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3 hours ago, CB Fry said:

The Chesney Hawkes song potential is massive with this one.

Taiwo Awoniyi, young hungry, improve is guarentee

Taiwo Awoniyi i really f***ing hate Pompey

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4 hours ago, TWar said:

Yeah seems unlikely Newcastle will be in for another forward in that price bracket. They have Wilson and Wood, the next striker they buy I imagine will be a big spend on a £50m statement signing.

It will be Andrea Belotti on a free transfer.

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Lighthouse

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26 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said:

I know Saints fans joke about Bale, but it would be a great move for him and us if money wasn't really an object. His focus is on the world cup so he just needs to be training and playing.  He's been linked with a move to Cardiff from the little I've read. 

What would be great about it? He is frequently unfit and his commitment is questionable at best. The fact that he is actually linked to bottom half Championship Cardiff is probably a fairly good indicator.

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7 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

What would be great about it? He is frequently unfit and his commitment is questionable at best. The fact that he is actually linked to bottom half Championship Cardiff is probably a fairly good indicator.

Base pay with a decent pay as you play on top would be the only way to go. I suppose him and Theo can keep each other company on the bench/physio room.

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3 minutes ago, skintsaint said:

Base pay with a decent pay as you play on top would be the only way to go. I suppose him and Theo can keep each other company on the bench/physio room.

I don’t understand why anyone would want him on any sort of deal at all, other than pointless nostalgia. We’ve already had Theo ‘come home’ after no one else wanted him, look how that’s going.

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It's There

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If the deal were right for the club- I'd take him. His quality is still there and it could be a great addition. Compare a natural gaolscorer like Bale to a few of our team...

However, I doubt the experienced mentioned was thinking of Bale- unless Supersaint knows something I don't.

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1 hour ago, Lighthouse said:

I don’t understand why anyone would want him on any sort of deal at all, other than pointless nostalgia. We’ve already had Theo ‘come home’ after no one else wanted him, look how that’s going.

He has always been significantly better than Walcott and would be an upgrade on our starting XI.

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1 hour ago, Lighthouse said:

What would be great about it? He is frequently unfit and his commitment is questionable at best. The fact that he is actually linked to bottom half Championship Cardiff is probably a fairly good indicator.

His link to Cardiff has nothing to do with his current ability. It is due to his Welsh heritage. 

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1 hour ago, Lighthouse said:

I don’t understand why anyone would want him on any sort of deal at all, other than pointless nostalgia. We’ve already had Theo ‘come home’ after no one else wanted him, look how that’s going.

but he has only been injured for 28 Madrid games this season so far. Would love him here as I said just to keep Theo company.

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45 minutes ago, It's There said:

Compare a natural gaolscorer like Bale to a few of our team.

That natural goal scorer has 1 league goal, against Levante. If we’re comparing him with anyone right now it’s Shane Long.

4 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

He has always been significantly better than Walcott and would be an upgrade on our starting XI.

Those are the key words here. If you can arrange to sign 2013 Bale, rather than 33 year old, injured, golf playing Bale then great.

3 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

His link to Cardiff has nothing to do with his current ability. It is due to his Welsh heritage. 

I’m aware of that but he isn’t any more Welsh as he gets older. He’s linked to Cardiff now because that’s a reasonable barometer of what he might contribute over the next couple of years.

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The guy basically wants to play golf and turn up for the odd game for Wales, which if they don't qualify for the World Cup even that effort will go and by 2023 will become go anyway once they are inevitably knocked out early, so at best IF Wales make the World Cup you might get a decent 3 months out of him, after that he'll be a giant waste of space.

He clearly hasn't been interested in being a professional footballer for a good few years, phoning it in a lot and getting every niggle under the sun. 

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7 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

That natural goal scorer has 1 league goal, against Levante. If we’re comparing him with anyone right now it’s Shane Long.

Those are the key words here. If you can arrange to sign 2013 Bale, rather than 33 year old, injured, golf playing Bale then great.

I’m aware of that but he isn’t any more Welsh as he gets older. He’s linked to Cardiff now because that’s a reasonable barometer of what he might contribute over the next couple of years.

Bale scored 11 goals in 20 Premier League games as recently as last season, which is clearly a decent return. I don't recall Shane Long managing that last season.

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4 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Bale scored 11 goals in 20 Premier League games as recently as last season, which is clearly a decent return. I don't recall Shane Long managing that last season.

Worth pointing out also that in 10 of those games he was a substitute. Really quite impressive. In all competitions, 16 goals from 19 starts and 15 sub appearances.

Bale is still quality, we would never get him but idea that he wouldn’t improve our team/squad is preposterous. 

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I can understand fans apprehension of signing Bale (not just us, but all clubs). He'd cost a fortune and his commitment to club football has been questionable over recent years.

But...on quality alone, he is still automatically better than any individual we have in our squad. So on the basis of the financial deal being right then of course we'd have him, but it won't happen as he'd cost too much.

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32 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

Worth pointing out also that in 10 of those games he was a substitute. Really quite impressive. In all competitions, 16 goals from 19 starts and 15 sub appearances.

Bale is still quality, we would never get him but idea that he wouldn’t improve our team/squad is preposterous. 

Nail on the head.  

  

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1 minute ago, Chez said:

I wonder how much he'd want paying? He ain't getting another £600k a week contract, that's for sure...

He might settle half way...! 

I think Spurs paid something like 40% of his wage with Real paying the 60% when they had him, so even that is out of our realm.

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1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said:

Bale scored 11 goals in 20 Premier League games as recently as last season, which is clearly a decent return. I don't recall Shane Long managing that last season.

That was last season. This season he has one goal for Madrid, the same as Long.

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1 hour ago, The Kraken said:

Worth pointing out also that in 10 of those games he was a substitute. Really quite impressive. In all competitions, 16 goals from 19 starts and 15 sub appearances.

Bale is still quality, we would never get him but idea that he wouldn’t improve our team/squad is preposterous. 

Wouldn’t he want to take all the free kicks near the penalty area , so just nicking JWP’s goals ?

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2 minutes ago, East Kent Saint said:

Wouldn’t he want to take all the free kicks near the penalty area , so just nicking JWP’s goals ?

Perfect tandem. Bale takes them from the right hand side, JWP from the left, toss a coin for the ones in the middle.

I couldn’t care less who scores as long as it goes in.

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I think it is more to do with his relationship with the Real Madrid management and fans than his fitness or footballing ability. He was quality in the Austria WC qualifying game.  As MLG said his recent Premier League record is not too shabby to say the least. 

I don't know if he would accept a pay if play type contract.

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13 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

He has been injured. It isn’t his ability that is the reason for only one goal this season.

I'm aware of that but there are no prizes handed out for goals players would have scored if they'd been fit. In the last three seasons he's score 2, 11 and 1 goals in the League. Barely 5 per season on average, we can get that from Che Adams. Bale is going to be 33 in summer, he's not going to suddenly find another gear.

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Saints would be blown out of the water by many of the other midtable teams like Villa/Everton/WHU should Bale ever become available.

I'd love to take him too but let's be real it just isn't happening, I think he still has some quality to make a difference but yeah at the wages we'd offer there would be many other clubs sniffing around and even offering a greater sign-on fee probably.

In addition, we were 19th on the list of 20 clubs for agent fees, I can imagine that being incredibly high. 

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6 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

What would be great about it? He is frequently unfit and his commitment is questionable at best. The fact that he is actually linked to bottom half Championship Cardiff is probably a fairly good 

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3 hours ago, nta786 said:

Saints would be blown out of the water by many of the other midtable teams like Villa/Everton/WHU should Bale ever become available.

I'd love to take him too but let's be real it just isn't happening, I think he still has some quality to make a difference but yeah at the wages we'd offer there would be many other clubs sniffing around and even offering a greater sign-on fee probably.

In addition, we were 19th on the list of 20 clubs for agent fees, I can imagine that being incredibly high. 

We wouldn't be blown out of the water if Bale wanted to come here. Of course he could go anywhere, but its still his decision, he has suggested in the past that Saints are a special place to him, as with Cardiff. There were rumours when we were taken over that he is mates with Dragan (or whatever his name is). He clearly wants to wind down his (club) career, it is not really that far fetched that he might do so at Saints. Whether we would actually want him is another matter. 

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What are the golf courses like around Hampshire? Let's face it, we aren't going to compete on money terms.

As for quality, I watched the last Wales game.. I know he was motivated, but if that is unfit then he still has a fair bit to offer. Unlikely but an interesting discussion point over a drink..

 

 

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3 hours ago, nta786 said:

Saints would be blown out of the water by many of the other midtable teams like Villa/Everton/WHU should Bale ever become available.

I'd love to take him too but let's be real it just isn't happening, I think he still has some quality to make a difference but yeah at the wages we'd offer there would be many other clubs sniffing around and even offering a greater sign-on fee probably.

In addition, we were 19th on the list of 20 clubs for agent fees, I can imagine that being incredibly high. 

Mid table Championship?

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4 hours ago, nta786 said:

Saints would be blown out of the water by many of the other midtable teams like Villa/Everton/WHU should Bale ever become available.

he is available, on a free, in June.  

You are right to say that other `mid table sides' could offer much bigger wages than us. 

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7 hours ago, Turkish said:

Bale would be great alongside Salisu, one of the best centre backs of all time IMO, even if he is getting on a bit.

Easily the best RB in the world, when in his prime. Incredible XG for a defender. 

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14 hours ago, suewhistle said:

What are the golf courses like around Hampshire? Let's face it, we aren't going to compete on money terms.

As for quality, I watched the last Wales game.. I know he was motivated, but if that is unfit then he still has a fair bit to offer. Unlikely but an interesting discussion point over a drink..

 

 

Southampton is pretty lacking to be fair. Stonehams nice but short by modern standards, both Winchesters are decent but not special. He’d have to live in Surrey (I.e. Wentworth) and commute I’d imagine. Shane Long manages it so I guess it’s ok.   Maybe they could car share and compare scoring records over the last three years on the way to training?

As for the football… I imagine if we did consider him (extremely unlikely IMHO) it would be on a weighted pay/play deal so don’t think fitness would be a concern in that respect. And he’s easily better than any of our current options for front four.
I think the issue is how he plays, i.e. his lack of effort in pressing. He did score a few for spurs, often from the bench. He was benched because he ambled around like Tiss used to do and it’s not enough in this era, especially for the tactics Ralph uses. At best you could try and hide him up top but as a no 10 he’d be a liability without the ball.

And we don’t need him for free kicks ;) 

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21 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

I don’t understand why anyone would want him on any sort of deal at all, other than pointless nostalgia. We’ve already had Theo ‘come home’ after no one else wanted him, look how that’s going.

He is a world class player on his day - but he's been stuck in a toxic environment with Madrid fans for years. He delivers for Wales time after time as well as on the biggest stages of all in continental and Spanish football. Its clear he only players when he really wants these days, but if Saints could afford to get him for a couple of years (and he wanted to be here) we'd be mental not to.

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14 minutes ago, Chewy said:

Southampton is pretty lacking to be fair. Stonehams nice but short by modern standards, both Winchesters are decent but not special. He’d have to live in Surrey (I.e. Wentworth) and commute I’d imagine. Shane Long manages it so I guess it’s ok.   Maybe they could car share and compare scoring records over the last three years on the way to training?

As for the football… I imagine if we did consider him (extremely unlikely IMHO) it would be on a weighted pay/play deal so don’t think fitness would be a concern in that respect. And he’s easily better than any of our current options for front four.
I think the issue is how he plays, i.e. his lack of effort in pressing. He did score a few for spurs, often from the bench. He was benched because he ambled around like Tiss used to do and it’s not enough in this era, especially for the tactics Ralph uses. At best you could try and hide him up top but as a no 10 he’d be a liability without the ball.

And we don’t need him for free kicks ;) 

Dibden is decent for a public course 

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15 hours ago, adriansfc said:

Abolute garbage. Just mindless crticism from someone who can't be watching very closely. 

Madrid can waste some great players when they fall out with them. How can anyone stay totally fit when they're rarely considered for selection? He went to Spurs and when played was excellent. Well, well above our level. He plays for Wales and he's still excellent. 

He's not even old. If he still wants to he could play top level for another 3 seasons. He's got nothing left to prove so I imagine it depends what sort of move he wants next. But our team would be so much better with a goalscorer like that. 

He's not considered for selection because he is never fit and barely bothers when he does play. Ancelloti has tried to play him several times and been told that Bale is 'not feeling right' or 'not 100%', he was supposedly injured for Real then suddenly turns up fine for Wales and plays 90 minutes, something he has done several times.

He can't be arsed and would be a giant waste of space for any club that signs him considering how much he would want to be paid and how little effort he has put in.

The reason he doesn't play for Madrid is down to him, not Madrid, he's had plenty of opportunities, he just can't be bothered.

 

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18 minutes ago, Give it to Ron said:

Remedy Oaks is most player’s choice.

Around here Stoneham, Hockley, Hamptworth and Royal Winchester are good my old club Bramshaw were until new management took over.

Brokenhurst Manor is pretty exclusive, mid 90's they had a 12 year waiting list for membership. Easier now but still plenty of snobbish old boys there. 

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23 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

What would be great about it? He is frequently unfit and his commitment is questionable at best. The fact that he is actually linked to bottom half Championship Cardiff is probably a fairly good indicator.

I doubt that. He is Welsh and probably would like to help the top Welsh club back into the Premier League.

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