of the end for him. I think he’ll do well in the Championship, hopefully it’s a permanent deal for a couple of million (optimistic?). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Keef Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 32 minutes ago, Saint Matty 76 said: Not got anything against him. Had spells where he was decent and he’s generally comfortable on the ball, as well as being able to pass through the lines pretty well. Just a liability at this level a little too often, and Lyanco’s arrival probably spelt the beginning of the end for him. I think he’ll do well in the Championship, hopefully it’s a permanent deal for a couple of million (optimistic?). Yeah, good luck to him. He's had his moments, good and not so good, but has been a good servant in my opinion. Probably a good time to move on, for himself and for the club. Watford should have a few quid to spend as well. having lost Dennis and isn't/hasn't Saar going/gone as well? so hopefully we get some of that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 2 hours ago, skintsaint said: https://wfcforums.com/index.php?threads/jack-stephans.59622/#post-3161946 That guy seems up for the signing! FWIW he is a good player for the 2nd tier. MLG needs to get over there and correct the spelling of his name before the sun rises. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintJackoInHurworth Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, RogtheDodge said: EDS phase meaning? It seems to mean Elite Development Squad (E.g. See www.mancity.com/news/eds-academy/shea-charles-eds-v-leicester-preview-63795989) Edited 15 August, 2022 by SaintJackoInHurworth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeham_69 Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 4 hours ago, skintsaint said: https://wfcforums.com/index.php?threads/jack-stephans.59622/#post-3161946 That guy seems up for the signing! FWIW he is a good player for the 2nd tier. Seriously meta stuff. That link goes to their forum, which goes back to our forum. Personal highlight is this: "Negative side is that we’re replacing one donkey with another donkey... Stephans will want to be in our first 11, but from what I’ve seen of him over the years is that he is a massive liability." Hilarious stuff. To be honest I think it's a good move for him and the club. Seems likeable, had his moments, can obviously play but will probably never be more in the prem than last choice at a club like ours. Will be interesting to see how he copes with the aerial ball in the championship (not that I'll be watching). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 6 hours ago, skintsaint said: https://wfcforums.com/index.php?threads/jack-stephans.59622/#post-3161946 That guy seems up for the signing! FWIW he is a good player for the 2nd tier. Well they are not far off the mark, but maybe he will be a different proposition in the championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiberalCommunist Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 (edited) The Forest result concerns me. This season it feels like there is actually real potential down the bottom. All the teams have good attributes. This could be our biggest fight to remain in the epl since our return. Actually, nah, nothing will be as precarious as that Swansea game! But, it could be very close. Edited 15 August, 2022 by LiberalCommunist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 Since seeing a little more of Aribo and Mara I’ve modified my wish list from 2 strikers to a striker and a attacking midfielder. Get those and I think my prediction of 12th is achievable with or without Ralph, which is good because I don’t think he’s going anywhere just yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 7 hours ago, SambaMaverick said: Jack Stephens is signing for Watford. Not sure if it's a loan or perm. If true I wonder if this opens the door for a new experienced defender that’s been talked about lately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 8 minutes ago, beatlesaint said: If true I wonder if this opens the door for a new experienced defender that’s been talked about lately? I'd still assume we'd need to get rid of Bednarek somewhere first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 Cant we give Watford a buy one get one free offer and include Bednerek? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat from Poole Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 1 hour ago, LiberalCommunist said: The Forest result concerns me. This season it feels like there is actually real potential down the bottom. All the teams have good attributes. This could be our biggest fight to remain in the epl since our return. Actually, nah, nothing will be as precarious as that Swansea game! But, it could be very close. Forest will be absolutely fine. They have an excellent manager, and have bought well. We will play very few worse sides than Leeds this season. They are one of the three sides we have to finish above, along with Fulham and Boscombe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 9 hours ago, Fabrice29 said: And if I’m Southampton I’m on the phone to Harvey Vales representatives first thing tomorrow morning saying ‘see, no squad number and new players being targeted in your position…come play here’. That rumour will be outed as nonsense pretty quickly this week so I’d be onto Vale ASAP. Not watched him at all aside from youtube just now but what you thinking midfield 3 of Romeu, lavia and JWP with him coming off the bench this season and starts next season if romeu leaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 1 hour ago, LiberalCommunist said: The Forest result concerns me. This season it feels like there is actually real potential down the bottom. All the teams have good attributes. This could be our biggest fight to remain in the epl since our return. Actually, nah, nothing will be as precarious as that Swansea game! But, it could be very close. Its the same every year bro - dont stress, they are like a puppy in a new park. New teams with new players start well, regular teams havent played them before etc etc - but when we are in the new year they start losing a lot. Will be interesting this year though if the world cup helps these new teams assuming their squads arent decimated by it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 (edited) Regarding Delap, is it really worth signing him on loan with no option to buy? Spend the season developing him, taking the risk to give an untried kid a chance in the PL and then if he does well (score 6 or 7 PL goals and look a threat) know that there is about a 1.43% chance of being able to buy him. We would be in exactly the same position next summer and have essentially helped Man City make a profit on him, or increase the value of their asset like we did with Broja. On the flip side, he is absolutely brilliant and he keeps us up, which is looking like it will be a good achievement this season and then perhaps it works as a short term measure. Would certainly prefer a permanent move for a striker - assuming we have more cash (or sell Adams). Edited 15 August, 2022 by Dusic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West end Saints Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 1 hour ago, Saint Fan CaM said: Since seeing a little more of Aribo and Mara I’ve modified my wish list from 2 strikers to a striker and a attacking midfielder. Get those and I think my prediction of 12th is achievable with or without Ralph, which is good because I don’t think he’s going anywhere just yet. I've not seen Aribo or Mara yet, where are they likely to redularly fit into the side? Who are likely to be preferences? AM 1 Aribo 2 Armstrong 3 Redmond 4 Djenepo 5 Elyounoussi 6 Walcott Forward 1 Adams 2 Armstrong 3 Mara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, RogtheDodge said: EDS phase meaning? Elite development squad. Edit. Already been answered, thought I was on the past page, apologies. Edited 15 August, 2022 by The Kraken 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 8 hours ago, SambaMaverick said: Jack Stephens is signing for Watford. Not sure if it's a loan or perm. Interesting...I believe he moved back to cornwall, as his missus wanted to as they're both from down there, so I was told he wanted to play for someone closer to home. so to move to Watford is an interesting one. Think he'll do ok there though, but if they get promoted again sure he'll be happy being a squad player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 1 minute ago, Saint Garrett said: Interesting...I believe he moved back to cornwall, as his missus wanted to as they're both from down there, so I was told he wanted to play for someone closer to home. so to move to Watford is an interesting one. Think he'll do ok there though, but if they get promoted again sure he'll be happy being a squad player. Just had a kid didn't he? Guess that makes sense to be closer to their parents, but that's a bloody long commute for training every day. Not really many clubs down that way either, maybe Bristol City but all the other ones are a huge drop down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 5 minutes ago, Turkish said: Just had a kid didn't he? Guess that makes sense to be closer to their parents, but that's a bloody long commute for training every day. Not really many clubs down that way either, maybe Bristol City but all the other ones are a huge drop down. Yup - I was expecting maybe Bournemouth or Bristol City. Think he's just about to have a baby, rather than had one already, but yeah. One to keep a eye on...money talks at the end of the day and Watford would be a decent move for him, and good money. Struggling to get rid of other squad players from what I've been told. Offers in for Lis & Macca, so expecting one to leave. Club would prefer to get rid of Macca as on higher wages. Rejected offer for Diallo as we need cover. Medical booked for Weds apparently....🤞 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 3 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said: Yup - I was expecting maybe Bournemouth or Bristol City. Think he's just about to have a baby, rather than had one already, but yeah. One to keep a eye on...money talks at the end of the day and Watford would be a decent move for him, and good money. Struggling to get rid of other squad players from what I've been told. Offers in for Lis & Macca, so expecting one to leave. Club would prefer to get rid of Macca as on higher wages. Rejected offer for Diallo as we need cover. Medical booked for Weds apparently....🤞 I hope your medical goes well my friend. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 2 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said: Yup - I was expecting maybe Bournemouth or Bristol City. Think he's just about to have a baby, rather than had one already, but yeah. One to keep a eye on...money talks at the end of the day and Watford would be a decent move for him, and good money. Struggling to get rid of other squad players from what I've been told. Offers in for Lis & Macca, so expecting one to leave. Club would prefer to get rid of Macca as on higher wages. Rejected offer for Diallo as we need cover. Medical booked for Weds apparently....🤞 Makes sense to get rid of McCarthy, crazy giving him a new deal. Had some fun with my Man U mates this weekend getting into them about him joining them. Not surprised we’re struggling to shift them all will be on wages way above what clubs they are good enough for can afford. Maybe get rid of a few at the end of the window as clubs gets desperate either panic buys or loans. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_lambden Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 We’re one of several Prem clubs to have shown an interest in James Garner according to David Ornstein of the Athletic. United want £14m for him, was on loan at Forest last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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once_bitterne Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 19 minutes ago, Saint_lambden said: We’re one of several Prem clubs to have shown an interest in James Garner according to David Ornstein of the Athletic. United want £14m for him, was on loan at Forest last season Think he suffers badly from hemorrhoids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 We won’t be signing Mings anyway, Diego Carlos has ruptured his Achilles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 3 minutes ago, Appy said: We won’t be signing Mings anyway, Diego Carlos has ruptured his Achilles Oh dear, Nevermind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 6 minutes ago, Appy said: We won’t be signing Mings anyway, Diego Carlos has ruptured his Achilles That's terrible luck! £30m down the drain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 51 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said: Medical booked for Weds apparently....🤞 Striker per chance? Any possible names? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 Garner seems an odd link to me. Clearly talented but doesn't seem a priority for a major outlay imo when you've got Lavia/JWP & Romeu. Guess Diallo would be odd man out in that scenario. Personally i want to see a really pacey 10 arrive but that might be reliant on shifting out at least one of Redmond/Elyounessi. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 1 hour ago, West end Saints said: I've not seen Aribo or Mara yet, where are they likely to redularly fit into the side? Who are likely to be preferences? AM 1 Aribo 2 Armstrong 3 Redmond 4 Djenepo 5 Elyounoussi 6 Walcott Forward 1 Adams 2 Armstrong 3 Mara Think it depends on whether Ralph trusts Mara with a start - unfortunately I actually don’t think he will, preferring Che and Armstrong to start. Aribo will definitely play AM left or right. Stu A on the other side in what I’m hoping will be a 4222. If and it’s a big if, he decides on a 4231 then possibly Mara might get a start in a no.10 role with Che up top - that would be my favoured formation/team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 17 minutes ago, Appy said: We won’t be signing Mings anyway, Diego Carlos has ruptured his Achilles They've enquired about Bednarek supposedly....cmon do the right thing. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 4 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said: Striker per chance? Any possible names? Won’t be the Leicester player as they won’t want him scoring against them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 5 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said: Striker per chance? Any possible names? No idea, might not even be for the first team tbh. one to keep an eye on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 1 minute ago, Pilchards said: Won’t be the Leicester player as they won’t want him scoring against them. Maybe, but then there may be a contract clause that says he doesn’t play against them this season? Don’t think we’ll be fortunate enough to see him in a Saints shirt, but everything tightly crossed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 10 minutes ago, Pilchards said: Won’t be the Leicester player as they won’t want him scoring against them. Is there any actual substance in the Iheanacho story? I'm sure that was completely made up when Alex Crook said it we were in for a current premier league striker. Someone on here suggested it might be him because we were interested in him a few years ago and Joe Shields would know him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Pilchards said: Won’t be the Leicester player as they won’t want him scoring against them. I guess maybe a gentlemen's agreement could be on the cards but doubt any selling club would insist on it. To be honest if it's Iheanacho then we probably could have got him at any point during the summer, fact we haven't indicates that he wasn't our first choice target going into the transfer window and we're working our way down the list of other possibles. Doubt Leicester would want to jeopardise any deal because sounds like they need the cash. It would be like us insisting Bednarek or Stephens doesn't play against us if we sell - chances are we'd probably try and put a clause in insisting they actually did play against us..... Edited 15 August, 2022 by revolution saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 3 minutes ago, Turkish said: Is there any actual substance in the Iheanacho story? I'm sure that was completely made up when Alex Crook said it we were in for a current premier league striker. Someone on here suggested it might be him because we were interested in him a few years ago and Joe Shields would know him. More likely to be Delap than Iheanacho. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 15 August, 2022 Share Posted 15 August, 2022 Just now, Saint Garrett said: More likely to be Delap than Iheanacho. Would be amazing if both. We certainly need it. Perhaps Delap on loan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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