Saint86 Posted 21 July, 2022 Posted 21 July, 2022 (edited) 45 minutes ago, tajjuk said: whoscored has him as 'gets fouled often', 'commits fouls often' and the scout report in the other thread said he was mainly used as lone striker in a 4-5-1, so that involves a lot of playing with his back to goal, link up etc. so he'd have to have something about him physically to do that. Plus the scout report also mentions he is good defensively tracking back when needed and pressing from the front. The Toulon tournament video I thought showed him brushing off challenges pretty well, so overall I think he should be fine. Not expecting him to be some sort of target man but seems to have decent physical size and enough about him. Plus if he gets fouled a lot then more JWP free kick chances! Fair enough, useful summary to have! And agreed, more fouls = more 25yard penalties 😅 Edited 21 July, 2022 by Saint86 7
miserableoldgit Posted 21 July, 2022 Posted 21 July, 2022 3 hours ago, DT said: Apparently we respected the club and saved them from liquidation. Newcastle wanted to pick him up cheap after they’d folded. Wasn't our prospective owner Joseph Dagrosa involved with Bordeaux at some point? 2
Whitey Grandad Posted 21 July, 2022 Posted 21 July, 2022 I’m wondering who else Bordeaux have that we might be interested in now that we’ve done them a favour.
david in sweden Posted 21 July, 2022 Posted 21 July, 2022 38 minutes ago, Midlandsaint said: Do you think we should only sign players you’ve heard of? Forget that. It will never happen. If we managed to sign Kevin Keegan without anyone knowing about it, most of our signing could walk though the Bargate unnoticed. 1
david in sweden Posted 21 July, 2022 Posted 21 July, 2022 18 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said: I’m wondering who else Bordeaux have that we might be interested in now that we’ve done them a favour. ..........and who we have who might be interested in a move back to their homeland ? 1
Doctoroncall Posted 21 July, 2022 Posted 21 July, 2022 It looks like we are trying to be one of the youngest squads in the Premier League! Shame there are no points for it.
manji Posted 21 July, 2022 Posted 21 July, 2022 He’s going to be the Delap replacement. Convinced we are going to get a more experienced striker. 1
Convict Colony Posted 21 July, 2022 Posted 21 July, 2022 1 minute ago, manji said: He’s going to be the Delap replacement. Convinced we are going to get a more experienced striker. Arthur Scargil is awaiting our call 13
Charlie Wayman Posted 21 July, 2022 Posted 21 July, 2022 3 hours ago, S-Clarke said: Never heard of him, but this is exactly what we do. I hadn't really heard of Bella-Kotchap either, neither Broja when we got him. At the end of the day once upon a time Haaland was unknown, so I don't have a problem with it as long as he has the attributes we need. If he does it won't be long until he is known! Who had heard of Ralph Hasenhüttl until he arrived and look what a super star he has turned out to be. 2 1
AlexLaw76 Posted 21 July, 2022 Posted 21 July, 2022 Just now, Charlie Wayman said: Who had heard of Ralph Hasenhüttl until he arrived and look what a super star he has turned out to be. Everything you have just said here, is wrong! 2
Charlie Wayman Posted 21 July, 2022 Posted 21 July, 2022 20 minutes ago, Convict Colony said: Arthur Scargil is awaiting our call He's going to Newcastle. 1 2
Charlie Wayman Posted 21 July, 2022 Posted 21 July, 2022 23 minutes ago, manji said: He’s going to be the Delap replacement. Convinced we are going to get a more experienced striker. How can he replace a player that we don't own and who has been linked only speculatively 🤨 1
S-Clarke Posted 21 July, 2022 Posted 21 July, 2022 7 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said: Who had heard of Ralph Hasenhüttl until he arrived and look what a super star he has turned out to be. Most of Europe tbh. 4
goodymatt Posted 21 July, 2022 Posted 21 July, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: #ColwillWatch So the questions that come to mind are: 1. Are we going sign another CB? 2. If so, having had various links to this guy and Colwill, who was truly our first choice? Have Palace beaten us to this guy or has Colwill turned them down? Edited 21 July, 2022 by goodymatt Typo
Le Timmier Posted 21 July, 2022 Posted 21 July, 2022 15 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said: Who had heard of Ralph Hasenhüttl until he arrived and look what a super star he has turned out to be. Ralph Hasenhuttl managed a side that finished 2nd in the Bundesliga. Anyone with even a passing interest in that competition had most likely heard of him 3
trousers Posted 21 July, 2022 Posted 21 July, 2022 1 hour ago, miserableoldgit said: Wasn't our prospective owner Joseph Dagrosa involved with Bordeaux at some point? Yep.... bullet dodged it would seem....? https://www.sportspromedia.com/news/bordeaux-king-street-administration/ 1
davefizzy14 Posted 21 July, 2022 Posted 21 July, 2022 52 minutes ago, manji said: He’s going to be the Delap replacement. Convinced we are going to get a more experienced striker. Thats what I reckon also. Who do you think the more experienced striker could be Manji?
alehouseboys Posted 21 July, 2022 Posted 21 July, 2022 1 hour ago, Doctoroncall said: It looks like we are trying to be one of the youngest squads in the Premier League! Shame there are no points for it. As someone once said (skip to 15 secs!) ...and the rest is history... 1
Forester Posted 21 July, 2022 Posted 21 July, 2022 Assuming this one gets over the line I am greedy and still want one more striker and another centre back, with a loan option for full back until Tino is fit. Very soon we are going to need to start selling some players quickly too! 1
qwertyell Posted 21 July, 2022 Posted 21 July, 2022 58 minutes ago, Forester said: Assuming this one gets over the line I am greedy and still want one more striker and another centre back, with a loan option for full back until Tino is fit. Number 10/winger options remain dire. No point stocking up on strikers if we can't create. 1
Saint Garrett Posted 21 July, 2022 Posted 21 July, 2022 2 minutes ago, igsey said: Sounds like Ben Mee is going to Brentford. No loss that IMO. Wouldn’t fit the way we play.
Daft Kerplunk Posted 21 July, 2022 Posted 21 July, 2022 3 hours ago, Convict Colony said: Arthur Scargil is awaiting our call Andy Cole? 1
The Kraken Posted 21 July, 2022 Posted 21 July, 2022 11 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said: No loss that IMO. Wouldn’t fit the way we play. What way is that? Conceding lots of goals? 😉 I wouldn’t mind someone like Mee. Out of contract, and if Brentford are in for him I can’t see that his wages would be prohibitive. Going against him though is his age, he’s 33 in September.
tajjuk Posted 21 July, 2022 Posted 21 July, 2022 We must be approaching what £60 million ish spend with literally no sales.
david in sweden Posted 21 July, 2022 Posted 21 July, 2022 2 hours ago, alehouseboys said: As someone once said (skip to 15 secs!) ...and the rest is history... Yes of course.....and wasn't Alex Ferguson lucky to get all those youngsters out of the MU Academy all at one time and win all those Cups and titles....
Bad Wolf Posted 21 July, 2022 Posted 21 July, 2022 6 minutes ago, tajjuk said: We must be approaching what £60 million ish spend with literally no sales. But the board are tight, we have no ambition, we have to sell to buy and my personal favourite...We can't afford to sack Ralph 1 1
tajjuk Posted 21 July, 2022 Posted 21 July, 2022 1 minute ago, The Kraken said: Conceding lots of goals? 😉 I It must be hard for the club to identify how to improve our defence considering it was so up and down last year, early-mid part of the season we were defensively solid, we just seem to have an ability to concede lots of goals in single games. 8 clean sheets is not terrible, and then we conceded only 1 in 7 other games, but then shipped 6 v Chelsea, 4 against Leicester, Liverpool, Villa, 3 against Brentford, Wolves, Arsenal, Chelsea and Everton. Which is 33 goals in just 9 games. Man City only scored once against us in 2 games and Man Utd only managed 2 goals in 2 games, we also managed clean sheets against Arsenal and West Ham, but somehow ship 3 to Brentford and 4 to Villa.
ally_uk Posted 21 July, 2022 Posted 21 July, 2022 Call me a cynic but at the back of my mind I think we might be selling Prowse or someone to offset costs.... How can we bring in another experienced striker without selling first? Unless new owners are going for it big time #noholdsbarred 1
badgerx16 Posted 21 July, 2022 Posted 21 July, 2022 8 hours ago, northam soul said: Having quickly scoured YouTube he seems to have a bit about him. Gets fouled a lot........ So he's the ShLong replacement ?
The Left Back Posted 21 July, 2022 Posted 21 July, 2022 9 minutes ago, ally_uk said: Call me a cynic but at the back of my mind I think we might be selling Prowse or someone to offset costs.... How can we bring in another experienced striker without selling first? Unless new owners are going for it big time #noholdsbarred I wouldn't call you a cynic as it's a reasonable fear based on our club and it's history. Call me an optimist but I think the strategy should be taken at the new owners word, i.e. the pathway. We sign these young players, play them, develop them and then sell them for a profit. This strategy requires us to stay in the EPL, in which case we will need to keep JWP. If the strategy works the money for this summer's investments will be be repaid with interest next summer, and so on. 2
Dusic Posted 21 July, 2022 Posted 21 July, 2022 Looks like Mara is a genuine striker so IMO we need another striker plus a Ralph #10 and thats attack done. Then after that full back cover and if we sell any CBs then a new option there (Colwill perhaps). Is that a bit unrealistic to expect given no obvious ways to generate any cash besides selling JWP or KWP? If we didnt get all of those, which are the most critical? Probably striker and full back cover, although we are crying out for a better #10 than what we have - unless Aribo is considered to be that?
Lighthouse Posted 21 July, 2022 Posted 21 July, 2022 20 minutes ago, ally_uk said: Call me a cynic but at the back of my mind I think we might be selling Prowse or someone to offset costs.... How can we bring in another experienced striker without selling first? Unless new owners are going for it big time #noholdsbarred Because most of the players we’re bringing in are seen as investments and we’re hoping to double, triple or quadruple our input into some of them over the next two or three years.
tajjuk Posted 21 July, 2022 Posted 21 July, 2022 6 minutes ago, Dusic said: unless Aribo is considered to be that? I think he is, they seem to be saying his best position is attacking-mid or playing off the right onto his left foot. But yes I'd still like another no.10, you'd think we would have to start shifting some squad players to afford more signings though, unless SR have given us a bigger kitty to just go spend £70-80 million without selling. Another striker, a new no.10 and a back up right back would be what 9 incomings and at similar price values pushing £80 million plus spend (presuming the right back is a loan for cover).
FarehamSaintJames Posted 21 July, 2022 Posted 21 July, 2022 (edited) Still need, a FB, another CB, another ST, a winger and potentially a CM. And still need to shift on Long, Walcott, Bednarek, Djenepo. There’s a few others you could shift into the “possibly” list including Valery, McCarthy, Vokins etc. Edited 21 July, 2022 by FarehamSaintJames
Saint NL Posted 21 July, 2022 Posted 21 July, 2022 https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2022/lyons-alexandre-lacazette-sidelined-due-to-wasp-stings/ Lacazette and Dembele injured in wasp stinging incident.
Suhari Posted 21 July, 2022 Posted 21 July, 2022 10 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said: Still need, a FB, another CB, another ST, a winger and potentially a CM. And still need to shift on Long, Walcott, Bednarek, Djenepo. There’s a few others you could shift into the “possibly” list including Valery, McCarthy, Vokins etc. Am I Reading this correctly?! 😄🍺 5
gammon cheeks Posted 21 July, 2022 Posted 21 July, 2022 Striker/no 10 , full back cover and maybe CB if someone leaves ..Going to have a very young team if they all play ...hope it all works out ...time will tell i suppose .
S-Clarke Posted 21 July, 2022 Posted 21 July, 2022 34 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said: Still need, a FB, another CB, another ST, a winger and potentially a CM. And still need to shift on Long, Walcott, Bednarek, Djenepo. There’s a few others you could shift into the “possibly” list including Valery, McCarthy, Vokins etc. Well, we're not going to sign all of those so don't expect that! I can see 3 more players. This striker from france, another attacker and a full back. Collwill is going to be dependant on one of our CB's going.
S-Clarke Posted 21 July, 2022 Posted 21 July, 2022 Nottingham Forest will be paying Jesse Lingard £200k per week. Absolute insanity. They've got to be desperate to pay that for him. In my opinion the clubs scouting has failed miserably if that is the target they have to go for. 1
FarehamSaintJames Posted 21 July, 2022 Posted 21 July, 2022 17 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Well, we're not going to sign all of those so don't expect that! I can see 3 more players. This striker from france, another attacker and a full back. Collwill is going to be dependant on one of our CB's going. Not sure why I left Shane Long in there, force of habit the past couple of years 😅 Yeah, I think I agree with the above, realistically. Bednarek I think will go allowing for Colwill, but I’m sure he’d want assurances on playing time, especially having signed ABK and already having Salisu. Full back will definitely be a loan, hopefully not Brandon Williams from United, has a bit of an attitude problem from what I’ve read. Too much money, too soon, thinks he’s better than he is etc. 😅 The attacking player/winger will be exciting when/if they turn up.
davefizzy14 Posted 21 July, 2022 Posted 21 July, 2022 Saint Garrett said there are two medicals booked for this week. One is Mara and I wonder who the other one is for? 1
Wade Garrett Posted 21 July, 2022 Posted 21 July, 2022 37 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Nottingham Forest will be paying Jesse Lingard £200k per week. Absolute insanity. They've got to be desperate to pay that for him. In my opinion the clubs scouting has failed miserably if that is the target they have to go for. He’s a quality player. Was brilliant on his West Ham loan. Big risk, but fair play to them. 1
Saint Garrett Posted 21 July, 2022 Posted 21 July, 2022 We definitely need a full back on loan, or cheap that’ll be happy sat on the bench for most of the season. Wouldn’t surprise me if someone Tinos age came in, with the plan to develop them over the next few years alongside KWP, Tino and Perraud. KWP will be sold for decent money at some point I’m sure. He is class. Been told Bednarek is staying now too, which maybe why the rumours seem to have disappeared. If Bednarek stays, that says to me there is a good chance that we will play 3 atb, and Stephens will leave. Can’t see Lyanco leaving,
Saint Garrett Posted 21 July, 2022 Posted 21 July, 2022 1 minute ago, Wade Garrett said: He’s a quality player. Was brilliant on his West Ham loan. Big risk, but fair play to them. If you have the money then fair play, but it’s a huge outlay for someone with no future value, ca £11m plus signing on fee.
Grim Reaper Posted 21 July, 2022 Posted 21 July, 2022 6 minutes ago, davefizzy14 said: Saint Garrett said there are two medicals booked for this week. One is Mara and I wonder who the other one is for? Dembele is coming over to have some calamine lotion applied to his wasp stings 😄
The Kraken Posted 21 July, 2022 Posted 21 July, 2022 2 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said: If you have the money then fair play, but it’s a huge outlay for someone with no future value, ca £11m plus signing on fee. Is that true? Just reading it’s only a one year deal he’s going to be on, so it would be a massive outlay for someone they’ll lose next summer.
stknowle Posted 21 July, 2022 Posted 21 July, 2022 3 hours ago, The Kraken said: What way is that? Conceding lots of goals? 😉 I wouldn’t mind someone like Mee. Out of contract, and if Brentford are in for him I can’t see that his wages would be prohibitive. Going against him though is his age, he’s 33 in September. Agreed. Not that I'm comparing them in terms of quality, but that Silva fella is still doing alright for Chelsea at 37 (38 in a few weeks). Whilst I like the principle of buying all these youngsters with (hopefully) huge sell on potential, surely the odd relatively low cost experienced head would be a sensible policy. 2
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