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I'd love to know the thinking as to why we went for Diallo once Sanagre didn't happen, if he rejected us then (or work permits were an issue) we were clearly looking for a physical DM, but Daillo is the polar opposite of Sangere. 

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30 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

I'd love to know the thinking as to why we went for Diallo once Sanagre didn't happen, if he rejected us then (or work permits were an issue) we were clearly looking for a physical DM, but Daillo is the polar opposite of Sangere. 

He rejected us before he signed for PSV. Then, and this summer again, he thought we weren’t the right club for him. Everton also tried to sign him this summer and he turned them down too. He just signed a new contract with PSV and hopes that one of the big clubs come round next summer (when he can leave for €37,5 million euro according to Dutch media).

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2 hours ago, Convict Colony said:

Am sure it must be a age group playing together for england or something but Tino and Dynel both follow Noni Maduke at PSV.

Would love us to sign him. Never going to happen though.

The players following him wouldn’t relate to any of our transfer business though. Can’t imagine Joe Shields walking by the players and going “Give this guy a follow” 😅

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3 hours ago, S-Clarke said:

I'd love to know the thinking as to why we went for Diallo once Sanagre didn't happen, if he rejected us then (or work permits were an issue) we were clearly looking for a physical DM, but Daillo is the polar opposite of Sangere. 

I’ve held the view for a while that our recruitment policy is flawed. 

Initially we blamed Les, Ross Wilson and Gao, all of whom are culpable to some degree. Although Rasmus and Sports Republic start with a clean slate and Rasmus’s reputation enhanced by his involvement at Brentford, I fear this summer has been poor and will cost us.

We don’t sign players to improve the current team but see them as additions to an investment portfolio. 

We’ve been crying out for an organiser in the back four for years. But our last two CB signings have been unproven Salisu and AKB. Three if adding Simeu. 
 

Around the time we signed Salisu, Lille signed Botman for less than we paid. Botman has played two full seasons before being sold on. Think we know which has been the better signing.

Bournemouth linked with Seniso at Feyenoord, c£12-16m. A player to go straight in and make a difference. Most improve their team we tend to add to the squad. 

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Our young players in our investment “portfolio” will only increase in value if the team improves and overall succeeds.

If we stay around the bottom of the table they’ll quickly be known as the next Diallo, the next Djenepo, the next Armstrong - players we invested in that never reached their potential.

A functional working team increases everyone’s value and makes the club desirable. Throwing a load of kids together and hoping something sticks, isn’t. 

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12 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

Our young players in our investment “portfolio” will only increase in value if the team improves and overall succeeds.

If we stay around the bottom of the table they’ll quickly be known as the next Diallo, the next Djenepo, the next Armstrong - players we invested in that never reached their potential.

A functional working team increases everyone’s value and makes the club desirable. Throwing a load of kids together and hoping something sticks, isn’t. 

Exactly. Have been saying this for a couple of years. Put a Fonte, or a Monkou in at CB and watch Salisu, or AKB reach their potential. Shove them next to our current shower of shit, and they’ll take to the field as quivering wrecks. 
 

GK position is also one that worries me, and the effects of playing behind our current standard of back four.

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10 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

Our young players in our investment “portfolio” will only increase in value if the team improves and overall succeeds.

If we stay around the bottom of the table they’ll quickly be known as the next Diallo, the next Djenepo, the next Armstrong - players we invested in that never reached their potential.

A functional working team increases everyone’s value and makes the club desirable. Throwing a load of kids together and hoping something sticks, isn’t. 

Exactly this. Although if the team starts to succeed then we'll lose the best players anyways. 

The biggest flaw of our recruitment ('investment') strategy imo is the clear refusal to target players who are deemed too old or have no resale value. We're restricting ourselves in the transfer market, missing out on valuable experience which can only help our young squad and potentially missing out on players on a free or cut price

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13 minutes ago, Badger said:

GK position is also one that worries me, and the effects of playing behind our current standard of back four.

Absolutely. You'd think we'd have learnt from experience following Angus Gunn's decline, but watching the goals flying in past Bazunu yesterday - hope he has more resilience!

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23 minutes ago, woodsaint1 said:

Exactly this. Although if the team starts to succeed then we'll lose the best players anyways. 

The biggest flaw of our recruitment ('investment') strategy imo is the clear refusal to target players who are deemed too old or have no resale value. We're restricting ourselves in the transfer market, missing out on valuable experience which can only help our young squad and potentially missing out on players on a free or cut price

I really don't understand why we haven't supplemented our young signings with a bit more experience. I still would have signed Ben Mee. Not the most glamorous of signings but a solid defensive signing and would have improved us. 

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4 minutes ago, egg said:

You mean he's good, and ready to play premier league football? 

And will want the kind of wages and signing on fee which we simply won’t be able to afford because the likes of West Ham, Leicester, Spurs, Villa and Everton can offer more.

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14 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

To be honest man u are having a laugh as arnautovic was their star player last year

If the player wanted to join Utd he’d get his way, as he has done on leaving Stoke and West Ham. He’s not known for letting things like a contract getting in the way. 

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1 minute ago, Badger said:

Clearly Man Utd aren’t convinced by Kaladjnic being the player for them. 
 

Yesterday won’t have helped us persuading him or anyone else of quality to come to us.

To be honest I'm not convinced on him being a player for us. I don't think he's what we need. Creativity is what we lack, that attacking phase between midfield and attack (AM or a wide player is what we need).

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11 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

To be honest I'm not convinced on him being a player for us. I don't think he's what we need. Creativity is what we lack, that attacking phase between midfield and attack (AM or a wide player is what we need).

We need a creative type player like Lo Celso to add to what we've already got. 

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Ok,I’ve solved the problem. Get Oxlade -Chamberlain in along with Sasa Kalajdzic from Stuttgart….all within budget. Ship out Walcott,bednarek,dejnepo,Redmond and Valery along with A Armstrong. Keep Chè and loan in a versatile full back with Tino out. Easy this. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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26 minutes ago, saint lard said:

Ok,I’ve solved the problem. Get Oxlade -Chamberlain in along with Sasa Kalajdzic from Stuttgart….all within budget. Ship out Walcott,bednarek,dejnepo,Redmond and Valery along with A Armstrong. Keep Chè and loan in a versatile full back with Tino out. Easy this. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Amazing - sign a player whose out with a serious hamstring injury and get rid of a load of players that no-one wants to buy. You’ve fcking cracked it pal.

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2 hours ago, woodsaint1 said:

Exactly this. Although if the team starts to succeed then we'll lose the best players anyways. 

The biggest flaw of our recruitment ('investment') strategy imo is the clear refusal to target players who are deemed too old or have no resale value. We're restricting ourselves in the transfer market, missing out on valuable experience which can only help our young squad and potentially missing out on players on a free or cut price

There was a hostile outburst when we signed Theo for that sort of role

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58 minutes ago, saint lard said:

Ok,I’ve solved the problem. Get Oxlade -Chamberlain in along with Sasa Kalajdzic from Stuttgart….all within budget. Ship out Walcott,bednarek,dejnepo,Redmond and Valery along with A Armstrong. Keep Chè and loan in a versatile full back with Tino out. Easy this. 🤷🏻‍♂️

But we have to convince teams of the players worth, for them to be shipped out surely. Oh you forgot ELyanousi

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5 minutes ago, Dellman said:

There was a hostile outburst when we signed Theo for that sort of role

There's experience and then there's established players, I think people are calling for more established players if anything. We need more players in the mid-20's mark, young enough to still give us a potential all important sell-on, but experienced enough with a few seasons behind them to hit the ground running from day 1. 

I don't want us signing a load of 30+ has-beens on their way down, but we need a better mix. Equally I don't want our transfer policy being a case of trying to unearth every 'Tino' in the world (that was my fear at the start of the summer tbh). I know there is talk of there being 'established' players already here, but bar JWP and KWP our established players are pretty hopeless at football.

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29 minutes ago, Saint Matty 76 said:

Forest in for Gakpo apparently, should be in for him if so.

Dutch lads rave about him and rate him higher than Madueke etc.

Looks a very good player.  Similar kind of player to Broja - wouldn't imagine the physicality of the premier league would be a problem.  Think Leeds and Arsenal have also been linked too.

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2 hours ago, SuperSAINT said:

 

Bearing in mind their financial troubles, they're finally doing some good work there. I thought defence would be their let down but Coady and Tarkowski is a decent experienced pair of CBs. Onana to come in to, if they can sort their attack out then they might not be the relegation fodder I had them down as.

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14 minutes ago, Dellman said:

There was a hostile outburst when we signed Theo for that sort of role

They still have to be good players obviously. Most people could see that Theo Walcott was a spent force in his last two seasons at Everton. Not our recruitment team though

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8 minutes ago, SNSUN said:

Bearing in mind their financial troubles, they're finally doing some good work there. I thought defence would be their let down but Coady and Tarkowski is a decent experienced pair of CBs. Onana to come in to, if they can sort their attack out then they might not be the relegation fodder I had them down as.

They have lots of PL experienced players and in Onana and McNeil have chucked £50m at two players. They might not be a brilliant side but hard to see them being in the bottom 3.

This really is a season where we need all 3 promoted sides to be poor as most of the others are solid enough.

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1 hour ago, saint lard said:

Ok,I’ve solved the problem. Get Oxlade -Chamberlain in along with Sasa Kalajdzic from Stuttgart….all within budget. Ship out Walcott,bednarek,dejnepo,Redmond and Valery along with A Armstrong. Keep Chè and loan in a versatile full back with Tino out. Easy this. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Oxo picked up his bad injury early this season , didn’t he ? Oh already posted ……

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1 minute ago, East Kent Saint said:

Oxo picked up his bad injury early this season , didn’t he ?

Yeah he's got another bad hamstring tear, few months I think I read.

Got to feel sorry for him, much like Wiltshire injuries have totally ruined any chance of a top career.

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