Smirking_Saint Posted 5 August, 2022 Share Posted 5 August, 2022 28 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said: The thing is because SR have a bit of money and won’t want to lose their long term investment in the club; if things were looking bleak later in the year and we’re in a poor position with no uphill turn coming, I can see the club sacking RH and having a mini buying spree like Newcastle did last January and that would see us through to the end of the season. Obviously none of us want that, but if the youth approach doesn’t work (which is 50/50) then I can see us going for experience route mid-season to change things around. This is exactly what I was told btw 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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S-Clarke Posted 5 August, 2022 Share Posted 5 August, 2022 (edited) It'll be interesting to see how he does in the PL, but the fact that it's a straight loan with no option is probably suggestive that Chelsea are valuing him at silly levels. He's perfect for the back 3 they adopt at Brighton and will fill that void left by Burn. It's probably going to be a Broja situation for Brighton at the end of the season though - as I think he'll do well there. Edited 5 August, 2022 by S-Clarke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 5 August, 2022 Share Posted 5 August, 2022 12 minutes ago, Appy said: @SuperSAINT 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 5 August, 2022 Share Posted 5 August, 2022 I’ve just looked at the transfer window and it doesn’t slam shut©️ until the 2nd September 😳 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 5 August, 2022 Share Posted 5 August, 2022 1 minute ago, Whitey Grandad said: I’ve just looked at the transfer window and it doesn’t slam shut©️ until the 2nd September 😳 Be bottom of the league at that stage which would make it harder to attract any kind of decent striker. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Corbyn Posted 5 August, 2022 Share Posted 5 August, 2022 2 minutes ago, Pilchards said: Be bottom of the league at that stage which would make it harder to attract any kind of decent striker. the new manager might be able to bring in someone they know 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 5 August, 2022 Share Posted 5 August, 2022 1 hour ago, Teddeer said: I would hope that we also have a lot still to do in this window even if we don't have 100m burning a hole in our pocket. Doubt we'll survive with the squad we've got so I'm hoping that Ralph was genuine when he said we have more business to do. I like the look of the youngsters we've signed plus the more experienced Aribo but they'll likely take a season before we see the best of them although we may be lucky in that we have another Tino or two among them. Bazunu will probably quickly establish himself as number one in goal but he has only limited competition. Would love to see us try to get Conor Coady but I doubt we'll even put a bid in - his experience could galvanise our defence as he seems to be a great leader and organiser, something we badly need. I can go along with that… I think we might have ‘enough’ at CB at a push now, Valery looked very good at RCB and I don’t think Bednarek will be ‘as bad’ as he was last year… more importantly I think our issues were exaggerated by our late season tactics within which we were still gung ho despite playing a half arsed press which effectively meant when the ball ‘broke’ our back 2/3 were up against it with the rest of the team engaged at the top of the pitch… I hope we’ve learnt from that We do definitely need another striker though, and Im a little dissapointed he isn’t here yet But I’m optimistic enough to look at this squad and realise we have more, imo, then the bottom 3/4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 5 August, 2022 Share Posted 5 August, 2022 6 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said: I can go along with that… I think we might have ‘enough’ at CB at a push now, Valery looked very good at RCB and I don’t think Bednarek will be ‘as bad’ as he was last year… more importantly I think our issues were exaggerated by our late season tactics within which we were still gung ho despite playing a half arsed press which effectively meant when the ball ‘broke’ our back 2/3 were up against it with the rest of the team engaged at the top of the pitch… I hope we’ve learnt from that We do definitely need another striker though, and Im a little dissapointed he isn’t here yet But I’m optimistic enough to look at this squad and realise we have more, imo, then the bottom 3/4 hmm I think it's pushing things a little far to say Valery looked 'very good' He gets caught wrong side too much for my liking Remind me who was responsible for the late season tactics you describe as gung ho and half arsed? I believe that man is still in charge... I hope we're not looking at finishing fourth bottom as optimistic 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 5 August, 2022 Share Posted 5 August, 2022 30 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said: I can go along with that… I think we might have ‘enough’ at CB at a push now, Valery looked very good at RCB and I don’t think Bednarek will be ‘as bad’ as he was last year… more importantly I think our issues were exaggerated by our late season tactics within which we were still gung ho despite playing a half arsed press which effectively meant when the ball ‘broke’ our back 2/3 were up against it with the rest of the team engaged at the top of the pitch… I hope we’ve learnt from that We do definitely need another striker though, and Im a little dissapointed he isn’t here yet But I’m optimistic enough to look at this squad and realise we have more, imo, then the bottom 3/4 Ralph said in the SKY interview we definitely getting a new striker. Yes I keep on about Sports Republic but they havnt let us down yet. Their comment a few months ago was they were going to refresh every position in the team. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 5 August, 2022 Share Posted 5 August, 2022 4 minutes ago, manji said: Ralph said in the SKY interview we definitely getting a new striker. Yes I keep on about Sports Republic but they havnt let us down yet. Their comment a few months ago was they were going to refresh every position in the team. SR haven’t let us down, but they’ve not set the world alight either. We’re still signing players in that 10-15m price bracket, just that we’ve got a few more of them this window. Whilst I like what we’ve done, we have signed a lot of unproven ‘potential’, which could massively backfire on us. the likes of Delap and Mctee were raved about on here, but it looks likely both will be playing in the championship next season. In short, I like what they’re trying to do, but it’s a massively high risk gamble. Ill reserve judgement on them until the start of next season, I think. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 5 August, 2022 Share Posted 5 August, 2022 Genuinely surprised by the negativity on this thread lately! I think our squad is comfortably good enough to finish at least 15th. We've added good quality depth, and specifically players to suit the way Ralph wants us to play. Plus he's finally got some decent coaches behind him and on the touchline. If we get a quality striker we'll be looking for a top 10 finish as a good season. If we don't i still think we'll come somewhere from 12th-15th even with an average year. Am i on a different planet to everyone else? Reading some of these comments i feel like it 😨😅 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 5 August, 2022 Share Posted 5 August, 2022 5 minutes ago, Dman said: SR haven’t let us down, but they’ve not set the world alight either. We’re still signing players in that 10-15m price bracket, just that we’ve got a few more of them this window. Whilst I like what we’ve done, we have signed a lot of unproven ‘potential’, which could massively backfire on us. the likes of Delap and Mctee were raved about on here, but it looks likely both will be playing in the championship next season. In short, I like what they’re trying to do, but it’s a massively high risk gamble. Ill reserve judgement on them until the start of next season, I think. I think part of the problem regarding level of fee is that (pretty obviously I think) the higher the transfer fee is the higher the salary is. Even though it was Reed who said it a while back (if I'm remembering correctly) we might know be able to afford one or two players in the mid 20ms or even into the 30ms but perhaps the jump I'm salary is too much🤷♂️ Having said that I do think we will sign a striker in the mid to high 20ms as anything less probably means "young" (again) or actually not that great; or perhaps "end of career. This next striker signing needs to focus entirely on quality for now and not potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 5 August, 2022 Share Posted 5 August, 2022 1 hour ago, coalman said: If we look at where we are versus last season. We've lost Forster, Long and Broja. Forster gave us more solidity in goal than McCarthy but both had terrible distribution. Bazunu is going to give the ball away less even before we get into him being more willing to claim crosses and talk to his backline. We shouldn't underestimate the confidence that comes from a keeper that's not going to invite pressure. KWP is still here and will have more licence to come forward in a 5-3-2 or 3-5-2. Livramento will be back. Djenepo gets in good positions but has also looked defensively solid (never thought I'd say this). Perraud is solid and has a season in the premier League behind him. We've added Bella-Kotchap who looks like a beast. Bednarek may be a bit checked out. Lyanco is always committed if erratic. Salisu can be dominant. Stephens can be solid or erratic. Overall I'd say we're stronger in defence. In centre mid we've added Lavia who looks tidy and will only get stronger. JWP is JWP. Romeu may be off the pace a bit. Our new system may suit Diallo more. I'd say stronger in the middle where we've sometimes been overrun. Creatively we've added Aribo who looks key already. Stu is fit. Walcott not what he was. Redmond great on his day but frustrating. Tella not sure yet. Moi largely anonymous. I'd say we're starting stronger than last season. Up front we look lightweight but peversely it may force us to give Armstrong and Adams the run they need to find form. Mara is one for the future but very exciting. We're weaker up top. Overall I think we have a stronger squad than last season. One which hopefully gets stronger as they gel and get used to the pace of the league. Goals are the concern and adding an extra striker makes this a good window. But I think we'll be harder to break down and have less moments of madness in it. Also excited by the backroom changes. Never understood why our first team coaches were all ex keepers. New training methods will also come into play as we progress through the season. Whether that's in time to save Ralph or to set up the next guy is an open question. Fair assessment but I'd say creatively we don't look good enough. Think we will see some battling draws but the wins may prove elusive without adequate firepower. Our strikers can't hit a barn door, and don't look they will be found much to try. That said, great job defensively and yes, the coaches overhaul is a good and important one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 5 August, 2022 Share Posted 5 August, 2022 1 hour ago, Pilchards said: Be bottom of the league at that stage which would make it harder to attract any kind of decent striker. You really need to find another team to 'support'. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 5 August, 2022 Share Posted 5 August, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Saint86 said: Genuinely surprised by the negativity on this thread lately! I think our squad is comfortably good enough to finish at least 15th. We've added good quality depth, and specifically players to suit the way Ralph wants us to play. Plus he's finally got some decent coaches behind him and on the touchline. If we get a quality striker we'll be looking for a top 10 finish as a good season. If we don't i still think we'll come somewhere from 12th-15th even with an average year. Am i on a different planet to everyone else? Reading some of these comments i feel like it 😨😅 This isn't a negative post, but genuinely interested - which teams do you think are definitely worse than us? Bompey, Fulham... then there are a bundle of clubs who look to be about our level. We'll see how Forest do. They might do fairly well (ie finish above bottom 3). Perhaps Brighton and Palace might not do as well as last season... interested in how you think we match up with these clubs as those are the ones we will be fighting for survival Edited 5 August, 2022 by Golac's Cunning Stunts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBizzier69 Posted 5 August, 2022 Share Posted 5 August, 2022 Genuine question - does anyone think that if we could sign a top player on a free, the club would smash any wage structure and pay them...say....£200k+ per week? Or do the club feel that this would upset the whole apple cart and so not entertain it? Even though ultimately they'd pay less over a few years without a transfer fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 5 August, 2022 Share Posted 5 August, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, LeBizzier69 said: Genuine question - does anyone think that if we could sign a top player on a free, the club would smash any wage structure and pay them...say....£200k+ per week? Or do the club feel that this would upset the whole apple cart and so not entertain it? Even though ultimately they'd pay less over a few years without a transfer fee. I can't see us ever offering a player 200k per week, it would create such an odd wage gap in the squad to everyone else. Our highest earner is on 100k p/w which is JWP, not really sure we'll ever go above that on new players - maybe renewing existing, but certainly not new players. Much the same way we'll never be spending £40m-50m on transfer fee's on single players either. Edited 5 August, 2022 by S-Clarke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 5 August, 2022 Share Posted 5 August, 2022 2 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: I can't see us ever offering a player 200k per week, it would create such an odd wage gap in the squad to everyone else. Our highest earner is on 100k p/w which is JWP, not really sure we'll ever go above that on new players - maybe renewing existing, but certainly not new players. Much the same way we'll never be spending £40m-50m on transfer fee's on single players either. Wouldn't it also have FFP implications? Not to mention being lumbered with a massively high earner and not being able to bring in others because of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 5 August, 2022 Share Posted 5 August, 2022 2 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: I can't see us ever offering a player 200k per week, it would create such an odd wage gap in the squad to everyone else. Our highest earner is on 100k p/w which is JWP, not really sure we'll ever go above that on new players - maybe renewing existing, but certainly not new players. Much the same way we'll never be spending £40m-50m on transfer fee's on single players either. Wouldn't it also have FFP implications? Not to mention being lumbered with a massively high earner and not being able to bring in others because of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 5 August, 2022 Share Posted 5 August, 2022 Just now, Golac's Cunning Stunts said: Wouldn't it also have FFP implications? Not to mention being lumbered with a massively high earner and not being able to bring in others because of it Yeah, FFP too - that is a bit of a sham though, I think. Some clubs are taken to the cleaners because of it, meanwhile Barca are able to do what they're doing. But as we're an honest club then yeah, we'd need to increase our marketing a hell of a lot to be operating in that wage budget. And as soon as you offer that to one new player, agents of any new potential addition will get a sniff and will want some of that for their own client too. A single player on that wage would throw our model out of the window. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintsfan79 Posted 5 August, 2022 Share Posted 5 August, 2022 Get Cavani in on a free for a year!! 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 5 August, 2022 Share Posted 5 August, 2022 3 minutes ago, Saintsfan79 said: Get Cavani in on a free for a year!! 😉 no resale value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 5 August, 2022 Share Posted 5 August, 2022 20 minutes ago, Golac's Cunning Stunts said: This isn't a negative post, but genuinely interested - which teams do you think are definitely worse than us? Bompey, Fulham... then there are a bundle of clubs who look to be about our level. We'll see how Forest do. They might do fairly well (ie finish above bottom 3). Perhaps Brighton and Palace might not do as well as last season... interested in how you think we match up with these clubs as those are the ones we will be fighting for survival Brighton and Palace will be absolutely fine. I reckon Everton and Leeds might not be great. Frank will be sacked six or seven games in and then they'll be ok. Leicester might wobble a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 5 August, 2022 Share Posted 5 August, 2022 Just now, DT said: Brighton and Palace will be absolutely fine. I reckon Everton and Leeds might not be great. Frank will be sacked six or seven games in and then they'll be ok. Leicester might wobble a bit. Brighton are getting gutted a little bit, they could struggle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 5 August, 2022 Share Posted 5 August, 2022 On 03/08/2022 at 21:05, MarkSFC said: https://twitter.com/OfficialBHAFC/status/1554916787384467463?t=3cHvg4Wbnl-BsFsLCqVlZQ&s=19 On 03/08/2022 at 21:07, S-Clarke said: Not sure what the point of that statement is, it's obvious he will be a Chelsea player very soon. As expected, a pointless statement by Brighton. Made themselves look very daft, and Chelsea have bantered them too. Fail. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 5 August, 2022 Share Posted 5 August, 2022 Quote Wolves have rejected Nottingham Forest’s third bid for midfielder Morgan Gibbs-White. Sky Sports News understands the package to be worth £35 million in total. It’s made up of £25 million and £10 in potential add-ons. £35m, in what world!! I'm not surprised we ran away from that deal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 5 August, 2022 Share Posted 5 August, 2022 26 minutes ago, Golac's Cunning Stunts said: This isn't a negative post, but genuinely interested - which teams do you think are definitely worse than us? Bompey, Fulham... then there are a bundle of clubs who look to be about our level. We'll see how Forest do. They might do fairly well (ie finish above bottom 3). Perhaps Brighton and Palace might not do as well as last season... interested in how you think we match up with these clubs as those are the ones we will be fighting for survival Forst difficult to judge as they have replaced so many players who were on loan last year half the side will be different. Palace I think could be this years surprise form 7th. But worse than us .... Bompey, Fulham, Forest(maybe/maybe not) Everton, Leeds, Brentford, Leicester. I'd have us in the Villa/Wolves/Brighton bracket. All this assumes we still get another goal scorer in quickly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 5 August, 2022 Share Posted 5 August, 2022 Conor Coady pushing to leave Wolves in search of first team football before the world cup. Shame he is too old for us to consider because he'd be perfect alongside Salisu and Kotchup in a back 3. Rumours are he might go on loan to Everton too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjosaint Posted 5 August, 2022 Share Posted 5 August, 2022 10 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: £35m, in what world!! I'm not surprised we ran away from that deal! If they feel he's worth that then surely they would keep him especially if Neves goes to United Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 5 August, 2022 Share Posted 5 August, 2022 38 minutes ago, Golac's Cunning Stunts said: This isn't a negative post, but genuinely interested - which teams do you think are definitely worse than us? Bompey, Fulham... then there are a bundle of clubs who look to be about our level. We'll see how Forest do. They might do fairly well (ie finish above bottom 3). Perhaps Brighton and Palace might not do as well as last season... interested in how you think we match up with these clubs as those are the ones we will be fighting for survival Fulham, Bournemouth, Forest all pretty much odds on to drop I have no faith in Brentford, Leeds, Everton and even Brighton/Leicester could be sucked in… Brighton as they’ve been weakened and Leicester genuinely look in disarray when you delve into their off field issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 5 August, 2022 Share Posted 5 August, 2022 4 minutes ago, for_heaven's_Saint said: Conor Coady pushing to leave Wolves in search of first team football before the world cup. Shame he is too old for us to consider because he'd be perfect alongside Salisu and Kotchup in a back 3. Rumours are he might go on loan to Everton too. Everton would be so odd, he's a Liverpool fan. From their academy. I can't see how that will ever work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintsfan79 Posted 5 August, 2022 Share Posted 5 August, 2022 24 minutes ago, Turkish said: no resale value. Unfortunately not but would be great for our current attackers to learn from! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 5 August, 2022 Share Posted 5 August, 2022 9 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said: Fulham, Bournemouth, Forest all pretty much odds on to drop I have no faith in Brentford, Leeds, Everton and even Brighton/Leicester could be sucked in… Brighton as they’ve been weakened and Leicester genuinely look in disarray when you delve into their off field issues Fulham and Bournemouth to go, Forest might just surive. Everton, Leicester, Brentford, Brighton, Us and Leeds to make up the rest of the bottom 8, we should have enough to avoid getting sucked into a proper battle if we can get a new striker, but i dont see us doing much better than 15th again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 5 August, 2022 Share Posted 5 August, 2022 25 minutes ago, Turkish said: Fulham and Bournemouth to go, Forest might just surive. Everton, Leicester, Brentford, Brighton, Us and Leeds to make up the rest of the bottom 8, we should have enough to avoid getting sucked into a proper battle if we can get a new striker, but i dont see us doing much better than 15th again. Apart from Ings when did we last get in a decent striker when we were were in the PL We have needed a decent striker for ages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 5 August, 2022 Share Posted 5 August, 2022 53 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: £35m, in what world!! I'm not surprised we ran away from that deal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 5 August, 2022 Share Posted 5 August, 2022 3 minutes ago, John B said: Apart from Ings when did we last get in a decent striker when we were were in the PL We have needed a decent striker for ages Graziano 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 5 August, 2022 Share Posted 5 August, 2022 57 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: £35m, in what world!! I'm not surprised we ran away from that deal! He was one of the best players in the Championship last year, and a player that did really well against Forest too - so they got a very good look at him. I know he's a Prem player officially, but that would be one of the biggest transfers for a player that just played a season in the Championship (there are bigger fees for players in teams just relegated) - Watkins being the largest at £30m. if we are spending £15m on a youth team player without a game under his belt, so are somewhat risky, then `proven' at senior level players (with age on your side) like him are going to be a lot more. £35m though...wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvSFC Posted 5 August, 2022 Share Posted 5 August, 2022 So, if Will Smallbone does well at Stoke, does he become a £35m player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 5 August, 2022 Share Posted 5 August, 2022 1 minute ago, HarvSFC said: So, if Will Smallbone does well at Stoke, does he become a £35m player? if he is one of the stand out players in the league...and then someone offers us that money, he is, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 5 August, 2022 Share Posted 5 August, 2022 13 minutes ago, Greenridge said: Graziano He is more one that turned out great rather than one that came in as a top player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 5 August, 2022 Share Posted 5 August, 2022 4 minutes ago, HarvSFC said: So, if Will Smallbone does well at Stoke, does he become a £35m player? its unfortunate that almost all of our youngsters haven't even been good enough to be loaned to championship side in recent years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 5 August, 2022 Share Posted 5 August, 2022 2 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said: He is more one that turned out great rather than one that came in as a top player He was possibly the best striker in the Dutch league the season before he came to us, having scored 55 goals in 66 games. We now can't even buy the better City/Chelsea youth team players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 5 August, 2022 Share Posted 5 August, 2022 3 hours ago, tajjuk said: Replacements that are clearly worse otherwise they would have been ahead of Bissouma and wanted by bigger clubs, doesn't sound like great planning to me. It would like us selling JWP and then saying Diallo was the replacement. Their squad was bang average at best, and it's now getting weaker. Like the other poster said, Maupay and Trossard had a little spell of above their normal form that accounted for a lot of their points, their previous performances suggest that is unlikely to repeat. To say their squad is way better than ours just doesn't make any sense. We've strengthened and they have got weaker, and the gap was hardly big as it was. It's their model, when Bissouma broke through about 4 years ago he wouldn't have been as good the previous CM, he was slowly brought on over a season before he established himself as the first pick CM. Mwepu looks a real force, potentially better than Bissouma and definitely better than your example of Diallo. Bissouma was always going to be sold this summer, they've kept his market value high by playing him when fit and bringing through the likes of Mwepu, Caceido and Mac Allister to replace him, that's clear to see and for clubs like Brighton and us is the best model to follow. Planning doesn't equal success, but a good plan gives you the best chance of succeeding. If we finish above Brighton we will have had a remarkable season but I just can't see that happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 5 August, 2022 Share Posted 5 August, 2022 13 minutes ago, notnowcato said: It's their model, when Bissouma broke through about 4 years ago he wouldn't have been as good the previous CM, he was slowly brought on over a season before he established himself as the first pick CM. Mwepu looks a real force, potentially better than Bissouma and definitely better than your example of Diallo. Bissouma was always going to be sold this summer, they've kept his market value high by playing him when fit and bringing through the likes of Mwepu, Caceido and Mac Allister to replace him, that's clear to see and for clubs like Brighton and us is the best model to follow. Planning doesn't equal success, but a good plan gives you the best chance of succeeding. If we finish above Brighton we will have had a remarkable season but I just can't see that happening. Even if we finish 19th and they finish 20th which is certainly a possibility? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
le_tiss Posted 5 August, 2022 Share Posted 5 August, 2022 (edited) obviously didn't ask anyone on SaintsWeb - would have been a very different outcome 🤡 Arsenal - 5 - £112.85m - Turner (£4.85m), Marquinhos (£3m), Vieira (£30m), Jesus (£45m), Zinchenko (£30m)Aston Villa - 4 - £45.8m - Coutinho (£17m), Kamara (free), Carlos (£26m), Olsen (£2.8m)Bournemouth - 3 - £10m - Fredericks (free), Rothwell (free), Taverner (£10m) Brentford - 4 - £30m - Hickey (£14m), Lewis-Potter (£16m), Strakosha (free), Mee (free) Brighton - 3 - £15.5m - Enciso (£9.5m), Adingra (£6m), Colwill (loan)Chelsea - 5 - £162.5m - Sterling (£47.5m), Koulibaly (£33m), Slonina (£12m), Chukwuemeka (£15m), Cucurella (£55m)Crystal Palace - 4 - £26.5m - Ebiowei (fee to be agreed), Johnstone (free), Doucoure (£18m), Richards (£8.5m)Everton - 3 - £20m - Tarkowski (free), Vinagre (loan), McNeil (£20m)Fulham - 5 - £41.4m - Palhinha (£17m), Pereira (£10m), Mbabu (£6.4m), Leno (£8m), Duffy (loan) Leeds - 5 - £78.7m - Aaronson (£22.2m), Kristensen (£10m), Roca (£10m), Adams (£15m), Sinisterra (£21.5m)Leicester - 0 - £0 - Liverpool - 3 - £73.5m - Carvalho (£5m), Nunez (£64.3m), Ramsey (£4.2m)Man City - 3 - £93.1m - Haaland (£51.1m), Moreno (free), Phillips (£42m)Man Utd - 3 - £59.1m - Malacia (£13m), Eriksen (free), Martinez (£46.1m)Newcastle - 3 - £53m - Targett (£12m), Pope (£10m), Botman (£31m) Nottingham Forest - 11 - £78.7m - Awoniyi (£17m), Henderson (loan), Biancone (£5m), Niakhate (£8.5m), Richards (£8.5m), Williams (£17m), Hennessey (free), O'Brien & Toffolo (£10m combined), Lingard (free), Mangala (£12.7m) Southampton - 6 - £46.6m - Bazunu (£12m), Lis (free), Bella-Kotchap (£8.6m), Lavia (£10.5m), Aribo (£6m), Mara (£9.5m)Tottenham - 7 - £130m - Perisic (free), Forster (free), Bissouma (£25m), Romero (£42.5m), Richarlison (£50m), Lenglet (loan), Spence (£12.5m) West Ham - 4 - £80.25m - Aguerd (£30m), Areola (£7.75m), Downes (£12m), Scamacca (£30.5m)Wolves - 1 - £20.5m - Collins (£20.5m)Total Signings: 82Total Spend: £1,188,000,000 Transfer Window SLAMS Shut: 11pm, 1 September Edited 5 August, 2022 by le_tiss Transfer Spend update 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 5 August, 2022 Share Posted 5 August, 2022 3 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said: I’ve just looked at the transfer window and it doesn’t slam shut©️ until the 2nd September 😳 By which time we will have played 5 matches and preparing for the 6th the following day, more than 15% of the season. The lack of a front man is really going to hurt, I think we can cope until then in other positions. Perhaps we let Shane leave too soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 5 August, 2022 Share Posted 5 August, 2022 57 minutes ago, John B said: Apart from Ings when did we last get in a decent striker when we were were in the PL We have needed a decent striker for ages Che is decent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlanta Saint Posted 5 August, 2022 Share Posted 5 August, 2022 9 minutes ago, le_tiss said: obviously didn't ask anyone on SaintsWeb - would have been a very different outcome 🤡 Arsenal - 5 - £112.85m - Turner (£4.85m), Marquinhos (£3m), Vieira (£30m), Jesus (£45m), Zinchenko (£30m)Aston Villa - 4 - £45.8m - Coutinho (£17m), Kamara (free), Carlos (£26m), Olsen (£2.8m)Bournemouth - 3 - £10m - Fredericks (free), Rothwell (free), Taverner (£10m) Brentford - 4 - £30m - Hickey (£14m), Lewis-Potter (£16m), Strakosha (free), Mee (free) Brighton - 3 - £15.5m - Enciso (£9.5m), Adingra (£6m), Colwill (loan)Chelsea - 5 - £162.5m - Sterling (£47.5m), Koulibaly (£33m), Slonina (£12m), Chukwuemeka (£15m), Cucurella (£55m)Crystal Palace - 4 - £26.5m - Ebiowei (fee to be agreed), Johnstone (free), Doucoure (£18m), Richards (£8.5m)Everton - 3 - £20m - Tarkowski (free), Vinagre (loan), McNeil (£20m)Fulham - 5 - £41.4m - Palhinha (£17m), Pereira (£10m), Mbabu (£6.4m), Leno (£8m), Duffy (loan) Leeds - 5 - £78.7m - Aaronson (£22.2m), Kristensen (£10m), Roca (£10m), Adams (£15m), Sinisterra (£21.5m)Leicester - 0 - £0 - Liverpool - 3 - £73.5m - Carvalho (£5m), Nunez (£64.3m), Ramsey (£4.2m)Man City - 3 - £93.1m - Haaland (£51.1m), Moreno (free), Phillips (£42m)Man Utd - 3 - £59.1m - Malacia (£13m), Eriksen (free), Martinez (£46.1m)Newcastle - 3 - £53m - Targett (£12m), Pope (£10m), Botman (£31m) Nottingham Forest - 11 - £78.7m - Awoniyi (£17m), Henderson (loan), Biancone (£5m), Niakhate (£8.5m), Richards (£8.5m), Williams (£17m), Hennessey (free), O'Brien & Toffolo (£10m combined), Lingard (free), Mangala (£12.7m) Southampton - 6 - £46.6m - Bazunu (£12m), Lis (free), Bella-Kotchap (£8.6m), Lavia (£10.5m), Aribo (£6m), Mara (£9.5m)Tottenham - 7 - £130m - Perisic (free), Forster (free), Bissouma (£25m), Romero (£42.5m), Richarlison (£50m), Lenglet (loan), Spence (£12.5m) West Ham - 4 - £80.25m - Aguerd (£30m), Areola (£7.75m), Downes (£12m), Scamacca (£30.5m)Wolves - 1 - £20.5m - Collins (£20.5m)Total Signings: 82Total Spend: £1,188,000,000 Transfer Window SLAMS Shut: 11pm, 1 September Meh! everyone is optimistic about their clubs and the start of a new season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 5 August, 2022 Share Posted 5 August, 2022 12 minutes ago, Ex Lion Tamer said: Che is decent I have been watching Saints for nearly 60 years and can ensure you that he is not a decent striker he is adequate one like Norman Dean or Frank Saul or Bobby Stokes I have been very lucky to see decent strikers like Ron Davies George O'Brien Martin Chivers Peter Osgood Micky Channon Steve Moran MLT Alan Shearer Frank Worthington Charlie George Colin Clarke Peter Crouch Henri Camara Ted McDougal Phil Boyer James Beattie Kevin Keegan Rod Wallace and a few others in Saints colours 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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