Paulwantsapint81 Posted 4 July, 2022 Posted 4 July, 2022 Regarding Broja the geordie fans are the only fans who love a no9 Can see him having pre season at Chelsea ———————————— Regarding Delap have saints ever had a father & son both play for us? unfortunatly know Arry signed Jamie (who did try & battled through his knackered knees)
DT Posted 4 July, 2022 Posted 4 July, 2022 On 04/07/2022 at 20:39, SuperSAINT said: Expand Suspect we’ve moved on from this. Seems overpriced to me.
Saint Garrett Posted 4 July, 2022 Posted 4 July, 2022 Not sure where Everton are getting £25m from? They’re skint.
Appy Posted 4 July, 2022 Posted 4 July, 2022 On 04/07/2022 at 20:58, Saint Garrett said: Not sure where Everton are getting £25m from? They’re skint. Expand £50m for Richarlison
SuperSAINT Posted 4 July, 2022 Posted 4 July, 2022 On 04/07/2022 at 20:58, Saint Garrett said: Not sure where Everton are getting £25m from? They’re skint. Expand On 04/07/2022 at 21:03, Appy said: £50m for Richarlison Expand Yeah, wasn't the Richarlison thing an accountancy fudge to protect their end-of-year accounts for last season? They are now free to splurge again.
woodsaint1 Posted 4 July, 2022 Posted 4 July, 2022 On 04/07/2022 at 18:35, Lee On Solent Saint said: I thought Stevie G would have been all over this one Expand Maybe he doesnt want him. He would know him better than most on whether he would be successful in the PL
HarvSFC Posted 4 July, 2022 Posted 4 July, 2022 I knew Odsonne Edouard would find it a lot more difficult in the Premier League and said as much last summer when we were linked with him and Armstrong to replace Ings. I did say I would prefer Armstrong at the time, but a year later and neither would have been much better than the other. Aribo's a bit more of a difficult one. He has the skills, but I don't think he's always in control and given the lack of time and space in the Premier League, those skills may not come off as much down here as they do in Scotland. He's not particularly pacey either and isn't a playmaker like Tadic. But, at £10m, that's a fair price these days and may be a gamble worth taking. Although, I would rather see an electric forward like Mane/Pre-injury Rodriguez come in. 2
Chez Posted 4 July, 2022 Posted 4 July, 2022 On 04/07/2022 at 18:26, Sheaf Saint said: The big question is: does he have more pace than either of those two? The lack of speed among our current lot of inside forwards is what makes us so toothless and easy to defend against. Expand Aribo is not pacey, he's a ball player, nice touch, good feet, tricks and dribbles. I really liked him at Charlton and suggested we take him on a free. I'm not sure his game has progressed much. He's good to watch, will help us retain the ball, but I'm not sure there is the pace, power and end product you might be after.
Saint Garrett Posted 4 July, 2022 Posted 4 July, 2022 On 04/07/2022 at 21:03, Appy said: £50m for Richarlison Expand Thought that was to help with FFP over that period, but still thought they were skint. Ballsy especially given the fact they claim covid cost them a lot more than it actually did…
igsey Posted 4 July, 2022 Posted 4 July, 2022 Aribo sounds ideal but there's no way we pay £10m for a 25-year-old SPL player with a year left on his contract. Hopefully we can get him for £7m or so.
SNSUN Posted 5 July, 2022 Posted 5 July, 2022 On 04/07/2022 at 20:30, Paulwantsapint81 said: Regarding Broja the geordie fans are the only fans who love a no9 Can see him having pre season at Chelsea ———————————— Regarding Delap have saints ever had a father & son both play for us? unfortunatly know Arry signed Jamie (who did try & battled through his knackered knees) Expand Another manager/player combo if you consider youth players, in both Pochettino Sr and Jr. We've had players who've had football playing dads (Wright-Phillips, Gunn etc) but I can't think of a dad/son combo that both played for us. (There's probably a really obvious one and I'll look silly 🙄). 1
Saint_clark Posted 5 July, 2022 Posted 5 July, 2022 On 04/07/2022 at 21:24, HarvSFC said: I knew Odsonne Edouard would find it a lot more difficult in the Premier League and said as much last summer when we were linked with him and Armstrong to replace Ings. I did say I would prefer Armstrong at the time, but a year later and neither would have been much better than the other. Aribo's a bit more of a difficult one. He has the skills, but I don't think he's always in control and given the lack of time and space in the Premier League, those skills may not come off as much down here as they do in Scotland. He's not particularly pacey either and isn't a playmaker like Tadic. But, at £10m, that's a fair price these days and may be a gamble worth taking. Although, I would rather see an electric forward like Mane/Pre-injury Rodriguez come in. Expand Edouard has definitely been better than Armstrong. 6 goals and 3 assists in 28 appearances, compared to Armstrong who is a year older and got 2 goals and 2 assists in 27 appearances. 1
Badger Posted 5 July, 2022 Posted 5 July, 2022 On 05/07/2022 at 03:56, SNSUN said: Another manager/player combo if you consider youth players, in both Pochettino Sr and Jr. We've had players who've had football playing dads (Wright-Phillips, Gunn etc) but I can't think of a dad/son combo that both played for us. (There's probably a really obvious one and I'll look silly 🙄). Expand Wasn’t Alan Ball’s son an apprentice at Saints at one point ? Lawrie’s son Chris McMenemy was with us, and later had a coaching role. Neither of their sons got near playing for the first team though. 1
Dman Posted 5 July, 2022 Posted 5 July, 2022 On 05/07/2022 at 05:58, Saint_clark said: Edouard has definitely been better than Armstrong. 6 goals and 3 assists in 28 appearances, compared to Armstrong who is a year older and got 2 goals and 2 assists in 27 appearances. Expand In fairness though place were a better team than us last season, especially in the final 3rd. Not saying I disagree, but I do suspect Armstrong would have scored more there than he did here.
Saint86 Posted 5 July, 2022 Posted 5 July, 2022 (edited) On 04/07/2022 at 21:29, Chez said: Aribo is not pacey, he's a ball player, nice touch, good feet, tricks and dribbles. I really liked him at Charlton and suggested we take him on a free. I'm not sure his game has progressed much. He's good to watch, will help us retain the ball, but I'm not sure there is the pace, power and end product you might be after. Expand Watched a load of clips this morning. Lots of midfield tricks - notably has some nice touches, but also an awful lot of loose ones that I think would be punished in the prem. Initially I thought he reminded me of lallana, I.e. has some skill and is used to a more physical league (before reaching the prem). But similar to your view, now my overriding impression is that he plays against league 1 players for a team that made the europa league final, and yet, what was most notable was the lack of quality end product - I.e. chance yielding passes, assists, or goals. Suspect a Nathan redmond highlight real would look similar or perhaps better? 🤷♂️ Edited 5 July, 2022 by Saint86
John B Posted 5 July, 2022 Posted 5 July, 2022 On 05/07/2022 at 06:28, Dman said: In fairness though place were a better team than us last season, especially in the final 3rd. Not saying I disagree, but I do suspect Armstrong would have scored more there than he did here. Expand Perhaps thy were a better team in the final third because Armstrong was not playing for them is a possible explanation 1
The Cat Posted 5 July, 2022 Posted 5 July, 2022 Edouard started well but then seemed to struggle to nail down a place in the starting eleven for Palace. Not sure he's strong enough at holding the ball up to play on his own up front which is why Palace ended up playing Mateta. We'd have to do a lot of work to get him on board with pressing. Technically very good though.
Baird of the land Posted 5 July, 2022 Posted 5 July, 2022 Don't think Aribo is a terrible player but don't think he is what we need at 10. 2
MarkSFC Posted 5 July, 2022 Posted 5 July, 2022 On 05/07/2022 at 07:17, Baird of the land said: Don't think Aribo is a terrible player but don't think he is what we need at 10. Expand To be fair I've not really seen him a lot but one or two Rangers fans I know think he's pretty decent and they're normally good judges. I agree though we probably need someone different to him (Id love CHO regardless as how unlikely it might seem) but as well as him, together with Stu Armstrong and probably Tella (one more season to establish himself), it sounds better than last seasons group with Redmond, Moussa and Theo.
Give it to Ron Posted 5 July, 2022 Posted 5 July, 2022 On 05/07/2022 at 06:03, Badger said: Wasn’t Alan Ball’s son an apprentice at Saints at one point ? Lawrie’s son Chris McMenemy was with us, and later had a coaching role. Neither of their sons got near playing for the first team though. Expand We also had Tony Pulis’s son for a while was shocking in games saw him shouted a lot at others couldn’t do it himself.
beatlesaint Posted 5 July, 2022 Posted 5 July, 2022 On 05/07/2022 at 07:25, Give it to Ron said: We also had Tony Pulis’s son for a while was shocking in games saw him shouted a lot at others couldn’t do it himself. Expand Bloody hell i had forgotten that complete waste of space. I think I saw him on the pitch once in a pre season friendly. He seemed to hang around for a long time but that could just be my imagination playing tricks. 1
Turkish Posted 5 July, 2022 Posted 5 July, 2022 Cant think of too many players who have played for their dads Harry and Jamie Redknapp Brian and Nigel Clough Ron and Dalian Atkinson Cant think of any others. 1 5
DT Posted 5 July, 2022 Posted 5 July, 2022 On 05/07/2022 at 07:32, Turkish said: Cant think of too many players who have played for their dads Harry and Jamie Redknapp Brian and Nigel Clough Ron and Dalian Atkinson Cant think of any others. Expand Kevin Bond John Bond? 1
SuperSAINT Posted 5 July, 2022 Posted 5 July, 2022 On 05/07/2022 at 07:32, Turkish said: Cant think of too many players who have played for their dads Harry and Jamie Redknapp Brian and Nigel Clough Ron and Dalian Atkinson Cant think of any others. Expand Did Darren Ferguson ever play competitively for Man Utd ?
beatlesaint Posted 5 July, 2022 Posted 5 July, 2022 (edited) On 05/07/2022 at 07:35, SuperSAINT said: Did Darren Ferguson ever play competitively for Man Utd ? Expand Yes he made over 25 appearances for them Edited 5 July, 2022 by beatlesaint
wild-saint Posted 5 July, 2022 Posted 5 July, 2022 On 05/07/2022 at 07:32, Turkish said: Cant think of too many players who have played for their dads Harry and Jamie Redknapp Brian and Nigel Clough Ron and Dalian Atkinson Cant think of any others. Expand Any Portsmouth player ever! Edit - sorry thought you said "played with" 5
Turkish Posted 5 July, 2022 Posted 5 July, 2022 On 05/07/2022 at 07:35, SuperSAINT said: Did Darren Ferguson ever play competitively for Man Utd ? Expand good call, 27 times apparently.
Paul Chuckle Posted 5 July, 2022 Posted 5 July, 2022 On 05/07/2022 at 07:32, Turkish said: Cant think of too many players who have played for their dads Harry and Jamie Redknapp Brian and Nigel Clough Ron and Dalian Atkinson Cant think of any others. Expand Gary and Lee Johnson
Bad Wolf Posted 5 July, 2022 Posted 5 July, 2022 On 05/07/2022 at 06:03, Badger said: Wasn’t Alan Ball’s son an apprentice at Saints at one point ? Lawrie’s son Chris McMenemy was with us, and later had a coaching role. Neither of their sons got near playing for the first team though. Expand Jamie Redknapp was playing for us when Harry was managing us...That's about the closest I can think of
Bad Wolf Posted 5 July, 2022 Posted 5 July, 2022 On 05/07/2022 at 07:32, Turkish said: Cant think of too many players who have played for their dads Harry and Jamie Redknapp Brian and Nigel Clough Ron and Dalian Atkinson Cant think of any others. Expand The Fergie's
SuperSAINT Posted 5 July, 2022 Posted 5 July, 2022 On 05/07/2022 at 08:12, Turkish said: good call, 27 times apparently. Expand Pulis & Pulis?
Bad Wolf Posted 5 July, 2022 Posted 5 July, 2022 On 05/07/2022 at 08:39, SuperSAINT said: Pulis & Pulis? Expand Not sure Pulis jr ever actually played for Stoke did he?
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 5 July, 2022 Posted 5 July, 2022 Surely Steve Bruce has managed his son somewhere?!
SotonianWill Posted 5 July, 2022 Posted 5 July, 2022 On 05/07/2022 at 08:41, Lee On Solent Saint said: Surely Steve Bruce has managed his son somewhere?! Expand yes at hull. paul ince and tom ince at blackpool / reading last season
Pilchards Posted 5 July, 2022 Posted 5 July, 2022 Thought this was a place we come for transfer speculation? 10
Convict Colony Posted 5 July, 2022 Posted 5 July, 2022 Watched the first 3mins of his 2021 highlight video and its a no for me - he's just a lanky moi, we need killers coming in from the wide positions with pace not the same player in a billion different varieties.
Saint Fan CaM Posted 5 July, 2022 Posted 5 July, 2022 Would still like us sign Broja on a permanent but for not more than 20m which is unlikely I guess. Not sure Aribo is in the same mould or has the same ability?
Badger Posted 5 July, 2022 Posted 5 July, 2022 On 05/07/2022 at 07:25, Give it to Ron said: We also had Tony Pulis’s son for a while was shocking in games saw him shouted a lot at others couldn’t do it himself. Expand Yes he was but difference being that Pulis Snr wasn’t or hasn’t been involved at Saints (unless you include a rumoured agreement with Rupert to take over at some stage).
Badger Posted 5 July, 2022 Posted 5 July, 2022 On 05/07/2022 at 09:24, Saint Fan CaM said: Would still like us sign Broja on a permanent but for not more than 20m which is unlikely I guess. Not sure Aribo is in the same mould or has the same ability? Expand Don’t think he’s anywhere near Broja in terms of ability or potential. Not same position either. 1
revolution saint Posted 5 July, 2022 Posted 5 July, 2022 On 05/07/2022 at 09:01, Convict Colony said: Watched the first 3mins of his 2021 highlight video and its a no for me - he's just a lanky moi, we need killers coming in from the wide positions with pace not the same player in a billion different varieties. Expand Not sure pace in itself is the answer in the ten position (although it doesn't do any harm). Stuart Armstrong is our best player in the position but I wouldn't say he was that quick. Problem with Moi is that he's slow and also not really able to beat any players with skill. Plus, half the time we compress the play so much that there's no space for anyone to run into even if they did have any pace. Not really sure what the answer is. I liked the look of Christoph Baumgartner - he looked perfect for the role but aside from an Athletic article suggesting we should sign him there hasn't been any serious links. I reckon we're looking at people that haven't been mentioned yet - the Aribo one smacks of agent trying to get his name out there so everyone knows he's available.
VectisSaint Posted 5 July, 2022 Posted 5 July, 2022 On 04/07/2022 at 20:30, Paulwantsapint81 said: Regarding Delap have saints ever had a father & son both play for us? Expand Mitch Le Tiss played in Matt's testimonial 😉
Bad Wolf Posted 5 July, 2022 Posted 5 July, 2022 On 05/07/2022 at 09:45, VectisSaint said: Mitch Le Tiss played in Matt's testimonial 😉 Expand Sonny Davis at Kelvin's as well.
East Kent Saint Posted 5 July, 2022 Posted 5 July, 2022 On 05/07/2022 at 09:47, Bad Wolf said: Sonny Davis at Kelvin's as well. Expand Jr ? 1
East Kent Saint Posted 5 July, 2022 Posted 5 July, 2022 A No 10 who is effective is only noticed by the true football experts , the goal scorers get the accolade's !
Saint86 Posted 5 July, 2022 Posted 5 July, 2022 On 05/07/2022 at 07:32, Turkish said: Cant think of too many players who have played for their dads Harry and Jamie Redknapp Brian and Nigel Clough Ron and Dalian Atkinson Cant think of any others. Expand Tom Ince and Alex Bruce.
Paul Chuckle Posted 5 July, 2022 Posted 5 July, 2022 On 05/07/2022 at 07:32, Turkish said: Cant think of too many players who have played for their dads Harry and Jamie Redknapp Brian and Nigel Clough Ron and Dalian Atkinson Expand Lets not forget Cesare Maldini and Paulo Maldini for Italy And of course Johan and Jordi Cruyff at Barca
Warriorsaint Posted 5 July, 2022 Posted 5 July, 2022 On 05/07/2022 at 05:58, Saint_clark said: Edouard has definitely been better than Armstrong. 6 goals and 3 assists in 28 appearances, compared to Armstrong who is a year older and got 2 goals and 2 assists in 27 appearances. Expand Is Armstrong the new Shane to the boo boys I wonder, now hes gone?🤔
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