Russia

[cloggy saint]

2 hours ago, Jimmy_D said:

Really would be something to see if something unexpected happened in Russia itself and the **** actually ends up having to answer for the devastation he’s caused.

I think the Mussolini treatment would be quite fitting.

 

[badgerx16]

Wagner recruited violent prisoners with long term prison sentences to serve on the front line. Thoe survivors of the first tranche are about to come to the end of their 6 month contracts and be released with Presidential pardons.

I am sure that these ( probably ) psychopathic, drunken, PTSD afflicted thugs are easily going to be integrated back into society. ( Mind you, it is Russia, so possibly they will ).

[Whitey Grandad]

4 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Wagner recruited violent prisoners with long term prison sentences to serve on the front line. Thoe survivors of the first tranche are about to come to the end of their 6 month contracts and be released with Presidential pardons.

I am sure that these ( probably ) psychopathic, drunken, PTSD afflicted thugs are easily going to be integrated back into society. ( Mind you, it is Russia, so possibly they will ).

Ideal government material I would have thought.

[skintsaint]

9 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

Wagner recruited violent prisoners with long term prison sentences to serve on the front line. Thoe survivors of the first tranche are about to come to the end of their 6 month contracts and be released with Presidential pardons.

I am sure that these ( probably ) psychopathic, drunken, PTSD afflicted thugs are easily going to be integrated back into society. ( Mind you, it is Russia, so possibly they will ).

Pretty sure the Russians will have them all now running into Bakhmut with sticks to make sure this doesn't happen!

[badgerx16]

Videos being posted on t'Interwebs of Russian transport trains loaded with T54s/55s, supposedly being moved out of storage. These things are 70 years old. Yes they are tracked gun platforms, but it shows how badly Russian tank production is performing in compensating for battlefield losses.

Meanwhile,the first Leopard 2s are in Ukraine, and the Challengers won't be far behind.

[skintsaint]

https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/russian-musician-known-for-anti-putin-protest-music-dies-in-frozen-river-20230322-p5cu6i.html

[Jonnyboy]

On 21/03/2023 at 09:17, badgerx16 said:

Wagner recruited violent prisoners with long term prison sentences to serve on the front line. Thoe survivors of the first tranche are about to come to the end of their 6 month contracts and be released with Presidential pardons.

I am sure that these ( probably ) psychopathic, drunken, PTSD afflicted thugs are easily going to be integrated back into society. ( Mind you, it is Russia, so possibly they will ).

At least they weren't forced at random off the street like Ukraine has been doing

https://fb.watch/jsohOp4INy/

[Jonnyboy]

On 06/03/2023 at 20:38, badgerx16 said:

Jonnyboy - please explain the laughing emoji. Did I write something amusing ? Or inaccurate ?

Your bizarre claim the Russia wants to erase Ukraine from history was amusing, yes.

[Lighthouse]

41 minutes ago, Jonnyboy said:

Your bizarre claim the Russia wants to erase Ukraine from history was amusing, yes.

https://time.com/6150046/ukraine-statehood-russia-history-putin/
 

Here you go, sport. Have a good night.

[Jonnyboy]

12 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

https://time.com/6150046/ukraine-statehood-russia-history-putin/
 

Here you go, sport. Have a good night.

Not the same thing really is it. 

The real question is when will serious peace/border talks finally take place?

A few more years of this conflict and we'll be approaching one million dead people. Is that really worth the fraying, Chinese-made Ukranian flag hanging off the side of your house and Boris Johnson's inflated "hero of Ukraine" ego? 

This quite prescient article is an interesting perspective on what might have made the most people happy whilst simultaneously killing the least.

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/02/is-it-time-for-ukraine-to-split-up/283967/

 

 

Edited 23 March, 2023 by Jonnyboy

[badgerx16]

1 hour ago, Jonnyboy said:

Your bizarre claim the Russia wants to erase Ukraine from history was amusing, yes.

Were you born a twat, or is it your greatest life achievement to date ?

It is your fan favourite Putin who has spoken and written extensively on his belief that Ukraine is not a 'real country', and that his desire is to restore Russia to it's historical greatness, by violence if necessary.

Edited 23 March, 2023 by badgerx16

[badgerx16]

45 minutes ago, Jonnyboy said:

 

The real question is when will serious peace/border talks finally take place?

 

 

 

When Russia gives up ?

[Whitey Grandad]

1 hour ago, Jonnyboy said:

The real question is when will serious peace/border talks finally take place?

Everybody knows where the borders are. They are internationally agreed. The real question is when will Russia accepts that it’s attempt at stealing land has failed.

Edited 23 March, 2023 by Whitey Grandad

[AlexLaw76]

Talks will start when the US say so

[badgerx16]

24 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Talks will start when the US say so

Not the Chinese ?

[Lighthouse]

2 hours ago, Jonnyboy said:

The real question is when will serious peace/border talks finally take place?

When shall we have a serious talk about how much of your house I own? I want the dining room, minimum, and if you give me that I promise I definitely won’t try to take the kitchen in five years time. Nope, definitely not,

[badgerx16]

3 hours ago, Jonnyboy said:

 

 

Mearsheimer's view is that Ukraine is not allowed to exert self-determination, or a desire to become a 'Western democratic country', because it borders Russia. Should the Ukrainians not be permitted to decide that for themselves ? Should we tell Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia that their development into liberal societies has to be reversed, for the same reason ? Should we sit by and let Moldova simply disappear ?

 

https://euideas.eui.eu/2022/07/11/john-mearsheimers-lecture-on-ukraine-why-he-is-wrong-and-what-are-the-consequences/

Edited 23 March, 2023 by badgerx16

[Whitey Grandad]

1 hour ago, Lighthouse said:

When shall we have a serious talk about how much of your house I own? I want the dining room, minimum, and if you give me that I promise I definitely won’t try to take the kitchen in five years time. Nope, definitely not,

I don’t know if we’ve had this before?

[AlexLaw76]

7 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

Not the Chinese ?

appears not to be the case

[Weston Super Saint]

8 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

When shall we have a serious talk about how much of your house I own? I want the dining room, minimum, and if you give me that I promise I definitely won’t try to take the kitchen in five years time. Nope, definitely not,

Johnnyboy lives in a co-operative not a house.

[badgerx16]

1 hour ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Johnnyboy lives in a co-operative not a house.

JB lives with his parents and should not have been posting so late as he has school today. Perhaps he should wait to join in with grown up discussions until his voice has broken.

[badgerx16]

Jonnyboy, putting aside Mariupol and Bucha, can you justify this ?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65015289

[buctootim]

On 23/03/2023 at 19:26, Jonnyboy said:

At least they weren't forced at random off the street like Ukraine has been doing

https://fb.watch/jsohOp4INy/

Jimmy Dore is a conspiracy nut who supports the Chinese, Syrian and Russian regimes. 

I remember you Johnnyboy as being naive but idealistic. When did you turn into a useful idiot hater?

Edited 26 March, 2023 by buctootim

[buctootim]

On 24/03/2023 at 08:34, badgerx16 said:

Jonnyboy, putting aside Mariupol and Bucha, can you justify this ?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65015289

I think Johnny would support this bit from the link. Gotta smash those who stand in the way of happiness for all. 

Good should have fists.

Good needs an iron hand

To tear the skin from those

Who threaten it.

Edited 26 March, 2023 by buctootim

[badgerx16]

16 hours ago, Jonnyboy said:

At least they weren't forced at random off the street like Ukraine has been doing

https://fb.watch/jsohOp4INy/

Just to put this bullshit argument to bed.....

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/putins-thugs-filmed-snatching-russian-28255699

[Jimmy_D]

20 hours ago, Jonnyboy said:

Not the same thing really is it. 

The real question is when will serious peace/border talks finally take place?

A few more years of this conflict and we'll be approaching one million dead people. Is that really worth the fraying, Chinese-made Ukranian flag hanging off the side of your house and Boris Johnson's inflated "hero of Ukraine" ego? 

This quite prescient article is an interesting perspective on what might have made the most people happy whilst simultaneously killing the least.

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/02/is-it-time-for-ukraine-to-split-up/283967/

 

 

What would it cost to stand by and let a country and an army carry on as they wish, that’s been using murder, rape, and torture as tools to try and wipe a people from existence? That have been kidnapping Ukranian children and are even now bringing them up as Russian, never to know what it would have been like to grow up with their real families?

Why do you support giving anything as a reward for that?

[badgerx16]

Batshit conspiracy theories are not limited to the West. Apparently the HIMARS missiles are so accurate because they are homing in on people vaccinated with the Russian Sputnik COVID vaccine, due to American bio-engineering hacking the vaccine's production.

[whelk]

16 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Batshit conspiracy theories are not limited to the West. Apparently the HIMARS missiles are so accurate because they are homing in on people vaccinated with the Russian Sputnik COVID vaccine, due to American bio-engineering hacking the vaccine's production.

Not sure I agree with your use of apparently 

[Whitey Grandad]

1 hour ago, badgerx16 said:

Batshit conspiracy theories are not limited to the West. Apparently the HIMARS missiles are so accurate because they are homing in on people vaccinated with the Russian Sputnik COVID vaccine, due to American bio-engineering hacking the vaccine's production.

It’s just a plot to deter the Russians from getting vaccinated so that they they’ll die of COVID instead.

[StDunko]

4 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

Batshit conspiracy theories are not limited to the West. Apparently the HIMARS missiles are so accurate because they are homing in on people vaccinated with the Russian Sputnik COVID vaccine, due to American bio-engineering hacking the vaccine's production.

Has anyone told Le Tiss yet? He'll fucking lap that shit up.

[buctootim]

This is absolutely bizarre bottom of the equipment barrel scraping. 1930s! Who stores stuff for 100 years just in case you need it one day?? 

 

 

[badgerx16]

I read that it was kit used for historical recreations being moved ready for a demonstration. Mind you, they are using WW1 era machine guns on both sides.

Edited 26 March, 2023 by badgerx16

[badgerx16]

Russia is said to be moving some of it's nuclear weapons to Belarus, a state with a GDP around that of Montana. Which is fair, because the US keeps a lot of it's nuclear arsenal in a State with the GDP of Montana.

[Weston Super Saint]

Hang on, I thought they were good for weapons and all this dipping into the 2nd world war era arms was just a bit of a laugh.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65131117

Quote

Russia is sending a delegation to North Korea to offer food in exchange for weapons, US national security spokesperson John Kirby has said.

We should be quaking in our boots if they're now relying on the North Korean weapons!

[Jimmy_D]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-6512923

If Russia are going to arrest people for discrediting the Russian army they should probably start with Putin.

[Jonnyboy]

On 23/03/2023 at 23:53, Whitey Grandad said:

I don’t know if we’ve had this before?

Racist much. 

[Jonnyboy]

I suppose "JimmyD" and the NATO gang who want every last inch of their second home reclaimed think that, for example, Crimea, will result in zero casualties. How will the 1.5 million Russians who live there fare? I mean it was carnage in 2014, right?

[badgerx16]

50 minutes ago, Jonnyboy said:

I suppose "JimmyD" and the NATO gang who want every last inch of their second home reclaimed think that, for example, Crimea, will result in zero casualties. How will the 1.5 million Russians who live there fare? I mean it was carnage in 2014, right?

The population of Crimea has been manipulated for political purposes for the last 100 years. It has always been a mixture of Ethnic Russians, Tatars, and Ukrainians, with a sprinkling of Greek and Bulgarian citizens. Stalin deported almost all of the Tatars to central Asia, and encouraged Russians to move there in their place. As a consequence, the number of Russian citizens increased from 560k to 860k between 1939 and 1959. Since 2014, Ukrainians and Tatars, who had started to return after the fall of the USSR, have fled the illegal Russian occupation and yet more Russians have been relocated into the region. 

At the point of Ukrainian independence Crimea was part of it's territory, actually thanks to Kruschev. Naturally there were some ethnic tensions, as with all the other former SSRs, as the 'local' peoples found their voice and identities after years of Russian suppression, but there certainly was not any form of genocidal oppression. The illegal military invasion and occupation of Crimea was never to rescue the ethnic Russians, as it was framed in Kremlin propaganda, it was naked imperialistic expansionist aggression.

If the Russians living in a liberated Crimea don't want to live in a restored Ukrainian state, they will be free to cross the Kerch bridge before Ukraine destroys it once and for all.

 

https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-accused-of-reshaping-annexed-crimea-demographics-ukraine/29262130.html

 

Edited 31 March, 2023 by badgerx16

[Whitey Grandad]

1 hour ago, Jonnyboy said:

I suppose "JimmyD" and the NATO gang who want every last inch of their second home reclaimed think that, for example, Crimea, will result in zero casualties. How will the 1.5 million Russians who live there fare? I mean it was carnage in 2014, right?

They are not Russians. Unless you’re a racist and think that ethnicity is more important than where you live and we’re brought up. They are Crimeans who have been Ukrainians for at least two generations

[badgerx16]

It is April Fools Day and Russia assumes the Presidency of the UN Security Council; a nation whose Head of State is the subject of an International Arrest Warrant, and which the last time it held the Presidency invaded Ukraine.

[egg]

1 hour ago, badgerx16 said:

It is April Fools Day and Russia assumes the Presidency of the UN Security Council; a nation whose Head of State is the subject of an International Arrest Warrant, and which the last time it held the Presidency invaded Ukraine.

It's unbelievable that they're still a UN permanent member, and to be able to take the presidency is outrageous. 

[badgerx16]

47 minutes ago, egg said:

It's unbelievable that they're still a UN permanent member, and to be able to take the presidency is outrageous. 

It is nigh on impossible to remove a permanent member of the SC. The 5 major powers that won WW2 wrote the rules and made themselves king pins.

[egg]

57 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

It is nigh on impossible to remove a permanent member of the SC. The 5 major powers that won WW2 wrote the rules and made themselves king pins.

I get that. If Russia were removed on a majority vote (assuming China objected), in reality, what's the fallout? They just need the balls to do the right thing. 

[badgerx16]

3 minutes ago, egg said:

I get that. If Russia were removed on a majority vote (assuming China objected), in reality, what's the fallout? They just need the balls to do the right thing. 

A majority vote of member states of the General Assembly, followed by ratification by their national Governments, can propose the removal of a permanent SC member - provided all 5 permanent members agree. How you get the structural reforms to make that, for instance, 4 of 5 permanent members to agree I don't know.

[badgerx16]

From Twitter via Rediit;

 

MilitaryLand.net
@Militarylandnet
Here's how much territory RU gained during March 2023:
Kharkiv Oblast: 1.98% to 1.99% (~3km²)
Luhansk Oblast: 97.88% to 97.9%, (~5km²)
Donetsk Oblast: 56.58% to 56.93% (~85km²)
Zaporozhzhia and Kherson Oblast remained without changes.
#UkraineRussiaWar

[Weston Super Saint]

1 hour ago, badgerx16 said:

From Twitter via Rediit;

 

MilitaryLand.net
@Militarylandnet
Here's how much territory RU gained during March 2023:
Kharkiv Oblast: 1.98% to 1.99% (~3km²)
Luhansk Oblast: 97.88% to 97.9%, (~5km²)
Donetsk Oblast: 56.58% to 56.93% (~85km²)
Zaporozhzhia and Kherson Oblast remained without changes.
#UkraineRussiaWar

Any day now those ultra reliable weapons from North Korea will be arriving on the frontlines.  Watch those figures go through the roof then.

[Jimmy_D]

On 31/03/2023 at 22:30, Jonnyboy said:

I suppose "JimmyD" and the NATO gang who want every last inch of their second home reclaimed think that, for example, Crimea, will result in zero casualties. How will the 1.5 million Russians who live there fare? I mean it was carnage in 2014, right?

Most people don't need to think of a place as a second home to not want genocide to be committed there.

Russia could end this entire conflict today with no further casualties, if they wanted to stop their illegal invasion and stop committing war crimes.

Of course, they're not going to, instead they'll throw away a few hundred lives to inflict some misery and delay the inevitable a little longer. Then they'll do the same tomorrow. And the day after. They'll keep doing that until they can't.

Ukraine don't have the same luxury. They could stop, but that wouldn't mean Russia would stop. It would mean they move unchecked through a country whose people they don't even consider human.

[Lighthouse]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65155075

Would you like cream with that, you c**t?

[whelk]

2 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65155075

Would you like cream with that, you c**t?

Thinking of JonnyBoy at this difficult time. Will hit him hard

[Jimmy_D]

7 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65155075

Would you like cream with that, you c**t?

That's one where there might be a little more behind it than meets the eye. As well as being a notorious proponent of Russia's actions in Ukraine, he was also one of Putin's more outspoken critics, and seemed to be aligned with Wagner. Might be one of the first visible signs of a rift between the Kremlin and Wagner growing wider, or of Putin starting to get paranoid (or at least wary) of Wagner's growing influence.