Whitey Grandad Posted 11 October, 2022 Share Posted 11 October, 2022 1 hour ago, egg said: Its easy to underestimate the Chinese. There was an IT security dude on radio 4 this morning talking about the threat to the west of China and Chinese tech. Amongst what they're doing is trying to introduce their version of gps as a worldwide standard, or at least amongst much of the world. Now in use by 120 countries. He was alluding to a Russian tie in, ie assistance to developing countries ok condition of military bases, and absorbing Chinese tech with constant tracking and data gathering. No disrespect Whitey, but it's laughable that people think that China can't produce a chip to guide a bomb. This is my specialist subject. I would never underestimate the Chinese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bognor Posted 11 October, 2022 Share Posted 11 October, 2022 (edited) Nice work Edited 11 October, 2022 by Johnny Bognor LOL 2 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 11 October, 2022 Share Posted 11 October, 2022 2 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said: Defensive alliance that likes to take the fight across the world Except it has the perfect opportunity to join in a big fight yet chooses not to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 11 October, 2022 Share Posted 11 October, 2022 2 hours ago, Lighthouse said: Well that's alright then, we'd have wiped out most of their military in about four. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 11 October, 2022 Share Posted 11 October, 2022 https://unherd.com/2022/06/the-truth-about-ukraines-nazi-militias/ Would you say this was an accurate reflection of the situation Manji? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 11 October, 2022 Share Posted 11 October, 2022 1 minute ago, sadoldgit said: https://unherd.com/2022/06/the-truth-about-ukraines-nazi-militias/ Would you say this was an accurate reflection of the situation Manji? But, there was a genocide against Russian speakers - Manji heard it from Putput so it must be true. ( This Russian claim of 'genocide' is as credible as me saying there is a genocide against English speakers in Wales ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 11 October, 2022 Share Posted 11 October, 2022 I assume Alex is talking about Warfighter 2021 https://www.army.mil/article/245466/warfighter_21_4_concludes_strengthens_collaboration_with_british_and_french_forces Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 11 October, 2022 Share Posted 11 October, 2022 2 hours ago, aintforever said: Except it has the perfect opportunity to join in a big fight yet chooses not to. It can't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle04 Posted 11 October, 2022 Share Posted 11 October, 2022 A slightly more balanced and considered view : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 11 October, 2022 Share Posted 11 October, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 11 October, 2022 Share Posted 11 October, 2022 1 hour ago, kyle04 said: A slightly more balanced and considered view : Nice to see you've found one of Manji's rare interviews. Lovable rogue isn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloggy saint Posted 11 October, 2022 Share Posted 11 October, 2022 2 hours ago, kyle04 said: A slightly more balanced and considered view : So this is what Nuno Santo is up to these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 11 October, 2022 Share Posted 11 October, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, kyle04 said: A slightly more balanced and considered view : If anybody needs 'de-nazifying' it's him Edited 11 October, 2022 by badgerx16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 11 October, 2022 Share Posted 11 October, 2022 Remarkable people. Monday missiles and 24 hours later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle04 Posted 11 October, 2022 Share Posted 11 October, 2022 20 minutes ago, buctootim said: Remarkable people. Monday missiles and 24 hours later Russians clearly know what they're doing though, there were 100's of AFU forces hiding under those roads, a BTG's worth at least. How did they know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 11 October, 2022 Author Share Posted 11 October, 2022 24 minutes ago, buctootim said: Remarkable people. Monday missiles and 24 hours later Nazi efficiency innit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 12 October, 2022 Share Posted 12 October, 2022 Wish our local council could repair our roads that quickly. They don't even have the threat of cruise missiles hitting them at any time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 12 October, 2022 Share Posted 12 October, 2022 (edited) Manji - didn't you tell us they had fixed the bridge ? Edited 12 October, 2022 by badgerx16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloggy saint Posted 12 October, 2022 Share Posted 12 October, 2022 This guy has some really interesting videos. I'm surprised he hasn't suffered some kind of high window mishap already https://www.youtube.com/c/1420channel/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle04 Posted 12 October, 2022 Share Posted 12 October, 2022 Dmitri, what are those bumps in the road? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 12 October, 2022 Author Share Posted 12 October, 2022 I’d like to think we cut all aid to any of the countries who abstained. Should refuse to play cricket with SA, India and Pakistan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Posted 12 October, 2022 Share Posted 12 October, 2022 (edited) 35 minutes ago, whelk said: I’d like to think we cut all aid to any of the countries who abstained. most are either Russian protectorates or significant beneficiaries of the belt and road initiative, but yes we should if aid exists. Edited 12 October, 2022 by Plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 13 October, 2022 Share Posted 13 October, 2022 Manji's been on the internet again 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 13 October, 2022 Share Posted 13 October, 2022 Russia 1985-1999: TraumaZone, Series 1: 1. Part One - 1985 to 1989: www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0d3kjmp via @bbciplayer Should be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 13 October, 2022 Share Posted 13 October, 2022 In terms of raw numbers, Russia has now lost more tanks, more personnel carriers, more artillery pieces, and more helicopters than it originally had committed as part of the invasion force in February. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 13 October, 2022 Share Posted 13 October, 2022 The permanent representative for Ukraine at the United Nations uses binoculars to look for Russia's supporters...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 13 October, 2022 Share Posted 13 October, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 13 October, 2022 Share Posted 13 October, 2022 12 minutes ago, skintsaint said: That only works as an anti-tank obstacle, and even then it isn't wide enough. Infantry trenches zig zag and dog-leg, to reduce the effect of blast waves travelling along them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloggy saint Posted 13 October, 2022 Share Posted 13 October, 2022 32 minutes ago, skintsaint said: Trenches or one long grave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 13 October, 2022 Share Posted 13 October, 2022 22 minutes ago, cloggy saint said: Trenches or one long grave? With conical gravestones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 13 October, 2022 Share Posted 13 October, 2022 The thing about trenches is that they act as a sump where cold air gathers. I wonder if Ukraine has any cold air planned in the next few months... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 13 October, 2022 Share Posted 13 October, 2022 On 10/10/2022 at 20:55, badgerx16 said: Ah, I see you managed to pull your head out of Putin's arse long enough to post your daily dose of tripe. An eloquent piece of political discourse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 13 October, 2022 Share Posted 13 October, 2022 On 11/10/2022 at 12:55, badgerx16 said: But, there was a genocide against Russian speakers - Manji heard it from Putput so it must be true. ( This Russian claim of 'genocide' is as credible as me saying there is a genocide against English speakers in Wales ). At least 15,000 killed since The Maiden in 2014 according to UN, no doubt a conservative figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 13 October, 2022 Share Posted 13 October, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, manji said: At least 15,000 killed since The Maiden in 2014 according to UN, no doubt a conservative figure. Casualties as a result of armed conflict do not amount to 'genocide'. The Ukrainians have been fighting a Russian backed insurrection since 2014, aiming to re-establish control over their internationally acknowledged sovereign territory. Ukraine has not shown or voiced any intent to prevent the use of the Russian language, or to deny people the right to identify as being of Russian descent. ( And the 15k figure is the total of casualties on both sides; nearly 11k are military casualties, and it also includes the 298 dead from the downing of Malaysian Airlines flight MH17 ). On the other hand, Putin's SMO is directly aimed at eradicating the Ukrainian state, national identity, and ability to continue to function as an emerging modern democracy. Edited 13 October, 2022 by badgerx16 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 13 October, 2022 Share Posted 13 October, 2022 8 minutes ago, manji said: An eloquent piece of political discourse. If I thought there was any point in entering an informed and intelligent exchange with you I might try it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 13 October, 2022 Share Posted 13 October, 2022 Russia documented using artillery last produced in 1949 now. That doesn’t mean it’s completely ineffective of course, but it’s telling that Russia can’t provide anything better than that to those troops despite 70 years of military production as one of the world’s military superpowers in the meantime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle04 Posted 13 October, 2022 Share Posted 13 October, 2022 The insurance should be cheaper, being a "classic" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 13 October, 2022 Share Posted 13 October, 2022 10 minutes ago, Jimmy_D said: Russia documented using artillery last produced in 1949 now. That doesn’t mean it’s completely ineffective of course, but it’s telling that Russia can’t provide anything better than that to those troops despite 70 years of military production as one of the world’s military superpowers in the meantime. At least it is a weapon that has a history of killing Nazis. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 13 October, 2022 Share Posted 13 October, 2022 12 minutes ago, kyle04 said: The insurance should be cheaper, being a "classic" No so much turret tossing with them as there is no autoloader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle04 Posted 13 October, 2022 Share Posted 13 October, 2022 11 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: No so much turret tossing with them as there is no autoloader. Just the risk of injury from shell casings bouncing around the cabin then. Aren't these the ones with a height restriction for the crew? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 13 October, 2022 Share Posted 13 October, 2022 18 minutes ago, kyle04 said: Just the risk of injury from shell casings bouncing around the cabin then. Aren't these the ones with a height restriction for the crew? No, that's the successor models with the a/l, T72 and later, which have lower silhouettes. According to the urban myth the height limit for crew members in these tanks is 5 feet 3 inches, officially the Russians say it is 5 feet 9, but anybody approaching that height will find their head and shoulders severely bruised, and drivers will find it difficult to fit their legs into the space provided in front of their position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 13 October, 2022 Share Posted 13 October, 2022 2 hours ago, Jimmy_D said: Russia documented using artillery last produced in 1949 now. That doesn’t mean it’s completely ineffective of course, but it’s telling that Russia can’t provide anything better than that to those troops despite 70 years of military production as one of the world’s military superpowers in the meantime. Who knows, maybe it's got something to do with not having the microchips available to re-stock their 'modern' weapons, so have to rely on gunpowder instead.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 13 October, 2022 Share Posted 13 October, 2022 Robot Wars goes airborne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 13 October, 2022 Share Posted 13 October, 2022 2 hours ago, manji said: At least 15,000 killed since The Maiden in 2014 according to UN, no doubt a conservative figure. You've never actually read the UN report have you. https://ukraine.un.org/sites/default/files/2021-10/Conflict-related civilian casualties as of 30 September 2021 (rev 8 Oct 2021) EN.pdf During the entire conflict period, from 14 April 2014 to 30 September 2021, OHCHR recorded a total of 3,095 conflict-related civilian deaths (1,841 men, 1,065 women, 102 boys, 50 girls, and 37 adults whose sex is unknown). Taking into account the 298 deaths on board Malaysian Airlines flight MH17 on 17 July 2014, the total death toll of the conflict on civilians has reached at least 3,393. The number of injured civilians is estimated to exceed 7,000. That's just under 4,000 civilian casualties over 7 years in a conflict that began with Russia arming and supporting the separatists. But yeah, you carry on swallowing Putin's propaganda and blame it all on Ukraine. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 13 October, 2022 Share Posted 13 October, 2022 3 hours ago, manji said: At least 15,000 killed since The Maiden in 2014 according to UN, no doubt a conservative figure. Good to see they’ve let mental manji use the computers at the mental asylum again tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonraker Posted 13 October, 2022 Share Posted 13 October, 2022 4 hours ago, Dman said: Good to see they’ve let mental manji use the computers at the mental asylum again tonight. I do question the policy of allowing inmates unfettered access to the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 14 October, 2022 Share Posted 14 October, 2022 Would Jesus approve? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 14 October, 2022 Share Posted 14 October, 2022 16 hours ago, manji said: At least 15,000 killed since The Maiden in 2014 according to UN, no doubt a conservative figure. 11,000 of which were soldiers and that figure includes Ukrainian casualties (both civilian and military). 9% of all civilian deaths were the shooting down of a famous flight btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 14 October, 2022 Share Posted 14 October, 2022 1 hour ago, skintsaint said: Would Jesus approve? I'm sure he would if the priest had used a holy hand grenade instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 14 October, 2022 Share Posted 14 October, 2022 Russia saying the bridge MUST be fixed by July 2023. I thought it was already reopened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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