Toadhall Saint Posted 16 July, 2022 Posted 16 July, 2022 On 16/07/2022 at 18:05, ally_uk said: Someone better like who? Expand There’s loads out there don’t you know! I mean there was a queue around at Mary’s earlier.
Turkish Posted 16 July, 2022 Posted 16 July, 2022 On 16/07/2022 at 22:36, Toadhall Saint said: There’s loads out there don’t you know! I mean there was a queue around at Mary’s earlier. Expand Ellie White?
revolution saint Posted 16 July, 2022 Posted 16 July, 2022 On 16/07/2022 at 18:05, ally_uk said: Someone better like who? Expand Cornet probably represents better value for money but possibly lower resale value. Would imagine both would score a similar amount next season were we to sign either. Just an example mind, not saying we should, are or will sign him 1
st alex Posted 17 July, 2022 Posted 17 July, 2022 How many more signings do we think we can expect? I'd expect striker, but would also like another attacking midfielder or winger, full back (on loan), and centre back (Colwill?). Especially if Walcott and Bednarek move on. Would be nice to shift Djenepo on too, maybe Redmond as well. 1
egg Posted 17 July, 2022 Posted 17 July, 2022 On 16/07/2022 at 23:05, revolution saint said: Cornet probably represents better value for money but possibly lower resale value. Would imagine both would score a similar amount next season were we to sign either. Just an example mind, not saying we should, are or will sign him Expand Cornet is a winger. Broja is a centre forward. We need a main man up front, and don't play with wingers. 1 1
ally_uk Posted 17 July, 2022 Posted 17 July, 2022 Danny Ings and 20 million on new striker. Attacking midfielder creative player similar mould to Tadic. Another centre back personally I'd like to see somebody experienced and a leader. Anything else would be a bonus. Using the above swap out Ings for Delap on loan. But the other striker we need to invest properly. Broja aside who else fits the mould? And actually can score in the premier league? I can't think of anyone..... Anyways that's how I would end the window anything else is a bonus. 1
Streaky Posted 17 July, 2022 Posted 17 July, 2022 On 17/07/2022 at 08:33, egg said: Cornet is a winger. Broja is a centre forward. We need a main man up front, and don't play with wingers. Expand Cornet played alot of games upfront for Burnley last season. 1
beatlesaint Posted 17 July, 2022 Posted 17 July, 2022 On 17/07/2022 at 08:33, egg said: Cornet is a winger. Broja is a centre forward. We need a main man up front, and don't play with wingers. Expand Is the only reason we dont play with wingers (Redmond, Walcott, Djenepo) because the wide men we have are crap though ?
egg Posted 17 July, 2022 Posted 17 July, 2022 On 17/07/2022 at 08:56, Streaky said: Cornet played alot of games upfront for Burnley last season. Expand We played Redmond up front. He's not a centre forward, neither is Cornet.
egg Posted 17 July, 2022 Posted 17 July, 2022 On 17/07/2022 at 08:59, beatlesaint said: Is the only reason we dont play with wingers (Redmond, Walcott, Djenepo) because the wide men we have are crap though ? Expand I assumed it was cos Ralph likes the wider 2 to tuck in.
Turkish Posted 17 July, 2022 Posted 17 July, 2022 On 17/07/2022 at 09:25, egg said: I assumed it was cos Ralph likes the wider 2 to tuck in. Expand And the width comes from the full back, which will be even more important if we’re playing with 3 centre backs
egg Posted 17 July, 2022 Posted 17 July, 2022 On 17/07/2022 at 09:26, Turkish said: And the width comes from the full back, which will be even more important if we’re playing with 3 centre backs Expand Yep. Looks like that's the way we're going. I'd still like a Broja type up top with someone playing off and around him. 2
manji Posted 17 July, 2022 Posted 17 July, 2022 Sports Republic said they would strengthen every position before the start of the season. No reason to doubt them so far 2
Turkish Posted 17 July, 2022 Posted 17 July, 2022 On 17/07/2022 at 09:31, egg said: Yep. Looks like that's the way we're going. I'd still like a Broja type up top with someone playing off and around him. Expand Yeah someone like that, big, strong, powerful. Definitely need someone of that type. The lad at stuggart appears that type but he’s being linked with Bayern Munich and Man United now so guess he’s out of our league.
John B Posted 17 July, 2022 Posted 17 July, 2022 On 17/07/2022 at 09:51, Turkish said: Yeah someone like that, big, strong, powerful. Definitely need someone of that type. The lad at stuggart appears that type but he’s being linked with Bayern Munich and Man United now so guess he’s out of our league. Expand Without investment of decent players there is every chance will be out of the league We are in the PL surely we should be investing in a couple PL players not just youngsters who may develop into PL players or may not I am not sure who was the last player who came in as an experienced player and was an automatic selection and enhanced the team
Turkish Posted 17 July, 2022 Posted 17 July, 2022 On 17/07/2022 at 10:03, John B said: Without investment of decent players there is every chance will be out of the league We are in the PL surely we should be investing in a couple PL players not just youngsters who may develop into PL players or may not I am not sure who was the last player who came in as an experienced player and was an automatic selection and enhanced the team Expand Joe Aribo probably 5
John B Posted 17 July, 2022 Posted 17 July, 2022 On 17/07/2022 at 10:04, Turkish said: Joe Aribo probably Expand Hopefully but I would just like a couple of proven PL players
Turkish Posted 17 July, 2022 Posted 17 July, 2022 (edited) On 17/07/2022 at 10:24, John B said: Hopefully but I would just like a couple of proven PL players Expand Yep Definitely at centre back. We’ve spent 5 years gambling on that position and we’ve had a horrendous defensive record for years with crap defenders not up to the job Edited 17 July, 2022 by Turkish 1
Matthew Le God Posted 17 July, 2022 Posted 17 July, 2022 (edited) On 17/07/2022 at 10:24, John B said: Hopefully but I would just like a couple of proven PL players Expand Why do they need to be 'PL proven'? Mane, Wanyama, Tadic, Pelle, Alderweireld & van Dijk all had never played a PL game before joining Saints. Edited 17 July, 2022 by Matthew Le God 2
revolution saint Posted 17 July, 2022 Posted 17 July, 2022 On 17/07/2022 at 08:33, egg said: Cornet is a winger. Broja is a centre forward. We need a main man up front, and don't play with wingers. Expand He played up front a fair bit and scored goals. Nothing to say he couldn’t make the switch permanently. Anyway someone asked for an example and I gave one. That’s all 1
S-Clarke Posted 17 July, 2022 Posted 17 July, 2022 On 17/07/2022 at 10:24, John B said: Hopefully but I would just like a couple of proven PL players Expand To be honest the only clubs who can sign proven PL players are the likes of Spurs, Arsenal, Man Utd, City, Chelsea etc. The 'PL' experience comes with a premium which is usually in excess of £35m. The only other way we can sign 'PL' experience is to get some older players at the end of their careers, like Ben Mee or Theo - but less said about that approach the better. Our only option is to sign younger players who we can then provide PL experience to, after which we can then ask for the premium when clubs come sniffing. That's our place, that's not going to change. 5
danjosaint Posted 17 July, 2022 Posted 17 July, 2022 What I find strange is all the rounds Ralph done in Germany and Austria and he's bought nobody in from the above, surely he would of had contacts/scouting/General knowledge of those leagues, is this partly because of the scouting dept over the years don't back him up after being burned on Carillo deal or the fact he's supposed to have poor man management skills that nobody would want to work with him
John B Posted 17 July, 2022 Posted 17 July, 2022 On 17/07/2022 at 10:47, Matthew Le God said: Why do they need to be 'PL proven'? Mane, Wanyama, Tadic, Pelle, Alderweireld & van Dijk all had never played a PL game before joining Saints. Expand Strangeley if I invested loads of dosh on players and paid them ridiculous wages compared with most if not all on here I would like some of guarantee that a few of them would enhance the team With our academy players we try them out and find most are not of PL standard Especially after Carrillo Lemina Hoedt Forren Vestergaard Osvaldo Ramires etc never played in the PL were flops Of course some will be OK
Turkish Posted 17 July, 2022 Posted 17 July, 2022 On 17/07/2022 at 11:13, danjosaint said: What I find strange is all the rounds Ralph done in Germany and Austria and he's bought nobody in from the above, surely he would of had contacts/scouting/General knowledge of those leagues, is this partly because of the scouting dept over the years don't back him up after being burned on Carillo deal or the fact he's supposed to have poor man management skills that nobody would want to work with him Expand Kevin Danso is Austrian and came from the German league
Turkish Posted 17 July, 2022 Posted 17 July, 2022 I’m surprised we haven’t been linked with Ben Breaton. Good record at Blackburn and also 4 in 15 for Chile. Seems our sort of signing, YHGTI 1
miserableoldgit Posted 17 July, 2022 Posted 17 July, 2022 Sunday and no rumours? Used to be the big rumour day when Sunday newspapers were popular....
Guest Posted 17 July, 2022 Posted 17 July, 2022 I think we’ll get another three in permanently plus one on loan. Delap permanent. Colwill on loan but within a week of the season starting. In terms of outgoings: Long has gone. No one will come in for McCarthy or Walcott - not on their wages. Djenepo will see out the last year of his contract on loan. Bednarek will leave but I think for less than rumoured, it’ll be around the £10m mark. KWP and JWP as previously said won’t be leaving.
Dman Posted 17 July, 2022 Posted 17 July, 2022 Delap and that lad out in Germany we’ve been linked with, would be a very good set of replacements for Long and Broja. 1
Dusic Posted 17 July, 2022 Posted 17 July, 2022 On 17/07/2022 at 12:18, Dman said: Delap and that lad out in Germany we’ve been linked with, would be a very good set of replacements for Long and Broja. Expand Delap is totally unproven at mens level. The lad out in Germany was injured most of last season. Good replacement for Long perhaps but Broja was robust and able to score at PL level, which neither of the two you mentioned can say.
wild-saint Posted 17 July, 2022 Posted 17 July, 2022 On 17/07/2022 at 10:47, Matthew Le God said: Why do they need to be 'PL proven'? Mane, Wanyama, Tadic, Pelle, Alderweireld & van Dijk all had never played a PL game before joining Saints. Expand It’s easy to pick a few that have been successful just like it’s easy to pick a handful that haven’t beeen successful, Diallo, djneppo, Carrillo etc etc. why the need to try and prove people wrong all the time? 4 2
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 17 July, 2022 Posted 17 July, 2022 Am not totally sold on Delap to be honest. Season on loan with an option to buy may be would be worth the gamble. Would like to see someone more established come in, but as stated on here many times, that comes at a premium price. 2
Dman Posted 17 July, 2022 Posted 17 July, 2022 On 17/07/2022 at 12:30, Dusic said: Delap is totally unproven at mens level. The lad out in Germany was injured most of last season. Good replacement for Long perhaps but Broja was robust and able to score at PL level, which neither of the two you mentioned can say. Expand I don’t know a great deal about either of them, they look alright on the highlights reels from what I’ve seen. Delap is unproven, but we do have Adams and Armstrong who’ll both need to step up as well next season.
AlexLaw76 Posted 17 July, 2022 Posted 17 July, 2022 Being reported that we have put a £40m price on KWP.. As opposed to 'Not for sale'..... 1
Matthew Le God Posted 17 July, 2022 Posted 17 July, 2022 (edited) On 17/07/2022 at 13:11, AlexLaw76 said: Being reported that we have put a £40m price on KWP.. As opposed to 'Not for sale'..... Expand Every player in the world has a price they would be sold for. No player is entirely 'not for sale'. In any case the £40m figure comes from Alan Nixon who is a terrible journalist and was previously using a £15m price for Walker-Peters. Edited 17 July, 2022 by Matthew Le God
AlexLaw76 Posted 17 July, 2022 Posted 17 July, 2022 On 17/07/2022 at 13:14, Matthew Le God said: Every player in the world has a price they would be sold for. No player is entirely 'not for sale'. In any case the £40m figure comes from Alan Nixon who is a terrible journalist and was previously using a £15m price for Walker-Peters. Expand Weird. We communicated that JWP is not for sale - on a number of occasions.
Matthew Le God Posted 17 July, 2022 Posted 17 July, 2022 On 17/07/2022 at 13:17, AlexLaw76 said: Weird. We communicated that JWP is not for sale - on a number of occasions. Expand If someone bid £80m for Ward-Prowse do you think he wouldn't be sold? Every player has a price no matter what a club may say. 3
AlexLaw76 Posted 17 July, 2022 Posted 17 July, 2022 On 17/07/2022 at 13:30, Matthew Le God said: If someone bid £80m for Ward-Prowse do you think he wouldn't be sold? Every player has a price no matter what a club may say. Expand That is not the point.
Matthew Le God Posted 17 July, 2022 Posted 17 July, 2022 On 17/07/2022 at 13:36, AlexLaw76 said: That is not the point. Expand What is your point then? 2 1
AlexLaw76 Posted 17 July, 2022 Posted 17 July, 2022 On 17/07/2022 at 13:37, Matthew Le God said: What is your point then? Expand Not going to go round-and-around with you. Please stop replying 5 2
Mowgli Posted 17 July, 2022 Posted 17 July, 2022 On 17/07/2022 at 11:15, John B said: Strangeley if I invested loads of dosh on players and paid them ridiculous wages compared with most if not all on here I would like some of guarantee that a few of them would enhance the team With our academy players we try them out and find most are not of PL standard Especially after Carrillo Lemina Hoedt Forren Vestergaard Osvaldo Ramires etc never played in the PL were flops Of course some will be OK Expand Have you thought about buying a washing machine?
SuperSAINT Posted 17 July, 2022 Posted 17 July, 2022 On 17/07/2022 at 14:37, Matthew Le God said: A rumour at last... Expand We were linked a year ago, too. https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/15692765/arsenal-matchoi-djalo-transfer-swoop/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=sunfootballtwitter&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1627290171
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 17 July, 2022 Posted 17 July, 2022 (edited) On 17/07/2022 at 10:47, Matthew Le God said: Why do they need to be 'PL proven'? Mane, Wanyama, Tadic, Pelle, Alderweireld & van Dijk all had never played a PL game before joining Saints. Expand I think the clue to answer your question is the word “proven”. Edited 17 July, 2022 by Fitzhugh Fella
Charlie Wayman Posted 17 July, 2022 Posted 17 July, 2022 On 17/07/2022 at 08:33, egg said: Cornet is a whinger. Broja is a centre forward. We need a main man up front, and don't play with wingers. Expand Sorry I thought you had written.........
Matthew Le God Posted 17 July, 2022 Posted 17 July, 2022 On 17/07/2022 at 15:20, Fitzhugh Fella said: I think the clue to your question is the word “proven”. Expand Not really, as my second sentence points out the flaw. 1
Convict Colony Posted 17 July, 2022 Posted 17 July, 2022 On 17/07/2022 at 11:16, Turkish said: Kevin Danso is Austrian and came from the German league Expand 2
igsey Posted 17 July, 2022 Posted 17 July, 2022 Is Colwill still being linked with a move away from Chelsea now that the Aké deal is dead?
Saint Matty 76 Posted 17 July, 2022 Posted 17 July, 2022 On 17/07/2022 at 15:26, igsey said: Is Colwill still being linked with a move away from Chelsea now that the Aké deal is dead? Expand They're signing Kounde instead I believe, so wouldn't imagine anythings changed regarding Colwill's situation.
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