ally_uk Posted 20 July, 2022 Share Posted 20 July, 2022 Agreed if we can get Ings for a good deal makes sense proven goal scorer. 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 20 July, 2022 Share Posted 20 July, 2022 2 hours ago, Convict Colony said: Needs to sort his hair out but in all fairness has a decent rep here. https://breakingthelines.com/player-analysis/jesper-karlsson-will-this-az-alkmaar-product-buck-recent-trends/ When games are tight, Karlsson can often make the difference, whether it’s a typically-powerful shot from distance, or using his excellent close control to work some space for a cross. I have no doubt that Karlsson will go on to move to a bigger club than AZ in future, but what will hopefully set Karlsson apart the 23-year-old from other Eredivisie exports is his drive to improve in the way he has done for AZ already.” Real name Karl Karlsson... 😜 Good stats though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 20 July, 2022 Share Posted 20 July, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, egg said: I'm not sure why do many people are so excited by his possible signing. Sure, he looks a talented lad, but he's a reserve player who can't make the England u19 team ahead of other kids who don't play first team football either. Compare that to Broja who was playing regular top flight football in Belgium, and for his country. If we signed a first team striker as starter and Delap in a permanent to develop I'd see the point, but if it were just him and/or we got him on loan I don't see the point. Sadly this is a symptom of modern football more than anything else - as we're all seeing... The top clubs hoover up the best youngester, then play them in their academy / u23 sides or loan them out. More and more, these players are at clubs where their competing with your Kanes/Ronaldos/Lukakus/Salah's etc and they can't get game time. So whilst its reasonable to say Delap is unproven, you also can't right him off. Equally, if he was playing in a top 6 first team at 19 - we wouldn't be able to afford him! Also, before MLG gets in there(🤪), Broja played for Vitesse in the Eredivise, not the Jupiler Pro league - funnily enough alongside Openda, who did go back to belgium this summer (after a 2 year loan) before forcing a very reasonable move to RC Lens at a price we should probably have been all over (IMHO) 😙 Edited 20 July, 2022 by Saint86 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpin4rizeal Posted 20 July, 2022 Share Posted 20 July, 2022 49 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Good snippet, thank you. I can't find any articles linking him anywhere that suggests the sort of fee we'd need to pay, but at a guess he'd probably be in and around the 10-15m bracket. He looks sick on this you tube vid loves a Rabona cross and has a thunderbolt shot on him.. very impressive clip 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 20 July, 2022 Share Posted 20 July, 2022 5 minutes ago, pimpin4rizeal said: He looks sick on this you tube vid loves a Rabona cross and has a thunderbolt shot on him.. very impressive clip Guess he must be good if he can do all that whilst feeling poorly. Imagine how good he is when he's feel well. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 20 July, 2022 Share Posted 20 July, 2022 Love some good jokes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 20 July, 2022 Share Posted 20 July, 2022 There's no way that a 23 year old with those numbers and several years on his contract is leaving the Dutch league for 12m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 20 July, 2022 Share Posted 20 July, 2022 One of the guys I know who has links to the club did mention a Swedish player a while ago but it was suggested he was more a younger player in the Broja mould (I took that to mean it would be a loan from a big club rather than relating to them being a similar type of player) I hope it is Karlsson though as who doesn't love a scissor kick or some long rangers banged in the top corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 20 July, 2022 Share Posted 20 July, 2022 1 hour ago, ally_uk said: Agreed if we can get Ings for a good deal makes sense proven goal scorer. 👍 1 hour ago, Saint86 said: Why wouldn't anyone want Ings at the right price? If Fred Smith who had no prior connection to Saints was 30 and scored 7 goals last season, would you be clamouring to offer him a £100k+ contract? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 20 July, 2022 Share Posted 20 July, 2022 If it means staying in the Premier league then yes..... Who else currently has 7 goals in them? 🤣🤣🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 20 July, 2022 Share Posted 20 July, 2022 6 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: If Fred Smith who had no prior connection to Saints was 30 and scored 7 goals last season, would you be clamouring to offer him a £100k+ contract? Did Fred score 34 goals in 67 games prior to that season for a pretty poor Prem side? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 20 July, 2022 Share Posted 20 July, 2022 6 minutes ago, ally_uk said: If it means staying in the Premier league then yes..... Who else currently has 7 goals in them? 🤣🤣🤣 Ask the scouts, and if they don’t have an answer then sack them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 20 July, 2022 Share Posted 20 July, 2022 20 minutes ago, The Cat said: One of the guys I know who has links to the club did mention a Swedish player a while ago but it was suggested he was more a younger player in the Broja mould (I took that to mean it would be a loan from a big club rather than relating to them being a similar type of player) I hope it is Karlsson though as who doesn't love a scissor kick or some long rangers banged in the top corner. I remember you mentioning that one, I think a lot of us took it as meaning Elanga from Utd. But to be fair Karlson is still classed as one of the new crop of 'young players' for Sweden, so who knows! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 20 July, 2022 Share Posted 20 July, 2022 1 hour ago, pimpin4rizeal said: He looks sick on this you tube vid loves a Rabona cross and has a thunderbolt shot on him.. very impressive clip Some lovely volleys in there and one or two tremendously hit balls as well. Kind of like the Armstrong video, but maybe a little more quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 20 July, 2022 Share Posted 20 July, 2022 I like the sound of this Fred Smith fella. Can we get him in cheap? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 20 July, 2022 Share Posted 20 July, 2022 4 hours ago, Streaky said: Jesper Karlsson #ITK_Watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 20 July, 2022 Share Posted 20 July, 2022 2 hours ago, S-Clarke said: It is no exaggeration to suggest that he is probably the closest clone to Neymar during his time at Santos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 20 July, 2022 Share Posted 20 July, 2022 Just now, SuperSAINT said: I did find that bit a little funny, they're certainly not exaggerating...but... but he's like Neymar 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jemanson Posted 20 July, 2022 Share Posted 20 July, 2022 13 minutes ago, OttawaSaint said: I like the sound of this Fred Smith fella. Can we get him in cheap? Back in the day, we were regularly linked with Fred Bloggs, but he was only ever an average guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 20 July, 2022 Share Posted 20 July, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 20 July, 2022 Share Posted 20 July, 2022 2 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Jealous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 20 July, 2022 Share Posted 20 July, 2022 1 minute ago, SuperSAINT said: Not sure if it's just me, but I'm not getting the fuss over Dennis. He had a 6 month purple patch at the start of the season, and then went missing after all the chatter about AFCON. I don't think he's worth the 20-25m they're asking for. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Reece Posted 20 July, 2022 Share Posted 20 July, 2022 Probably going to be completely wrong, but I feel like Forest this season may be like Fulham a couple years ago where they have had to replace a few too many loan players from their promotion season and may struggle having all their signings gel - may be on my own with that thinking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 20 July, 2022 Share Posted 20 July, 2022 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Chez said: Some lovely volleys in there and one or two tremendously hit balls as well. Kind of like the Armstrong video, but maybe a little more quality. Video reminded me of the Elyounoussi Basel ones before we signed him. The Eredivisie is so hard to judge players - Jahanbakhsh absolutely bossed it and was a total non event in the PL. Karlsson clearly has a good shot but looks pretty slight and also not rapid so would have to be superb technically to make an impact in the PL. Edited 20 July, 2022 by Dusic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 20 July, 2022 Share Posted 20 July, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Saint-Reece said: Probably going to be completely wrong, but I feel like Forest this season may be like Fulham a couple years ago where they have had to replace a few too many loan players from their promotion season and may struggle having all their signings gel - may be on my own with that thinking! It's a curious approach, it'll be interesting to see how it goes. They're not the only team who have tried building an entirely new team and have struggled, I remember Spurs when they reinvested all that Bale money. Our effort in 2014 was more of an anomaly in the main. They're having a go though, the least they can do really as they are so short on quality without those loan players. Edited 20 July, 2022 by S-Clarke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 20 July, 2022 Share Posted 20 July, 2022 7 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Not sure if it's just me, but I'm not getting the fuss over Dennis. He had a 6 month purple patch at the start of the season, and then went missing after all the chatter about AFCON. I don't think he's worth the 20-25m they're asking for. Rumours of attitude issue - issues in Belgium about not sitting in his normal coach seat due to COVID protocols, police stop gesture and seemingly issues on loan in Germany. Nothing specific from Watford, had a great start but certainly some finger pointing from senior players that some of the squad were only really at full work rate for 70 minutes. Could do well but could be another Wesley Hoedt as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 20 July, 2022 Share Posted 20 July, 2022 19 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Not sure if it's just me, but I'm not getting the fuss over Dennis. He had a 6 month purple patch at the start of the season, and then went missing after all the chatter about AFCON. I don't think he's worth the 20-25m they're asking for. You could replace this with…. Not sure if it's just me, but I'm not getting the fuss over Broja. He had a purple patch at the start of the season, and then went missing after February. I don't think he's worth the 20-25m they're asking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 20 July, 2022 Share Posted 20 July, 2022 4 minutes ago, The Kraken said: You could replace this with…. Not sure if it's just me, but I'm not getting the fuss over Broja. He had a purple patch at the start of the season, and then went missing after February. I don't think he's worth the 20-25m they're asking for. Yeah, fair point! I wouldn't pay £25m for Broja either tbh. I rate him as I've seen more of him, but still not enough to pay that much. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 20 July, 2022 Share Posted 20 July, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, The Kraken said: You could replace this with…. Not sure if it's just me, but I'm not getting the fuss over Broja. He had a purple patch at the start of the season, and then went missing after February. I don't think he's worth the 20-25m they're asking for. Agree. Most fans (I believe) think the Beattie was a decent player for us. He was very much a streaky player though. I'd welcome Beattie right now. Edited 20 July, 2022 by MarkSFC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 20 July, 2022 Share Posted 20 July, 2022 1 minute ago, MarkSFC said: I'd welcome Beattie right now. I wouldn't. He is 44 years old and retired from playing 9 years ago! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 20 July, 2022 Share Posted 20 July, 2022 10 minutes ago, The Kraken said: You could replace this with…. Not sure if it's just me, but I'm not getting the fuss over Broja. He had a purple patch at the start of the season, and then went missing after February. I don't think he's worth the 20-25m they're asking for. Broja is only 20 though. So much more potential Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo1976 Posted 20 July, 2022 Share Posted 20 July, 2022 26 minutes ago, Dusic said: Video reminded me of the Elyounoussi Basel ones before we signed him. The Eredivisie is so hard to judge players - Jahanbakhsh absolutely bossed it and was a total non event in the PL. Karlsson clearly has a good shot but looks pretty slight and also not rapid so would have to be superb technically to make an impact in the PL. We have A. Armstrong................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 20 July, 2022 Share Posted 20 July, 2022 23 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: If Fred Smith who had no prior connection to Saints was 30 and scored 7 goals last season, would you be clamouring to offer him a £100k+ contract? Depends... did Fred have a 22 goal PL season a few years back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 20 July, 2022 Share Posted 20 July, 2022 4 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: I wouldn't. He is 44 years old and retired from playing 9 years ago! If you must use gifs, at least use a really good one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 20 July, 2022 Share Posted 20 July, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Ex Lion Tamer said: Broja is only 20 though. So much more potential Yeah, I know. I’d love Saints to lash out on Broja, I think he’s class. But… a) I don’t think the club would pay the approx £25-£30m he would command b) from a financial perspective, and only if the recruitment is right, there is potentially much better short term value out there with an ‘unknown’. edit, and c) I don’t reckon he’d come here anyway Edited 20 July, 2022 by The Kraken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 20 July, 2022 Share Posted 20 July, 2022 Re: Dennis/Watford. Not seen Sarr linked with too many clubs over here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 20 July, 2022 Share Posted 20 July, 2022 Would imagine he’s out of our financial orbit, but Noni Madueke was mentioned in the John Percy / Telegraph Leicester article (along with Colwill) as targets they want to sign (but have to clear players out first). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 20 July, 2022 Share Posted 20 July, 2022 2 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Re: Dennis/Watford. Not seen Sarr linked with too many clubs over here. Decent player, but clubs may be baulking at the fee (I've seen £40m+ mentioned) and his injury record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 20 July, 2022 Share Posted 20 July, 2022 Yeah they apparently want the same as they paid roughly for Sarr (£30-£32m) and he's not proved anywhere near worth that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 20 July, 2022 Share Posted 20 July, 2022 Here’s a fantasy type poser, Cornet or Karlsson? Cornet probably slightly more expensive and definitely more in wages but offers more in versatility and can definitely score goals in the premier league. Karlsson cheaper and more of a risk but being very right footed means he would fit into that left number 10 role better than Cornet. Personally I’d edge towards Cornet but I think the club would see Karlsson as fitting into the system better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 20 July, 2022 Share Posted 20 July, 2022 45 minutes ago, Golac's Cunning Stunts said: Depends... did Fred have a 22 goal PL season a few years back? If we’re including goals from a few years back in the table we don’t need a striker at all. Walcott scored 21 for Arsenal, that’s pretty much the same without spending a penny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 20 July, 2022 Share Posted 20 July, 2022 Damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 20 July, 2022 Share Posted 20 July, 2022 27 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: If we’re including goals from a few years back in the table we don’t need a striker at all. Walcott scored 21 for Arsenal, that’s pretty much the same without spending a penny. now you're just being silly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 20 July, 2022 Share Posted 20 July, 2022 36 minutes ago, revolution saint said: Here’s a fantasy type poser, Cornet or Karlsson? Cornet probably slightly more expensive and definitely more in wages but offers more in versatility and can definitely score goals in the premier league. Karlsson cheaper and more of a risk but being very right footed means he would fit into that left number 10 role better than Cornet. Personally I’d edge towards Cornet but I think the club would see Karlsson as fitting into the system better. Karlsson got more league goals and assists from the same position as Sinisterra (also same age) who just went to Leeds for 25m. He's not going to be a cheap option no matter what Transfermarkt says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 20 July, 2022 Share Posted 20 July, 2022 2 minutes ago, verlaine1979 said: Karlsson got more league goals and assists from the same position as Sinisterra (also same age) who just went to Leeds for 25m. He's not going to be a cheap option no matter what Transfermarkt says. Ah, ok. To be honest I hadn’t heard of him till tonight. He seems alright but big gamble for that price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 20 July, 2022 Share Posted 20 July, 2022 10 minutes ago, Golac's Cunning Stunts said: now you're just being silly Why? There were many people talking how good he once was at Arsenal when we first signed him two years ago and how ‘coming home’ might see him back to his best from a few years ago. Why is a season Ings had three years ago relevant but Walcott’s past glories aren’t? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 20 July, 2022 Share Posted 20 July, 2022 5 minutes ago, MarkSFC said: You fucking twat. Sometimes you just have to applaud a post so direct and to the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 20 July, 2022 Share Posted 20 July, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, pimpin4rizeal said: He looks sick on this you tube vid loves a Rabona cross and has a thunderbolt shot on him.. very impressive clip Are we actually linked with him? Reckon that's one of the best youtube clips i've seen posted on a saints transfer thread... He's got some serious skill/ability with a football. Edited 20 July, 2022 by Saint86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 21 July, 2022 Share Posted 21 July, 2022 (edited) He reminds me of Boufal with an end product. Edited 21 July, 2022 by stevy777_x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 21 July, 2022 Share Posted 21 July, 2022 3 hours ago, S-Clarke said: Yeah, fair point! I wouldn't pay £25m for Broja either tbh. I rate him as I've seen more of him, but still not enough to pay that much. He has pace power and skill, everything you look for in a modern day striker and he s only 20, easily worth that money 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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