kelkel31 Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 7 minutes ago, warwicksaint said: Improved our GK (Bazunu), CB (ABK) attacking midfielder (Aribo) and potentially striker in Mara but too soon to tell yet. How have we not tried to fix the glaring problems? We just lost to the champions league semi finalists last season ffs. Wasn’t a bad performance and the Monaco 2nd half showed there’s plenty to look forward to. Were you expecting us to dick them 5-0? As for djenepo, have you watched any pre season as he actually looks quite good there as an attacking option, just needs to work on his finishing Im sorry but you cant see that not a single one of the players we signed walk straight into the starting line up without any arguments. OK then. 1 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warwicksaint Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 1 minute ago, kelkel31 said: Im sorry but you cant see that not a single one of the players we signed walk straight into the starting line up without any arguments. OK then. What?? So you think McCarthy should be starting, Stephens should replace ABK and redmond start over Aribo? What are you on about? They’re clearly an improvement 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 2 minutes ago, kelkel31 said: Im sorry but you cant see that not a single one of the players we signed walk straight into the starting line up without any arguments. OK then. Thats doesn't actually make any sense mate, but if you're saying that none of the signings go straight in, you're wrong. Aribo 100% does, Bazunu for me too but I get the argument. ABK probably does. Lavia will likely be first choice very quickly. Mara a little longer. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 32 minutes ago, revolution saint said: So he rested Che during much of the pre season so that he’ll be fit for the spurs game? Yeah that makes sense. He played internationals during the Summer so came back to pre-season late (along with Stuart Armstrong and Prowsey and probably one or two others) so pre-season was somewhat different for him (and them). Of course if we have someone lined up to come in then maybe he is on his way, but some of the guff in that article is utter nonsense, especially the bit about "down the pecking order". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelkel31 Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 4 minutes ago, MarkSFC said: Thats doesn't actually make any sense mate, but if you're saying that none of the signings go straight in, you're wrong. Aribo 100% does, Bazunu for me too but I get the argument. ABK probably does. Lavia will likely be first choice very quickly. Mara a little longer. Well it seems to me that a few of you at least are going to be very surprised when the line up is announced next week, I hope I'm wrong, shocked if i am though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 3 minutes ago, kelkel31 said: Well it seems to me that a few of you at least are going to be very surprised when the line up is announced next week, I hope I'm wrong, shocked if i am though. I think you are in for a shock if you don't think Bazunu, Aribo, Bella-Kotchap and possibly Lavia start vs Spurs. Why do you think they all did in the final preparation game? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 3 minutes ago, kelkel31 said: Well it seems to me that a few of you at least are going to be very surprised when the line up is announced next week, I hope I'm wrong, shocked if i am though. What’s your guess on the line up for next week then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, kelkel31 said: Well it seems to me that a few of you at least are going to be very surprised when the line up is announced next week, I hope I'm wrong, shocked if i am though. So you think that Aribo won't start? If he doesn't, Ralph needs to go immediately. Other than for injury of course. Bazanu should but RH may well bottle it with Amc. The other 3 I've already stated aren't immediate starters for sure but ABK and Lavia should. Edited 31 July, 2022 by MarkSFC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 8 minutes ago, VectisSaint said: He played internationals during the Summer so came back to pre-season late (along with Stuart Armstrong and Prowsey and probably one or two others) so pre-season was somewhat different for him (and them). Of course if we have someone lined up to come in then maybe he is on his way, but some of the guff in that article is utter nonsense, especially the bit about "down the pecking order". Yeah but Stuart Armstrong has been used more than Che, or at least feels like it. Plus that doesn’t really explain the lack of minutes at the end of last season. I agree he shouldn’t have fallen down the pecking order as he’s our best current striker by a mile which makes his lack of game time even more confusing. You’d have thought that a major change in formation would also necessitate playing him more than he has, so that we’re as best prepared as possible. I’m not saying there’s any truth in the article and the fee is laughable but Che should have been involved more (unless he’s carrying an injury). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 Sounds like Bayern want Zirkzee to stay this season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo1976 Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 19 hours ago, FarehamSaintJames said: Carlos Fierro. Distant relative of Ferrero Rocher............ill get my coat. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo1976 Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 4 hours ago, Appy said: Would be a weird one from us Maybe that could pave the way for a Werner loan to buy option from Chelsea or Hudson Odi?........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 Fuck off. Unless as I have suspected we have got a sensational striker lined up. Still reckon we have got 3 or more signings coming up. Sports Republic said a while ago they would cover every position in the team 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 1 minute ago, manji said: Fuck off. Unless as I have suspected we have got a sensational striker lined up. Still reckon we have got 3 or more signings coming up. Sports Republic said a while ago they would cover every position in the team 10m? Try at least double that especially with the $$ they received this summer. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Corbyn Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 If there's any truth in it, the club really seem to rate Che less than the fans. He's been a really reliable striker for 2 1/2 seasons, should be a good £20 million surely. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 Che and new mystery striker with Aribo backing up would be perfect. I know the report was Alan Nixon but Leeds fans on Twitter getting excited. after all we’ve done this summer I can’t see SR weakening the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 3 minutes ago, manji said: Che and new mystery striker with Aribo backing up would be perfect. I know the report was Alan Nixon but Leeds fans on Twitter getting excited. after all we’ve done this summer I can’t see SR weakening the team. Be perfect if the new mystery striker is any good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BERMUDASAINT Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 1 hour ago, kelkel31 said: Well it seems to me that a few of you at least are going to be very surprised when the line up is announced next week, I hope I'm wrong, shocked if i am though. I presume you mean our established players will start as you do not rate any of the new signing. Why would I be worried about our established players playing against a team they drew, lost by one goal and won against? Seems as if they were good enough against Spuds last year. Why would I be worried this year. Our players last year were good enough to stay up, we added depth, why are you still predicting doom and gloom? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 20 minutes ago, Jeremy Corbyn said: If there's any truth in it, the club really seem to rate Che less than the fans. He's been a really reliable striker for 2 1/2 seasons, should be a good £20 million surely. 21 goals in a 110 games. Maybe the management have analysed the stats and wonder if there is room for improvement. We finished 15th and scored just 43 goals last season. Some of our players are not as good as we'd like to think. Perhaps Che is overrated by us fans? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 5 hours ago, SuperSAINT said: https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/19374024/leeds-che-adams-transfer-southampton/ This rumour has come up time and time again. Nixon loves to reuse a story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 (edited) In other news, Timo Werner linked to Newcastle on loan. Not that we had any chance of getting him anyway, although I’m sure a few teenage gamers on here would beg to differ 🤣 As for Che Adams, I can’t see him leaving given he, Adam Armstrong and Sekou Mara are our only out and out strikers five days before the Premier League season kicks off; and one of them is vastly inexperienced/match fit. Edited 31 July, 2022 by FarehamSaintJames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 It just feels like a re-hashed story from last year, I just don’t understand why we would sell arguably our current best senior striker to who is probably regarded right now a relegation rival for anything other than a high fee Id also question why, when Ralph clearly is looking to further strengthen our attacking line, why on earth we’d sell one of our likely starters ? Unless we suddenly are getting 2 strikers in of first 11 quality then this seems a very very unrealistic transfer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 (edited) Leeds were interested in Che before we signed him, and then they tried to get him again after his first season here but we rebuffed their approaches. Feels like it may have been rehashed, but there's no smoke without fire and all that. Maybe the club feel they have a couple of targets who outperform Adams, but to get both targets we'd need to move on some of our players first. There's no doubts that Adams is our current best forward, but it's not a huge bar. If we are to have a somewhat decent season then Adams needs to start scoring more goals, or we need to replace him or partner him with someone who does. Edited 31 July, 2022 by S-Clarke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 5 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Leeds were interested in Che before we signed him, and then they tried to get him again after his first season here but we rebuffed their approaches. Feels like it may have been rehashed, but there's no smoke without fire and all that. The media can make things up without any truth to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 £10 Million for Adams?! Erm no...Double it and we'll talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djharvey Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 19 minutes ago, Chez said: 21 goals in a 110 games. Maybe the management have analysed the stats and wonder if there is room for improvement. We finished 15th and scored just 43 goals last season. Some of our players are not as good as we'd like to think. Perhaps Che is overrated by us fans? He's just the best of a bad bunch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 “If Che Adams is the answer, you’re asking the wrong question.” He is a shite finisher. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Saints Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 Nixon is the one that said KWP was valued at 3 quid a few weeks back. Non story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 Literally he makes things up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 This must be a load of bollocks, can’t see why any other Prem club would be interested in Che with his poor strike rate for this league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 Would we be stronger if we signed a Delap/Broja level striker, sold Che and brought back Ings? I still have a feeling Ings will be back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 I'm expecting people who've said that he's shit to complain that we might sell him. He's a workhorse who has improved, but he's not quite good enough. If we can secure an upgrade, I'd move him on. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 4 minutes ago, Suhari said: Would we be stronger if we signed a Delap/Broja level striker, sold Che and brought back Ings? I still have a feeling Ings will be back. I like the look of Delap and would like to see him come here, but you can’t tell me he is currently better than Adams having hardly played a senior game or ever scored a senior goal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 Delap going to Stoke is a huge disappointment. Ok, we failed to get him on a permanent deal but surely we could have pushed for a 12 month loan? Seems crazy that we've missed out on him to bloody Stoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 16 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said: I like the look of Delap and would like to see him come here, but you can’t tell me he is currently better than Adams having hardly played a senior game or ever scored a senior goal. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said: “If Che Adams is the answer, you’re asking the wrong question.” He is a shite finisher. I would personally let him go for 20 million, he s proven he can play for a bottom 10 club, if we want to aim higher we need better Edited 31 July, 2022 by stevy777_x 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpin4rizeal Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 35 minutes ago, egg said: I'm expecting people who've said that he's shit to complain that we might sell him. He's a workhorse who has improved, but he's not quite good enough. If we can secure an upgrade, I'd move him on. This, for the money we paid for him I wouldn’t say he has been a success. chips in the odd goal 5-8 a season man.. If we can take a profit on him we can try again to find a prolific striker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 25 minutes ago, Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd said: Delap going to Stoke is a huge disappointment. Ok, we failed to get him on a permanent deal but surely we could have pushed for a 12 month loan? Seems crazy that we've missed out on him to bloody Stoke. Don't see it as at all disappointing. If he goes to Stoke it's because Man City think developmentally that's the best place for him. Don't see a loan being that appealing to Saints either. Broja had had a season in Holland before us & even then he was not the finished product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swannymere Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 1 hour ago, Wade Garrett said: “If Che Adams is the answer, you’re asking the wrong question.” Please tell me your quoting somebody else, that's a whole new level of narcissism; even for this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 13 minutes ago, pimpin4rizeal said: This, for the money we paid for him I wouldn’t say he has been a success. chips in the odd goal 5-8 a season man.. If we can take a profit on him we can try again to find a prolific striker Considering the fees being talked about for Delap and Broja, not sure how Che hasn’t been worth the (up to) £15mil we paid for him. Personally think he’s been a good team player and worth the fee, would be disappointed if we let him go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice Fernandes no.1 fan Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 Coventry striker Gyokeres just scored a great goal, 24, scored 17 for them last season and is 6 foot 2 but mobile, seems like the sort of player we might look at; or those around us 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 (edited) Selling Che for £10m has to be a non story. It's less than we paid for him and we've developed him into a far better player than when he joined. He is a decent striker for us, and the only one who bullies defenders physically - which causes a real nuisance and helps us move the play and pressure into the oppo 3rd. Our best two strikers are Adams and Armstrong imo. And with aribo and Armstrong supporting them they'll cause problems. Doubly so with good wing back play. Letting either go without signing a top quality striker is an error IMO. We would be weakening our front line. It's doubtful the young kid from France is going to be the answer this season I'd say. If we want to raise funds - then start with players more on the periphery - redmond, Ely, 1x lyanco/stephens/Valery, diallo. Not our best 1st team striker! Edited 31 July, 2022 by Saint86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzfunk Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 20 minutes ago, Fabrice Fernandes no.1 fan said: Coventry striker Gyokeres just scored a great goal, 24, scored 17 for them last season and is 6 foot 2 but mobile, seems like the sort of player we might look at; or those around us Was a superb goal. He was pretty poor today overall, have seen him play much better than that. He had a real purple patch last season and there would have been a lot of people looking at him. His missus is a footballer too and was on the bench the other night for Sweden ladies. Coventry have a few players that could possibly make the step up. Callum O'Hare in particular, who missed out today due to a hamstring injury, but rumours are flying he could be on the move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAY-Z Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 30 minutes ago, saintwbu said: Considering the fees being talked about for Delap and Broja, not sure how Che hasn’t been worth the (up to) £15mil we paid for him. Personally think he’s been a good team player and worth the fee, would be disappointed if we let him go. Exactly 7 goals (8 really if you include the Man U “goal”) + 3 assists last season vs Broja 6 goals + 0 assists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forester Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 I would be sorry to see Adams go, but assuming we got a good price and lined up replacement it would be utterly criminal to sell him before we play them at home in two weeks time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpin4rizeal Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 56 minutes ago, saintwbu said: Considering the fees being talked about for Delap and Broja, not sure how Che hasn’t been worth the (up to) £15mil we paid for him. Personally think he’s been a good team player and worth the fee, would be disappointed if we let him go. With delap and broja you are paying for the potential really they are kids that are standout youngsters at clubs with the best academies.. also I find it weird how some of our fanbase have some weird fetish for players who have just got a lot of games and proven they ain’t gonna score much like che and long for example. carillo would probably score 5 or 6 goals a season too if he played most of the games and he’s a laughing stock on here also didn’t carillo score quite early in his saints career before being binned off.. whilst it took che months and months to get his first goal. just saying for me adams like long before him just isn’t a player who can be relied upon to get the goals we need so if we can make a profit on him and roll the dice on someone who can I’d say go for it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 1 hour ago, Baird of the land said: Don't see it as at all disappointing. If he goes to Stoke it's because Man City think developmentally that's the best place for him. Don't see a loan being that appealing to Saints either. Broja had had a season in Holland before us & even then he was not the finished product. If he goes to Stoke its because Rory Delap is a first team coach there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 2 hours ago, egg said: I'm expecting people who've said that he's shit to complain that we might sell him. He's a workhorse who has improved, but he's not quite good enough. If we can secure an upgrade, I'd move him on. Get our money back (ideally a little more) and roll the dice again. Someone up thread mentioned movement - never seen a striker with such poor movement and anticipation in the box. Only thing worse is his one on one finishing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintJackoInHurworth Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 Just putting aside the random rumours about us selling Che Adams for a moment, it seems to have gone very quiet in relation to us signing anyone and especially another striker. Indeed the strikers we have been linked with seem to be becoming increasingly more unlikely all the time: Armando Broja - linked to loads of clubs, not least Real Madrid, while Chelsea are short of first team strikers and seem to want to keep him. Liam Delap - strong rumours that he is about to go to Stoke on loan. Sasa Kalajdzic - linked to Man Utd, Spurs, Brighton, Roma and West Ham as well as Saints and rumours that he is only prepared to move to a 'big club'. Moussa Dembele - no recent news in relation to Saints; has recently been linked with Man Utd. Other than these, who else are we looking at? Is it still possible that we will sign one of the above? What does anyone think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 1 hour ago, Saint86 said: If we want to raise funds - then start with players more on the periphery - redmond, Ely, 1x lyanco/stephens/Valery, diallo. Not our best 1st team striker! sure, but who is offering even buttons for any of those players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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