Turkish Posted 9 August, 2022 Share Posted 9 August, 2022 1 minute ago, BotleySaint said: Different owners now but similar happened when we let Fonte go one January if I remember right. We were left with Stephens and Yoshida as first choice for half a season. And everyone blamed Puel for being negative 🤦 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted 9 August, 2022 Share Posted 9 August, 2022 8 minutes ago, BotleySaint said: Different owners now but similar happened when we let Fonte go one January if I remember right. We were left with Stephens and Yoshida as first choice for half a season. Sounds a good option right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 9 August, 2022 Share Posted 9 August, 2022 4 hours ago, ecurnew02 said: Maybe I’m missing something but don’t really understand why West Ham are selling Benrahma, he had 8 goals and 6 assists last season in the prem. Because Moyes wants him to be able to defend too, and he cannot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogtheDodge Posted 9 August, 2022 Share Posted 9 August, 2022 2 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said: He must be getting too old for that price There must be someone in the pipeline then... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 9 August, 2022 Share Posted 9 August, 2022 2 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said: He must be getting too old for that price Ridiculous if true. That’s peanuts in this league. Someone would be getting a bargain. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted 9 August, 2022 Share Posted 9 August, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 9 August, 2022 Share Posted 9 August, 2022 Just now, goodymatt said: Smart lad 8 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 9 August, 2022 Share Posted 9 August, 2022 9 minutes ago, goodymatt said: Credibility of source… very low I say given most his stuff is about fantasy football 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 9 August, 2022 Share Posted 9 August, 2022 16 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said: Because Moyes wants him to be able to defend too, and he cannot. Would take him here. Benrahma, Aribo & Armstrong would make a nice 3 behind a half decent striker. Benrahma previously of Brentford as well 👀 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 9 August, 2022 Share Posted 9 August, 2022 30 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said: Because Moyes wants him to be able to defend too, and he cannot. He’ll fit right in here then, sign him up 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 9 August, 2022 Share Posted 9 August, 2022 53 minutes ago, goodymatt said: No shit. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvSFC Posted 9 August, 2022 Share Posted 9 August, 2022 £15m is peanuts. We got that for Vestergaard in the final year of his contract and Matt Targett in recent years. Forest have been spending money all summer, £18m on Neco Williams, £20m on Awoniyi, £200k a week on Lingard and are reportedly putting in bids worth up to £40m for Gibbs-White. Fortunately, TeamTalk aren't a great source, but if we were to sell Adams for just £15m, it would be pretty stupid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 9 August, 2022 Share Posted 9 August, 2022 That's why I said earlier 100 notes on Saint to be relegated.... Not just we are one game in.... Look at the end to the second half of the second it's like groundhog day can only see us going one way with Ralph at the helm... He is clueless 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestMidSaint Posted 9 August, 2022 Share Posted 9 August, 2022 2 hours ago, goodymatt said: Be weird if he was convinced. It made sense Tina coming as he was unproven at this level so the chance to play Premier League football was legitimately better than playing in their u23s. It’s different for CHO as he would presumably think he’s shown enough to not have to drop to the team who were 15th last year. It’s a come down from Bayern bidding £30m a couple of years ago. Perhaps he’s also been reading on here?! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwichsaint Posted 9 August, 2022 Share Posted 9 August, 2022 14 hours ago, skintsaint said: Get the Ting Tings to perform at their unveiling. Zings can only get better (apologies if its been done further up thread). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecurnew02 Posted 10 August, 2022 Share Posted 10 August, 2022 Was thinking of a Sport Republic type winger and Adedire Mebude checks off a lot of boxes. Joe Shields will know him well, contract is out in 2024 and his agency is already pretty familiar with the club (Bertrand, Broja and Simeu’s agency). He’s highly regarded in City’s academy and he had 29 G+A in 20 games last year for City U18. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 10 August, 2022 Share Posted 10 August, 2022 3 hours ago, ecurnew02 said: Was thinking of a Sport Republic type winger and Adedire Mebude checks off a lot of boxes. Joe Shields will know him well, contract is out in 2024 and his agency is already pretty familiar with the club (Bertrand, Broja and Simeu’s agency). He’s highly regarded in City’s academy and he had 29 G+A in 20 games last year for City U18. Sold me with this "A skilful forward with blistering pace" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streaky Posted 10 August, 2022 Share Posted 10 August, 2022 3 hours ago, ecurnew02 said: Was thinking of a Sport Republic type winger and Adedire Mebude checks off a lot of boxes. Joe Shields will know him well, contract is out in 2024 and his agency is already pretty familiar with the club (Bertrand, Broja and Simeu’s agency). He’s highly regarded in City’s academy and he had 29 G+A in 20 games last year for City U18. We need players who will come in and improve the starting eleven, we've signed too many players with potential but doesn't improve us immediately. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 10 August, 2022 Share Posted 10 August, 2022 15m for a current Scottish international striker. Surely even Saints wouldn’t be this stupid 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted 10 August, 2022 Share Posted 10 August, 2022 11 hours ago, RogtheDodge said: There must be someone in the pipeline then... There is, but he has to finish his GCSE’s first and get a letter from his mum. 2 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 10 August, 2022 Share Posted 10 August, 2022 I wonder if we are still trying for Delap. I see Maduake hasn't played last two games for PSV, injured? or on the move? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 10 August, 2022 Share Posted 10 August, 2022 Not selling Che according to TalkSPORT. The floated idea was rejected after backlash or was never on cards at all. Hmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 10 August, 2022 Share Posted 10 August, 2022 13 minutes ago, DT said: Not selling Che according to TalkSPORT. The floated idea was rejected after backlash or was never on cards at all. Hmmm Isn’t it the fans forum tonight? A cynic might suggest that’s a timely leak to bat away a few awkward questions…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 10 August, 2022 Share Posted 10 August, 2022 3 minutes ago, alehouseboys said: Isn’t it the fans forum tonight? A cynic might suggest that’s a timely leak to bat away a few awkward questions…. Good point. Question should still be asked. Also, why haven’t we bought a decent CB or striker. Or have a mangabey who can ~ gasp ~ play players in their favoured positions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 10 August, 2022 Share Posted 10 August, 2022 18 minutes ago, DT said: Not selling Che according to TalkSPORT. The floated idea was rejected after backlash or was never on cards at all. Hmmm Or we struggled to find a suitable replacement who was interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 10 August, 2022 Share Posted 10 August, 2022 24 minutes ago, MarkSFC said: I wonder if we are still trying for Delap. I see Maduake hasn't played last two games for PSV, injured? or on the move? Injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmysaint7 Posted 10 August, 2022 Share Posted 10 August, 2022 28 minutes ago, MarkSFC said: I wonder if we are still trying for Delap. I see Maduake hasn't played last two games for PSV, injured? or on the move? Didn't Delap go to Stoke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 10 August, 2022 Share Posted 10 August, 2022 28 minutes ago, DT said: Not selling Che according to TalkSPORT. The floated idea was rejected after backlash or was never on cards at all. Hmmm Happy that we're not looking to sell Che but just makes the decision not to play him at all on Saturday even more stupid. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 10 August, 2022 Share Posted 10 August, 2022 1 minute ago, jimmysaint7 said: Didn't Delap go to Stoke? Not yet I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 10 August, 2022 Share Posted 10 August, 2022 I assume the striker we are waiting for is either in a european competition currently or his club is awaiting to sign off a replacement - assume the deal has been done already based on ralph's comment. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100%Red&White Posted 10 August, 2022 Share Posted 10 August, 2022 6 minutes ago, Baird of the land said: Or we struggled to find a suitable replacement who was interested. Or anyone to cough up what we're really asking (it surely has to be more than the reported £15m) - maybe some interested parties have backed off willing to wait and hope for a last minute bargain in a few weeks from a desperate club. PL striker (tick) Current international (tick) Signed for £15m from the Championship 3 years ago (tick) Travesty if he does go without replacing and for no more than £15m. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice29 Posted 10 August, 2022 Share Posted 10 August, 2022 13 minutes ago, 100%Red&White said: Or anyone to cough up what we're really asking (it surely has to be more than the reported £15m) - maybe some interested parties have backed off willing to wait and hope for a last minute bargain in a few weeks from a desperate club. PL striker (tick) Current international (tick) Signed for £15m from the Championship 3 years ago (tick) Travesty if he does go without replacing and for no more than £15m. Let’s not rewrite history here with Adams. I like him, there’s a genuine debate to be had he’s our current best option as a striker but it’s not exactly a thriving pool to choose from. We’ve complained since the day he’s been here about his lack of goals. PL striker - yes but hardly prolific. There’s a reason we’ve all been desperately wanting a new striker. International striker - Yes but hardly a big pool to choose from and there’s many Scottish fans who’d prefer Championship striker Dykes over him. Signed for 15 million - Yes but with 2 years left on his contract his value is only going down now. Without signing a new contract, this is the best summer for us to sell value wise. I like the guy btw, and like I say, there’s a genuine debate to be had he’s our best striker right now but if he’s not signing a new contract, the manager doesn’t trust him and (this is the most important) we are signing a new striker then I’m not adverse to saying thank you and goodbye. Of course his value to us right now is important but in the wider context of a good striker at this level, he’s occasionally reaching those heights but nowhere near enough. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 10 August, 2022 Share Posted 10 August, 2022 1 hour ago, DT said: Not selling Che according to TalkSPORT. The floated idea was rejected after backlash or was never on cards at all. Hmmm How to get the best price when selling, lesson 1 - “He’s not for sale.” 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 10 August, 2022 Share Posted 10 August, 2022 36 minutes ago, Convict Colony said: I assume the striker we are waiting for is either in a european competition currently or his club is awaiting to sign off a replacement - assume the deal has been done already based on ralph's comment. I reckon that's what holds a lot of transfers up. A chain like buying a house. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 10 August, 2022 Share Posted 10 August, 2022 43 minutes ago, Convict Colony said: I assume the striker we are waiting for is either in a european competition currently or his club is awaiting to sign off a replacement - assume the deal has been done already based on ralph's comment. That’s assuming Ralph understands what he says and after listening to some of his recent post match comments I’m not sure he does. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 10 August, 2022 Share Posted 10 August, 2022 18 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: How to get the best price when selling, lesson 1 - “He’s not for sale.” “Never believe a rumour until it’s denied” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 10 August, 2022 Share Posted 10 August, 2022 48 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said: Let’s not rewrite history here with Adams. I like him, there’s a genuine debate to be had he’s our current best option as a striker but it’s not exactly a thriving pool to choose from. We’ve complained since the day he’s been here about his lack of goals. PL striker - yes but hardly prolific. There’s a reason we’ve all been desperately wanting a new striker. International striker - Yes but hardly a big pool to choose from and there’s many Scottish fans who’d prefer Championship striker Dykes over him. Signed for 15 million - Yes but with 2 years left on his contract his value is only going down now. Without signing a new contract, this is the best summer for us to sell value wise. I like the guy btw, and like I say, there’s a genuine debate to be had he’s our best striker right now but if he’s not signing a new contract, the manager doesn’t trust him and (this is the most important) we are signing a new striker then I’m not adverse to saying thank you and goodbye. Of course his value to us right now is important but in the wider context of a good striker at this level, he’s occasionally reaching those heights but nowhere near enough. All well and good but there's no guarantees whoever we signed would be better. I don't really think there's any debate needed about whether he's our best striker either - by any metric he absolutely is. There's also the fact that we're already looking for another striker. Sell Che and we need two and we need both to be good immediately. Not in the distant future, not next season but right now. All this stuff about playing Aribo or S Armstrong upfront is bollocks. All about opinions obviously but the timing simply isn't right to sell Che this summer even if it might be the optimum selling point. To be honest I don't see Ralph being here that much longer so the situation could have changed dramatically anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 10 August, 2022 Share Posted 10 August, 2022 28 minutes ago, revolution saint said: All well and good but there's no guarantees whoever we signed would be better. I don't really think there's any debate needed about whether he's our best striker either - by any metric he absolutely is. There's also the fact that we're already looking for another striker. Sell Che and we need two and we need both to be good immediately. Not in the distant future, not next season but right now. All this stuff about playing Aribo or S Armstrong upfront is bollocks. All about opinions obviously but the timing simply isn't right to sell Che this summer even if it might be the optimum selling point. To be honest I don't see Ralph being here that much longer so the situation could have changed dramatically anyway. Yup, I think no wins by the end of August and he'll be gone or going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonicBoom Posted 10 August, 2022 Share Posted 10 August, 2022 I hope all the people that are pleased we aren't selling him, remember they are pleased when he smashes the ball into the keepers face from point blank range - yet again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 10 August, 2022 Share Posted 10 August, 2022 12 minutes ago, SonicBoom said: I hope all the people that are pleased we aren't selling him, remember they are pleased when he smashes the ball into the keepers face from point blank range - yet again. Dunno I’ll ask the keeper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Saint Posted 10 August, 2022 Share Posted 10 August, 2022 2 hours ago, Fabrice29 said: Let’s not rewrite history here with Adams. I like him, there’s a genuine debate to be had he’s our current best option as a striker but it’s not exactly a thriving pool to choose from. We’ve complained since the day he’s been here about his lack of goals. PL striker - yes but hardly prolific. There’s a reason we’ve all been desperately wanting a new striker. International striker - Yes but hardly a big pool to choose from and there’s many Scottish fans who’d prefer Championship striker Dykes over him. Signed for 15 million - Yes but with 2 years left on his contract his value is only going down now. Without signing a new contract, this is the best summer for us to sell value wise. I like the guy btw, and like I say, there’s a genuine debate to be had he’s our best striker right now but if he’s not signing a new contract, the manager doesn’t trust him and (this is the most important) we are signing a new striker then I’m not adverse to saying thank you and goodbye. Of course his value to us right now is important but in the wider context of a good striker at this level, he’s occasionally reaching those heights but nowhere near enough. absolutely bang on. I like the guy too but he is chronically one footed and doubt he's ever scored a left footed goal in his life. He is simply the best of what we've got atm (until we see Mara in action) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Corbyn Posted 10 August, 2022 Share Posted 10 August, 2022 25 minutes ago, SonicBoom said: I hope all the people that are pleased we aren't selling him, remember they are pleased when he smashes the ball into the keepers face from point blank range - yet again. We had 2 shots on target on Saturday, face shots would increase those stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 10 August, 2022 Share Posted 10 August, 2022 39 minutes ago, SonicBoom said: I hope all the people that are pleased we aren't selling him, remember they are pleased when he smashes the ball into the keepers face from point blank range - yet again. If 7 to 10 of his other shots end up in the back of the net again i'll be pleased enough. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 10 August, 2022 Share Posted 10 August, 2022 44 minutes ago, SonicBoom said: I hope all the people that are pleased we aren't selling him, remember they are pleased when he smashes the ball into the keepers face from point blank range - yet again. But dont you think that is exactly the reason why he's not far off being a very good striker? His general all round play is good and it's not like he doesn't get in positions, he regularly is in the right place at the right time it's just that little bit of composure that is stopping him being a 12-15 goal a season striker. If he was clueless in the box and barely ever got a kick like Armstrong and Long then maybe we should get rid of him but he's a good player and if he could just work on picking his spot rather than smashing it we would have a very good striker on our hands. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted 10 August, 2022 Share Posted 10 August, 2022 I’d take him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 10 August, 2022 Share Posted 10 August, 2022 Football Insider really go all out with their graphics don't they? Depends on the price. I'd be surprised if they didn't want to recuperate the £33m and I don't know if he's worth that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted 10 August, 2022 Share Posted 10 August, 2022 2 minutes ago, Saint Matty 76 said: Football Insider really go all out with their graphics don't they? Depends on the price. I'd be surprised if they didn't want to recuperate the £33m and I don't know if he's worth that. £33m would smash our transfer record, but at 26 I think he’d be a great signing for us. If they do actively want to sell him maybe £25m plus add ons would be fair? I’m desperate to see an actual link to a decent striker, we need one yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 10 August, 2022 Share Posted 10 August, 2022 (edited) Watkins would be good in terms of our pressing and workrate. But if you’re looking for someone more prolific than Che Adams, I don’t think Watkins is it. Edited 10 August, 2022 by saintwbu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 10 August, 2022 Share Posted 10 August, 2022 I'd definitely take Watkins... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 10 August, 2022 Share Posted 10 August, 2022 13 minutes ago, Turkish said: But dont you think that is exactly the reason why he's not far off being a very good striker? His general all round play is good and it's not like he doesn't get in positions, he regularly is in the right place at the right time it's just that little bit of composure that is stopping him being a 12-15 goal a season striker. If he was clueless in the box and barely ever got a kick like Armstrong and Long then maybe we should get rid of him but he's a good player and if he could just work on picking his spot rather than smashing it we would have a very good striker on our hands. That’s like saying a boxer is good because he’s light on his feet, but punches like a fairy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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