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16 minutes ago, ally_uk said:

Agree with the above give them 40 million and get it done. 

 

Would be a signal of intent for sure. Least we know he is capable and has massive potential.... 

 

Sell the deadwood just get Broja here for me striker wise he is the one I want here. 

Easy isnt it. Sell him, him and him, bung them £40m for Broja, job done. Fancy a job son?

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35 minutes ago, ally_uk said:

Agree with the above give them 40 million and get it done. 

 

Would be a signal of intent for sure. Least we know he is capable and has massive potential.... 

 

Sell the deadwood just get Broja here for me striker wise he is the one I want here. 

If SR had anything about them they’d go out and get it #DONE with Dembele and Broja tomorrow. Combined cost of £60-£70m is fuck all once we’ve shifted all of our deadwood to the championship. 
 

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16 hours ago, Master Bates said:

The old ones aren't about that much anymore. Hypo, manji, Appy, Weston Saint. New generation coming through.

Saint Garret guy fella?

 

12 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said:

I’ve not heard much recently but I am on holiday. Will ask around. 

The hotel concierge might be worth asking! They know their stuff!

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25 minutes ago, Dman said:

If SR had anything about them they’d go out and get it #DONE with Dembele and Broja tomorrow. Combined cost of £60-£70m is fuck all once we’ve shifted all of our deadwood to the championship. 
 

The club have literally said they hope to see outgoings this week but are struggling to get any interest in them

Not sure its quite as easy as you say unless SR have access to the in game editor and can just ‘move to another club’

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2 hours ago, Sheaf Saint said:

The manner of his departure? What did he do wrong exactly?

The way I see it, he had a year left on his contract and he accepted an offer of a better wage elsewhere and we got a big fee for him. Why do some people have a problem with that? It's not like he slagged us off in the media and smeared shit all over the walls at Staplewood on his way out or anything.

I'm not saying I would want him back - that ship has sailed. But he did nothing to deserve some of the vitriol he gets here. It's just childish really.

That's not what I meant at all - I totally agree with everything you say. I was referring to his supposed frustration with Ralph and what was ultimately a surprise move to a mid-tier club (all of which could be debated, of course).

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1 minute ago, Saint Garrett said:

I must be missing something with Cucarella. I think he’s a decent player but nothing more. £50m?! Bonkers money for him. Would surely make him the most expensive full back in premier league history after Cancelo?! 

Agree, the new Nathan Ake fee wise.

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19 minutes ago, Dusic said:

Surely we can't even consider Colwill until we get rid of two of Lyanco, Stephens, Bednarek and Valery?

Pretty much. I wonder if we expecting more interest in Bednarek hence the Colwill links. Probably a similar situation where we'd like a new winger but can't really sanction it until we lose Walcott/Redmond.

Cucurella is also really good, he's tailormade for a City system due to how good he is in possession. I believe he has 4 years left too which explains the fee. Also filled in at LCB for Brighton a good amount last year which is why it makes sense for Chelsea along with Chilwell cover.

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12 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said:

💔

 

Wow, Chelsea are going all out for their targets, it may all be paper talk, but to scupper both man city and united deals is showing alot of balls. All the work the Manchester clubs, especially United for de Jong, to loose out to Chelsea would be hilarious.  

But the Chelsea youth must be worried, this continued loading up of big players to Chelsea must have an affect on their long term decisions. So in the sport of getting one over your rivals (yes we have played Chelsea well enough to call us a rival, hehe) let's go after one of their targets!

Cesare Casadei, 19, Italian midfield mistro! Chelsea low balling Inter at 6 mill, they want closer to 15m or a lower price with buy back, LET'S DO IT!

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4 minutes ago, Saint Matty 76 said:

Pretty much. I wonder if we expecting more interest in Bednarek hence the Colwill links. Probably a similar situation where we'd like a new winger but can't really sanction it until we lose Walcott/Redmond.

Cucurella is also really good, he's tailormade for a City system due to how good he is in possession. I believe he has 4 years left too which explains the fee. Also filled in at LCB for Brighton a good amount last year which is why it makes sense for Chelsea along with Chilwell cover.

The club have been a bit blinkered for years re: Bednarek, thinking he's better than he actually is. The lack of takers this summer says it all really, he's not really highly rated by anyone else and has been part of one of the worst defenses in the PL in recent years.

I imagine they think they can get £25m for him, in my opinion clubs are only going to be 10-15m tops. 

We are certainly interested in Colwill, but like others have said we cannot realastically carry Bednarek, Lyanco, Stephens, Salisu, Bella-Kotchap, Simeu, Valery, Colwill. Need to lose 'at least 1' before we can think about adding anything else there.

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1 minute ago, S-Clarke said:

I imagine they think they can get £25m for him, in my opinion clubs are only going to be 10-15m tops. 

They probably thought that if they could get £16 for Vestergaard then they could easily get £25 for Bednarek.

Lightening doesn't strike in the same place twice!

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  • 6. Oriol Romeu – 2023
  • 11. Nathan Redmond – 2023
  • 19. Moussa Djénépo – 2023
  • 24. Mohamed Elyounoussi – 2023
  • 32. Theo Walcott - 2023
  • 43. Yan Valery – 2023

Guess these are on the ones we'd sell if we could, all of them with a year left on their contracts. Not difficult to understand why we cant get rid of any of them. Only really Romeu and perhaps Redmond that you'd think would get into another premier league team.

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18 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said:

I must be missing something with Cucarella. I think he’s a decent player but nothing more. £50m?! Bonkers money for him. Would surely make him the most expensive full back in premier league history after Cancelo?! 

I think he is superb. Great ball retention, fast, creative, good going forward. Can shoot. That is quite a lot of money but hey

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21 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said:

I must be missing something with Cucarella. I think he’s a decent player but nothing more. £50m?! Bonkers money for him. Would surely make him the most expensive full back in premier league history after Cancelo?! 

Was he the guy we missed out on for the sake of £1m because we wouldnt go over our £15m cap?

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9 minutes ago, Maggie May said:

Not doubting you but what’s the Broja’s claimed issue with Ralph? Anything to do with his loss of form? 

A few people (including the Athletic reporter I believe) have alluded to Ralph not being the best at man management. I believe he isn't the most warm individual and I was told that he treats players differently depending on if he likes them or not. 

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12 minutes ago, Sunglasses Ron said:

They probably thought that if they could get £16 for Vestergaard then they could easily get £25 for Bednarek.

Lightening doesn't strike in the same place twice!

Vestergaard was signed mid-August with Leicester panicking that all of their centre-backs were out injured. We might need to get through a couple of matches before a club begins to panic and looks to Bednarek, an experienced Premier League centre-back and international for an answer. Unfortunately, Everton don't seem to have a lot of money these days, as they'd be the club you'd bank on making a panic signing.

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4 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

A few people (including the Athletic reporter I believe) have alluded to Ralph not being the best at man management. I believe he isn't the most warm individual and I was told that he treats players differently depending on if he likes them or not. 

But, specifically, what about Broja?

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11 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

A few people (including the Athletic reporter I believe) have alluded to Ralph not being the best at man management. I believe he isn't the most warm individual and I was told that he treats players differently depending on if he likes them or not. 

As Lawrie Mac used to say 'some players need an arm round the shoulder, some players need a kick up the backside' Nothing new in that. I expect Ralph dishes out both as required and i guess the one who gets the kick up the backside isn't too happy

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17 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

A few people (including the Athletic reporter I believe) have alluded to Ralph not being the best at man management. I believe he isn't the most warm individual and I was told that he treats players differently depending on if he likes them or not. 

To be honest I havent liked most of our players these last 4 yrs either so dont blame him.

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27 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Was he the guy we missed out on for the sake of £1m because we wouldnt go over our £15m cap?

I think Dan Sheldon said that, yeah. He'd have been absolutely perfect at LWB in this new system for us. 

Although I imagine he'd probably be leaving all the same if he'd have joined then too.

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12 minutes ago, Dellman said:

As Lawrie Mac used to say 'some players need an arm round the shoulder, some players need a kick up the backside' Nothing new in that. I expect Ralph dishes out both as required and i guess the one who gets the kick up the backside isn't too happy

But you accept that some managers are better at players relations than others? Hence why someone like Klopp is so good at it. I have been told that is not one of Ralph's strengths. 

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59 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said:

Indeed. Which is why it won’t happen. 

The Lyanco signing last summer was a big mistake, especially as a permanent. We already had Stephens who was a back-up player and now essentially have three CBs in Lyanco, Stephens and Valery that are never going to become regulars starters.

In hindsight it would have been better to get someone on loan last year if they were only going to be bit part as now are stuck with him for another 3 years.

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5 minutes ago, Dusic said:

The Lyanco signing last summer was a big mistake, especially as a permanent. We already had Stephens who was a back-up player and now essentially have three CBs in Lyanco, Stephens and Valery that are never going to become regulars starters.

In hindsight it would have been better to get someone on loan last year if they were only going to be bit part as now are stuck with him for another 3 years.

The Lyanco signing just seemed weird all round - Even after a bit of google scouting.

Got a feeling people behind the scenes are little surprised nobody has come in for any of the fringe players this summer.

Easy for me to say, but if I was SR & investing in players - I would push the boat out for Colwill.  Likely to pay-off very well in the future.

[* Various MLG notes added retrospectively.]

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24 minutes ago, Dusic said:

The Lyanco signing last summer was a big mistake, especially as a permanent. We already had Stephens who was a back-up player and now essentially have three CBs in Lyanco, Stephens and Valery that are never going to become regulars starters.

In hindsight it would have been better to get someone on loan last year if they were only going to be bit part as now are stuck with him for another 3 years.

I'd agree with this, I felt that was our oppertunity to 'upgrade' on Vesterguaard and to buy better than we had, which in turn would demote Bednarek etc.

But we didn't have any money to play with, apart from a bit of loose change in the £4-5m bracket. Should have just got a loan to cover us, as it's hindered us a little now. It was a squad filler when we needed 'better' players, not more squad fillers.

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We make too many squad signings to try and maintain our position in the league.

Would be nice to push on and make more of the Aribo calibre.

I honestly think the next two signings are important to our season and I hope they are a quality CB and CF.

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31 minutes ago, Pilchards said:

We make too many squad signings to try and maintain our position in the league.

Would be nice to push on and make more of the Aribo calibre.

I honestly think the next two signings are important to our season and I hope they are a quality CB and CF.

I doubt the club or Bazunu, Bella-Kotchap & Lavia and their agents think they are 'squad signings'. The sales pitch to them would be join Saints and you'll be in the first XI and play in the Premier League extremely soon. I'd guess Bazunu and Bella-Kotchap will start vs Spurs and even Lavia might.

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I heard Dembele actually turned up to sign the contract but was taking his time getting his pen out of his jacket. Ralph then launched into him saying he wasn't working hard enough for the team which put him off signing so farked off back to France quickly.

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2 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

A few people (including the Athletic reporter I believe) have alluded to Ralph not being the best at man management. I believe he isn't the most warm individual and I was told that he treats players differently depending on if he likes them or not. 

Is there anyone who doesn't treat players differently depending on whether they like them or not?

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2 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

A few people (including the Athletic reporter I believe) have alluded to Ralph not being the best at man management. I believe he isn't the most warm individual and I was told that he treats players differently depending on if he likes them or not. 

Don't most people 

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2 hours ago, Turkish said:
  • 6. Oriol Romeu – 2023
  • 11. Nathan Redmond – 2023
  • 19. Moussa Djénépo – 2023
  • 24. Mohamed Elyounoussi – 2023
  • 32. Theo Walcott - 2023
  • 43. Yan Valery – 2023

Guess these are on the ones we'd sell if we could, all of them with a year left on their contracts. Not difficult to understand why we cant get rid of any of them. Only really Romeu and perhaps Redmond that you'd think would get into another premier league team.

With the exception of Romeu summer 2023 will be a time of celebration getting rid of this lot of no hopers.

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