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Summer 2022 Transfer Window

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4 minutes ago, Saint Keef said:

For £120m they can have him. The nearer to the end of the window and teams start to get more desperate, the prices will rise.

If Declan Rice is worth £130m then JWP with his dead balls must be worth £150m. Ronaldo will score loads of headers from his free kicks.

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Diabolus Ex Machina

Diabolus Ex Machina

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13 minutes ago, baggytrousers said:

Totally agree.  Personally, I’m looking forward to this season more than any one in recent memory , not because I believe we’ll finish particularly high but more to see how this team can evolve now that we’ve got owners who are backing the manager and his vision.

interesting times ahead.

Seen this a few times from different people, is there a reason we think this focus on youth is part of Ralph's vision? I was under the assumption this was more of a Sports Republic led thing more related to their 'moneyball' approach and looking to sell young players for profit after a couple of seasons than anything Ralph particularly wanted. I'm sure the choice of players will be aimed at matching the style he wants to play but I don't see how any previous seasons transfers wouldn't have also been chosen with this in mind.

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18 minutes ago, Turkish said:

If Declan Rice is worth £130m then JWP with his dead balls must be worth £150m. Ronaldo will score loads of headers from his free kicks.

You may well be right about his value, especially to us. Fact is he must be central to Ralphball’s plans and losing him now would put a spike in the transfer strategy, especially with Smallbone going out on loan.  I don’t think we can afford to lose JWP now (and I can’t believe I’m saying this when I’ve doubted his ability in the past)…he has improved that much.

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2 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

I doubt it.

Dibling is a 16 year old 1st year scholar who'll probably be playing a mix of under 18s and under 21s football for the next two seasons and then go out in loan.

Hudson-Odoi is a fringe first team player.

Sure, i just meant in terms of business backscratching.

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Saint Keef

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1 hour ago, Turkish said:

If Declan Rice is worth £130m then JWP with his dead balls must be worth £150m. Ronaldo will score loads of headers from his free kicks.

Yeah, I don't disagree with you. We'll start the bidding at £150m. With all these youngsters coming in to our team as well, JWP is going to be needed anyway. I know every player has his price, but I would say JWP could be "priceless" for us this season. 

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Matthew Le God

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24 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

 

 

6 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

I'd take £10m and Levi Colwill. 

But this is nothing more than agent/media nonsense, there is no way Chelsea will be looking at players of his level.

It isn't agent or media nonsense. That would require an agent or the media to be involved.

The source is a random graphic designer Chelsea supporter from Poland on Twitter with 800 followers.

 

 

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23 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

 

I see the business model is working well but appreciate that it's frustrating for us fans to lose our best players.  It'll be a shame to lose Jan but I don't begrudge him his move and would like to wish him all the best.  This has tarnished an otherwise decent window for us.  Oh well.

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19 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

I'd take £10m and Levi Colwill. 

But this is nothing more than agent/media nonsense, there is no way Chelsea will be looking at players of his level.

The story is undoubtedly bollox, but however deficient Bednarek may be, I don't get the fascination with replacing him with Colwill. He's 19 years old with one season in the championship behind him. Utterly ridiculous to suggest swapping our senior CB with a kid. We need a decent experienced CB, with younger players around him. 

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Smirking_Saint

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27 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

 

It isn't agent or media nonsense. That would require an agent or the media to be involved.

The source is a random graphic designer Chelsea supporter from Poland on Twitter with 800 followers.

 

 

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I’m going to go out on a limb here and suggest it didn’t really require you delving through twitter to prove this is bullshit

There is no way Chelsea made any sort of decision to move from Kounde to fucking Bednarek 😂

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Suhari

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4 hours ago, Saint86 said:

Goes without saying that most people agree on the repeated experience point. We want players that are good enough and that will work well in the system - We appear to have been doing that.

A large issue with players like Vestergard (as you mention), is that he was signed by a previous regime and is a slow and not particularly physical player. We then appointed ralph who wants a high line with pace, power, and fitness from the defenders. That was a club decision to change our style of play, but it meant that Vestergard (and others) were suddenly being asked to play a style of football that didn't suit their own attributes. And similarly with that, fans have grumbled (rightly or wrongly) that Ralph makes odd tactical decisions or plays players out of position etc. 

Stability in the manager has the primary benefit that they are allowed to build and shape a team over many seasons - and buy the players they want to implement their style of football. OFC, that relies on both good recruitment and a solid manager. But if you look at the best teams (say Jose's chelsea, or SAF's united, Pep's city - granted extreme examples) they've either maintained a style/manager, or allowed the new manager to build the squad he wants. Against that, clubs that totally change style of manager (and don't recruit well to support a new manager/style) tend to struggle - take Tottenham going from Poch to nuno to Jose... A better example maybe palace last season - changed manager to Viera and combined it with a significant squad overall to suit his style of player. Or maybe Everton - absolute car crash of managerial/style changes and scattergun recruitment - all with no plan.

For us in this window - i don't think anyone can really argue that we have finally revamped the squad with the means and intention to back the manager's style. We haven't made compromises so far in terms of players signed, and we've done our business early rather than picking up scraps. The fan's are excited generally? And i guess that means we broadly believe that the manager is capable and that the recruitment is good - and that therefore this strategy is going to pay off with improvements in our competitiveness? But the debate for the first few months is going to be - have we actually done good business, and/or is this backing of the manager justified (that debate is for another thread!!) 😆

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34 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said:

I’m going to go out on a limb here and suggest it didn’t really require you delving through twitter to prove this is bullshit

There is no way Chelsea made any sort of decision to move from Kounde to fucking Bednarek 😂

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2 hours ago, Turkish said:

If Declan Rice is worth £130m then JWP with his dead balls must be worth £150m. Ronaldo will score loads of headers from his free kicks.

I am a bit out of touch, but how does the inability to father children increase a players value?

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Chez

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5 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

How many 16 or 17 years olds have Chelsea used in the 1st team in recent years? There is a big difference from the level to be in our first team vs Chelsea's.

Ethan Ampadu, Hudson Odoi and Lewis Hall for starters. 

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1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said:

It is a rumour from a random Chelsea supporting graphic designer from Poland. I think we can label it as bullshit.

If you only got nuance, sarcasm, the idea that nothing in the world is black or white but shades in between, this forum would be a better place

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6 hours ago, Saint86 said:

A large issue with players like Vestergard (as you mention), is that he was signed by a previous regime and is a slow and not particularly physical player.

Previous regime or not, we tried to replace arguably the league's fastest most physical CB with a player who quickly proved to be its slowest and weakest. That doesn't sound like a change in strategy, that just sounds like terrible, terrible scouting and recruitment.

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1 hour ago, Golac's Cunning Stunts said:

If you only got nuance, sarcasm, the idea that nothing in the world is black or white but shades in between, this forum would be a better place

Nuance and sarcasm are often difficult to detect when they lack context and are deliberately missing any indicators (like emojis) that would help identify them as such. And especially on a site like this that is full of insincere, clever Dick contributors keen to fool the unsuspecting.

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1 hour ago, Golac's Cunning Stunts said:

If you only got nuance, sarcasm, the idea that nothing in the world is black or white but shades in between, this forum would be a better place

But that would ruin everything. I like that MLG just does not get it. I read a post and think MLG wont get this scroll down and boom there it is 😂🥳

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3 hours ago, Chez said:

Ethan Ampadu, Hudson Odoi and Lewis Hall for starters. 

...and the fella Maatson, playing for Burnley tonight, is another 17 year old that played for the Chelsea first team.

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6 minutes ago, Chez said:

...and the fella Maatson, playing for Burnley tonight, is another 17 year old that played for the Chelsea first team.

That’s interesting to hear. So that takes me back to what I originally said about Tyler Dibling, that it’s not unreasonable to expect that he may not have to wait at least 3 years ( as MLG was saying) before he’s in and around the 1st team squad.

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2 minutes ago, Sarisbury Saint said:

That’s interesting to hear. So that takes me back to what I originally said about Tyler Dibling, that it’s not unreasonable to expect that he may not have to wait at least 3 years ( as MLG was saying) before he’s in and around the 1st team squad.

1 appearance in the League Cup 3 years ago and then multiple loans does not support your case.

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57 minutes ago, Chez said:

...and the fella Maatson, playing for Burnley tonight, is another 17 year old that played for the Chelsea first team.

Smart finish too. In the same game, Tino Anjorin on for Hudds and catching the eye with some direct running. Wouldn’t have thought ready for SFC level yet but clearly one for the future SFC hierarchy keeping an eye on.

Scott Twine not a bad sub to bring on - scored tonnes for MK last season and some spectacular ones as well.

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18 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said:

On a side note, does the forum have a Fantasy Football League this season?

Hopefully not. Not many things wind me up more than losing a game and some prat saying "well at least i've got (insert name of opposition goalscorer) in my fantasy team"

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48 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

1 appearance in the League Cup 3 years ago and then multiple loans does not support your case.

You asked "what 16 and 17 years olds have Chelsea played in the first team in recent years?"

I have named four...

...but you go ahead and try to reframe your argument if you like.

One of those, Hudson-Odoi, has played 72 times for Chelsea. Does he support Sarisbury Saint's case?

Dibling may well never make a first team appearance, but you don't know if that will happen or not, and until the future happens, you can't say they haven't signed him with the intention of playing first team football, sooner rater than later.

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32 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Hopefully not. Not many things wind me up more than losing a game and some prat saying "well at least i've got (insert name of opposition goalscorer) in my fantasy team"

Bracing myself for someone posting "a hat tick for Kane today and I made him triple captain!!" next Saturday.

Saying that I think we should have one just so anyone saying similar can be instantly banned. 

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1 hour ago, Turkish said:

Hopefully not. Not many things wind me up more than losing a game and some prat saying "well at least i've got (insert name of opposition goalscorer) in my fantasy team"

Oh yes, that's certainly annoying. I mean, if there were cash on the line then fair enough. I regularly bet against Saints to cushion the fall if we lose and it does work but I certainly couldn't extend that to a fantasy football league.

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